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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl the Llama View Post
    I discount DLC because its not an option to everyone in the game

    Which DLC? In Lightning Returns she easily deals 999999 damage with her moves, especially Artemis Pierce. That is no DLC. I defeated the Super Boss with 100000-~845000 damage per attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    And to be fair, any character from ff would die if they were shot up all day.
    Not they would not.

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    ... Zack was a strong soldier, but I think it's safe to say that his will was weaker than Cloud ...
    Sorry but that is wrong. It is not safe to say that. The Ultimania Omega states Cloud's will to be weak and Zack's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    I respond with Zack
    He can literally defeat sephiroth with a single punch, and he punches a goddess to a bloody pulp.
    Zack's default weapon is his sword and it's expected to be his primary means of attack. Cloud could easily punch people with Goblin Punch.

    Shall we assume this is going by Dissidia rules.?

    In any case, my vote would either be to VII Compilation, XIII Trilogy, IV and After (lol), X/X-2, or Type-0.
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    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

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    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karifean View Post
    @Carl The Llama

    If you're going that way, Sneak Attack + Knights of the Round renders everything moot. It definitely deals more than 99999 damage since it ignores defense. And Sneak Attack goes literally before anything else, so no quick MP draining, no quick Auto-Life casting, no quick Holy War, nothing.

    The only thing it couldn't kill is someone with pre-battle Auto-Life like the characters from Final Fantasy IX, but even those would be dead with just, well, a second Sneak Attack + Knights of the Round combo?

    The materia system of FF7 allows you to create the most overkill setups whom no one else can beat. You can also have several Final Attack combos which are unbeatable as long as you have sufficient MP.

    Breaking the HP and damage limit is nice, but it holds no candle to the potential of FF7 ^^
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    I'm going to go with the cast of the Tactics games, especially Advance and A2.

    While they may not have Auto-Phoenix (an ability I never used anyway, since it depends on consumables), they have everything else they need. Easily the most versatile and powerful of the teams. Between some of the easiest access to crippling status effects (Zombie, Stone, Instant-KO, Sleep + Doom, and the most accurate Stop in the series), and the utterly insane versatility they have, I think they could stand up to pretty much anyone.

    Especially the Viera. Camouflage makes them invisible in the melee, until they take action. They can sit and wait while the big summons and flashy attacks play out around them, while sniping individual units with moves like Rockseal or Last Breath, then vanishing back into the shadows.

    Plus, if you toss fighters into the FF Tactics systems, you realize that a lot of the most powerful Limit Breaks have range issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    I respond with Zack
    He can literally defeat sephiroth with a single punch, and he punches a goddess to a bloody pulp.
    Zack's default weapon is his sword and it's expected to be his primary means of attack. Cloud could easily punch people with Goblin Punch.

    Shall we assume this is going by Dissidia rules.?

    In any case, my vote would either be to VII Compilation, XIII Trilogy, IV and After (lol), X/X-2, or Type-0.
    Actually, Costly punch is the usual default weapon for most people on subsequent playthroughs. And you can't compare the strength of Costly punch to goblin punch, one does maybe a few hundred damage, the other one will almost always go past the second damage limit of 100,000.

    Edit: also, unlike cloud, Zack doesn't ever use the sharp edge of his sword, he always hits with the blunt side. Therefore, he is doing more damage with a lesser attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Zack doesn't ever use the sharp edge of his sword, he always hits with the blunt side. Therefore, he is doing more damage with a lesser attack.
    Zack got killed by a couple of shinra guys.

    Sure CC made him look like an all action hero, killing all those shinra army grunts, but tbh Cloud could have done the same, they were weak grunts with tiny HP, hell even level 7 Cloud could 1 hit these guys >.>

    Zacks death in the original was a lot more stark and they only made him out to be some great American Hero just to milk the game.

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    Barret, Vincent and Squall. Always bring a gun to a sword fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl the Llama View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Zack doesn't ever use the sharp edge of his sword, he always hits with the blunt side. Therefore, he is doing more damage with a lesser attack.
    Zack got killed by a couple of shinra guys.

    Sure CC made him look like an all action hero, killing all those shinra army grunts, but tbh Cloud could have done the same, they were weak grunts with tiny HP, hell even level 7 Cloud could 1 hit these guys >.>

    Zacks death in the original was a lot more stark and they only made him out to be some great American Hero just to milk the game.
    Even in crisis core, that scene is almost the same. After fighting off thousands of soldiers and dodging missles, he is killed by the last two soldiers.

    And to be fair, any character from ff would die if they were shot up all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Even in crisis core, that scene is almost the same. After fighting off thousands of soldiers and dodging missles, he is killed by the last two soldiers.

    And to be fair, any character from ff would die if they were shot up all day.
    Cloud was stronger than Zack by virtue of everything he overcame. He didn't resist the influence of Jenova the way the strongest SOLDIERS like Zack did (nor did he become a mindless drone like the Sephiroth clones); he overcame it. In doing so, he became the most powerful person alive, which he proves by outright annihilating Sephiroth in their one on one battle at the end of FFVII. Zack was a strong soldier, but I think it's safe to say that his will was weaker than Cloud, and that's why even when Cloud was a wimp, he turned defeat into victory (by pulling Sephiroth's sword out of himself and throwing it [and Sephiroth] into the lifestream).

    Zack was as strong as he was going to get, I think. And it wasn't enough to beat the newly awakened Sephiroth at Nibelheim. We all saw how strong Cloud became.

    Besides, Sneak Attack+KotR would outright destroy Zack.

    Note: Sneak Attack didn't exist in CC.

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    Crisis Core is merely Cloud's attempt to redeem himself by giving Zack a better memory than the one story he told. Crisis Core isn't a literal prequel like Before Crisis. It's all a memory (memories being unreliable).
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Crisis Core is merely Cloud's attempt to redeem himself by giving Zack a better memory than the one story he told. Crisis Core isn't a literal prequel like Before Crisis. It's all a memory (memories being unreliable).
    It is? Since when? I don't remember this being mentioned anywhere in the game.

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