Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

[Jinx]

ADwD Isn't Dany still next in line for the throne? Rhaegar may have been the heir to Aerys, but he was never king. Dany is the last child of Aerys, so even though she is female, the true line of succession should be first to her, THEN to Aegon.

I don't think this is a spoiler, as it is talked about in both the show and the book, but go ahead and read at your own caution if you haven't read the books. Or just read the books, for christ jesus.

I was just thinking this morning...does Dany understand what her father was really like? She keeps talking about being the dragon, and the honour and birthright of the Targaryens, etc etc. Keep in mind, most of the stories she'd heard about the Targaryens and Westeros were from Viserys. The others were from people who wanted to manipulate to see Viserys/Dany on the throne. They're also the same people saying that people are secretly wishing for the Targaryens to come back. (And we as the reader/viewer know this isn't true--at the very least, we never see anything that makes us believe that.)

So, does she really know? If she did, would she be so proud of him? Would she feel that Westeros was still hers, or at least understand why people supported the Usurper?

I figure no, because Dany is a weak, entitled brat who expects everyone to love her. But even still. What do you guys think?

[Formalhaut]

I wonder how deep Varys' connections go. AFfC/ADwDHe seems to be loyal to House Targaryen but to what extent and to who? Will he try to reconcile Aegon VI and Dany? Or play one against the other? The title of the latest novel almost suggests that given where it comes from in the history of Westeros. What other schemes does he have going and with whom?.

The thing is though, in the T.V Series Varys agrees with the rest of the small council to assassinate Dany. Were it not for Jorah's change of heart, she would have definitely drunk that poison.

[Jinx]

spoilers n trout

The thing is though, in the T.V Series Varys agrees with the rest of the small council to assassinate Dany. Were it not for Jorah's change of heart, she would have definitely drunk that poison.

Uh, babes. That is a SERIOUS book 5 spoiler. You might want to unquote!

And Formalhaut Keep in mind, that scene was taken from book 1. And no one knows who Varys is loyal to, or what his game is. Read the books, and you'll understand why he did what he did. He's a manipulator. And also the best goddamn character in the series.

[Ouch!]

ADwD Isn't Dany still next in line for the throne? Rhaegar may have been the heir to Aerys, but he was never king. Dany is the last child of Aerys, so even though she is female, the true line of succession should be first to her, THEN to Aegon.

That's not at all how a patriarchal monarchy works. (SPOILER)Rhaegar was the heir, and Aegon was his heir. As soon as Rhaegar died, Aegon became the heir to the throne. It does not matter that Rhaegar himself never became king. Viserys only became the heir after Rhaegar's line (the line of Aerys's first son) was extinguished. Aegon's claim as first son of the first son of the king was better than Viserys's claim as second son of the king.

[Jinx]

ADwD Isn't Dany still next in line for the throne? Rhaegar may have been the heir to Aerys, but he was never king. Dany is the last child of Aerys, so even though she is female, the true line of succession should be first to her, THEN to Aegon.

That's not at all how a patriarchal monarchy works. (SPOILER)Rhaegar was the heir, and Aegon was his heir. As soon as Rhaegar died, Aegon became the heir to the throne. It does not matter that Rhaegar himself never became king. Viserys only became the heir after Rhaegar's line (the line of Aerys's first son) was extinguished. Aegon's claim as first son of the first son of the king was better than Viserys's claim as second son of the king.

Oh. Okay.


Well....this would just be fixed if (SPOILER) Dany and Aegon get married like two good Targaryens would.

[Del Murder]

I hate you all.

[Jinx]

[Del Murder]

So many spoilers I can't open!

[Jinx]

I thought you'd read the books, Del! Hasn't Miriel read them? I assumed you had too.

Watching Robb and Talisa's wedding scene. Did it bug anyone else that they named the Stranger in their vows? When in some book it explicitly says that no one ever says the Stranger's name in trout like that, because it's bad luck or something?

[Formalhaut]

I thought you'd read the books, Del! Hasn't Miriel read them? I assumed you had too.

Watching Robb and Talisa's wedding scene. Did it bug anyone else that they named the Stranger in their vows? When in some book it explicitly says that no one ever says the Stranger's name in trout like that, because it's bad luck or something?

They said that in the T.V series as well. (SPOILER) Of course, the Stranger is often associated with death, isn't it? I wonder what that's foreshadowing.

Spoiler tags are your friend. Even if it's a vague thing like this, you kind of made it obvious what happens! - Psy

[Psychotic]

Hey Del here's a spoiler you CAN open!

(SPOILER)Pod becomes King of Westeros. Forever. And everyone else who is ever named in the books DIES.

[Del Murder]

I've only read books 1 and 2. Miriel has only read the prologue of book 1. Wasn't her thing.

I may cave at some point and just read ahead, but I do like finding things out for the first time through the show.

[Jinx]

Hey Del here's a spoiler you CAN open!

(SPOILER)Pod becomes King of Westeros. Forever. And everyone else who is ever named in the books DIES.

This would be amazing. I love him so much. <3 I even made a Facebook status about it last night.


And, oh. There is something that'd be fun finding out on the show, as it'd be a surprise. But I coulda sworn Miriel had read them! Oh well.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I can't read any of those spoilers. I really need to get book 5.

[Jinx]