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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    I thought the first 10 place finishers were all doping or something like that.
    Well if all those ten didn't use illegal performance enhancers, maybe they wouldn't all be the ten fastest ones. Some might still have been among the ten best, but who knows?
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    No one really knows. In any case, he was still very talented, but without the doping he probably would not have become the superstar that he was. Personally I think all this stuff should just be leagalized, but I guess it wasn't back then so he's a bad person for trying to get away with it.

    Why is this a story now? Why not when he was winning these things? What changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    No one really knows. In any case, he was still very talented, but without the doping he probably would not have become the superstar that he was. Personally I think all this stuff should just be leagalized, but I guess it wasn't back then so he's a bad person for trying to get away with it.

    Why is this a story now? Why not when he was winning these things? What changed?
    I think he kinda officially admitted to it recently. Or at least in a greater degree than he had done earlier.

    And it is true that no one really knows, but the point of these competitions is kind of to find out who is the best under X rules, so if some of them break those rules, there's not really any other choice but to take the medals back.
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    I sincerely doubt there is a single professional athlete on the entire planet who isn't using drugs. You either use them or you don't win. Just make it a regulated and open part of sports.

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    Well I disagree with you, although I would probably agree that it is a lot more common in sports (or divisions/leagues) where you earn a smurfton of money than it is in sports where you only make a reasonable amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Murder View Post
    I thought the first 10 place finishers were all doping or something like that.
    I heard it was like the first 23 finishers.

    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    I sincerely doubt there is a single professional athlete on the entire planet who isn't using drugs. You either use them or you don't win. Just make it a regulated and open part of sports.
    That's what I'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    I sincerely doubt there is a single professional athlete on the entire planet who isn't using drugs. You either use them or you don't win. Just make it a regulated and open part of sports.
    What absolute nonsense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    I sincerely doubt there is a single professional athlete on the entire planet who isn't using drugs. You either use them or you don't win. Just make it a regulated and open part of sports.
    Why would you want to openly allow the legal use of steroids in sports?
    Is that your final answer?

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    Why not? It'd be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    I sincerely doubt there is a single professional athlete on the entire planet who isn't using drugs. You either use them or you don't win. Just make it a regulated and open part of sports.
    Why would you want to openly allow the legal use of steroids in sports?
    Why not?

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    And what exactly would be the point or allowing it?
    Is that your final answer?

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    Since the majority of professional athletes use it anyway there isn't really a point in restricting it as they will always find ways to go around the system to use it like they have been doing for years.

    The thing is though when the majority of athletes are using steroids, when you win against them this still makes you the best if you beat them even if you also used steroids. So the whole, "he didn't deserve his trophies" thing that some people are saying doesn't really make any sense.

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    I think that as long as the drug itself isn't illegal in the country you are performing in, and it doesn't put your immediate health and safety or the immediate health and safety of those around you at risk, then it should be free game to use for a competition. In all sports.

    The only real concern is not the 'purity of the game' but the long-term health risks of doing these drugs and how that may affect younger people who look up to athletes as heroes and want to be like them.

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    Yeah, considering how seriously sports in America are taken at the collegiate and even high-school level, I see no way to stop kids as young as 14/15 from taking steroids, if you're allowing all the guys that they're aspiring to be like from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy View Post
    Yeah, considering how seriously sports in America are taken at the collegiate and even high-school level, I see no way to stop kids as young as 14/15 from taking steroids, if you're allowing all the guys that they're aspiring to be like from doing it.
    Well unless we're going to disallow celebrities from drinking or doing drugs (or at least cease all mention of the fact), then I don't see that as a reason against.

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