Vaan vs. Tidus - THUNDERDOME

[theundeadhero]

Tidus has way better collarbones.
Vaan's are all narrow and stick up out of his body like they're tall.

[Jessweeee♪]

[Tigmafuzz]

I don't like Vaan at all, but at least he's not Tidus.

[Jessweeee♪]

[Jinx]

[Jiro]

Tidus is whiny and annoying, and the worst thing you can say about Vaan (abs aside) is that he's just kind of there and doesn't do a whole lot.

Give me someone who's incapable of being annoying because he didn't really do anything over someone who I wanted to see die for most of the game.

You effectively sell off any right to a decent story when you side with the character who is two dimensional and pointless. We might as well have controlled Montblanc sitting in the guild for all the relevance he had.

[Jinx]

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[Jessweeee♪]

[Jinx]

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[Slothy]

Tidus is whiny and annoying, and the worst thing you can say about Vaan (abs aside) is that he's just kind of there and doesn't do a whole lot.

Give me someone who's incapable of being annoying because he didn't really do anything over someone who I wanted to see die for most of the game.

You effectively sell off any right to a decent story when you side with the character who is two dimensional and pointless. We might as well have controlled Montblanc sitting in the guild for all the relevance he had.

Not very relevant is always, ALWAYS, preferable to a character so awful he actively detracts from my ability to enjoy a game.

[Skyblade]

Tidus is whiny and annoying, and the worst thing you can say about Vaan (abs aside) is that he's just kind of there and doesn't do a whole lot.

Give me someone who's incapable of being annoying because he didn't really do anything over someone who I wanted to see die for most of the game.

You effectively sell off any right to a decent story when you side with the character who is two dimensional and pointless. We might as well have controlled Montblanc sitting in the guild for all the relevance he had.

Not very relevant is always, ALWAYS, preferable to a character so awful he actively detracts from my ability to enjoy a game.

As a character, he isn't awful. He's annoying, yes. But his characterization is solid and generally well written.

Whenever they tried to give Vaan a personality or "issues", though, it always felt forced. Vaan never felt like a character to me. And I take far more issue with that than I do with annoyances. Heck, if annoying people were that problematic, I'd be upset at most of the world

[Jessweeee♪]

Whenever they tried to give Vaan a personality or "issues", though, it always felt forced.

When did this happen

[Skyblade]

Whenever they tried to give Vaan a personality or "issues", though, it always felt forced.

When did this happen

This scene:

How can he protect anything when he's dead? Was it different for Prince Rasler? Did that make sense? Hating the Empire, getting revenge.It's all I ever thought about. But I never did anything about it. I mean, I realized there was nothing I could do. It made me feel hollow, alone. And then I'd miss my brother. I'd say stuff like "I'm gonna be a sky pirate"... or some other stupid thing. Just anything to keep my mind off it. I was just - I was running away. I needed to get away from his death. That's why I followed you. Know what? I'm through with it. I'm through running. I'm ready to find my purpose. To find some real answers - some reasons. If I stick with you, I think I will.

My gosh was that scene horrible.

Seriously, who the frell talks like that?

And, frankly, admitting that everything he was doing was acting totally idiotically was not that in character. You can't be a stupid idiot for a hundred hours and then just suddenly realize and admit you're a stupid idiot. You need something to happen to trigger that sort of realization. Then you have to accept it, which is itself a lengthy journey. And THEN you can admit it. Once you've, y'know, actually grown up. You have to actually grow. Vaan never does, he just gets a "eureka" moment, which felt forced, and badly written.


On the plus side, it was memorable. I don't remember much of the individual lines of the script, but even though it's been years, I can still hear him saying

I'd say stuff like "I'm gonna be a sky pirate"... or some other stupid thing.

It was badly written enough to stick with me. IT WILL NOT GO AWAY.

[Freya]

But guysssss

[Jessweeee♪]

Whenever they tried to give Vaan a personality or "issues", though, it always felt forced.

When did this happen

This scene:

How can he protect anything when he's dead? Was it different for Prince Rasler? Did that make sense? Hating the Empire, getting revenge.It's all I ever thought about. But I never did anything about it. I mean, I realized there was nothing I could do. It made me feel hollow, alone. And then I'd miss my brother. I'd say stuff like "I'm gonna be a sky pirate"... or some other stupid thing. Just anything to keep my mind off it. I was just - I was running away. I needed to get away from his death. That's why I followed you. Know what? I'm through with it. I'm through running. I'm ready to find my purpose. To find some real answers - some reasons. If I stick with you, I think I will.

My gosh was that scene horrible.

Seriously, who the frell talks like that?

And, frankly, admitting that everything he was doing was acting totally idiotically was not that in character. You can't be a stupid idiot for a hundred hours and then just suddenly realize and admit you're a stupid idiot.

Sure you can, I do it like all the time! Especially when I was seventeen. Anyway I think this is actually a good scene showing how he's moving on and growing up. He's trying to get his trout together and help his peeps. Really this is the best opportunity a young Dalmascan from the slums can get I think