Who is the "Top Dog" ?

[Ayen]

I remember the first time I saw Squall smile, that was the same day the winged pig beast migrated to the south and the devil came up to the surface to buy winter clothes.

[CarvingUp360]

Well everyone does have their fair points but if you ask me It's really a toss up between Cloud and Squall when it comes to pure skill and fighting ability. But in character wise their all unique in their own ways. Nonetheless though Cloud and Squall are probably the most iconic out of these four especially Cloud and if you don't believe me about that then you need to watch advent children and play Final Fantasy 7 c: because Cloud would most likely come out the victor if these four were to fight, if not him then Squall

[Elskidor]

Cloud and Squall's limit breaks are both insane, and they became something you felt you had to do for all boss fights, rather than a nice rare surprise now and again. I'm glad they did away with them as they were in those two games, but just because of them, and out of these four characters, the limit break boys will probably be the final two standing. I don't recall who has the stronger limit break, but whoever does is the winner. I'm guessing Squall since Karifean mentioned it hit 17 times.

[CarvingUp360]

Cloud and Squall's limit breaks are both insane, and they became something you felt you had to do for all boss fights, rather than a nice rare surprise now and again. I'm glad they did away with them as they were in those two games, but just because of them, and out of these four characters, the limit break boys will probably be the final two standing. I don't recall who has the stronger limit break, but whoever does is the winner. I'm guessing Squall since Karifean mentioned it hit 17 times.

Limit breaks are handy and all but their not what makes the character strong and you cant always rely on them. Yes Cloud and Squall's limit breaks are both insane, but just because Squall has 1 limit break that surpasses any of Cloud's does not make him stronger than him and having an over powered limit break doesn't exactly mean he would be the victor

[Karifean]

Cloud and Squall's limit breaks are both insane, and they became something you felt you had to do for all boss fights, rather than a nice rare surprise now and again. I'm glad they did away with them as they were in those two games, but just because of them, and out of these four characters, the limit break boys will probably be the final two standing. I don't recall who has the stronger limit break, but whoever does is the winner. I'm guessing Squall since Karifean mentioned it hit 17 times.

Limit breaks are handy and all but their not what makes the character strong and you cant always rely on them. Yes Cloud and Squall's limit breaks are both insane, but just because Squall has 1 limit break that surpasses any of Cloud's does not make him stronger than him and having an over powered limit break doesn't exactly mean he would be the victor

...except that you pretty much CAN always rely on Squall's Limit Breaks since you can infinitely use them. And even in worst-case-scenario, his LB still hits for 6x the amount of damage a completely regular attack would. Not to mention that in the best case scenario, it's 63x damage (8 hits from Renzo all doing 1.5x damage, 17 hits from LH doing 3x damage).

Edit: I'm reading way too deep into this, aren't I?

[Elskidor]

I forgot something crucial about Tidus. If we are talking in terms of the power we see them in game then I forgot you can break the 9999 cap in FFX, so a totally pimped out Tidus would wipe the floor with all three of them combined. Oh my...coming from someone that dislikes Tidus that makes me cringe. In terms of just imagining this and that, and forgetting the base damage we see in game then I guess it's a matter of opinion and favorite character though.

X is the only one of these games that can break the 9999 standard I think.

[Sephiroth]

Squall was holding his own pretty well against the likes of Sephiroth at the beginning of Dissidia, I think he can hold out against Cloud okay.

Dissidia matches do not exist to show canonical powers and their equals. Squall is a skilled SeeD but he does not hold his own against Sephiroth. There are only two main characters that can hold their own against the antagonists when it comes to the antagonists doing more than just playing around a bit and those are Lightning, who has become very powerful and Cloud with his concept of an "actual limit break" when fights for what he loves. And even then some villains still play around.

X is the only one of these games that can break the 9999 standard I think.

Lightning can deal 999999 damage. But that is not important for story strength.

[CarvingUp360]

Well you do make a fair point, that is a pretty insane limit break but again it is not what makes the character strong no matter how many times you can use them. But if ya wanna make this about limit breaks check out Cloud's Omnislash

[Karifean]

I forgot something crucial about Tidus. If we are talking in terms of the power we see them in game then I forgot you can break the 9999 cap in FFX, so a totally pimped out Tidus would wipe the floor with all three of them combined. Oh my...coming from someone that dislikes Tidus that makes me cringe. In terms of just imagining this and that, and forgetting the base damage we see in game then I guess it's a matter of opinion and favorite character though.

X is the only one of these games that can break the 9999 standard I think.

Oh sure if you want to go that way nobody can take on Tidus. Then again, if you do go that way, you can also say that a truly maxed out Cloud probably has multiple Sneak-Attack + Knights of the Round combos in his equipment and even a single KotR would already knock out Tidus.

There's also the fact that Squall is the only one who can make himself Invincible, by using a Holy War.

Nah, there's not much point in going that way.

Edit: I still maintain that Lion Heart > Omnislash.

[Sephiroth]

Oh sure if you want to go that way nobody can take on Tidus. Then again, if you do go that way, you can also say that a truly maxed out Cloud probably has multiple Sneak-Attack + Knights of the Round combos in his equipment and even a single KotR would already knock out Tidus.

There's also the fact that Squall is the only one who can make himself Invincible, by using a Holy War.

Nah, there's not much point in going that way.

Edit: I still maintain that Lion Heart > Omnislash.

As mentioned:

Lightning can deal 999999 damage. But that is not important for story strength.

[CarvingUp360]

Everyone please stop talking about Lightning -.- the overratedness is doing my head in

[Sephiroth]

Everyone please stop talking about Lightning -.- the overratedness is doing my head in

You can't really ask for something like that while allowing multiple other overrated characters.

[CarvingUp360]

Some of the ones that are being discussed are overrated, But Lightning is on a whole other level of overrated. I wouldn't call Zidane an overrated character though, more like underrated

[Sephiroth]

Some of the ones that are being discussed are overrated, But Lightning is on a whole other level of overrated. I wouldn't call Zidane an overrated character though, more like underrated

Lightning was written so someone can finally be on par with old overrated things. And when it comes to her character and her powers it was a success.

Also, Cloud is not on another level of overratedness. I love Final Fantasy VII more than all the others but he is just loved that much. I might mention here, I don't mean overrated like without deserving it, but simply that gigantic mass of love.

[Ayen]

Squall was holding his own pretty well against the likes of Sephiroth at the beginning of Dissidia, I think he can hold out against Cloud okay.

Dissidia matches do not exist to show canonical powers and their equals. Squall is a skilled SeeD but he does not hold his own against Sephiroth. There are only two main characters that can hold their own against the antagonists when it comes to the antagonists doing more than just playing around a bit and those are Lightning, who has become very powerful and Cloud with his concept of an "actual limit break" when fights for what he loves. And even then some villains still play around.

I like how the female Cloud (not a knock she is inspired by Cloud) is the only other one who can stand up against Sephiroth. I wonder if that was on purpose.

I gotta say right now the villains are smurfing dumbasses with how much they play around...