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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    As mentioned:

    Lightning can deal 999999 damage. But that is not important for story strength.
    Yeah, I started writing that post before yours showed up. I had forgotten about that.

    Although I still can't say for sure if Cloud or Squall would win in a "story strength" battle. I do believe Squall is far above average, considering he masters a weapon that most people consider ridiculous and impossible to wield (at least IRL). And yet there's no doubt that Cloud is on a very high level as well - plus the Buster Sword...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ View Post
    I like how the female Cloud (not a knock she is inspired by Cloud) is the only other one who can stand up against Sephiroth. I wonder if that was on purpose.
    Yes, she is inspired by him but don't get me wrong here, it is not shown how she fights Sephiroth. I say that because of the power she has in Lightning Returns. She fights someone who destroys multiple planets with one attack (canonically, not as Sephiroth whose move shows his power but was never used) and simply has super powers. With her powers she is better than Cloud - except his own super power which lets him defeat Sephiroth after his canonical "limit break". So directly seen, Lightning seems better, analyzed they are on par, comparing their battle skills and their "hold my own against a god" powers.

    The thing is, that Sephiroth would probably, while she is very powerful, just defeat her without thinking about it. She is incredibly powerful, but Cloud is too and Cloud has only a chance because Sephiroth never uses all his powers and abilities together like reading minds, using illusions, shapeshifting, teleporting, using his greatest weapon, his will, and such and only because he wants to torture Cloud.

    Still I love Lightning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ View Post
    I like how the female Cloud (not a knock she is inspired by Cloud) is the only other one who can stand up against Sephiroth. I wonder if that was on purpose.
    Yes, she is inspired by him but don't get me wrong here, it is not shown how she fights Sephiroth. I say that because of the power she has in Lightning Returns. She fights someone who destroys multiple planets with one attack (canonically, not as Sephiroth whose move shows his power but was never used) and simply has super powers. With her powers she is better than Cloud - except his own super power which lets him defeat Sephiroth after his canonical "limit break". So directly seen, Lightning seems better, analyzed they are on par, comparing their battle skills and their "hold my own against a god" powers.
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    I forgot how crazy they could get on the power bar in these games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CarvingUp360 View Post
    Some of the ones that are being discussed are overrated, But Lightning is on a whole other level of overrated. I wouldn't call Zidane an overrated character though, more like underrated
    Lightning was written so someone can finally be on par with old overrated things. And when it comes to her character and her powers it was a success.

    Also, Cloud is not on another level of overratedness. I love Final Fantasy VII more than all the others but he is just loved that much. I might mention here, I don't mean overrated like without deserving it, but simply that gigantic mass of love.
    I never said Cloud was on another level of overrated? He's one of my favorite characters of the entire franchise along with Squall, Zidane, Sephiroth, Tifa and more. I just really don't see the big deal about Lightning. Sure she's some tough, sexy goddess with pink hair who happens to be the main character of 3 games. But when a company practically revolves their company around that series and a certain character of course It's going to be a success but people are eventually going to get sick of that. I happen to be one of those people, and if that is NOT overrated then i don't know what the hell is. Yeah i get that people absolutely love lightning but im just expressing my opinion, not saying i don't like her as a character, it was definitely something fresh having a female protagonist. But I'm just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarvingUp360 View Post
    I never said Cloud was on another level of overrated?
    Pardon, you might have misunderstood me.

    You said, the others are not as overrrated, automatically putting them on another level, a lower one. And I said "Cloud is not on another level" as in "he is on the same level".

    I like that, believe me. The two are my favourites.

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    I said "the others" i never mentioned Cloud's name though so clearly you've misunderstood me. And of course most characters of the franchise are automatically put on a lower level when the company revolves itself around one character -.- hence the title of the newest installment "Lightning Returns" (makes me wanna face palm every time i read it) I never said she was better than any of the characters i listed at all, and i never said she was on a higher level than any of them. Hence the term "others" just because their put on a lower level of overratedness does not make them bad characters, just overlooked

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarvingUp360 View Post
    I said "the others" i never mentioned Cloud's name though so clearly you've misunderstood me. And of course most characters of the franchise are automatically put on a lower level when the company revolves itself around one character -.- hence the title of the newest installment "Lightning Returns" (makes me wanna face palm every time i read it) I never said she was better than any of the characters i listed at all, and i never said she was on a higher level than any of them. Hence the term "others" just because their put on a lower level of overratedness does not make them bad characters, just overlooked
    It is called Lightning Returns because of the character development Lightning got after all that time.

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    I'm fairly sure I kicked all of their asses on Dissidia with Yuna, so.. I'm with Shauna on this one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aulayna View Post
    I'm fairly sure I kicked all of their asses on Dissidia with Yuna, so.. I'm with Shauna on this one.
    Yeah, she will dance them to death and send them at the same time, ha, ha.

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    Just because you played as a certain character and beat the game with that character doesn't prove that their the best in the entire series. I could play as Cloud, kick every other character's ass in the game and beat the whole thing with him. Does that prove that he's the best? No. You're comment does not prove anything dude xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarvingUp360 View Post
    ... dude xD
    Aulayna is no dude. I am the dude. And this guy:

    https://www.google.de/search?q=Big+L...w=1280&bih=605

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    How am i supposed to know that? -.-

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    We just need to convince Square to give us a Fatal Four Way between them, or get Screw Attack on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ View Post
    Screw Attack
    No, just no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ View Post
    We just need to convince Square to give us a Fatal Four Way between them, or get Screw Attack on this.
    I like the fatal four way idea

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