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    Quote Originally Posted by ToriJ View Post
    And to my knowledge the complaints didn't come until it was released internationally because it was much better received in Japan overall. Never once did I claim American to be the measure of all things.

    I was making a joke because I hated it before I even knew that I was in the majority. I don't know what your deal is.
    I edited the post, maybe you didn't see it.

    No complaints is not a knowledge thing. I have both native speakers as friends as well as a thread I have already mentioned. And both were about criticizing Final Fantasy XIII early. In fact the thread I am talking about - or the posts, as the thread itself is older - was hot topic a few days after the Japanese release. I discussed with German players at that time since they already complained about "Final Fantasy XIII being as linear as a piece of string" as several sites said. I even searched for the German thread, it still exists.

    The problem is, you said, you hated it before it was a thing. However, it was a thing as mentioned - I was in shock at that time as I was waiting for it and have played the Trial version before so I was part of that debate. Now you say "before you knew" but that is not the same.

    I am just clarifying things. There is no bad intention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    XIII and Type-0 aren't related to each other any more than XIII is related to any other game in the series.

    No, when they are canon to each other with the same universe and myth it is a total difference. And after Lightning Returns you will think different anyway.

    EDIT@Skyblade: They are very well canon to each other. Parts of the myth explained differently does not make them non-canon. The plan was to give them one myth and one universe but no further connection, just some elements as with VII and X. Gaia and Spira are alsonot the same planet. And and essential crystal is very important as we can see in Lightning Returns. Fans need to learn that other perspectives or even contradictions do not make things non-canon. Fans cannot decide. Things are non-canon when a company says they are. Even Final Fantasy VII and X have differences between the concept and they are absolutely canon and have the same universe. It is the idea of canonicity between games without to much explained connection. Same goes for Gilgamesh who officially travels through dimensions, which are partly canonical to each other, partly not canonical to each other.

    It is a pretty undefined canon like it was said that the substance of lifestream and pyreflies are the same what could be for Final Fantasy VII and X but not what actually happened to lead from on to another. Otherwise Cetra and JENOVA would have needed to be written into that and they weren't. Canon does not automatically mean fully with all thoughts about it to make all fitting - even if this would be the best, of course. Final Fantasy XIII is even canon to our universe without spoilering.

    When you go for an absolute canon then nothing is canon as in connected, counting and free from mistakes and variety to each other ever. But this is not what is meant to be and this is not what a company looks at all the time when they make things canonical - partly for sure, of course. Things are canonical when the owner wants it to be. Things often are just left out or vary a bit.
    Last edited by Sephiroth; 12-25-2013 at 03:11 PM.

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