I've always heard boobs were in the 8 lbs range myself. Though can't recall if that's 4 lbs per boob or 8 lbs per boob. Especially when you're in the DDD and up range. But I can't personally validate the claim with any cited data. I just know this is how my girlfriend feels with her boobage and if she didn't hate surgery and doctors so much I'm sure she'd seriously consider a breast reductionOriginally Posted by Spooniest
Where is this figure coming from?
I linked to a Wikipedia article on breast structure guys...Y U NO CLICK LINK
1.1 to 2.2 lbs per breast, that's what it says.
So my guessing about weight was off. It doesn't take awake from the fact that they are uncomfortable and cause pain. It's not all fun and games in that area.
Why don't we get back on topic?
Cidney is a new thing for Final Fantasy, and they are always trying to deliver new things. This wasn't a bad idea, just horribly horribly executed without the slightest bit of subtlety or grace.
At least what she's wearing looks fashionable enough. I was getting sick of all the buckles and zippers for god's sake.
Yeah, I think Nomura's getting his buckles and zippers jollies off redesigning batman suits and stuff, isn't he?
You're thinking of your head.
Agreed. It's like someone thought to do something nice and then someone else decided to just smurf it all up. I hope she's pleasant enough as a character.
Though I also want to note that they keep saying she's not important to the story, but the trailer spends a significant amount of time showing her off. I think I will write a letter expressing my disappointment, actually.
Why does it matter? Everybody's chest is showing. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
And to be fair, nobody even notices until that one person points it out.
Xenogears is the tragic story of how your whole life can take a crappy turn, just because you happened to see a lady in a wedding dress before her wedding.
This boy is crackin' up, this boy has broken down
This boy is crackin' up, this boy has broke down
The question about why it matters has already been answered repeatedly in this very thread.
I know I've posted Jimquisition in this thread earlier, but I'm on a massive binge watching every episode and god damn
Are men objectified in video games? Must watch viewing for anyone who has been interested by the issues raised in this thread. I particularly recommend it to Mr Loony BoB!
Yeah I'm completely sure you weren't flambloxomed by Cidney's vulumptuous bossoms until someone pointed out how curvacious they were popping out of that shirt. Anyone getting bamboozled over such mammaries must be kidding themselves.Why does it matter? Everybody's chest is showing. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
And to be fair, nobody even notices until that one person points it out.
Let me give you this virtual $1 million dollars. It's about as legit as your post was. Have fun spending it.
Men are largely not sexually objectified in video games, I don't think. They are, quite a disproportionate amount of the time, the main agents in the game that move the story forward and take actions that affect the plot. When females are given equal time, they are not given equal significance; i.e., they don't do a whole lot besides helping the male characters.
"But Spooooon!" you might say, "FFXIII! The Strong Female Characters! SEXISM IS OVER!"
If you have played the entire series, or even a large portion of it (as I have, up to XII which I did not finish), you know that what I'm saying is true.
How does this relate to sexual objectification?
Someone cannot be being objectified and be the sole agent working to move the plot forward (by their own decisions which succeed) at the same time. Granting a character in any narrative a moment where they are successfully acting to move the plot forward all by themselves is a very weighty decision for a writer to make, and it rarely, if ever, gets given to a female character in any FF game. I would challenge someone to create an extensive list of times females were granted agency in the plotline of a FF game.
One example I can immediately pull off the top of my head is FFIV. The Magus Sisters and Barbariccia are named characters in the story who attack the heroes.
...But then, they're villains.
FFV makes out better, what with Faris being all action-y early on, but she largely becomes irrelevant in the latter half of the game, providing mostly advice.
FFVI...um. It has a Female main character, yes. But she doesn't really do anything. She isn't her own master, she doesn't make any decisions that settle any plot points. It's suggested, but never followed through on. Celes and Relm fare no better, as their actions in the story (if present) are largely ineffectual.
I could go on. Women don't really do anything in the stories of FF, unless they're bad guys.
If you are a woman, a man, or either with a daughter who plays FF, I suggest you write to SE (snail mail) and complain...
I think this is kind of a festering thing in Japan right now. They've been shouting at their female senators "Get married!," arrested an artist for making a vagina-shaped kayak or something.
Women are kind of getting shafted in that country, really.
Is there a country where they aren't, to one extent or another?
If there is, I'm going to guess it's somewhere in Scandinavia. They always seem to be a bit more socially enlightened.
I do think Final Fantasy has some of the better examples of women as main characters, when they put their mind to it. OK, the player avatar in FFX may have been Tidus, but as far as I'm concerned Yuna was the protagonist. Arguably the same with XII and Ashe. And yeah, for all the nonsense XIII pulled they did at least put some decent women with agency in the lead roles.
So they do know how to do it properly. They just have to remember to.
This thread could've been a lot shorter if you'd posted that sooner, you monster.
That dude spreads out his argument very well, can tell a lot of research and editing went into perfectly articulating his argument. And he makes all valid points. The sexy male characters are just a nice side-effect of making sexy male characters that male gamers may want to be. Its never the intention for female gamers to oggle at
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I like cidney. I'm a bit hrmpf with the boobage but at the point i'm tired of complaining about it.
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