Square had to prove they could do something more annoying than the laughing scene.Originally Posted by Freya
But guysssss
Square had to prove they could do something more annoying than the laughing scene.But guysssss
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They're both awesome.
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Even if he is characterised well at some point, it's not relevant to the actual story. Vaan doesn't fit. His individual bildungsroman is not what we wanted and not what we were by and large given; I think of Vaan as I think of the Player Character in White Knight Chronicles: he's your avatar and is only there to be your viewpoint character.
Tidus might harp on about it being his story, and he might be wrong and it is Yuna's story, or all of their stories, but the point is that he's still relevant, and he still undergoes subtle and obvious changes, and there is actual agency from the character. Final Fantasy X is about the party going on a pilgrimage and stopping Sin. Final Fantasy XII is about... something? About the Occurria versus Vayne Solidor? It's not about the party, not really, as Vaan and Penelo are irrelevant, and Fran is only relevant because she has ties to Balthier.
Penelo is relevant due to her relationship with Larsa. Not very relevant, but it's there.
Fran is there as miss exposition. If you need something explained, or someone to act completely bonkers due to an "instability in the Mist", she's your gal.
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I will say though, in Vaan's defence, that he is far more relevant in Revenant Wings than Tidus is in X-2. Tidus is a smurfing MacGuffin there.
Most annoying part of the game, but still less annoying than Tidus's presence throughout the whole of FFX.But guysssss
I'm going to have to hand it to Tidus as well. Primarily because I don't remember anything about Vaan because I quit FFXII halfway through out of sheer boredom.
Thus, regardless of how annoying Tidus is (and he doesn't annoy me very much), he at least has a personality that I can remember!
I'm with Vivi22 on this one. I mean, you can go on about "but a personality is good for the story!" all you like - I like to immerse myself in the story and if I immerse myself next to Tidus, I would want nothing more than for him to suffer an extremely bloody, extremely quick death. Quick because it would mean I have to spend less time looking at his annoying self, listening to his annoying self, and pretty much dealing with his annoying everything.
Vaan, on the other hand, I could at least handle being around for more than ten seconds.
There is a scale going from great to neutral to terrible. Vaan is neutral, Tidus is terrible.
With all that said... Tidus would obliterate Vaan if it were an actual fight. I just think Tidus is way too strong for Vaan.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
Vaan is an inoffensive non-entity and the story recognizes as such.
Vaan.
Not often we agree with eachother on FF things. Not sure how I should feel about that.
But I will say, I wouldn't want Tidus to receive a quick death. I think I'd actually enjoy listening to his whining if it was the result of him being slowly skinned alive, or me cutting him open and having a feel of his internal organs.
*sigh* Is it really a lack of tolerance that causes this abnormal hate for Tidus' personality?
There's no such thing as abnormal hate for Tidus' personality.
Master of the Fork
Cid's Knight
I like them both. Well Vaans abs are creepy....
Well, I don't know about you, but I think Vaan needs to put up a shirt...
Tidus is filled with energy, tell great stories, and even have a great personality that always lifted my spirits. So that being said, I'm going with Tidus on this debate.
Fight: Tidus
Most Annoying: Tidus
More Pointless: Vaan
Better End: Tidus
Better Voice actor: Vaan
Tidus wins 3 out of 5...or until I think of more stuff to compare them between.
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