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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    I suggest you not twist what I say to fit your argument.

    I'm not upset about the network suspending him. I'm upset about people being intolerant of his beliefs, which to him are tied to his own religion.

    If someone were to attack him for this, would that not be a hate crime?
    I'm sorry. Do you even think about what you are typing or do you just vomit on the keyboard and hope someone else makes sense about it eventually?

    Also, I didn't twist anything you said. You said it was a First Amendment issue and I said it wasn't. Largely because it isn't. That's not twisting anything, that's pointing out that you are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    I suggest you not twist what I say to fit your argument.

    I'm not upset about the network suspending him. I'm upset about people being intolerant of his beliefs, which to him are tied to his own religion.

    If someone were to attack him for this, would that not be a hate crime?
    I'm sorry. Do you even think about what you are typing or do you just vomit on the keyboard and hope someone else makes sense about it eventually?
    You seem to enjoy insulting people quite a bit. Have fun, you'll have to do the rest of this conversation without me.

    Edit: I doubt you'll care, but you are the first person to make my ignore list. Good day.
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    Crossing the line, Bunny. Behave.

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    So I guess first amendment rights don't apply anymore? Oh right I forgot we don't have a constitution anymore. Just politically correct bulltrout.

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    I know the thread is a whole 34 posts long, but this issue was already addressed:

    A&E is not the US government.

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    So what?
    On May 9, Greensboro, NC country station 93.1 The Wolf reported that after receiving complaints over prayers to God and the frequent use of guns on air, Duck Dynasty patriarch Phil Robertson said, "God and guns are part of our everyday lives [and] to remove either of them from the show is unacceptable."\Details regarding the source of the complaints have not been released. Nor has anyone clarified whether they originated within or without of A&E. Breitbart News has reached out to the network for comment.

    One thing that has been reported is that A&E signed the Robertson family for another season, "under Phil Robertson's terms."

    They knew what he stood for what he says. Why would they put him on the air if they didn't want him expressing his beliefs? And then they silence him?

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    So I'm assuming you've read the contract between the Robertson family and A&E as a whole then?

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    What do you mean "So what?"? You brought up the First Amendment when it's not a First Amendment issue. That's what.

    You can disagree with their decision if you want, that's fine. I don't personally care if he stays employed or not.

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    He's stated multiple times he would not be one the show if he was not allowed to say his opinions, and that he did not want to be on the show but was told it was an avenue to voice his opinions so he agreed to be on the show. This is pretty public knowledge for anyone who follows the family.

    and sorry that gasp, a good portion of American live in rural areas and have conservative values.


    I mean so what to A&E isn't the government.

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    Except he did not make them on the show. He made them during an interview with GQ magazine and it brings negative attention to the entire network, not just Duck Dynasty and the Robertson family. There is, almost assuredly, a portion of the contract dedicated to how negative press will be handled as that is standard fare for any contract of that nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by escobert View Post
    He's stated multiple times he would not be one the show if he was not allowed to say his opinions, and that he did not want to be on the show but was told it was an avenue to voice his opinions so he agreed to be on the show. This is pretty public knowledge for anyone who follows the family.
    I don't claim to know the specifics of their contract. I don't really have an opinion on A&E's decision anyway though.

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    and sorry that gasp, a good portion of American live in rural areas and have conservative values.
    No need to apologize; I don't hold you responsible.

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    I mean so what to A&E isn't the government.
    So they're a private company; the First Amendment doesn't apply.

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    Freedom of Speech is not freedom from repercussions. It's crazy how people think it's carte blanche to say whatever they want.

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    Someone on my Facebook posted this:

    All the crap on TV and in the media today and Phil Robertson "The Duck Commander" is offensive? Didn't A&E just air Bonnie & Clyde, glorifying a couple of thugs who robbed and killed people? But they boycott a wholesome family man who quotes the Bible? They've got a brand to protect, they can't let a bearded redneck right winger spout his beliefs. (Oh the horror! We must shut down beliefs, opinions and ideas and get back to selling sex and debauchery to our children!!) A Christian man said something that aligns with his faith...EVERYBODY FREAK THE FREAK OUT!! ...what he said was not anti-gay, he didn't say it out of hate or judgement, but out of his faith. Those often shouting tolerance are often the most intolerant when they see things differently.
    Followed by some "preach it sister" comments. This offends me greatly because they are not at all speaking for religious people and this is the type of crap that gives us all a bad name. This doesn't align with the faith. This aligns with morons twisting things to suit themselves and/or going along with what they hear and assuming it is correct.

    I don't have a great opinion on this. I think everyone has the right to be whatever sexuality they are and not be criticized for it. I also believe people are allowed to hate whoever they want for whatever dumb reason they want. But I don't think its right to publicly shame those people and make them feel bad for being who they are. Keep that to yourself and in private dumb conversations with other intolerant people.

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    Comparing the Bonnie and Clyde thing to these Duck Dynasty folks is comparing apples and oranges. Allowing a show to air about two lovebirds who have gone down in history vs. an old white hick bastard making intolerant comments are not the same things in any capacity. The Duck Dynasty dude is very much alive and is fully capable of controlling his actions, and I don't think it's okay to say, "well you allowed this completely unrelated thing to happen, why can't I act the way I want to act!" That's shifting blame and responsibility and it's stupid. Everyone knows the nature of Bonnie and Clyde's story and killing and robbing is pretty commonplace among television shows and regular media. Comments slighting a specific sexual preference are not.

    I don't understand how his comments can be viewed as "not anti-gay" and I don't understand that it's intolerant to disagree purely because it's based on religion. If they weren't religious and had these same views, would it still not be intolerant then?

    NCG is so spot on with this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shion View Post
    All the crap on TV and in the media today and Phil Robertson "The Duck Commander" is offensive? Didn't A&E just air Bonnie & Clyde, glorifying a couple of thugs who robbed and killed people? But they boycott a wholesome family man who quotes the Bible? They've got a brand to protect, they can't let a bearded redneck right winger spout his beliefs. (Oh the horror! We must shut down beliefs, opinions and ideas and get back to selling sex and debauchery to our children!!) A Christian man said something that aligns with his faith...EVERYBODY FREAK THE FREAK OUT!! ...what he said was not anti-gay, he didn't say it out of hate or judgement, but out of his faith. Those often shouting tolerance are often the most intolerant when they see things differently.
    I guess I missed the part in the bible where it says black people should be second class citizens.
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