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    Well I read a whole article on the History of both Xenogears and Xenosaga and I don't recall that. I'm pretty sure the first three games were always supposed to be Shion's Arc.

    However the site is not working for me right now(omething about blackhole exploit kit) and so i can't check it to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    Well I read a whole article on the History of both Xenogears and Xenosaga and I don't recall that. I'm pretty sure the first three games were always supposed to be Shion's Arc.

    However the site is not working for me right now(omething about blackhole exploit kit) and so i can't check it to be sure.
    No I read it to and I remember what things were supposed to be when the series was being developed. It was only three games for Shion when the series was basically cancelled and they used Ep. III just to wrap everything up (Ep. III was supposed to be Ep. II before all that turnover took place with the production team).

    Ep. I was originally supposed to end with that battle with Albedo that ended up being in Ep. II. Everything in Ep. III was originally supposed to be in Ep. II. Ep. III was supposed to be part of a new arc.
    Last edited by tony12; 05-05-2013 at 05:28 PM.

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    Well if you read the article then you should also remember that the six game story arc was only at the very onset of the development. Later interviews indicated that there might only be four episodes even.

    What you said about Episode 1's original intention just shows Takahashi has more vision than common sense. There is no way you could cram all of Episode 1 and 2 into athe same game. Even if you trim the BS in EP2, it still would be insanely long. The way I hear it, they spent a ton on Episode 1 as it was so you can imagine what tacking on another ten or twenty hours of cutscenes would have done to their budget.

    The point is that Takahashi's plan for a six game series was something conjured up way back in the beginning and is akin to a fish wishing it could grow wings and fly; eventually reality set in and both realized that just wasn't going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover View Post
    Well if you read the article then you should also remember that the six game story arc was only at the very onset of the development. Later interviews indicated that there might only be four episodes even.

    What you said about Episode 1's original intention just shows Takahashi has more vision than common sense. There is no way you could cram all of Episode 1 and 2 into athe same game. Even if you trim the BS in EP2, it still would be insanely long. The way I hear it, they spent a ton on Episode 1 as it was so you can imagine what tacking on another ten or twenty hours of cutscenes would have done to their budget.

    The point is that Takahashi's plan for a six game series was something conjured up way back in the beginning and is akin to a fish wishing it could grow wings and fly; eventually reality set in and both realized that just wasn't going to happen.
    The six game story arc was what they originally wanted to do and what they were selling the seies to fans on. It was only after the series started failing that they started settling on the shorter series of strictly Shion.


    If you want to accept Xenosaga for what it ended up being that is perfectly fine. But I as someone who played Xenogears before Xenosaga ever saw the light of day and read all the hub bub about Xenosaga I know how much of an ultimate failure Xenosaga ended up being from what it originally was supposed to be.

    That is why in my eyes Xenosaga in no way compares to Xenogears. Xenogears came much closer to the original vision than Xenosaga did.

    You could have put that much detail into Xenosaga (all of Ep 1 and II) in a single game if they chose to make it less graphic heavy (don't think voice acting was that expensive). Give it really good PS1 style graphics instead of good ps2 graphics. Only problem is their probably would have been a lot of gamers who would turn their nose up at it because of the graphics but that could have been a way they could have fit all the story in.
    Last edited by tony12; 05-05-2013 at 09:24 PM.

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