I mean, wow, nowadays I don't even have to look. I just see a thread title and think "Yup, that's a SuperMillionaire thread alright."
I mean, wow, nowadays I don't even have to look. I just see a thread title and think "Yup, that's a SuperMillionaire thread alright."
Swearing and explicitness and partial nudity, oh my!Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire
Yes, this stuff is a lot more 'adult' than when they were Disney stars, but they're no longer targeting children. What's the big deal?
These stars can do whatever they want with their bodies and musical careers. Might they be pressured into being more 'explicit' when they don't really want to be? Quite possibly. Certainly, that pressure should be frowned upon. But if it's their choice then what's the big problem?
Nick Jonas can take his shirt off as much as he likes. I'm not going to complain.
I personally think the reason why most child stars do more "racy" things when they get older is that they are no longer a very restrictive contract that holds them to family friendly standards.
A lot of people pile on Miley Cyrus for how she changed her imagine, but few people consider that it was really that long ago where she was in a contract that, in a way, told her how to eat, breathe, sleep, dress, maintain her hair, basically everything normal people take for granted. Obviously, the trade off is a truckload of cash, so she had that going for her.
Miley Cryus' (and other former child stars) antics may seem silly, unnecessarily edgy, or downright offensive depending on one's viewpoint. However, after being tied up with so much red tape for years on end there has to be a sense of relief and a strong desire to do something that completely goed the opposite direction of a family friendly image.
I'm not into that sort of scene either way, but I say good for them. If Miley Cyrus or the people mentioned in this thread's title want to put feather up their but and pretend to be a chicken, let them do it. The family friendly material isn't going anywhere, and there are sure to be new child stars to rise up and fill that void. It's not only the cycle of one aspect of the music world, but that's generally how people grow up.
If I were to show my 5, 10, and even 20 year old self how my life is now, there would probably be many things the other me doesn't approve of. But again, that's part of growing up. There's something seriously wrong if you don't change and, well, grow as a person throughout life.
Has Hilary Duff ever gotten a bit more "erotic" to use the thread's term?
Here's the thing, though: they basically go from the rough equivalent of G or PG-rated to R-rated when they reach adulthood. They should also at least keep their roots in mind. After all, without their roots, they would have never been famous in the first place.
I'm not going to complain if Nick Jonas takes off his shirt, but if he drops his pants and grabs his groin, like he did in a photo shoot, and drops expletives in his lyrics, then I will complain. The thing is, I think the amount of expletives, sex, drugs, and alcohol references is a big problem in music today, and if we don't do anything about it, it's only going to get worse!
And Hilary Duff stated that she would not return with an erotic image, which she proved on her new album, Breathe In, Breathe Out; it has the same feel as her old albums.
Is that your final answer?
Are child stars supposed to just release the same content for the rest of their careers? Maybe the reason Leonardo DiCaprio hasn't won an Oscar is because he stopped making trout like Growing Pains.
No, I don't want them to release the same content for the rest of their careers, but I don't want them to be explicit for the rest of their careers, either.
Last edited by SuperMillionaire; 11-09-2015 at 01:37 PM.
Is that your final answer?
Maybe it's because I've been on the internet since 1994 or so, or maybe it's the fact that I neither follow nor generally care what these two are doing in their careers, but from what you've talked about, linked to, and what some rather quick google searches have shown me, what they're doing is anything but shocking or sleazy. In fact, I'm honestly not sure how you get shocking or sleazy from photos where the clothing their wearing is remarkably tame, or the nudity isn't even really shown. Nude photos where you don't see a single breast or genitalia is shocking? Really?
And out of curiosity I googled this nude photo shoot you say Demi did because I figured it probably wasn't half as bad as you imply. I was actually surprised though. Not by the fact that she did nude photos since the most you see is her butt and everything is covered up. What actually surprised me is the shoot was apparently done with no makeup or photo retouching. Not only is that pretty rare these days, it's also just kind of nice to see a female celebrity who many would probably not say has a perfect body put herself out there like that. And she looked pretty great in those photos too. The woman isn't too confident (there's really no such thing); she's as confident as every person should be able to feel in their body. That's just badass.
Master of the Fork
Cid's Knight
Bulltrout Vivi! She just released a song called confident! It has Michelle Rodriguez in it!
So as Demi says in this song, Super Mill, What's wrong with being Confident? She's confident with how she looks and how she acts, so what's wrong with that? You're shaming her for being confident with herself and her body.
Well the point is that they're adults now and their previous works shouldn't influence their future plans. I get the feeling you wouldn't be okay with some sort of artist coming in as an adult and releasing similar material, but why does it matter that they were formally with Disney?
I don't mind if she's just wearing a swimsuit, but if she's nude, then I have a problem. True, the private parts may be strategically covered, but still.
And about Selena Gomez's album, though it does not contain any F-bombs, it does contain a number of S-bombs. Despite this, it does not have the PA sticker on it. I revisited FYE in the same mall this past Sunday, and they were playing a few songs from her new album, and I noticed that she said the S word several times in the lyrics of a few of her songs.
Is that your final answer?
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there was a picture here
I was really, really hoping this thread was about a sex tape of them or, knowing SuperMillionaire, at least something about them sharing a kiss or something.* But you're just talking about them doing stuff separately and that's a lot less hot.
* Incidentally, how did you feel when you saw Jennifer Lawrence and Natalie Dormer kiss?
I didn't see that one, Mister Adequate.
Anyway, I think music today has become way too explicit. If it's occasional, fine, but now it's become too much, too often. I remember talking to someone else about this, and they told me that if you don't have anything nice to sing about, then you shouldn't sing at all. It's like the saying, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all," applied to music. And to be honest, I have to partially agree with that person. On one hand, it's freedom of speech and freedom of expression, and I don't believe that anyone should be banned, but at the same time, I also reserve the right to not be subjected to explicit lyrics if I don't want to be, and I do believe in relegation. I'm not saying that we should eliminate explicit lyrics all together, I'm just saying we should limit it and relegate it. The problem is that these days, it's excessive, and not done in moderation. I believe that explicit lyrics should be the exception, not the norm.
Is that your final answer?
Master of the Fork
Cid's Knight
Supermillionaire, It is your opinion that it's too explicit. The reason it's so popular is because everyone else doesn't care. There isn't a problem with music. The only problem is that you're trying to place your morals onto others. If you don't like the music, don't listen to it. Again to quote Demi Lovato, What's wrong with being Confident?
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