Because I personally know friends that went out and bought a Wii for Brawl right after it was released.
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Your own personal anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything.
There are probably a ton of people who bought a Wii for Brawl, but you can't just guess it's true and then post a bunch of numbers that are consistent with what the Wii has been doing since launch and call it proof.
I just randomly got the idea to make a song about the Subspace Emissary:
(it's basically a spoof of the Zaboomafoo song)
While fighting in the stadium one day
Mario and Kirby saw something strange
A gigantic halberd that liked to shoot out shadow bugs
They followed this weird flying ship
That had Meta Knight mask at its tip
The Smash Brothers were headed just around the bend
Where're they going? I don't know
How do we get there? Come on let's go!
Me and you and Tabuu!
Coming along to see what's new
We're doing the things that Smash Brothers do
New Smash Brother friends to see
"This World" is the place to be!
Mario and Pit fighting Primids by the bunch
Captain Falcon striking ROB with a Falcon Punch!
Me and you and Tabuu!
Coming along to see what's new
We're doing the things that Smash Brothers do
Me and you and Tabuu!
Coming along to see what's new
In "This World" we're waiting for you!
o_O
Woahness.
i want to read that song (no matter how crappy i know it will be :p) but i don't want to ruin ALL of the surprises, i already know the characters and the stages, but i'll leave the 'story' (notice the inverted commas :p) a secret to me...i already ruined part of it by accidentally finding out about Pokey as a boss :( but ah well...
as for the release date, most gaming sites say about June, but if it was scheduled for a June release surely there would be a concrete date, seeing as it's already May...I'm going to say i'll be waiting at least 2 or 3 more months, but i REALLY hope not :(
EDIT: i want you to load this video, then go to 4:10 and tell me what Zero Suit Samus does:
YouTube - Smash Bros Brawl COMPREHENSIVE Moveset - Samus & Zero Suit
now people told me that her third jump was her whip (which goes to the nearest stage side, like her grapple, if it will reach), which could explain that part in the video, however, she appears to do a third jump, as she flashes when she's doing it (a typical 'up+b' trait) and THEN grapples to the edge...i was just wondering if she was one of those few who could still attack after the up+b attack (mr. game and watch is the only one i've heard of who can do this) and then uses her grapple to recover. Could somebody clear this up for me?
Summary :p :
1. Is Zamus' up+b a third jump or a whip-to-stage move?
2. Can she attack after her up+b jump (like Game & Watch)?
I love this game.
Likes: Toon Link, Meta Knight, Pikachu, Zelda/Sheik, Mr. Game & Watch, Captain Falcon, Samus, Luigi, Jigglypuff, Sonic, and lots of others!
Dislikes: Olimar, Ice Climbers
alright. A good number of characters can do regular A attacks after their up+B. Off the top of my head, both Sonic and Snake can, as can ROB.
Secondly, ZSS has a Down+B move where she does a flip over a person. Her Up+B will grab onto the edge of a stage if you're below the level of it. Her side+B move will grab it if you're about even with it. If you're above it, you're better off using the Down+B flip to recover. I never really use the Up+B move to recover, as most hits send you well above the level of the stage, so I'm unsure if she can attack again after using it... but chances are if you're using it in the air and not above ground, it's to grab the stage.
THE JACKEL
There are three characters that have "tether" Up B's (Well technically there are 4 but I'll explain that in a bit)
Olimar and ivysaur's up B's put them into a "free fall state" (meaning you cant do squat once their up B's are used) but zero suit can actually multi tether cause her side B AND Up B can tether as well. She is the only character that can use her Up B (thats a tether) and still tether again.
Ice climbers up B is technically considered a tether recovery but they at least have over B still as a recovery option.
This information is important kerrod because tether recoverys can be gimped in this game. As a ivysaur lover and main this is the most tragic news ever. However your gonna find olimar to be pretty durn annoying so just grab the ledge any time you knock him off. He wont be able to sweetspot because your already occupying the stage. Oh and Zero suit samus is soooo cool. Have fun with her ey? ;)
It's only a tether recovery if you're close enough and underneath a ledge. Otherwise it'll do the same thing as it did in Melee.
What's so wrong with my song?It isn't that bad. It rhymes quite a lot and it's quite catchy. The only thing it does spoil is the name of a Subspace Emissary character and one thing Captain Falcon does to another character.
alriiiiight, i sorta get it :p, but if you do the up+b above the stage, does she do that flippy jump thing in that movie? and if so, she MUST be able to attack after her up+b, cos she still grapples the edge...
I told you Down+B does the flip, if you attack during it she just does a kick. But after she flips to an equal height to where you started, you can attack with anything.
Zero Suit Samus- Dojo
THE JACKEL
Is the online play troubled by horrible lag? I haven't attempted to try it yet.
Also I recently discovered that Jigglypuff's special goes beyond it blowing up real big and that you can actually stay that big and attack characters. The problem is I have no idea how I was able to do that. My question is does anyone know how you stay big?
Me and my friends did that once...I think one of them said it was a glitch in the super smash. Sometimes Jigglypuff will blow up that big and attack other characters, and sometimes it will be the standard super smash. I don't know why it does that or how frequently or anything, so don't quote me on anything:p
I just read up on it and apparently it's a glitch that can only be done on the Bridge of Eldin. You have to use Jigglypuff's final smash in the area where the bridge is broken and Jigglypuff will collide with it and stay big. Attack and speed all stay the same and it's really easy to walk or fly off a level.
yeah, it's just a glitch, i'm pretty sure you shouldn't be able to do it...i saw a video where they were playing as jiggly on that bridge stage (from twilight princess, with that king guy running across) and when the middle of the bridge broke/fell down, they got a smash ball and waited for the portal thing at the top to rebuild it...as it was dropping the pieces into place, they jumped in the middle and used the final smash. When the bridge was complete, jiggly was on top, still big, and able to fight...try that if you want :D :p
and jackel, i know you told me that, i did get that, sorry, i was just wondering if she did that flip when you're ABOVE the stage if you press up+b (AS WELL AS down+b), like in the clip...you see, i'm confused as to what she does when you press up+b above the stage in the air, i know that on the ground she throws her whip up, but does it do the same in the air?
Up+b Air Above: ?
Up+b Air Below: latch to stage
Up+b Ground: whip vertical
it does the exact same thing in the air, and if you actually jump out under an enemy in the air and do it before they reach the stage, it can be an effective meteor smash.
THE JACKEL
cool, thanks a lot, sorry i was so difficult :p
For you handful of Europeans who haven't imported it yet. xP
Super Smash Bros: Smash Bros. Gets Official European Release Date
so how long will Australia get it after them? :( are we included in that release because we're PAL or what? :confused: if it's gonna be too much longer i'm just importing it :mad:
I feel like I've almost waited out for tooooo long.
When I buy this game I will keep it under my armpit to keep it warm. mm my precious baby.
You must have me confused with someone else xD Maybe that whorebag Psychotic. I generally find those genres boring, but there are of course exceptions.
I'm a Survival Horror/Mystery/Puzzle/Adventure kind of guy.
Levian is actually just Psychotic's alternate account. Don't let them fool you.
I registered first. :cool:
I guess you're right. You're more of a Nintendo fan than him. No offense Psychotic.
Also, I guess I'll bring up this weird issue I had: Has anyone had their replays altered before? There was this replay that I saved on a custom level where Bowser and Olimar got to do their Final Smashes and killed themselves with it. It was working just fine a few weeks ago. Now that replay doesn't even show them doing their Final Smashes and it just has everyone killing themselves. It can't be a different replay since the date on that replay is the same. :confused:
It hasn't happened to me (I don't really save a lot of replays) but apparently that happens sometimes. It doesn't record actual video, just button presses. If even one button press screws up, it can mess up the whole replay. Copying to an SD card might have something to do with it, but I dunno.
Hmm, seems like a lot of you are playing.....
Maybe we could try to set up a tournament some time.
I'll post my friend code sometime later today or tomorrow.
:crying2: I want to exchange friend codes and brawl people :crying2: as soon as i get brawl i'm hoarding friend codes and throwing mine around like a slut, i'll brawl 'til my fingers fall off, damn it! :mad2:
So I'm not alone with this problem. That's quite strange though. Then how come replays of matches with items on aren't affected? :confused:
I know it's just one replay but still, it was the funniest one that I recorded (Gray Fox repeatedly falling off the level, Bowser and Olimar commiting suicide with their final smashes, and me as Olimar picking up Pikmin without realizing they were falling off the level).
ARGH! poo! i was thinking 'well only about a month to the EUR release of Brawl', but we're only in APRIL, meaning it's TWO months :crying2: this whole 'waiting' thing is reeeeeeally getting old, i might not buy it when it IS released just to boycott Nintendo :rolleyes2 :tongue: as if that would ever happen
I guess we can play Mario Kart Wii, while we wait?
I heard it's pretty nostalgic (:D!).
yeah, i was thinkin of getting that, but i have a list of about 20 games that i want to buy cos i just bought my wii recently, so im a bit behind in the games department :p i think metroid prime 3: corruption is next, oh, how i love metroid :bigsmile:
in fact, i think i'm gonna change my sig to a samus-themed one, because on earthbound right now (for those who've played it) i'm just in that stonehenge area searching for the fabled "Sword of Kings" for 'Kai' (yes, KAI, i refuse to call him 'Poo', i mean, wtf man?) but yeah, that's turned me off playing cos it's so boring every time i fire it up :rolleyes2 and yes, i KNOW i don't need it, but i want it, and im not yet strong enough to just go through killing everybody one hit, soooo yeah...now im playing metroid fusion instead, and i just finished zero mission :)(much better in my opinion), oh, and mario galaxy, of course...
well THAT was a random tangent :p sorry to have wasted your precious time
Yesterday I finished collecting all of the boss trophies. :D
Well, except for some like Winged Tabuu and the Porky Statue. I got all of the ones you get using trophy stands though.
Strangely enough, Petey Pirahna and Duon took the longest to get their trophies. Although Meta Ridley and Tabuu are the two last bosses I got them quite quickly compared to the former two. If it wasn't for the fact that I let the Meta Ridley trophy fall of the level I could've got it a lot quicker. For Tabuu I spent a lot of time waiting around for a trophy stand to appear.
after I unlocked all the music, stages, and characters, I didn't care about getting anything else. So I still have a bunch of challenges to do, and I didn't get a single boss trophy. Doing stuff like that actually sucks the fun out of the game imo. It's a great game and tons of fun, but when you have to play hardcore single player to do stuff, it's not very fun anymore. AKA, beat classic, all star, 100 man melee and boss mode with all characters. That is anti my definition of fun. That's just tedious
THE JACKEL
lol good plan. Except my other friends who like the game own it themselves. And on top of that, I'm better than all my friends here, so it's much faster if I do it myself. I mean, I play the game on occasion, less now that I have mario kart, but I usually beat classic everytime I turn it on. After I do it with every character, I'll move onto all star. etc etc
It'll get done eventually, I'm just not in a rush to do those things, like I was to unlock the things that actually make multiplayer better.
THE JACKEL
I haven't gotten any of the Boss trophies either. xD I do have over 500 trophies, though.
As for the challenges, I'm missing Beat Boss Battles on Hard/Very Hard/Assrape difficulties, and Get All Stickers. I have the rest of them unlocked. And have had them unlocked for quite some time.
Don't even get me started on Boss Battles on Intense Mode. I haven't defeated it on Very Hard or Intense yet. I got killed on the first boss every time I've tried it on Intense Mode with Marth (my best character) before I could even get the boss' HP to 1/2. :yuck:
As for stickers, I've actually only enabled Sandbags and put items on High so I can get a lot of them and complete my collection.
You could do All Star on Co-op Mode with your friends to get all of the Final Smash Trophies. Of course, there's a few All Star challenges that have to be done on single player. :(
I guess I can see why you don't find it fun, but I personally think it's kind of fun knowing that you still have a challenge out there that you need to accomplish. Seeing a closed window on the Challenges Board just waiting to be shattered by completing it's goal is enough to motivate me to try to clear that Challenge.
Well, except for the really insane ones like defeating the 100 Man Brawl with everyone and defeating Boss Battles on Intense Mode (poor Marth :(). But getting boss trophies with my buddies helping me out was quite fun (even if they weren't the best at dodging the bosses' attacks). The feeling of accomplishment from getting a Boss Trophy was worth the effort. Especially when it came to turning Tabuu into a trophy. :D
On a side not I defeated the 15 Minute Brawl on Saturday and got the Green Alloy trophy. :D
same...
anyway, i want a real person's opinion instead of reviews and game sites, etc. Is the online play really bad and laggy?
i know your internet speed, etc. matter, but if you and the other person/people have a relatively good connection, should it play well?
It's not as bad as some people claim it is. Although it can get quite choppy the match usually doesn't freeze up for more than one second. It can mess up moves that require a lot of accuracy and timing. (such as Ness' PK Thunder Recovery and Luigi's Flaming Uppercut)
But if you're lucky enough to have a really good connection (like the one I had when I first versed ljkkjlcm9 online) the matches are so smooth you probably wouldn't be able to tell that it was an online match since it's just as smooth as an offline match.
Most of the time it'll be alright, but sometimes it'll be quite slow and it seems like it's taking your character a super loooong time to just kick somebody; this could be because I'm accessing non-European servers in Europe, though :p
Does no one else lose them self whilst playing online? as in, getting confused which character is you until you're flying off the track? It's always so intense that I'm all WOAAH WHERE AM I *button bash*
Why did it take me a month to find out about this trick?
Wow. That trick would sure make for some really awesome snapshots. :D
We should have a funniest snapshot competition on EoFF one time. Even though most of them aren't that amusing (like that Pik-Man photo I mailed to Roto with a Pikmin replacing Marth's head). I've also got some other ones like the Mario Bros. rocking out at the 8 PM concert, the Nintendog getting shot at with the Dragoon, Mario, Luigi, and Yoshi going sliding in the snow, and R.O.B. hitching a ride on Wario's Bike.
haha,you should post a few of those :p nothin' beats a good screenshot :tongue: although it DOES make you realize the real limitations of the Wii, seeing as two characters are usually fused together or through each other :mad: :p
BTW: i see people exchanging 'Brawl' friend codes on other forums and they're only 3 lots of 4 numbers (XXXX-XXXX-XXXX), instead of the usual 'Wii' friend codes, which are four lots of four numbers (XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX), so do you get a special 'Brawl' one when you buy the game or what?
You get a special friend code for all online Wii games. The friend code for your console is just for sending messages and stuff from Wii to Wii.
Which is really dumb. It doesn't really make sense why you can't just have a centralized FC.
I can do it for you, if you want.
yeah, centralized FC FTW. There is absolutely no sense in changing it all the time :mad: i must have looked like quite the fool when i suggested swapping codes now for when it's released (to Monol) seeing as i won't have one until that day :p my bad...i hope this thread's still going in june :( you won't leave me, will you guys?......guys?!
Unless I missed somthing you didnt make yourself look like a fool in the least bit. Last time I checked we can still swap friend codes and still play the game. Unless otherwise then it is I that is the fool :p.
On that note...im not going anywhere for a looong time.
Heck I still play melee a ton and intend to do the same for brawl :cool:
Thanks. :D
I wouldn't. Even though a lot of other people might you'll have fellow Europeans to Brawl against. I'm more than sure that the staff will allow this thread to be revived when Brawl comes out in Europe. Either that or they'll allow a new Brawl thread.
Sheesh, I haven't played Melee at all ever since I got Brawl.
The first match I'm probably going to have on Melee will be using Pichu on Final Destination (alternate music) or on Mute City. Seeing Melee things that I liked that didn't make it in Brawl will be nice. :D
...yeah. I guess it'd be redundant if Pichu, Mute City, (seeing as how Port Town is basically the same) and the Multi Man Melee 2 music (same as the Melee Opening music on Final Destination) did make it in. I still really liked them though. Besides, I don't really find the Melee Opening music as epic as the Multi Man Melee 2 music.
We interrupt this conversation to bring you a funny looking picture.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...k4/tooslo-.gif
(resists the urge to laugh) I'll admit that's quite funny but...
Although I still don't completely like Sonic being in Brawl I think it's somewhat mean making fun of his newest game even before it's coming out.
So I was wondering, how are you guys at Meteor Smashing? I didn't try it out much in Melee but I'm quite decent at it in Brawl. I find R.O.B.'s and Falco's Meteor Smashes the easiest to hit with.
Wolf's meteor smash is hard to get off, but I've done it a number of times. Diddy is quite easy to meteor smash with as well. ZSS can use the Up+B and catch people trying to recover over her and meteor smash them. Then of course theirs Ike and Kirby's Up B on the edge as well. For Mario, I've always preferred using the cape... basically best edge guard in the game.
THE JACKEL
i've tried a few on melee, but i was pretty unsuccessful...i can never get the right timing. Who's easiest to meteor smash with on melee?
What's meteor smashing?
An attack that sends people flying straight down. Obviously very useful when edge guarding. :P
There is spiking and then there is meteor smashing.
Spikes send you flying down and you cant recover while meteors you can. In melee theres only a handful of characters that can spike and im not sure about brawl. Falco in melees is the easiest to pull off though. I find it rather difficult in brawl so props to evastio.
I love charizards and toonlinks though. Diddys is also really fun along with lucas's. Never was a big fan of the cape...especially in brawl seeing how players dont have to be facing the same direction of the ledge to grab it so I dont find it all that useful. Plus I think the hit box got smaller...
Oh well meteors are fun :D one of my favorite aspects of smash actually (I looove edgeguarding)
You can meteor smash people with that? So far whenever I've tried that I just end up helping them get back onto the stage.
Unless of course you kill yourself doing it. It happened way too much in Melee for me.
I haven't killed myself in Brawl doing it so far. I find meteor smashing before doing your mid air jump helps increase your chances of not killing yourself. With some characters (like R.O.B. who's one of my best characters) it doesn't make much of a difference since their recovery is still decent even after using a mid air jump. I sometimes also just stay on the stage and jump and do a meteor smash then. That way you have absolutely no chance of killing yourself.
Dancing blade was my fav meteor smash for melee...B+Down Bx2 is my fav bc it can hit more than once and you can do it in mid-air
Try jumping off the edge and doing it, rather than standing there. If you're on the stage, you have to hit it perfectly. But if you jump off under them, but still above the edge of the stage, she'll use it. Then use your second jump and Down+B to recover.
Fox had the best edge guard in melee with his reflector.
THE JACKEL
Oh yeah. I forgot that she can still move after doing her Up B.
Also, does anyone know how you're supposed to meteor smash with Luigi, Lucario, Snake, Mr. Game & Watch, and Sonic? The first three always just end up sending people up or to the side when I use their down B while the last two always send people flying to the side.
Im pretty sure sonic doesnt have one.
GnW had his key spike in the last game but im not sure its back in brawl.
Snakes Foward air meteors at the end (the ax kick of death :p)
I think lucarios has a sweetspot but im not sure on that (i dont use him)
And luigis meteor is his taunt of course. Only taunt that does damage :D (At least physical damage)
Luigi's taunt?! can you even do that in the air? :confused: i can't envisage how that could possibly work as a meteor smash :p I'd like to see it done, just out of interest...and G&W still has his key spike doesn't he? it's just that if you miss when meteor smashing it's instant death :tongue: hell, even if you hit them good you'll probably still plummet to your bloody end...
Personally, I'm really looking forward to playing as Luigi...he looks badass :cool: and that's unfortunate for sonic ^^^ just another thing to add to the 'sonic sucks' list...i wouldn't think he's THAT bad, but the reports aren't good...
EDIT: well here's Luigi's taunt meteor smash, but it's set up, and that situation is extremely unlikely to occur long enough for anybody to meteor smash them :p :
YouTube - Super Smash Brothers Brawl - Luigi Taunt Spike
i'd still like to know if he has an air one...
Mr. Game & Watch's down air attack just sends people to the side now instead of straight down.
As for Luigi I heard his down air is also suppose to meteor smash people but I'm not sure what part of it (like the feet, knees, etc) performs the meteor smash.
I melee luigis meteor was one of the weird ones where you had to be below the person to send them flying down...so weird but extremly satisfying when you pulled it off.
below them?! i was playing it this afternoon, actually, and i was Luigi for the most part of it, and i was trying his down+a to see what i could get out of it...i saw it a few times where the foe got meteor smashed but it was hectic and i couldn't see exactly what happened...but i kept getting 'meteor smash' points in the....end...thingy :p you know where it says the winner and all the different awards and penalties? anyway, if it's the same in brawl, then it has something to do with his down a, but as Monol said, it could be something wierd...
Evastio, have you sent me all of the screenshots you want me to convert for you?
Alright. Just let me know when you're done and I'll do them all at once.
2062-9110-4532 is my friend code. Anyone who wants a match had better speak up now, because I'm leaving soon.
YouTube - Jigglypuff + Fan = This is this infinite?
alright, so here's what i think i saw with Luigi (in melee, it may have changed for brawl)...i use his down smash a lot in the air and i'm PRETTY sure i saw a meteor smash when it connected with the bottom of his feet (about .5 of a second after i executed it :p)...which would seem logical, but people are saying how it's different and you hit them from below ( :confused: ) up there ^^^ so i'm not sure, but that's what i thought i saw
That's an awesome screenshot Roto. :D
I should come up with more funny original screenshots like that.
I think you're right about that. I also experimented with Luigi's air down attack and found out that the heel of his foot seems to be the one meteor smashing although it doesn't work all of the time. I think that's where your 0.5 second lag comes in.
So basically if Luigi's facing left:
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That slash is Luigi facing left and the period is where you're supposed to sweetspot his air down A. You hit with it half a second after he does it and it's a meteor smash. I think.
Also, Roto helped me transfer some of my snapshots. So here they are!! (* means I/my brother planned out making the screenshot, ^ means the picture purely happened by coincidence)
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...c08dc51614.jpg
It's a bird!! It's a plane!! It's Pik-man!! ^
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...43d242d538.jpg
I don't really have a funny caption for this one. I just took it since I thought it looked cool. *
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...de5e3f23b7.jpg
It's just like the good old NES days playing Duck Hunt. ^
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...5875e4377d.jpg
This one isn't mine. But since Roto converted it I decided I might as well show it to you guys.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...322dd924e5.jpg
This is probably why Meta Knight's ship is a flying ship opposed to a sailing ship. *
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...bdefba67d5.jpg
The Mario Bros. are rocking out at KK's concert. (I actually have this as my Computer background now) *
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...31344e32b6.jpg
Groudon vs. the Ultimate Chimera!! Who'll win? ^
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...af57cd1e0d.jpg
This was actually my brother's idea for a screenshot. He wanted to do an ET picture with ET riding the boy's bike running away from the police. Although it didn't turn out the way he wanted it to it's still quite funny. *
Also, I think we should have a funny snapshot contest.
That Luigi one is mine. :p
That makes sense. xP I knew someone besides me took it.
oooh, a screenshot competition would be great (even though i can't enter -_-) i vote yes!
so far i think the nintendog one is funniest, with the dragoon (?) crosshair on its head :p and the caption is great
and on the Luigi thing, Evastio, that sounds about right, because that seems to be what's been happening for me :)
I'd enter. And I can upload screenshots for anyone who can't do it themselves.
Any Australians in the house? :P
Super Smash Bros Brawl
I've had Brawl since release, but it wasn't until now that I could really play it online, so here's my FC:
5412-9698-2127
I added a bunch of people to my list, but I got kind of tired of writing them down so I skipped out on some of them. But yeah, feel free to add me. Brawling online is pretty fun even if it's pretty laggy.
edit: Is anyone interested in an EoFF Brawl tournament?
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
take THAT Europe! aaaah MAN, i can't WAIT!
Thanks roto, just in case i hadn't whinged enough, or you didn't work it out from my excessive excitement, i'm an Australian, and i'm in the house :p
it's still 43 days :( but oh well, yay for me!
and i'm totally down for an EoFF tournament if i can get the game before you start it :p which is highly unlikely, now that i think about it :spin:
EoFF tourney sounds great Hsu :)
Though I haven't played Brawl in quite a stretch, I'd like to participate in the tournament.
I would be for an EoFF Brawl Tournament. :D
I suppose I would do one as well
but might I suggest two types...
individual and pairs?
THE JACKEL
Although there's a lot of EoFFers that are better at Brawl than me, I guess I'd join a Brawl tournament.
As for the team tournament that sounds like an awesome idea, even though I have no idea who to choose as my partner.
I'll go ahead and make a thread about it :)
Those were some fun matches NeoCracker.
Basically I was Aviro. The Ice Climbers and R.O.B. are two of my best characters which would explain why they were the only ones I won with. Especially in that Pokemon Stadium 2 match where I killed myself with DK (one of my worst characters) twice.
ice climbers? i've tried to be good with them, but Nana always dies before i can do a decent amount of damage and that not only halves my attacks, but takes away my third jump, so i always die :p i'd LIKE to be good with them, but it's not gonna happen (this is on melee, by the way)
Yeah, the AI for nana can be stupid sometimes. Once when I was playing them, nana threw a smart bomb at me, and killed me with it.
I embaracingly killed myself with Metaknight at Hyrule. :p
Though nothing beat the sweet, sweet sound of hearing "Bowser Wins" as I kicked but with him. :p
You remind me of me back then when the Ice Climbers were my worst character. Basically the trick with the Ice Climbers is to keep them together, even if it means jumping off the stage and using Belay to rescue Nana. Also, take advantages of their grabs and grab resistance. There's two of them so their grab attacks (pressing A while holding someone) will be twice as effective and you can actually use Nana to side smash your opponent and KO your opponents while Popo is holding them (although it's less effective in Brawl than it was in Melee). You can get Nana to help you to get out of grabs because only one of the Ice Climbers can be grabbed while the other is free to attack. You'll want to stick with their ground attacks since they have much more power and knockback than their aerial attacks, although their down air and neutral air attacks are decent for getting back on the ground and for attacking opponents before they attack you, respectively. Even though most people think the Ice Climber's special attacks are useless that's hardly the case. Their Squall Hammer and Twin Blizzard (using Down B in the air so they send freezing wind in the same direction) is really good for building damage and stopping opponents in their tracks. Their Ice Shot is quite tricky to dodge since there's two Ice Shots and they fall quite fast in the air and Belay is quite a decent vertical finisher if you connect with it.
Yeah, it's quite hard to control yourself when you're gliding. I actually killed myself before with Meta Knight's Up B as well.
I'm quite good with Bowser myself. We should have a Bowser match and see who's better with him.
Ganondorf is top tier.
But anyway~
It's not fun with no one to play with, or without online play.
I juiced mine out in a week, and though I haven't gotten everything, I don't exactly have the strive to.
But once I get that router? <3
Marth, DeDeDe, and Link ftw, by the way. IMO.
I checked out Smash Boards to see the new Tier Discussions.
So far, it seems Snake is garunteed a place in the Top Tier when the lists start coming out, MetaKnight and Marth are two other possobilities.
Shieks nerfs were enough to where she doesn't seem to be considered Top Tier anymore, and with Marths Buffs and Nerfs, it's arguable.
Not really sure why I mentioned this, as I don't play based on Tiers. (I've wanted to use, and have been using Metaknight since it came out, he just so happens to be a powerful Character. :p)
Of course it's early, and all of this is likely to change soon enough.
I just think it's interesting to look into from time to time. :p
Yay~ I got a Wii as a wedding present so I bought SSBB today~
Friend code: 3609-1940-8431
*goes off to unlock people*
Oh, you're so getting added now. :love:
Finally obtained a Wii, can't wait to play you guys. Friend Code is 2492-5015-7910.
YAY! Now both your butts are added.
Those were some awesome matches, NeoCracker. :) You played lots of heavy characters I'm not used to fighting against. :p
I said before, I'm surprisingly good with Bowser. :p
Of course this time around he doesn't suck.
Edit: And the heavy characters are probably to make me feel big, as in real life I'm underweight. :p
And yes, they were fun.
I finally got the chance to add everyone. Hope to play you guys soon. :p
I'll probably be back on soon enough. Just need to give the fingers a rest and the tummy a fill. :p
I'll add everyone when my husband stops playing his sonic game and then I have to watch the House season finale, and -THEN- I might get some SSBB time.
I'll prolly be playing -all- day Thursday and Friday. If I'm not on SSBB I'm on Mario Kart. :D
And wtf Cracker, I hate heavy characters, I don't have the patience to press a button and then have the attack take more than .5 seconds to actually move. e e;
Does Gannondorf count as heavy? I want to get him unlocked because I was playing online brawl and yeah.. who ever that dude was, was doing some serious ownage.
Ganondorf is definitely a heavy. He's like a slower version of Falcon. But he's so freaking beefy it makes up for it.
Ganon is definately a heavier dude.
He was my best in Melee. I'm not as good with him now, but I still got some skill.
Maybe I'll force myself to like Ganon or something...
Either way, I added all the SSBB friend codes that my attention span could handle. *skips off to kill things*
NeoCracker: underweight ftw! :p, but i still like fast characters...although i AM looking forward to using Dedede, and Bowser, now that he's good...and Ganondorf too...and Donkey Kong :p are there any i missed?
I'd say Ike is almost as heavy as Ganondorf, from my experience playing as him.
A bit lighter then him, but I say that sounds about right.
I think he fits right between because he was the first person I used and he was fast for his size(I kept up with metaknight)
Ike is big and slow, but he also has some really fast moves that if you utilize well, he doesn't seem very slow. That's his biggest advantage over the other heavy characters
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Plus he fights for his friends :D
And you'll get no sympathy from him either.
You know, I just noticed Peach has a really nice Rack.
What? She has a nice chest.
I can't be the only one whose noticed.
(And I bet you all thought I was talking about the tennis racket. :rolleyes2)
haha, OH EWE AH SEW FUNNEH! that would be 'tennis racquet', my friend (even though both spellings are acceptable, i prefer the traditional one :)) :p and i can't say i've ever noticed :tongue: besides, i like tough women like Samus much better ;) :bigsmile:
EDIT: and on that topic, can somebody here tell me what Samus is like in this game? i've heard she's pretty sh*t, which would be VERY disappointing, and i hope they didn't weaken/slow/destroy her too much to compensate for Zamus...i just wanted to ask a REAL person about it, rather than hearing about it from randoms...
She seems basically the same to me. Of course I've never played Samus much in Melee, so I'm not the best judge.
Zero Suite moves very fast though. Can't recall much else as i haven't used her much in this version either. Though if you enjoyed Samus in Melee, you'll probably find her just as fun in Brawl.
PS: If you haven't done so, check out Peaches boobs and you'll see what I mean.
This will likely be my last comment on this matter. :p
ugh, ok, they WOULD be nice, were they on a real person :p ok?! HAPPY NOW?!
thanks NeoCracker, but as you said, you haven't played as her much :) so does anybody else want to comment on the Samus/Zamus matter? perhaps somebody who's used her a fair bit in both games?
EDIT: and another thing, why does Zamus' gun suck so much? apparently her whip is uber powerful :rolleyes2 but her gun fires like, 2 metres and doesn't even do that much :p so WHY is she considered so strong and high-tiered, WHY was Samus (apparently) nerfed because of her? :( and WHY didn't they put dark samus or ridley as playable characters? :tongue:
dark samus had so much potential...she could be a semi-clone of samus, but with Phazon rage-mode as her final smash and a freeze rocket as her 'charge shot' (neutral b) which temporarily froze the opponent depending on how long you charged it (like Lucas' PK Freeze)...that would be cool :p...and MAYBE for recovery she could have like, feet rocket things like on Corruption instead of screw attack :p
Her gun sucking is probably just in reference to Metroid Zero Mission when she temporarily loses her armor and her gun sucks.
I haven't played much as Zero Suit Samus, but from what I've seen, she just plays a lot differently than other characters. I'm sure if you got used to her specific play style it wouldn't be too bad to play as her.
My Brawl code is: 0430-9108-8294
Yeah, ZSS is completely different from other characters. The armor pieces do a lot of damage and have great knockback, so be sure to throw them after transforming. The third jump is actually her down special, while her up special can be used as a tether. You can also use her up special multiple times in a jump. Using it twice in midair will cause all opponents hit to be spiked down. With the side special, the end of the whip will first push the target, then send them flying a good distance, but if you miss, you will be open for an attack.
she better be good, cos Samus is looking pretty crap at the moment :( and if they BOTH suck, then Nintendo can die in a fire...
Why do you think Samus looks like crap? She's still one of the most fun characters to play, in my opinion.
well all of the reports i've heard say she has no strengths and many weaknesses, now that she's slow, weaker rockets, etc. and i know i'm really basing this off nothing, but i just want to make sure she's still able to hold her own
Samus is awesome. I don't see much of a difference at all between how she was in Melee and now.
Zero Suit Samus is awesome to play as too; sure, some of her moves have a bit of a lag, but they are quite effective after all. You just have to aim well.
Samus definatly got nerfed...But she has the most enjoyable new play style (next to pikachu) on the competitive scene.
Use Z in the air...her grappler *drools* so fun...use it, love it, destroy with it!
As long as you fight with the aerial grappler than shes the most fun veteran from melee by far :D
Yay samus!
well it's good to finally hear GOOD reports about Samus :p man i'm sick of waiting for this game...i still play melee every chance i get, but it's still 33 friggin days 'til Brawl is released here :( poor form, nintendo, poor form...
while we're here, does somebody feel like explaining what wavedashing is? :tongue: i know they took it out of brawl, but i've never gotten a straight answer as to what it actually is in melee...
also, can toon link charge his up b like big link can?
That's what we have Main Page - SmashWiki for!
As for Pro's and Con's in SSBB:Quote:
Originally Posted by SSB For Samus
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Pros:
* Multiple useful projectiles. Her Charge Shot and Super Missiles are some of the most powerful projectiles in the game, and her Homing missiles are extremely useful.
* Can missile-cancel
* Down Aerial is a powerful spike
* Down Smash is quick and powerful
* Back Aerial still a good finisher, and Down Tilt is an even better one
* Forward, Neutral, and Up Aerials and Up Smash are quick and have high priority
* Bomb Jumping gives great horizontal recovery
* Tether Recovery option with Grapple Beam
* She is very heavy. Combined with great recovery options and lack of a huge target for her weight, Samus is one of the hardest characters to KO.
* Grab has incredible range
* Jab is quick, has a large hitbox, even hitting behind Samus, and clanks with most moves.
* Aerial tether has incredible range, decent stun, and no landing lag. (A technique known as Grapple Canceling or Grapple Boxing)
* Charge shot from a perfect shield block has guaranteed damage.
* Lots of combo options.
* If the situation requires it, the player can transform into Zero Suit Samus by using her up & down taunts.
[edit] Cons:
* Quick, high priority moves have low knockback and damage
* Grab is slow if it misses
* Somewhat sluggish
* Large Target
* Powerful moves are on the slow side, making it hard for Samus to score quick kills
* Slow rolling
* Can be juggled in the air due to being floaty
* A forced change in play style if Final Smash is used.
* Taunting to change into Zero Suit Samus is relatively hard to pull off correctly.
I do like Zero Suit Samus though. <3
AFter lag started slowing down, and we stopped killing ourselves, me and Jackal were having fairly good match.
Until we disconnected.
Which means our relatively good match was like, 10 seconds.
Oh, right, the tournament. :p
Completely forgot about that.
lol it's cool, evastio hasn't signed on yet... and I'm going to the movies soon. If he doesn't sign on, then idk. Maybe tomorrow before I go to work we can get our match in.
but the lag definitely killed me at the beginning of our match lol
and there were times where I pressed shield, and you hit me and I went flying, then he did an air dodge.... yay lag!
THE JACKEL
GO EVASTIO! Nothing personal, JACKAL, because if he loses i'll be going for you instead :p...and Monol, his ivysaur skills are unusually high :shifty:
Lag was destroying us both. Odd, I can connect with most people fine, but my matches with you always seem to lag. :p
Actually, with the lack of other reporting people, you could both move on (or have your round extended) since I'll have to restructure the brackets anyhow.
question, who is T-Rex?
I'm sorry but you people confuse me with your random names.
It's like when I played PSU. I'd know people's main character, and they'd come up to me on an alternate character and say hi, and I had no clue who they were. I had 4 characters on that game, every single one of them was named Jack>el lol
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T-Rex is Evatio.
I think
Yep.
So I was wondering, how many challenges do you guys have left to do? If I told you how many I had left you probably wouldn't believe me at all.
4210-3705-0446
I'm adding everyone's code who is listed in the first post.
Add me too, please!
Me too. After having Marth slaughtered by bosses for weeks I finally managed to defeat Tabuu and them on Intense and get the Galleom Tank Trophy (Counter really helped). I also managed to get the Blue Alloy Trophy yesterday (I did it with Ganondorf last. It took a lot of tries to defeat with him strangely enough). The only Challenge I have left to do is getting all the stickers (weird huh?). I've used a Sticker Factory to try to get them all. So far I have 698 different stickers.
Yeah, I know Boss Battles isn't the funnest of modes (especially on the Harder difficulties when they move so fast and their moves kill you so easily). I guess all I can tell you is that you should stick with a character you're good with and come up with a solid strategy using them (that's what I did for Marth) and remember that you can still complete Boss Battles Challenges on Co-op mode. Or you can do Charizard's Side B repeatedly to the bosses, which supposedly works really well except when I use it.
I got sick of the game before beating classic, all star, 100 man melee, and boss battle with all characters. I honestly don't know what I have left because before this tournament began I hadn't played the game in weeks.
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even though this thread is pretty much dead, :p i'd just like to announce (for my own personal pleasure) that i pre-ordered Brawl today :exdee: :exdee: :exdee:
soon we will be together, my love :bigsmile:
I'll look forward to facing you then.
Also, you main Samus and will probably be using her in Wi-Fi matches right? (secretly plans to use Mr. Game & Watch to use Samus' charged shots against her)
Well, actually I'm not really that good with using his bucket. The only time I do successfully use it is against bosses and when the people I'm facing let me use the bucket on them.
Anyways, on the topic of Samus here is a video of how you shouldn't edgeguard with her.
haha, i believe it is...and i don't get it...it's called 'Samus: How Not To Edge Guard', but she kills him in the end anyway...sooooo wtf?
i mean, sure, she goes about it in a crap way, but it doesn't really matter if you still kill them :p
Yeah but the basic idea still applies: not attacking people if they can't reach the ledge after their third jump.
Personally though I try to go for meteor smashes if possible. I still need some more practice succeeding in pulling them off with certain characters, namely Marth and Luigi.
Its a pretty freakin epic edgeguard non the less O_O
epic indeed...and i get why she sucked now...i didn't realize fox wouldn't have made it back without her attacking him anyway :p
and i'm gettin' pretty good at meteor smashing with luigi :cool:...on melee :(
i'm actually between mains right now, the people i switch between are: Samus and Luigi (mainly), Ness and sometimes Kirby, if i feel like it...but that could all change with brawl :)
are they fairly generic mains? just out of curiosity...
Samus kind of but not in the competitive scene.
Neat choice in floaty canidates ma man but know in brawl those characters play pretty differently (except luigi who somehow just got even better) speaking of which...getting good...with luigis meteor...in melee...?! TOO good sir...too good :)
yeeees, i'm a light, air-bound character fan :p im really looking forward to pit and meta knight (and especially lucas), but because brawl is fairly balanced, im also really looking forward to playing as some of the heavier ones, like dedede and bowser (and snake and ike, if they're classified as heavy) :)
23 days :exdee: then all i have to do is get used to the new feel of my characters before whipping everybody else's collective @ss :D
Keep in mind that although it may be tempting to try to practice using similar characters in Melee to get used to new characters in Brawl (like using Link to get used to using Ike, using Ness to get used to using Lucas, etc.) there'll be no way that you can practice for certain characters. Characters like R.O.B., Lucario, Meta Knight, and King Dedede are much more different than the characters from Melee. My cousin tried to use Jigglypuff to practice to use Meta Knight and he ended up being nothing like he thought he would be (seeing how the knockback of his attacks are lower than anyone else's in Melee yet his comboing potential was much higher). Basically all I'm telling you is that you shouldn't expect to be really good with Brawl's newcomers just because you've practiced with a veteran character from Melee that's similar to them. There's no harm in doing it but they'll still be much more different than you think.
That also applies to the Veterans as well. Although I wouldn't worry about them too much seeing how most of the changes are good (Ice Climbers homing onto the ledge with Belay, Bowser's Fire Breath not shrinking as quickly as it did in Melee, Captain Falcon gaining a little vertical height from hitting someone with his Raptor Boost done in the air, Marth's Sword Dance being easier to perform, etc.).
I feel a bit guilty reading over posts like these. My older brother ordered SSBB from America probably a month ago now, so we've had it for ages (I live in the UK) and, honestly, neither of us are ever on it. So I feel a bit guilty when people are counting the days and saying it's going to be the best game ever when it's sat on the shelf not being used. We got all the characters and never touched it again.
I don't know why we don't play it, though :/
haha, and i feel stupid and doubtful when i read posts like THESE :p i feel like an idiot because i'm saying how good it's going to be and i really have no idea, it's just what i'm hoping for, really...and you're the second person i've heard on this board say that they ditched it after playing it only a little while :( which is about the time i go 'maybe i shouldnt get my hopes up' :tongue:
and Evastio: i know my characters (and the new characters) will have a very different feel...i'm actually on a melee fast right now (so im not even sub-conciously practicing :p) so that brawl will be my sweet relief when it's released :p but yeah, im not the 'practice like my life depends on it' type, so i wouldn't do that even if i was naive enough to believe that i could pick up brawl and pwn with a character i was good with in melee :)
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o.o i don't get it...
My Friend Code has been updated. Now it's "2449-5825-2524".
Roto, I have no Idea where you found those, or if you made them yourself.
But that is more epic then the game itself.
That's quite scary Roto. :sweat:
By the way, I managed to defeat all of the challenges yesterday. The last one I completed was getting all of the stickers. I managed to get the Mario Superstar Baseball sticker (the last one I needed) during a Coin Shooter run.
It was long, grueling, and hard but seeing all of the windows in the challenges section broken and open made it all worth it in the end. :D
Roto that comic is beautiful O_O
Is that the same artist that does the manga "Hellsing" by any chance?
I saw the similarities, too. xP But I don't think so.
I'm still missing like... well over half the accomplishments
Apparently I don't even have all the melee stages, since I haven't gotten the accomplishment that says so. Kinda stinks.
Yeah, well you know how it is, looking at the Challenges Board feeling dissatisfied with all of the unshattered windows on it then wanting to shatter each and every one of them so it looks complete.
Also, I defeated all of the challenges without using a single golden hammer. :D
Two more weeks...
i know :exdee: i've had a countdown in my personal message on msn from when it was still about 60 days off :tongue:
I got a rubbish report card and I kinda need to find a way to get it past my parents so at least I have something to take my mind off the wait...
well i'm in year 12 now, so everything counts, and my report cards are fairly terrible too, not to mention i'm not doing well in my subjects :p every year up until now i could just coast through assessment with minimal effort and come out with B's or A's, but this year and last year it's all C's and B's (with a couple of D's thrown in the mix) :( luckily, brawl comes out just when my holidays are about to start, so i'll have some time to play it without letting school suffer, however, i DO have lots of assessment before then, so i have to try and get it off my mind until it's released :p
You know what really sucks? The fact that the only trophy I'm missing is the Cranky Kong Trophy (Once I got that I'll have all 544 trophies). I actually tried to use the Coin Shooter to get it and went from 9999 Coins to around 1300 and I still didn't get it. I swear Cranky's trying to avoid me on purpose. Once you think about it it's quite ironic seeing how Wrinkly Kong (Cranky's wife) is the very first trophy you start with.
Yeah, I'm the kind of person that likes to try to get 100% in games I really like. Especially when I'm so close to completing everything already.
I'm kinda worried my lens is gonna be dirty and the dual layered disc won't work.....
Stupid Question how do you know what your friend code is. Trying to get internet for the Wii. I play as Captain Falcon, Ike, Mario, and Sonic
For any of you playing with a freeloader, don't do a system update. It kills Freeloader compatibility.
Who knows about the dual layered disc problem? whats the probability it will happen to me?
It depends on how old your Wii is. The earlier runs from around the time it came out have a higher chance of running into the problem. Nintendo offers a free repair program, though, if you run into trouble with it.
Go on to Nintendo WFC with Brawl, then With Friends and into Friends Roster. It's right in there.
I got mine april last year, is that old?
It has a lot more to do with whether or not your Wii is surrounded by dust and cigarettes.
It's kinda dusty but it has never been any where near cigarrete smoke.
It should be okay then.
I still don't have my Cranky Kong trophy, even after going through one long coin shooter match where I went from 9999 coins to 0 coins. :(
And the dojo said that the longer you go coin shooting the better the chance you have of getting new trophies...
:hyper: one week :hyper:
One mother flippin' week!
:exdee: :exdee: :exdee: one.....mother.....smurfing......day :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
Tomorrow... finally...
y-y;
To celebrate Europe finally getting Brawl I'll post a Falcon Punch Commercial for the fun of it. :D
Holy crap Falcon's mask came off. I never watched very far into that lame anime.
Congrats, Europe.
I'll be wanting to hear who your mains are when you guys get Brawl.
Mine are Marth, the Ice Climbers, and R.O.B.
So? Did anyone buy it? xP
ME! ME! I BOUGHT IT! :p it's in my wii as we speak :exdee: :exdee: not sure of a main yet, just tryin' out the emissary...i dont think there are words to express my current excitement :p
oh, and i have my friend code already, i'll have to add all of yours later, but if you want mine now (of course you do! :D) here it is:
1375-8634-8811
Still one more day for Europe D: for some reason Australia got it a day before us
So, whould you europeans want the tournament to be in 2 weeks, or would you rather it be a month so you have time to catch up with us superior American Gamers. :cool: