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Any last words before our host comes to kill you?
Oh Sam.
Why would scum kill you if all you are to them is someone who tracks a killer? You look suspicious and you even admitted this yourself.
This early on, scum will go for people who are either lying low as to not make any connections to them, or people that debate with another innocent person to make that person look bad if the other is killed and comes up as pro-town. If they keep you in and you are in fact a third party, it's pretty easy to try pin more things on you. You know you're safe, come on now. You would not role claim this early if you thought otherwise.
Why would you claim at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Samuel L Jackson
Furthermore, how can anyone ever support a D1 massclaim?
You're a bad guy. I'm a misunderstood good guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jason Statham
I claimed Vigilante because it was convenient (thank you Arnie baby for the idea :aimkiss:) to see if anyone would bite. You did, I guess, which was a little disappointing. It's like fishing for barra and hooking a catfish. Blech. Anyway, you're not a Vigilante, not even a One-Shot (which would have to be the type of Vig in this game for it to stay balanced), so that gambit didn't pay off. Then I decided to leave cryptic (read: obvious) clues to my role to see what happened. Most people were just confused, which was really disappointing. A couple of people clued on though, and I'm super proud of Sigourney Weaver for almost nailing it right from the get go. But mostly you all just flailed around like puppets on my strings and forgot that Bruce Willis was under heat for something stupid and Clint Eastwood was the focus before all that and then Arnold Schwarzenegger looked sour but I think he's just too green.
You caught up now? :D
troutty flaunting as final words?
1. For Fun. 2. For GAMBITS (see previous post)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas CageWhy would you claim at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Samuel L Jackson
Furthermore, how can anyone ever support a D1 massclaim?
Everyone roleclaiming makes it easy by association to figure out who's full of trout. We can't all be vanilla :)
I've not seen our host for ages actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma Thurman
And I just praised you! I CURE, not track. smurf me. Please go read the role flash again, everyone. This is embarrassing! :shobon: Also the mafia won't kill me (I know I said they would, but see, that was all apart of the flamboyant act to make them unsure as to whether I know more than I am letting on), but the Psychopath will. Well, I guess not any more. But oh well! Happy hunting!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
I go to seek a Great Perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma Thurman
I just got back and need to check over the thread. Otherwise I'm good.
I have killed Samuel L. Jackson, because Trix are for kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Teddy Roosevelt
Seriously, all of you guys
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Yall are being CRAZY! The craziest of you all is Samuel but that is absolutely forgiven and I obey the pink hair. I still believe that there is a jester thing out there and the ones piping up all the attention are most likely to be it. For now I'm going to vote for one of the non-whacky acting players. By whacky acting I mean: Statham, Jackson, Willis, and Segal. :love:
Lots of love:
##Vote Liam
It's unfortunate that you only have curing powers instead of tracking as that doesn't help me. Thanks anyway I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Samuel L JacksonAnd I just praised you! I CURE, not track. smurf me. Please go read the role flash again, everyone. This is embarrassing! :shobon: Also the mafia won't kill me (I know I said they would, but see, that was all apart of the flamboyant act to make them unsure as to whether I know more than I am letting on), but the Psychopath will. Well, I guess not any more. But oh well! Happy hunting!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
A part of me hopes you die, Sam, to put you out of your misery but a part of me hopes you live because this laughably the most frustrated you've ever been. :lol:
.....okay im back
Ive read through but i need a few to get my head around this. This is getting crazy.
Frustrated is not quite the right word for it. I hope I die now though, because holy smurfing trout daykills are the best thing ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
Also just in case I don't make it, I better unload all cylinders.
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Jackie Chan? Sean Connery?
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My feelings toward this thread:
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Also, here's my advice for how to spot mafia members:
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It'll be a mothersmurfing miracle if Sam Jackson doesn't haunt my dreams tonight. smurfing babies.
Alright, let me know what happens, I got a train to catch.
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I think Sam is taking over everything now.
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What I don't get is why you want to die so bad this early on. I mean signs do point to Jester, but whatever I guess. If the game can keep going that doesn't matter.
This day needs to end so I can watch The Walking Dead Season Finale that everyone spoiled already.
Oh my god that actually scared me, I wasn't expecting it. :eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Clint Eastwood
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Let's do this!
No need for that maybe my dear sam. I'm definitely on that list~Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Samuel L Jackson
And Uma Thurman and Jackson have definitely stolen the show here.
I have no words right now. I just want to know if that daykill of uma thurman was legit or if it was just yet another on a long list of obnoxious daykill jokes.
And Jackson is just going all out with those gifs. My monitor.. it bleeds.
How many hours left in the day?
I'm holding fire until Teddy comes on and says if it's legit. I'm in a state of limbo, waiting to do something :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Daniel CraigNo need for that maybe my dear sam. I'm definitely on that list~Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Samuel L Jackson
And Uma Thurman and Jackson have definitely stolen the show here.
I have no words right now. I just want to know if that daykill of uma thurman was legit or if it was just yet another on a long list of obnoxious daykill jokes.
And Jackson is just going all out with those gifs. My monitor.. it bleeds.
How many hours left in the day?
Oh hey, bus wi fi. Too many images for it to work properly though. Which asshole did that? :P
Let me shed some light Sigourney. My biggest influence when it comes to mafia is Mogi/Jessweeee in the Fruit Basket game. Peach is my soul.
Sorry for not being here all day, I need some time to read through the thread, but just a quick skim through reveals a lot has happened today.
I guess it's been long enough to be able to assume that the Uma daykill was fake.
So you lied. And I didn't bite. I didn't even believe you! Still don't! I'd love to give you the benefit of the doubt since we're still on the first day and you started off ok, but your posts are so full of lies and traps and confusion that I just can't ignore it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Samuel L Jackson
Why am I a bad guy again?
Would have been mightily helpful if the mod came to tell us that wouldn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger
Mod never showed up to say the other fakes were fakes, so I assumed we have to figure that out on our own. If they're not confirmed, they're fake, basically. But wuddaeyeno
A vote tally would be very nice soon too.
I think I have the most votes but I'm not sure. Also I'd proceed as if the day kills were all fake and not waste time waiting. Especially if you are someone coming in late in the day. There's a lot of other stuff you can comment on.
Sorry, was arguing with a pizza delivery lady. I'll have some comments to make soon.
Coming right up. It was about time as well actually what with all the chaos. I THINK this is as correct as it can be, if there are mistakes, they're going to be minor ones, at best.. there's been so many bloody voting. If there is a mistake, feel free to point it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Will Smith
Day One
8 for absolute majority
0 [M] Clint Eastwood :Steven Seagal
0 [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger :Samuel L. Jackson,Daniel Craig,Nicolas Cage
3 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman,Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger
1 [M] Bruce Willis :Arnold Schwarzenegger,Jason Statham,Dwayne Johnson, Sigourney Weaver
1 [M] Liam Neeson :Jason Statham, Will Smith
0 [M] Will Smith :Jason Statham
0 [M] Nicolas Cage :Jason Statham
1 [M] Samuel L. Jackson : Jason Statham,Uma Thurman,Arnold Schwarzenegger
4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver, Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : Liam Neeson
Abstains
Bruce Willis
Clint Eastwood
Missing my second vote there, it's on Statham.
Sorry, forgot you had another vote!
One thing I cannot get off of my head is Uma Thurmans deadset aggression on Samuel L Jackson
There has been little in terms of reason in her more recent posts. Mostly just outright rage and even death threats.
I mean sure he can be annoying, but I don't think it's worth just a narrow sighted attack on the guy.
This no editing rule kills me sometimes. All I want to do is edit a sentence that got its flow ruined by my crappy word choice :(
I know I edited my vote tally, but it's just a vote tally. I think I'm allowed to edit that for a mistake, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Daniel Craig
Bitches be crazy.
Heh, votes are a lot more scattered than originally thought. Especially that Sammy on has one vote.
WHERE DID THE "LY" IN ONLY GO?
Not sure what you're getting at Craig. Are you sure you read the whole thing? Her current vote is for Statham. The Jackson thing was a ruse, or better yet, just for fun. And her current vote is entirely reasonable. I too think Statham might be mafia. As do you it seems.
Now if only we could lynch 2/3 mafia members day1, it'd be great! Because I think Seagal's mafia too. Neither of the guys leading for lynch right now are trying to defend themselves. Wouldn't this happen in a scenario where both are mafia and they're screwed either way and being quiet is kind of the only way to save their teammate?
Alright, I don't want to wait for the last minute for this and it will probably be the nail on the coffin for me anyway (you'll see why), but it doesn't really benefit me to keep this to myself. I am....the Aspiring Leading Man. Each day I "audition" for roles (doesn't say roles in this game, just roles). In order to "get" the role I have to "perform" well by switching my votes at least three times. I did this on Day 0 but there was no Night 0. On Day 1 I wasn't sure I'd be around that much so I tried to get it out of the way early, but stupidly didn't read that there had to be at least one post between each of my "performances" (he called them "intermission"). So I had to do it again.
However, I stand by every vote I made and I stated my reasoning for them. Sure, they were swapped rapidly, but those are the people I thought deserved attention.
I'd love to share my night actions but there have been no freaking nights. I wanted at least once chance to use it. :cry: It's so dumb but so awesome.
My hope is that all the roles in the game have a twist like this and so you'll belive me. If not, then all I ask before you take me out is to consider who is running this game. I know this sounds lame as smurf but I'm not lying. I really do think Sam Jackson is the bad guy trying to use me as some kind of bait and switch. =/ In the end, I spent way too much time in this game so no hard feelings if I go today. If there's anything I can do to help the town on my way out, let me know.
Oh, and the role text was rainbow color since I guess it's a Jack-of-all trades thing. I was just too lazy to make it that color.
What's your "reward" at night for the vote switching? You get to live?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jason Statham
The aspiring leading man? Seriously? You're not Balthier are you? Either way, if this is true, this is smurfing fabulous. Sounds like something Laddy would do to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jason Statham
No it doesn't, it smells like desperation bulltrout, but it's still funny as hell. lol
This has been a very strange Day One, I think it's safe to say.
And seriously, where's the mod and our time check? I feel like the days gone on forever.
This is the main part I don't buy. It doesn't fit in the description of the role well at all and just feels thrown in there for the sake of it.Quote:
In order to "get" the role I have to "perform" well by switching my votes at least three times.
Roleclaim all you want Steakface, I'm not changing my vote now.
On a cell so this isn't organized. When I get the part I assume that role for the next day. So I assume doctor or whatever. It sound dumb but don't blame me I didn't make this trout up.
Oh GOD. Anyway, about 1 hour an 45 minutes left.
Vote Count
0 [M] Clint Eastwood :Steven Seagal
0 [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger :Samuel L. Jackson, Daniel Craig, Nicolas Cage
3 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman, Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger
1 [M] Bruce Willis :Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jason Statham, Dwayne Johnson,Sigourney Weaver
1 [M] Liam Neeson :Jason Statham, Will Smith
0 [M] Will Smith :Jason Statham
0 [M] Nicolas Cage :Jason Statham
1 [M] Samuel L. Jackson : Jason Statham,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver, Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : Liam Neeson
I guess I have not voted yet. One, two skip a few 99 your it!
##Vote....Ummm....umm.....Uma Thurman
Like because. No real reason. Day one nonsense.
Umm....Teddy. Why does Arnold have 3 votes? 2 for Statham and 1 for Seagal.
Whoops. Fixed.
So.. wait. You get given a role from Teddy, let's assume for example "Doctor". And then to actually get given that role for the next day, you then have to jump through hoops by switching votes three times. If you pass, then you get that role for the next day. I will assume that you are given that role for use during that day only, so you could use the next day but not the day after that, when Teddy offers you a new role to go for (e.g cop). I guess it, in a round about way, makes some sense. It's sort of the tasks Teddy sets you make it appear scummy (like vote switching like mad).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jason Statham
Of course, using that same logic, if this is a clever role-claim, then that's very convenient for you then. You could say that you appear scummy because you simply had to damnit! It's definitely a good cover story for any scummy behavior you've exhibited.
It's definitely odd, but then it's Laddy's game, and to be honest sounds like some clever mindsmurf role he could throw up. He already pulled a trick on the Day 0 stunt, a very whacky role doesn't quite faze me as it would. Still, I'd like to hear the others opinions on this.
84 minutes.
Vote Count
0 [M] Clint Eastwood :Steven Seagal
0 [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger :Samuel L. Jackson, Daniel Craig, Nicolas Cage
3 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman, Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger
1 [M] Bruce Willis :Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jason Statham, Dwayne Johnson,Sigourney Weaver
1 [M] Liam Neeson :Jason Statham, Will Smith
0 [M] Will Smith :Jason Statham
0 [M] Nicolas Cage :Jason Statham
1 [M] Samuel L. Jackson : Jason Statham,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver, Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : Liam Neeson
1 [M] Uma Thurman : Clint Eastwood
Way to join the party late again Eastwood. Where have you been?
Also, I don't buy into Stathams roleclaim. It just doesn't feel right for reasons I explained, and this early on I need to go with my gut.
It just seems too convoluted and parts of it just feel tacked on to explain his actions.
I don't really have a ton of input on this. I have not played this in years now and the last game I played ended spectacularly http://home.eyesonff.com/mafia/11602...-hero-3-a.html Laddy was the worst Cop ever! This could very well be true given what people are saying about past game and what happened today. It would be an inventive role and one that you can really only take advantage of early on like Day 1. Given Laddy, it wouldn't surprise me that he kind of screwed him over on the Day 0/1 thing thus having to have him switch votes another 3 times. If it is true then two good ideas collided together which is unfortunate.
Like I said earlier, I use to play crazy like Statham and it rarely worked out well for me. Usually I was gone by day 1 or 2 regardless of my role. People just don't like that and view it as suspicious so I can't really say that I am surprised by all of the votes going his way. That seems fairly typical from my remembrance all those many ages ago. I don't really blame people for feeling that way, it is just that my own personal experience gives me a different perspective.
Uma Thurman, you have failed me again. On the upside, one of the two night kills is coming my way as opposed to the doc, cop or other town power role. Mission accomplished. It's been real kids. See you on the flip side.
I do agree with you Daniel, but so far the thread's rather dead. It's basically us two at the moment. I'd love to hear more from others about this, so for now, I'm just leaving it for now.
What I find more interesting is the incredibly large spread of votes we've seen. Seriously. Look at them. What happened to the cohesive town? We've got a split mainly between Steakham and Seagull, and both of them have been suspicious. Seagull in particular just simply hasn't turned up today. But then we have the "one-voters" that are drawing votes away.
Holy trout you all spammed this thread today. I am still at work and on break, so I have time for this one post.
I don't believe Jason's roleclaim. Also I would prefer not to die.
##Vote: Jason Statham
that's sure convenient.
Yeah, I'm finding that out the hard way. I tried to switch up my game and be a little more active early on, going this way and that, and it really came back to bite me. Plus my role kind of dictated I play it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Clint Eastwood
I'm really strongly against Sam Jackson still and even if there's not enough time to switch votes to him, I will say keep an eye on him in this game. I don't buy anything he said and I don't buy the whole "I'm gonna die" bulltrout.
Still can't believe you guys are going to lynch someone for being active and voting a lot over someone who 1. Lied about his role, 2. Started planting seeds of multiple killing factions, 3. In general tried to take over the game and lead people on, all on Day 1.
54 minutes.
Vote Count
0 [M] Clint Eastwood :Steven Seagal
0 [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger :Samuel L. Jackson, Daniel Craig, Nicolas Cage
3 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman, Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger
1 [M] Bruce Willis :Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jason Statham, Dwayne Johnson,Sigourney Weaver
1 [M] Liam Neeson :Jason Statham, Will Smith
0 [M] Will Smith :Jason Statham
0 [M] Nicolas Cage :Jason Statham
1 [M] Samuel L. Jackson : Jason Statham,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
5 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver, Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Seagal
1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : Liam Neeson
1 [M] Uma Thurman : Clint Eastwood
Not an unreasonable argument against Jackson, but we'll see whether that's true or not later when you're unmasked. When you turn up scum that means Jackson's probably innocent which would make it even more likely that Seagal's your accomplice.
So, are we bandwagon voting for Statham? On Day 1?! Oh come on people. We can do better than that. :colbert:
##Vote: Steven Seagal
45 minutes.
Vote Count
0 [M] Clint Eastwood :Steven Seagal
0 [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger :Samuel L. Jackson, Daniel Craig, Nicolas Cage
4 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman, Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone
1 [M] Bruce Willis :Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jason Statham, Dwayne Johnson,Sigourney Weaver
1 [M] Liam Neeson :Jason Statham, Will Smith
0 [M] Will Smith :Jason Statham
0 [M] Nicolas Cage :Jason Statham
1 [M] Samuel L. Jackson : Jason Statham,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
5 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver, Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Seagal
1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : Liam Neeson
1 [M] Uma Thurman : Clint Eastwood
##unvote: Statham
##vote: Seagal
I'll bite.
Well trout, now it's a tie.
Just 30 minutes left. :excited:
0 [M] Clint Eastwood :Steven Seagal
0 [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger :Samuel L. Jackson, Daniel Craig, Nicolas Cage
5 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman, Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Uma Thurman
1 [M] Bruce Willis :Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jason Statham, Dwayne Johnson,Sigourney Weaver
1 [M] Liam Neeson :Jason Statham, Will Smith
0 [M] Will Smith :Jason Statham
0 [M] Nicolas Cage :Jason Statham
1 [M] Samuel L. Jackson : Jason Statham,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Seagal
1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : Liam Neeson
1 [M] Uma Thurman : Clint Eastwood[/QUOTE]
No it definitely is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
Wait, Teddy I think you counted wrong. I only see 5 votes on seagull.
My first gut was Seagal, my second gut was Statham. I'll stick with my first gut.
My gut says both, so I'm happy either way.
Good.
He only has 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Daniel Craig
Seagal just comes in and bandwagon votes after being so boisterious Day 0. That just makes you look terrific.
According to the vote count, Uma and Arnold have very similar voting patterns. Whenever it appears someone is on the chopping block, they go and vote for that person. They've done that a total of three times now.
Just to be clear here, I didn't bandwagon this, look back at when I voted. Might even say I started this. I thought both Seagal and Statham were mafia at the beginning of the day, and I think they are now, and my votes haven't moved a single time today. If you're referring to the Jackson vote, go back and look at the post, it was clearly a joke.
You had the number 6 next to him at first. That's why I commented.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Teddy RooseveltHe only has 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Daniel Craig
I was one of the first people to vote for Seagal today. I changed it later on, then I changed it back. I don't see it like that at all. I've had Seagal on my target list since my first post today (not mentioning my first first post which was 'brb reading posts').Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
9 minutes.
Well, for good reason. Seagal is highly suspicious.
###Unvote: Bruce Willis
###Vote: Steven Seagal
Seagal comment? You have yet to say much of anything today. Statham has his odd role claim, where your's?
Day over. Flavor coming.
Oh goddamnit I was just about to change my vote to Statham after reading over his claim again. Oh well, bye I guess.
"So, Steven Seagal, anything you have to say for yourself?" Mr. Seagal was surrounded. He had nowhere to turn. He knew who he was. They all did. He had nothing left to do. He was sick, and he would die before anyone told him as such.
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"Well, looks like this is the end, All Praise to Xenu!" said Seagal, swallowing a cyanide capsule and burning his insides.
[M] Steven Seagal was the Psychopath with the lowest body count ever played by qwertysaur. Inefficient! Anyway, thanks for playing!
Night actions begin now and will last 12 hours.
Day 2! Everyone slept snugly in their nice little beds. What, you thought someone would be dead?
Day 2 starts now, and will end in 24 hours. Also, we have two new mystery players. Say hi new players!
OK, "thinking out loud" so that if my underlying assumptions are bulltrout someone can point it out.
OK, so Seagal's flip makes Sammy all but confirmed town at this point. The scum knew this too, and would have shot him. Docs can't self-protect, so we have a regular doc or something that can act as a doc (like a JK) as well.
The chances of a 2nd mafia or another nightkill-enabled thir party are also pretty slim unless Sammy protected against the NK that wasn't targeting him, the second kill was roleblocked, or both NKs targeted him.
Since we are up to 16 players, we pretty much have to have 4 scum unless this game his incredibly mountainous, which means my prior hypothesis about post-start additions being confTown is shot. At least one of the new additions pretty much has to be scum.
Am I missing anything?
Wait... no-one died? Are the Mafia sleeping on the job or something then or what?
Edit by way of post : by "new additions" I'm not referring to our two mystery players, but everyone added after gamestart.
I'm one of those two new players. Hello everyone.
@Jet Li: You may have that new car smell, but I have one thing you'll never have.
Range.
Here is the final votecount.
6 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman, Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Uma Thurman, Sigourney Weaver
4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Seagal
1 [M] Liam Neeson :Jason Statham, Will Smith
1 [M] Samuel L. Jackson : Jason Statham,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger
1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : Liam Neeson
1 [M] Uma Thurman : Clint Eastwood
0 [M] Will Smith :Jason Statham
0 [M] Nicolas Cage :Jason Statham
0 [M] Clint Eastwood :Steven Seagal
0 [M] Bruce Willis :Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jason Statham, Dwayne Johnson, Sigourney Weaver
0 [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger :Samuel L. Jackson, Daniel Craig, Nicolas Cage
He says don't go for inactives and late additions. No, it does not mean they are Vanilla. Which also means don't trust these two new people either. :kakapo:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Steven Seagal
He was obviously protecting Vin Diesel.
And with that said, definitely don't rule out that there may be more than one psychopath as it doesn't say serial killer so we don't know the exacts of the role. Maybe Sammy J. can shed some light on that. :aimkiss:
I would like to point out there was a bandwagon on Seagal. The mafia (or anybody) had any way of knowing that he was the psychopath, but the mafia did know one thing. That Seagal was not part of the mafia.
Day 1
8 for absolute majority
5 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman,Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Uma Thurman
4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Seagal
1 [M] Bruce Willis :Arnold Schwarzenegger,Jason Statham,Dwayne Johnson, Sigourney Weaver
1 [M] Samuel L. Jackson : Jason Statham,Uma Thurman,Arnold Schwarzenegger
2 [M] Dwayne Johnson : Liam Neeson, Bruce Willis
1 [M] Uma Thurman : Clint Eastwood
1 [M] Liam Neeson :Jason Statham, Will Smith
0 [M] Will Smith :Jason Statham
0 [M] Nicolas Cage :Jason Statham
0 [M] Clint Eastwood :Steven Seagal
0 [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger :Samuel L. Jackson,Daniel Craig,Nicolas Cage
Abstained
Absolutely No-one!
Received No Direct Votes
Sigourney Weaver
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Daniel Craig
Will Smith
Clint Eastwood
Nicolas Cage
Result
[M] Steven Seagal | The Psychopath is lynched
I did not abstain yesterday, I voted for Dwayne. :redface:
Huh, since when was this a rule? I have been under the impression that docs could self protect since the dawn of Mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas Cage
I'm glad you picked up on that as well, Liam old chum. I thought my memory was failing me badly there. As far as I know Docs can self protect all game if they choose to do so!
According to those Mafia flash things it says about Docs protecting themselves.
"Generally, the Doctor can not protect himself. Also, if the player is targeted by more than one killer, that player still dies, although some Moderators dispute this rule."
I'm pretty sure as far as EoFF games go the Doc has always been able to self protect. I could be wrong, mind you, but I'm fairly certain that's the case.
I've always had the assumption that Doctors could self-protect. Seeing how Samuel is probably now a transformed doctor from his psychiatrist role, it's conceivable that he protected himself.
I has been quite a long time.
I looked through the archive and found a couple of times already where you would appear to be correct. I am sure if I looked at more, then I would find more
http://home.eyesonff.com/mafia/11602...ml#post2464624
http://home.eyesonff.com/mafia/14662...ml#post3171184
http://home.eyesonff.com/mafia/13828...ml#post3015968
Also, looking through these old threads with these same faces is weird!
Dayum no body died? That's awesome but it makes me wonder if there is a doctor involved or mafia smurfing with out heads.
Dwayne I posted the final votecount a couple posts before you did. Also yours has another error. Sigourney switched her vote to Seagal right at the end.
I'll let Jet Li do the postcounts from now on.
Careful though, you might be called scum for doing so. :p
Speculating about why there was no nightkill is not going to help us at all, for two reasons.
1. Only the mafia know who the intended kill was for the night.
2. There are multiple reasons for why a kill can fail to happen. While doctor is the obvious one, there are other roles, like roleblocker, hider, and commuter that can lead to the same result.
Lets focus on what we do know, not what we don't.
Hmm... I don't imagine that our glorious moderator will tell us whether doctors can self-protect or not. Still, it is certainly a comment to keep in mind as the game progresses. :p
So. no night kill. Many possibilities as to why (doctor, roleblocker, bulletproof, etc) but there's not much point in mulling over the why's for the moment. It could be anything, from what we know at the moment.
From what happened on D1, I am inclined to believe Sam L's town alignment. He was right about there being a psycho out there, and that's a pretty crazy specific thing to guess. Good show, sir.
Statham's role claim is crazy. I'm almost inclined to believe it because it's just so... out-there. Of course, since the claim has been made, he has to keep up the charade (?)! Whenever you get here, Mr Statham how did your role play out last night? What role did you choose? What did you do with these newfound skills?
Ohhh Mr Rock, no need to be so passive aggressive. We didn't think you were scummy just because you posted vote tallies. ;)
Also because it was ignored the first time I'll say this again.
This is a textbook bandwagon.Quote:
6 Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman,Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Uma Thurman, Sigourney Weaver
I'm curious about the very sudden vote changes from Steakham to Seagull. Drawing up Jet Li's vastly more accurate votecount...
6 [M] Steven Seagal :Uma Thurman, Jason Statham, Nicolas Cage,Sigourney Weaver, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Uma Thurman, Sigourney Weaver
4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson,Sigourney Weaver,Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Seagal
Based on this, the last two or so people to vote for Seagal was Thurman and Weaver. Both of these previously voted for Statham, and switched votes decidedly late in the day. The reasons they gave for such a switch was hardly detailed. Weaver's change occurred like, 9 minutes before the day ended, which ended the tie.
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Originally Posted by Weaver
Thurman's comment in particular isn't exactly helpful. I find it curious that Statham's lynch was all but decided, but in the last hour of play, BOTH girls switch votes to Seagal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thurman
Comments? Thoughts?
I don't like how Sigourney demanded a roleclaim from Seagal minutes before the lynch. I will concede that she mentions her intention was to change it to Jason, but it was too little too late.
Roleclaiming, especially with power roles should be done with restraint, because it will end up helping the mafia more than the town in the long run. Like I mentioned how the mafia knew that Seagal was not part of the mafia, mafia members know who their teammates are, and thus by extension they know who is not in the mafia, ie: the town.
Town members very rarely will lie about their roleclaim, so the mafia can safely assume that the roleclaim is true. we can't though, because we don't have that crucial piece of information.
Finally the more the mafia know about the overall setup, they will be able to make their fake roleclaims more convincing.
This is a nice post to pick apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney WeaverHe says don't go for inactives and late additions. No, it does not mean they are Vanilla. Which also means don't trust these two new people either. :kakapo:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Steven Seagal
He was obviously protecting Vin Diesel.
And with that said, definitely don't rule out that there may be more than one psychopath as it doesn't say serial killer so we don't know the exacts of the role. Maybe Sammy J. can shed some light on that. :aimkiss:
Seagal never said don't go after inactives. he said that the town should focus more on people who are active. There is a subtle difference between the two.
The next part is that nice contradiction. Sigourney points out that Seagal said not to assume that late additions are vanilla. Then goes on to say that Seagal was "obviously" protecting Vin Diesel.
There is no real way to say this politely without it losing it's impact. You are dead wrong. Seagal flipped Psychopath. That's a third party role who wants to kill everyone else, not protect them. Also how is saying that someone is not cleared of suspicion protecting them? Seagal was saying that late introductions should be suspected.
Final point. The possibility of multiple Psychopaths. I highly doubt that there would be more than one psychopath. That would mean a possible three kills in a single night, all from roles that are not town. That is a huge amount for a game of this size and throws out any possibility of balance. Seagal was the only psychopath.
You are trying to get the town to go after a red herring instead of focusing on finding the actual mafia.
##Vote: Sigourney Weaver
I switched my vote to Seagal because Seagal was already the first on my list a suspicious people. It isn't bandwagon voting when I was the first person to call him on his bulltrout. Nice try though baddy. ;)
It was a toss up between Statham and Seagal, which one was more of a threat. Seagal was more convincing and therefore more of a threat. With Seagal out of the way I can now turn my attention back to another obvious bulltroutter.
Jason Statham :aimkiss:
I must admit you had me fooled at first. Your role is highly nonsensical. You can switch your roles if you switch your votes? Is that what you're saying? So pray tell, what role did you switch to last night. Answer wisely because I will know you are lying depending on how you answer.
So say you are right Jet Li, Seagal was the only third party. Then you are absolutely correct that nothing he said actually matters but I still wouldn't rule out that he was acting alone.
I also read that post wrong, Seagal did actually say don't assume late additions aren't vanilla, you are correct. I am reading these posts fast from my phone. I got things to do. When I get on a computer I can read over again and better access where to go from there.
I've never seen a game where a doc could self-protect, since if they can they'd obviously use their protect on the only person they could be certain was town -- themselves. A self-protect-capable doctor is essentially a neutrealised doctor as far as the rest of the town is concerned.
EBWOP: Of course, if docs can self-protect this game, then we need Sammy doing just that so we can keep a semi-confirmed townie until lylo or the last of the scum is lynched.
1 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li
16 hours 20 minutes left.
Woah I never said that everything Seagal said doesn't matter. Seagal was third party, he wanted everyone dead. That does include the mafia, so naturally he would want them dead just as much as the actual town. And Serial Killers act alone. It's the nature of their role.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
I've seen various stipulations on doctor protection. Some say the doctor can't protect the same person twice in a row. Some say no self protection. And others have no limits at all. Variations on roles is at the discretion of the host.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas Cage
And a self protect capable doctor is by no means neutralized. While he/she can only protect him/herself and essentaily be night kill immune, self protection can also be used to help ensure nightkills are avoided until the doctor can find another power role like the cop.
I'm still thinking that it's more likely that we have a reg doc who protected Sammy. Look at his posts yesterday, he thought he was going to die. If he thought he could self-protect and had the intention to do so, he wouldn't have been so sure.
It's not impossible that Sam self-protected any more than it's impossible that he's scum who made a ridiculously unlikely correct guess about the existence of a psychopath, but occam's razor suggests that neither is the case.
One way to clear it up:
@Sam: Who did you target last night?
Everyone else: If you disbelieve Sammy's answer, you're mad. Luckily we have a shrink in this game.
Unless he was just bluffing that he was going to die to try and fool the Mafia into thinking he was defenceless. Just a thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas Cage
And I have to agree with Jet Li on Weaver. I never really thought much of her during Day 0 and during the first half of Day 1, but her more recent actions piqued my attention, particularly with the last-minute role switch and Jet Li's autopsy of one her posts.
This vote might change based on who I'm more sure about is scum, but definitely for now:
##VOTE: Sigourney Weaver
It is often a stipulation of specialist doctor roles (such as the psychiatrist or w/e) that they do not have protective function until their opposite is caught (in this case the psychopath).
So at the time of his acceptance of death, Sam had no knowledge that the first lynch would be the psycho, and he wouldn't have had the ability to protect anyone. I'm not saying that he definitely protected himself or anything, I mean, we don't know who the mafia targeted. It may not have even been Sammy L.
This is a silly line of discussion, too many unknown factors. :p
I am curious about Sigourney's idea that there could be multiple psychopaths working together. Where did this line of thought come from?
A lot to think about.
Anyway, looks like our third party killer is gone, so I don't think we'll be seeing multiple deaths on occassions, but it's still possible that we might have a vig, especially one with a trigger happy finger. It's doubtful, but still possible.
Ok, on a computer. I got that theory from Cult Mafia where they could recruit people. Maybe I am over thinking, and it is more likely there is just one psychopath, but I refuse to rule out anything this early in the game until I have confirmation.
The only confirmation I have in this game so far is that I'm Town, Seagal was bad as I thought, and that Jason is also bad. Bad people go for good people, and I know I am good. Bad people go for good people Jet, which now makes you on my list of bad people. ;)
You could very well be a good person who admittedly saw the flawed logic in my mispost, but you failed to see the rest the of my posts detailing the reasons why I voted for Seagal, and now why I am gun ho on Statham based on his shoddy role claim from yesterday. So either you are a horrible towner, or more likely, Mafia.
Sammy J. said killer, he did not specify what the stipulations were to the killer type role or even if he knows the stipulations, so I will wait to hear. If Seagal is in fact the only one, then time is being wasted discussing him and most of what he said really doesn't matter as he wouldn't know who is Town and who is Mafia, and has no allegiance to either.
Sam has curing powers he says, but that doesn't mean he can cure himself. He can only cure the serial killer/psychopath if we're going by the flash. But yes, he could have been bluffing as it's weird to role claim and put yourself out there so early in the game. Either way no one died last night, so we know we have the upper hand today. He doesn't have to confirm the curing stipulations to his role and shouldn't. I do want answers about the psychopath because he didn't say yesterday that it was that role. Give me all the easy answers, thanks.
Ofcourse I don't want seemingly non-suspicious people with roles that can help Town to role claim. Are you mad Jet Li? I knew Seagal was suspicious which is why I waiting to hear his defense and seeing if it would be more or less convincing than Statham's. If someone is suspicious often times whatever defense/role claim they have will pin point their bull.
Vote for me if you want. It would be a dumb move for Town. But I can die, and I assure you everything that I say will matter. ;)
Time is being wasted on lynching Jason Statham, high on my suspicious list. :aimkiss:
I also find suspicious
Anyone under the radar
Brucey Willis
Will Smith
Nicolas Cage - now out of the woodwork
Dwanye I don't trust you either because your vote tallying and appearing to be helpful to Town with minimal effort is exactly what Seagal was doing, and exactly what Statham is doing. That vote tallying thing was done before and the person came up red. You'd think that after that people would stop trying that.
Oh almost forgot,
#Vote: Jason Statham
In my regular account. Deal.
2 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson
1 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver
Excuse me? It's ridiculous thinking that someone who is eager to help anyway their can is suspicious. Would you rather me not help at all? I could do a Bruce Willis and spout nonsense if you like. And helping out is hard. I can't vote analyse like the rest of you guys can. I am trying to help, but I can't do a forensic examination of posts, I'm just not good enough to do that. All I can do is give generalised comments and sort of "point" people in the right direction. I pointed out the late day actions of Weaver and Thurman which grabbed my attention, and Jet Li noticed and ripped one of Weaver's posts to shreds.
This is my second game of Mafia, ever. I thought doing vote tallies was just the done thing, no?Quote:
You'd think that after that people would stop trying that
Pin pointing and analyzing is really the only thing that would be helpful to town, not vote tallying. Isn't that the mod's job anyway?
It really should be only the host doing vote tallies, since his alignment is known to be neutral and a simple mathematical error won't be interpreted as a scumtell.
Whelp, sorry then. :(
It doesn't bother me, you're the one risking getting pegged as scum, erroneously or otherwise.
Stop helping the rookie.
Forgot to mention Vin Diesel, who is also on my suspicious list, is grossly under the radar.
Gurl why are you hating on me? I also do not believe your role call or anyone's for that matter.
##Vote Story Book Weaver
My problem with you Will, aside from the fact that you're not inside me, is that you don't actually do anything aside from vote. You just posts things like this. How is Town going to win when only a few people want to do their homework? :lol:
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Originally Posted by [M] Will Smith
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Originally Posted by [M] Will Smith
And I did not role call. I don't even know what that is unless you mean role claim...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...141xo1_250.gif
Oh crap, that reminds me! I need to do a Day two log or do a huge long post suggesting that all of your are scum. Which one to do...
TOH-MAY-TOES TOH-MAH-TOES :mad2:
As much as I would love to be around today as things are getting quite silly... today is going to be my busiest day of the week. I wont be back for about 5 hours or so sadly :\
I MAY be able to make a quick summary of my thoughts when I get back before I go to bed but no promises.
If this gets me labeled as scum then so be it, I got stuff to do.
Also Will, you so crazy.
:erm:
3 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith
1 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver
17 hours, 20 minutes left.
Actually I don't have a lot of time to do much today because of life. :(
Fresh Prince log Day 2:
Liam Neeson - Dude seems alright for now, he's pretty much under the radar but still suspicious.
Dwayne Johnson - Dude is pretty defensive and his skills for making the tally look pretty is bitchin' Keeping track of the tally is not an easy task. He's rather suspicious though.
Sigourney Weaver - ROLE CLAIM as townie. Happy, suspicious lady?
Arnold Schwarzenegger - Acted weird on day one, chilled on real day one. iiiinteresting.
Daniel Craig - You're busy dude, I get that but you're on my list too. Everyone is suspicious, can't you tell?
Samuel L Jackson - Where have you been all day? I need my suspicious pink hair dance for the day :(
Bruce Willis - He's in a bunny suit. SUSPICIOUS!
Jason Statham - "Aspiring Leading Man" Psh :roll2 I've got my eye on you, bub.
Will Smith - SUSPICIOUS!! Oh wait, that's me :shobon:
Clint Eastwood - Comes and goes, not sure what to think except what I think of everyone else.
Uma Thurman - Yeah pretty much think the same about you
Nicolas Cage - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnd you.
Steven Seagal - Dammit, he turned out to be a psychopath and that dude seemed cool. Okay it was only because he remembered a term I didn't.
Jet Lag - Oh hi new person.
??????? - WHERE IS OTHER NEW PERSON? :(
Why can't we just all pursue happiness and love each other? Also I missed out on cake for this post HATE YOU ALL! :nonono:
I have not closely read all of days 0 and 1 yet. I will do so when I'm at my own computer. 500 posts in 2 days is a lot of information to peruse. Your post just jumped out at me when I saw it.
I also get bad vibes from Will Smith. I will be keeping an eye on him.
Dwayne, the only way you are going to learn how to play mafia is to get your hands dirty. If you are in the town, read the thread and if you see something that doesn't add up or flawed logic then quote it and explain why you think it's important. If you are in the mafia [strike]please die now[/strike] ask for advice in the mafia forum about what your team is planning, but your basic goal is to destroy the town without getting caught. Everyone playing was a mafia noob once.
Weird, I thought [strike] was a tag. Oh well.
##Vote: WeaverQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
I'll help anyone I think is town. Derp-fueled mislynches are bad for my wincon.
Mmmmhrmmm, what makes you think he's town? Just because he claims to be a rookie or are you just protecting your own? I'm way too lazy/busy to lead the town to do the right thing, so if I can do that in death then so be it.
Lynch Jason Statham.
##Unvote: Jason Statham
##Vote: Myself
I didn't claim townie, I claimed I was town. There's a difference. It means I am on the side of the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Will Smith
5 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver
0 [M] Jason Statham :[M] Sigourney Weaver
#35 : Pressuring Seagal and answering questions to try to move beyond the issue of voting inactives instead of active scum reads. +Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
#43: Caution about assuming you know more than you actually do reads town to me. +
#45 is where I posted my townread on The Rock, and nothing's happened since then to change my mind.
Self-voting is anti-town, dawg.
Sounds like something a scared mafia would do. Dunno though.
I was (sorta) right about the one badguy, and I think I'm still right about my other vote. So for now I'm sticking with:
##vote:Statham
Also, this game is never going to end...we get two new people every day and we've had 1 death total. lol I wonder if Laddy threw these new guys in because he was pissed at us for killing his psycho day1.
The game will end. All we have to do is kill all the scum.
Those links all lead to the same page.
Self voting is not anti-town. Reason being, I have nothing to worry about as me dying would only incriminate bad people. People who want to live are anti-town, with far less people on their side, and thus have every right to want to defend themselves. The problem is though that me dying so early on would hurt more than help town, but if I can take one scum down with me then so be it. It may lead to many more. ;)
However there's also a degree of collateral damage involved as well. Let's quickly examine who is voting for you:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
5 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver
Excluding you (obviously) there's four people voting for you. I'd say at least one of them is Mafia. While technically (given increased numbers) ALL FOUR of them could be Mafia, which might incriminate them, really? No. I'd say one, maybe two Mafia in there, and that's pushing it.
By you dying, you say you would incriminate bad people, but you might end up falsely incriminating good people as well. Even if you do flip town, it may end up hurting the town more than assisting it.
Besides, self-voting is more of a Mafia thing. Better push yourself under a bus than have a Mafia teammate incriminate himself pushing you under one.
Yes, but different posts on that page, with the post numbers noted in that link.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
Are you drunk?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
Put yourself in the position who got a town role PM.
Excepting cases like Sammy where your role signals the existence of another role, if you have a town role PM, you know the alignment of exactly one (1) player: yourself. Mislynches are bad for town. Selfvoting increases the likelihood of a mislynch of the only person you know to be confirmed town: yourself. If you help lynch yourself, then the town cannot lynch scum the same day, and the town needs to lynch scum to win.
Anything you do that leads to lynching someone you know is town is by definition antitown.
Although I can see how that logic wouldn't occur to you if you got a scum role PM.
No they were part of the original set-up and I finally got the opportunity to add them! xD
Anyway...
5 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver
1 [M] Jason Statham :[M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger
15 hours and 45 minutes left.
I'm sober.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas CageYes, but different posts on that page, with the post numbers noted in that link.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
Are you drunk?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
Put yourself in the position who got a town role PM.
Excepting cases like Sammy where your role signals the existence of another role, if you have a town role PM, you know the alignment of exactly one (1) player: yourself. Mislynches are bad for town. Selfvoting increases the likelihood of a mislynch of the only person you know to be confirmed town: yourself. If you help lynch yourself, then the town cannot lynch scum the same day, and the town needs to lynch scum to win.
Anything you do that leads to lynching someone you know is town is by definition antitown.
Although I can see how that logic wouldn't occur to you if you got a scum role PM.
You do have a point, a mislynch would be bad especially considering I am entirely too important to die, but my logic is that since town still outnumbers Mafia by a good number this early on, me dying is okay as it will incriminate more scum and the person who wreaks of the scummy, which is Jason. The only flip side to it is that the town who are being manipulated by the scum to vote for me will then be put on the chopping block. Scum will use their vote against me to try to put them up on the chopping block.
Don't twist her arm! She really wants to vote for herself....
[/sarcasm]
Weaver you keep hinting that you're somehow special to us, do you want to say why? I'm voting for Statham regardless, but I'd like to know if you're hinting because you're frustrated that attention's on you when you know what you can do for town or because you're mafia trying to sound like a poor wittle townie getting persecuted.
I just said I'm not a townie, so why would I act like a "poor little townie". :lol:
Now I know why Sam was so frustrated with you guys Jesus Christ. How many hints do I have to give? I said that Jason is confirmed bad. Do you need me to draw you a picture?
Role claiming 15 hours in to the day, yeah what's the point? I know that if I role claim I'm dead or definitely a a target atleast. Eventually I will if I must, because let's say (let's hope) that there is a Doctor, and that's why we have no night kills. I will help town and I am by telling you to kill Statham. You don't need to know why right now just know it's confirmed. :greenie:
You're talking like everyone on your wagon will be autolynched. The town isn't going to lynch someone purely because they voted in favour of a mislynch. Town can be wrong on reads, every townie understands this. Voting to lynch you convicts nobody. Especially if you flip scum, as I am becoming more and more certain you will with each post.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
Wrong, it convicts Jason. Ofcourse not everyone will be lynched who votes me and probably not everyone voting for me is scum. I'm not saying that, but the people who I pin pointed as being suspicious will be under scrutiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas Cage
Not really trying to convince you to roleclaim so much as, but if you must sacrifice yourself at least roleclaim first, and see what happens, instead of just killing yourself.
Hints, it seems to me, are stupid bulltrout in this. You don't know the relative experiences of the mafia vs townies. How do you know that the mafia won't pick up on your hints while the townies miss it completely? And how is that helpful?
I'm not accusing you of anything Weaver, I just don't know wth you're saying. I don't see where you said just now that you weren't a townie. And I don't know what that even means. How could you be for the town but not a townie and have somehow perfect knowledge that Statham's mafia? What combination of super powers is that?
I swear I've read the role faq. I swear it. I don't know how I keep missing trout.
Ofcourse a scum would say this because you know how I will turn up, so you're covering your own ass at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas Cage
You saying Cage is scum too? Is this another case of you knowing for sure, or you just suspect him?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney WeaverOfcourse a scum would say this because you know how I will turn up, so you're covering your own ass at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas Cage
I am willing to go with you claim Weaver. If you are what you claim you are then I think it is a more important role than Statham's role. Given the choice between those two I would choose you instead. But first we need to see Jason show up and throw down with nonsense and tell us more about what he picked, why and all that jazz. There is always the chance you are still scum and are just trying to survive one more day but there is still some time left.
##Unvote
So you say your not a townie, but that you are trying to help the town. Wha? I'm confused. And don't blame me for being green, seriously everyone's talking in riddles.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
Dammit, I don't understand. Weaver didn't claim a role, did she? She just says she knows Statham is mafia. Now I'm fine with that since I think Statham's mafia, but i don't understand the weird half-claim thing going on.
Okay so it seems I really do have to draw a picture. Geeze-us.:kakapo:
I didn't want to have to do this Day 2, 14 hours in to the day. Oh well.
I am the mothesmurfing Cop. I investigated Statham last night. He came up guilty. Happy now?
You can say oh you might be paranoid or insane cop, whatever. I won't know that unless I either die or Jason is lynched. Statham was already suspicious to me and many others, and that's why I'm thinking I am just the normal cop. Welp, I'm dead unless there's a Doc, but even then now that Mafia know this I'm definitely getting lynched today. See y'all later I guess.
I get exactly what Siggy is saying. I'm not going to spell it out though out of respect for her.
Or she can claim. Now the doctor and the mafia will have fun mind games tonight.
*sigh*
[img]http://www.0-60mag.com/wp-content/up...e-facepalm.gif[/img]
She was dropping hints on her role all throughout day 2. I believe her claim
##Vote: Jason Statham.
How is a cop not a townie?
Also, I don't see why you'd be lynched, we should far outnumber the mafia at this point.
I do think it was too early to claim though.
GDI how did I miss that.
##Unvote
#Vote: Statham
Ugh...I really should use that preview button I suppose >.>
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3 [M] Sigourney Weaver :[M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith,[M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver
3 [M] Jason Statham :[M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger, [M] Jet Li, [M] Nicolas Cage
14 hours 20 minutes.
If there is a protective role out there (might be Samuel) then you might be protected during the night. Siggy is being very self-defeatist. :|Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger
And where the hell is everybody? Samuel's not turned up, nor has any of the other townspeople that were so prominent on Day 1.
Sorry I've been gone all day. Give me a minute and I'll address some things and share the results of my "audition".
Cop claim? I believe it, no reason for mafia to make that claim today.
##vote: Statham
If Weaver's not Statham's buddy pulling some wild reverse-double-reverse-psycho-trick stunt, then a-ha, I knew I was right about him. Follow the gut, man.
Y'alll are not gonna make me lose my cool. Nope, nope, nope. I almost posted a frustrated wthjsitw post about you guys being entirely too oblivious when people drop hints or completely failing it.
You thought Sam was Vig and me townie. I just can't even. Townie is a Vanilla.
Dear god.
OK, Teddy, so I might not have formatted my vote properly, but I did format my unvote properly.
##Vote: Statham
Better?
Also to those who've been saying I've been active; I'm sorry I haven't had time to make long winded posts, but I've been keeping up if that makes you all feel better :p. I think I'm going to change the account I have registered to my phone so I can post mobile in this thread.
Hmm.
##Unvote: Sigourney Weaver
I'm wondering how Jason's crazy roleclaim is going to pan out. :p
When people don't take a hint, you should drop it in the future. Here's to hoping we have a doctor that can protect you.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sigourney Weaver
We do: Samuel L.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma Thurman
2 [M] Sigourney Weaver :[M] Jet Li,[M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith,[M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver
4 [M] Jason Statham :[M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger, [M] Jet Li, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Uma Thurman
Well frankly you're sounding like a meany there Weaver, not all of us have played this enough times to know everything about everything. Do a better job of hinting perhaps. Nobody made you roleclaim, my vote was already on Statham. Nowhere in the role-faq linked to by this or the sign-up is there a sign that says townie=vanilla. To me, townie meant good guys, mafia meant bad guys. I've used it this way enough times that if anyone with a little experience was paying attention they maybe could have said something, corrected me.
Hrm? Where was that claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas CageWe do: Samuel L.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma Thurman
He didn't claim that. Are you trolling me now?
Why is there no other frustrated gifs of Signourney Weaver? I will just have to keep using the face palm one.
He said he had curing powers for the killer. He never came in here confirming that he could protect other people.
Based on his foreknowledge that there was a third party killer (i.e. Seagal), he must have been the SK's antithesis.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma ThurmanHrm? Where was that claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas CageWe do: Samuel L.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma Thurman
He claimed shrink yesterday, that's how he knew there was a third-party killer, which proved to be correct; once the psychopath is cured/killed, the shrink becomes a regular doc in most rulesets. Sam L. can confirm or deny this when he gets his ass online, but I guess he was so sure he was going to die that he's not paying attention today.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma ThurmanHrm? Where was that claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nicolas CageWe do: Samuel L.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma Thurman
Ah so Nic Cage was theorizing our Dr. Strike one.
While perhaps the wording was strong, in general, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger
Sorry for being new to this :crying:
I thought that the psychiatrist (the healer of the psychopath) turned into a doctor after the psycopath's death (or cure). I think that was the assumption...
Lay on, MacDuff, and damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!'Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Uma Thurman