I have voted Apollo 4 times today. :lol:
I have voted Apollo 4 times today. :lol:
Make that 5.
##Unvote: Apollo
##Vote: Apollo
Votecount
I will put a (b) next to a person's name if the vote counted as a bandwagon or not.
Poseidon (3) - Hermes, Hebe(b),Apollo,Hestia(b), Apollo(b)
Nyx (3) - Helios, Tyche(b), Aphrodite(b)
Helios (2) - Hera, Poseidon(b)
Hermes (2) - Artemis, Hestia(b)
Apollo (2) -Hygieia,Artemis(b),Hygieia(b),Hygieia,Hestia(b),Hygieia, Nyx(b), Hygieia
Hestia (0) -Apollo,Hestia(b)
Not voting: Ares, Demeter, Dionysus, Eilithyia, Hades, Hemera
Next vote must be a bandwagon on Apollo.
Day 3 ends in about 3 and a half hours.
I'm off to sleep time to fire a parting shot!
##unvote: Poseidon
##vote: Hermes
See you all for the fireworks :bigsmile:
Poseidon, can you quote the specific post you're having trouble with. I am all over the place right now because I thought I had something close to buttoned up but now I'm not so sure (mindsmurf mindsmurf mindsmurf.)
Apollo you cannot make that vote.
Apollos vote on Hermes is not valid.
I think his unvote is valid though
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Apollo
She's right, sorry. There were some posts made while I was typing up that votecount. I have edited it. Next vote must be on you I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hestia
##Vote: Apollo ;)
Jesus Christ! I have to ask permission to put myself in harms way? Let me put it this way.
I'm smurfing bomb proof... sometimes.
Is Hades bomb proof, even if just a tiny little bit? My guess is no. You may be Lord of the Underworld but you 100% won't come back from this. Let me smurfing do it. I'm going to try to anyways, should it come to that, so you might as well just sit back, relax, and sip your Styx tea.
Oh look at me taking 20 years to type that up and post it while everyone else has moved on.
Nothin' to see here folks. Go on about your business. :shobon:
This part of your last big post:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hades
The rest of your non-"paranoid land" post was otherwise solid. Though I don't think so much bomb crap is so suspicious in this crazy game.Quote:
What could be happening in paranoia land (Hades head) Apollo and Hemera are both scum and trying to get me to trade. A smart person, obviously, would insist at this point we take the risk of making the bomb-proof claimant the lynch-vote. That way we lose no town. What actually happens is the "smart" person tries to use this line of reasoning and the other scum and some town see "smart" person as a flip-flopper, they stop trusting me and possibly even lynch me.
You don't have to ask permission. Like I said, I'm paranoid about this kind of stuff. I guess with this bandwagon thing I can't really stop you from being the lynch vote, because you can either 1) Not vote or 2) keep changing the bandwagon until the day ends.
@ Poseidon: If I had vehemently argued that Hemera should be the sacrifice and then Hemera was a pro-town that died in the sacrifice, that would paint me very badly. However, I win if town wins, and if there really is a chance we might take out a non-town and NOT lose a pro-town, I realize I should take it whether I'm the next to die or not.
Del didn't create a mindsmurf set-up. We create the mindsmurf by WIFOM overload.
I'm assuming Hemera has a percentage chance to survive the blast. There are other roles like this. The insane doctor is an example, and whatever Strawberry's role was last game also had a chance to give an STD.
Right have to sleep
##unvote:Apollo
Happy exploding :bigsmile:
I will have to be going shortly as well. I really wanted to hear more from Poseidon and several others who have been quiet throughout this whole shebang. I'll try to check once more before I go to sleep, but until then...
##vote Apollo
You can't unvote Apollo.
Apollo can't unvote, he fails. I really don't know what to do right now, so I think I will leave my vote on Poseidon and hope that I can come back here before the day is over and something will happen so I can vote.
I'm not even sure his vote on himself went through. I hope so, I don't like Apollo one bit.
Apollo's unvote indeed fails, but now Hades has a vote on Apollo, so he can unvote if he chooses. (though his vote is on himself anyway for not voting even if I counted it)
Apollo is most likely is the bomb, but he is playing for himself though hence his vote for the doctor to save himself despite Apollo not actually believing the doctor was scummy.
Does his vote on himself count though? He didn't exactly unvote Poseidon, but that was inferred.
Children, children! All these well-structured and compelling arguments are giving me a headache! Or maybe... it's a sexy-ache? Am I right or am I right?
I, too, would like to know whether Apollo's vote on himself went through. Del Zeus?
Please talk about something other than your alleged innate sex appeal...
I thought about saving this for tomorrow but I might not have much online time and forget, so I wanted to hopefully save some fruitless arguing and lynching and at least might help some good discussion. My big post:
And this officially teaches me not to sign up for this game when it occurs during the first week of classes.
I just tried to wade through some of the current discussion. Even though the attention has drifted from me a bit, I would first like to address a big deal that has been made out of this one post of mine, with the following assessment by Hermes, because I might not even have time tomorrow with a chunk of my journal article editing due Thursday:
I just have one explanation for this: If that were my only post, I would agree with it entirely. But the point is belied by the fact that I came out as suspicious against Hestia before anyone else, and announced suspicions of both Hades and Apollo. I felt the need to post my thoughts about Hermes because with his new biker gang he was the center of attention, and… well, I wasn’t sure. Maybe I should have waited to read things more carefully or even wait for someone else better than me to come up with a better idea, but I have been rushed for any serious posting time since this weekend.Quote:
- Poseidon plays it both ways. If the town turns on me, bam, he can easily join in. If not, no worries, I could just be town. Notice how he never expressively states his view one way or the other…
- Notice how Poseidon is not to blame for things. He could be wrong about me, but that's ok, he's a new player. Hestia isn't the most suspicious to him, but that's ok, he's got to go so he'll make a safe vote for her.
Hermes also missed one side of this analysis: given that the above post is different from my prior posts as in my first wavering post, that post is suspicious that Hermes and I are both mafia. I was not shy about pointing out suspicions, even towards unpopular subjects, beforehand, but someone else is the target and suddenly I get wishy-washy. The likely reasons I see are that maybe I actually was unsure because the situation was bizarre, or maybe I was protecting my ass if my mafia buddy gets found out, so no one can point fingers at me for trying to defend him.
But I was just unsure. And I don’t think Hermes is mafia (yes, that is also what I would say if we were both mafia, but then Hermes wouldn’t have put a spotlight on me where none was before). If you need to lynch me, oh well; I assure you the town will not be losing much by my death, outside of my brilliant posts, of course.
My thoughts: I still do not trust Apollo or Hestia. But as I concluded in my last post, I highly doubt both are mafia due to the voting of last round. I would support lynching Apollo, and if he turns mafia, I would consider Hestia almost beyond suspicion (yes, I will finally shut up about you :p). I think we should call Apollo’s bluff, since he’s really not helping us either way.
I also do not trust Nyx or Helios, given the reasons of Hermes’s extensive post around that. Helios especially had a sketchy bandwagon onto Nyx’s posts, continuing the theme of emphasizing the loss of the town. Maybe it’s just me, but that just always sounds insincere and trying too hard to show people your town loyalty, especially making similar comments well after someone else. I just can’t believe they’re both mafia, or else they’re just highly incompetent, so out of two I trust Helios the least, if only for bandwagoning. Helios needs to be looked at.
Also, did you guys realize that Eros was mafia? Isn’t that some sort of clue? I just looked back through this entire thread and she did nothing. No Day 1 or 2 votes, and posted anything really just on Day 0. And no one had even mentioned her. How long would she have lived if one of the killing factions hadn’t targeted her? Don’t you think this should bring on some suspicion for all the other non-posting non-voters out there? This is not for today, as we seem to have enough on our hands right now and only a couple of hours left, but it’s something to think about down the line.
Whew.
I have no idea what I can vote for right now, so I’ll just hang back. I would vote for Apollo or Helios, though it looks like only Apollo has a chance of being lynched.
## Vote: Apollo (I think I can do that)
Hah, I just realized I decided to vote for Apollo and left in the "hang back" line (which I had just typed). I should sleep.
From my observations, the nightkills have all targetted inactives (or just very quiet posters). This, in my mind, supports the idea of two mafia factions, as the common mafia tactic is to just take out inactives so you don't draw any attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Poseidon
Why, then, is Ares untouched? Not a single post all game. Dionysus and Eilithyia have both disappeared off the radar after Day 1. Eilithyia has made only two posts, one of them confirmation and the other was a vote on Medusa.
Dionysus also disappeared when he had a double vote ability. I can't make sense of that, but Poseidon is right in that it is something to think about after today.
And by 'it' in the last sentence, I am referring to inactives. Just to clarify.
Okay, I am a fed goddess. My madness will subside for now.
My guess is that either Ares, Dionysus, and Eilithyia are in need of replacements which is why Del is looking for one now. The others are just lay lows. While it's true that not all mafia behave alike, we should pay close attention to inactive players that behaved similar to Eros.
Upon further investigation, Helios stands out. (I'll try my best not to be too hypocritical..)
First he voted for Persephone (our doctor) with this justification:
Woah! Someone being almost as vague as I am! Sorry Helios, to get away with that, you must be atleast an 8 on the sex-o-scale. Or a townie who has just made a mistake. I suspect you are neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
Then, he voted for Nyx:
Two people who haven't been particularly suspicious in the scheme of things (yes, I admit I initially voted clumsily.) Since Tyche has also placed a vote for Nyx, I wonder if Helios is mentioning her as a suspect simply to distract from their mafia plot to eliminate Nyx.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
Eros, the mafia member, who had been eliminated earlier. Was it an accident or another tactic by Helios to create the illusion that he is innocent and unaware of the movements of his mafia compadres?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
If my theory of Nyx being a mafia target is correct, she must be innocent. For this reason..
##Unvote: [M] Nyx
##Vote: [M] Helios
(Pretty sure I can do that.. my apologies if I cannot. :) )
Votecount
I will put a (b) next to a person's name if the vote counted as a bandwagon or not.
Apollo (5) -Hygieia,Artemis(b),Hygieia(b),Hygieia,Hestia(b),Hygieia, Nyx(b), Hygieia, Apollo, Hades(b), Poseidon(b)
Poseidon (2) - Hermes, Hebe(b),Apollo,Hestia(b),Apollo(b)
Nyx (2) - Helios, Tyche(b),Aphrodite(b)
Helios (2) - Hera,Poseidon(b), Aphrodite
Hermes (2) - Artemis, Hestia(b)
Hestia (0) -Apollo,Hestia(b)
Not voting: Ares, Demeter, Dionysus, Eilithyia, Hemera
Next vote must be made on Helios.
Day 3 ends in about 1 and a half hours.
Looks like we have one hour left till the end of the day, and Apollo currently has the most votes. I am a little uncomfortable with this. Hopefully, I'll get this bandwagon vote for Helios over with so someone could cast another vote for someone new, if they want to! :jess:
##Unvote: Nyx
##Vote: Helios
##vote: Apollo
Helios. so...
##Vote: Helios
thank you,
Dionysus
Dionysus, your vote doesn't count. The next vote must be for Apollo.
Oh, what a pity!
Oh, how much time do we have left, Del Zeus?
~30min
Oh splendid!
Today must be Apollo's lucky day!
I, Tyche, lady of luck
Feel something foul is amuck.
So, great Zeus, hear me pray,
And please give us another day.
*rubs rabbit's foot* *gives clover a pinch*,
*taps horseshoe* ##PREVENT LYNCH!
Nothing happens.
Tick tock tick tock (that's the clock ticking down on Day 3)
:bou::bou::bou::bou: :(
Oh man, I'm not going to lie, this is rather annoying...
Ok, I haven't read up on the little bit that I've missed, as the day is running out, but I think I should at least throw my archaic opinion out there.
I've been seeing Apollo as being a little bit sus for a while, constantly trying to save his 'a$$' and there were a few times that he pointed out the fact that he was in danger of lynching, when it wasn't all too certain. Despite this he hasn't done anything (from what I've read so far) that I think is this damning, but I do want to make a vote...
So if I vote Apollo it frees up the bandwagon to start elsewhere I guess.
##Vote: Apollo
Demeter, you may want to at least read up on the part where a good number of us think Apollo is a bomb and the last person to have voted for him before you has a chance of surviving the blast.
##: Clean up mess from the annihilation of the Minotaur
Tick Tock, Tick Tock
So sounds the Apollo clock.
All the gods may want to clear the room.
You don't want to be around when Apollo goes BOOM!
Apollo was a Mega Bomb, played by Shattered Dreamer. Thanks for playing! (you were very entertaining)
Unfortunately, Demeter did not clear the room like I said (she never listens). Demeter was a Serial Killer, played by Timekeeper.
Day 3 Final Votecount
Apollo (7) -Hygieia,Artemis(b),Hygieia(b),Hygieia,Hestia(b),Hygieia, Nyx(b), Hygieia, Apollo, Hades(b), Poseidon(b), Hemera, Demeter(b)
Helios (3) - Hera,Poseidon(b), Aphrodite, Tyche(b)
Poseidon (2) - Hermes, Hebe(b),Apollo,Hestia(b),Apollo(b)
Hermes (2) - Artemis, Hestia(b)
Nyx (1) - Helios,Tyche(b),Aphrodite(b)
Hestia (0) -Apollo,Hestia(b)
Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Eilithyia
Night 3 starts now and lasts 24 hours. Let's get them in so I can start Day 4 early, though I am going to bed now so it won't start for at least 8 hours. ;)
With that infernal ticking gone, the gods were able to sleep a little more soundly. All except Hygieia, who couldn't sleep knowing a mess was out there, so she spent the night cleaning up bits of Apollo. She thought she was done, but in the distance she spotted a particularly large speck of dirt. As she got closer she saw that it was a hoof, and looked up in horror to find that the hoof belonged to the Minotaur's big brother, Megotaur. Megotaur was not pleased about how she killed his brother (because he owed him 10 bucks), and promptly gored Hygieia.
Artemis was the first to awake and find Hygieia's body. Determined to avenge her grand-niece, Artemis went on the hunt. She soon found the Megotaur at a pond, hitting on some nymphs. She summoned all her strength and aimed an arrow right at his head. It was so well shot that it went right through his skull, all the way around the world, and hit Artemis herself right in the back of the head.
Hermes then showed up and teabagged the Megotaur. For good measure he teabagged Artemis too.
Hygieia was a Mason, played by qwertysaur. Thanks for playing! Sorry to see you go, qwert, you're one of the best.
Artemis was a Sane Cop Who Thought They Were Insane, played by Shiny. Thanks for playing! It was fun watching you go mad trying to understand your role. ;)
The rest of Olypus awoke to find Jason and the Argo had left, but one Argonaut stayed behind. It was Heracles, son of Zeus and greatest Greek hero of all. He addressed them, "Most hallowed gods, my father would like me to pass a message on to you. There is benefit to teamwork, but sometimes the greatest strength comes from the individual. I have felled many a beast in my travels, most with nothing more than these two hands. For that reason, father has decreed that you must think for yourselves today. That way, the strong will be separated from the vile."
Game info:
The opposite of Bandwagon Day, today is Think for Yourselves Day! This time, you cannot vote for the person who was last voted. In addition to that, once you unvote, you cannot vote for the person you most recently voted for. Like before, you can only unvote once someone else has voted. Example:
- Del Murder votes for Psychotic.
- Demon Dude now cannot vote for Psychotic, so he votes for Del Murder.
- Psychotic now cannot vote for Del Murder, but he can vote for anyone else (even himself if he chooses). He votes for Demon Dude.
- Del Murder is allowed to unvote (and he was able to as soon as Demon Dude voted). He does so. He now cannot vote for Demon Dude (the previous vote cast), and Psychotic (his previous vote). So he votes for himself because he's silly.
- Once someone else votes, Del Murder can unvote and vote for Psychotic again if he chooses (but he cannot vote for himself).
Only votes made in this manner will be counted today.
Day 4 starts now and ends in 24 hours or when a majority lynch takes place. With 14 players left it takes 8 votes for a majority.
Two kills? I figured that'd end with the Serial Killer getting himself blown up. A one-shot thing, maybe?
:confused:
Ok, I finally have a day completely to myself, and I will soon make a large post. I think I will try to give my opinion on everyone, then go into more detail, or something...
When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside
You gotta take a stand you don't have to hide
If you hurt my friends then you hurt my pride
I gotta be a man, I can't let it slide
I am a Real American
Fight for the rights of every man
I am a Real American
Fight for what's right, fight for your life!
Oh for smurf's sake. I hope this was a one-time deal and not another killing faction.
Oh Hermes and his crazy role claims! :jess:
Now, let's see. Apparently my attempt to prevent yesterday's lynch failed, most likely due to Apollo's role being the Mega Bomb, and I think this would give everyone a wrong impression of my role. But fear not, my fellow gods and goddesses, we can work together to rid this town of the scums! Now that a serial killer is gone, this would make our jobs a little bit easier, starting today!
With that, I shall cast the first vote of the day, and I think I'll go with our good friend Hades to get things started! Oh dear, I guess the next voter will have to choose someone else!
##Vote: Hades
Let me tell ya somethin', brother. 30,000 Hermesmaniacs can't be wrong. I am not crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
Voting for Poseidon. Same reasons as yesterday, dude.
##vote: Poseidon
Oh, I wasn't calling you crazy Hermes, just your role claims!
You better not have been, brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
A lifetime of this awaits you if you were.
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If I could vote for Poseidon, perhaps I would based on Hermes reasoning from yesterday. Hmm. For now, I'll stay true to being my old mirror self and vote for Nyx because I still get the gut feeling that she's a no-gooder.
##Vote: Nyx
Why did two people die when a Serial Killer was killed? I want thoughts!
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What are you on about Eilithyia?
Aphrodite: (SPOILER)She jumped on the bandwagon for Persephone, then jumped on the bandwagon for Nyx the next day. Then, on day 3 after she saw that people were kinda moving from Nyx to Helios, with evidence that was recycled from pretty much everyone else, and was, of course, played off as her own evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] AphroditeUpon further investigation, Helios stands out. (I'll try my best not to be too hypocritical..)
First he voted for Persephone (our doctor) with this justification:
Woah! Someone being almost as vague as I am! Sorry Helios, to get away with that, you must be atleast an 8 on the sex-o-scale. Or a townie who has just made a mistake. I suspect you are neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
Then, he voted for Nyx:
Two people who haven't been particularly suspicious in the scheme of things (yes, I admit I initially voted clumsily.) Since Tyche has also placed a vote for Nyx, I wonder if Helios is mentioning her as a suspect simply to distract from their mafia plot to eliminate Nyx.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
Eros, the mafia member, who had been eliminated earlier. Was it an accident or another tactic by Helios to create the illusion that he is innocent and unaware of the movements of his mafia compadres?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
If my theory of Nyx being a mafia target is correct, she must be innocent. For this reason..
##Unvote: [M] Nyx
##Vote: [M] Helios
(Pretty sure I can do that.. my apologies if I cannot. :) )
Dionysus: (SPOILER)Has done and said nearly nothing. Is inactive. Makes random votes for no real reason.
Eilithyia: (SPOILER)Says and does nothing and is completely useless
Hades: (SPOILER)Makes long, pretty intelligent posts. His arguement against Hermes seemed to be a simple misunderstanding, and I think it was a bluff when he chose to sacrifice himself to lynch the bomb, but I don't suspect him.
Helios: (SPOILER)Has talked a fair bit and hasn't said much. Voted for Nyx for voting for Persephone, while it was her that did it, which has already been said.
Hemera: (SPOILER)Has made a few posts, hasn't really said anything, but made a roleclaim, which I think is true, because of how she tried to have the final vote on the bomb. A town would almost never take that chance, and a mafia certainly wouldn't.
Hera: (SPOILER)Seems to be a smart person that makes useful posts and gives me no reason to suspect her. I do not clear her because of her roleclaim, which she said herself, but I think she is Town based on how she acts
Hermes: (SPOILER)Has made smart posts, seems to be having fun, isn't being all that distracting, and gives me no real reason to suspect him.
Hestia: (SPOILER)Hestia, since I first stated my suspicions on her, has done nothing to make me suspect her more. I am still suspicious of her, but because she hasn't done anything lately to make me suspect her, I would do no more than watch her closely.
Nyx: (SPOILER)Makes fair posts, I don't really have a read on her. Seems to be paying a lot of attention to inactives, but for good reason, I suppose
Poseidon: (SPOILER)Hermes said everything there is to know about him. I don't know what else to add. Looking through his posts don't really say anything, except for what Hermes said
Tyche: (SPOILER)Has done and said almost nothing, but I found something to object to...
Right here... I see 3 possibilities for this. Either she was joking, and it was not the time to be joking, she is a role that she thought was governor but it isn't, which is helped by the fact that we have roles like Drunk Bus Driver and Sane Insane Cop, or she is mafia trying to make us think either 1 or 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
Who I suspect in order now of most to least, with people I don't believe are mafia left out...
Aphrodite
Tyche
Poseidon
Helios
Hestia
You think you'll try or something? Mega Vague!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hebe
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hera
Wait, who's mirroring who now? :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hemera
Post something serious. :choc:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
[QUOTE='[M] Helios;2902643']You think you'll try or something? Mega Vague!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hebe
Lol, I meant "I plan on giving my opinion on everyone and then I will try going into more detail, or something", which is what I did, so myeh.
D:
Forgot the second quote tag XD
While it was her that did it? Who did what? Sorry, your wording confused me and I don't understand what you're trying to say!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hebe
Oh sorry, I meant "While she did the same".
So we're going to assume you're a Governor, but for some reason, that didn't go through? I suppose it is a possibility, but there's not a whole lot of evidence we can draw from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
If I'm going to be attacked for posts like this, Tyche is going to as well. Of course working together is the way to rid the town of scum. Self evident really.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
And is our job really easier now that the Serial Killer is dead? There is no solid evidence Demeter even killed anyone, drawing from last night's body count. That means there's still two people/parties out there that can wipe us out.
Maybe Tyche is a Naive Governor, dudes! Mindsmurf Mafia and all - that's the best explanation I can come up with.
As far as the new kill is concerned...Inventor or One Shot Vg, perhaps. It's not really worth thinking about in too much detail as we won't know for sure until someone claims or dies. All I know is that I have the largest pythons in the world.
1) A roleblocker prevented kills Nights 1 and 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
2) Persephone protected one target Night 1, roleblocker prevented Night 2
3) Serial Killer was fake (See: Wannabe Serial Killer from last game)
Those are the only three I can think of.
Wow, I must've missed the part where she claimed Governor. But... uh, I guess it makes sense that she implied that she was one without actually flat-out saying it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NyxSo we're going to assume you're a Governor, but for some reason, that didn't go through? I suppose it is a possibility, but there's not a whole lot of evidence we can draw from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
She sort of sounds like you and me. "All is not lost," etc. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NyxIf I'm going to be attacked for posts like this, Tyche is going to as well. Of course working together is the way to rid the town of scum. Self evident really.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
And is our job really easier now that the Serial Killer is dead? There is no solid evidence Demeter even killed anyone, drawing from last night's body count. That means there's still two people/parties out there that can wipe us out.
I think Demeter was successful every night. And I think you're wrong about there being two dangers now.
I don't like how you have decided to attach yourself to me now. If I recall, you've been the one apparently mirroring my posts, not the other way around. I think you should stop trying to mimic me, and then throw heat on me. I don't appreciate it, and you've just elevated on my suspicions list.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
That's a possibility, as you can see from my earlier post, I didn't consider the possibility of a one-shot deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
However, let's look at it for a second. A one-shot Vigilante or an Inventor are town aligned, yes?
Why then, would they choose to nightkill the night after the Serial Killer is killed? It just confuses the town as to what the deal is. It makes us suspect there's another threat out there.
We wouldn't be any less confused if it happened on a later day. (Not to mention Inventors don't always know what they're doing!)
I beg to differ (on both points).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hera
If we had a single kill last night, and two kills this coming night, then it supports the idea of a one shot deal much more. Because what are the odds of there being three killing factions, with one blocked each night up until that point? Not high, I would imagine.
Inventors's gadgets usually have a hint in the name. You're aren't usually required to use them, either. Would it have been so hard to hold off until another night?
Rawr. No, I voted for Persephone first. The other "mirror" post about, "A Doctor is dead but all is not lost," was actually not related to you at all. As you can see from me not even really understanding that Tyche claimed Governor, I haven't been keeping the best tabs on the posts this game. I'll be stepping up quite a bit now, though. Really though, why so defensive? xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
They probably wouldn't. I mean, it'd be their choice to do so but I agree with you. It would be a bad choice. I don't think a role like that that was pro-town would do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
[QUOTE='[M] Nyx;2902662']I seriously doubt our fallen Serial Killer is a fake. The role after Demeter's death flat out said Serial Killer, and not any other variation of the role.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
I, too, think Demeter was the real deal. I think she killed Eros. (Nice shot.) :jess:
So hypothetically, if we had one kill last night, and two this night, you'd believe a one shot ability rather than a successful roleblock or something else interfering. But right now you think our Serial Killer couldn't get one successful hit? If I were a vigilante I'd just shoot whoever I thought was suspicious. Three days is enough to get a good feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NyxI beg to differ (on both points).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hera
If we had a single kill last night, and two kills this coming night, then it supports the idea of a one shot deal much more. Because what are the odds of there being three killing factions, with one blocked each night up until that point? Not high, I would imagine.
Inventors's gadgets usually have a hint in the name. You're aren't usually required to use them, either. Would it have been so hard to hold off until another night?
I guess it doesn't really matter, I just think that's a silly conclusion to come to.
Anyway, I'm voting you. Not because I disagree with you on this, that would be silly. I just find you scummy.
##Vote: Nyx
Ah, but you can't vote for Nyx. I voted for her as the most current vote. Think for yourself!
Oh, I thought the last vote was Hades...
Would it not be more of a mindsmurf if it were fake, though? That's what I was working off, that the presence of a fake Serial Killer would really confuse the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
##Vote: [M] Helios
Hold onto that vote for me Helios. Now Hera can vote.
I gave options, I'm not believing any one because that blinds me to other possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hera
You're right on the vigilante deal though. I don't know why, but I just assumed a killing faction would just kill every night, town aligned or not. Which reinforces the previous paragraph in that it blinds me to other (more sensible) things.
Noted.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hera
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Originally Posted by [M] NyxWould it not be more of a mindsmurf if it were fake, though? That's what I was working off, that the presence of a fake Serial Killer would really confuse the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
##Vote: [M] Helios
Hold onto that vote for me Helios. Now Hera can vote.
It would be a mindsmurf, indeed. I think you should drop that idea and stop spreading it around, though. Explain how there were 2+ kills each night if the Serial Killer actually had no hand in the deaths.
I will explain it, then I will drop it. You seem to be baiting me here, which I don't like, but I feel a better explanation might help my cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
Now, these are possibilities. I'm trying to cover as many bases as I can, because one overlooked might be the one that exists.
1) Two mafia, fake serial killer
2) Mafia, Vigilante, fake serial killer
3) Mafia, Real Serial Killer, fake serial killer (highly improbable)
I think that should cover the possibilities, really. But if we want to work with the idea that there was a one-shot kill last night and the serial killer is real, then I'm happy to do that.
##Vote: Nyx
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Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
I think all of those options are highly improbable. Roleblocking/Protecting the correct person is difficult enough in the beginning of the game but to have it happen on Night 1 and Night 2 leaving only 2 successful killshots per night... Preposterous! And yes, I'll drop it as well. But I'm glad we gave people things to talk about!
I'm about to go to bed unless we keep posting but I'll be up early. So don't miss me too much.
Haha oh wait derp derp. You were only saying there would be 2 kills each night which makes my roleblock/protection thought just way off base. My bad.
Why Nyx, Hera. Gotta have reasons!
http://www.wsd1.org/greenway/fitfun/...on/raisins.jpg
That's okay Helios, so long as you understand now. Get to sleep so you can be rested and back to discuss later!
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Okay, good night.
PS. I think I know how Artemis died!
Way to leave on a cliff hanger, Helios. You should share that idea now, so it can be discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
I could give reasons but it'd just be a repeat of various other posts. I don't like repeating things, regardless of whether or not I was the one who said them :|
Smurfface premiering tonight at Del Cinema! Get your tickets!
Dear Helois, you think I am joking. How wrong you are, you clown. Artemis isn't dead yet. I used phoenix down. To smurf off the faces of all those around.
A pie baker?
That's what pie baker does, right :confused:
I'm in a hurry. Wah. All I have to say is, while this latest discussion has been interesting, it hasn't been particularly illuminating. Helios remains my prime suspect (for the same reasons as before) and that is how I am choosing to vote at this stage.
##Vote: [M] Helios
I wish I had more to contribute. Ah well. Smurf ya later!
Votecout
Nyx (2) - Helios, Hera
Helios (2) - Nyx, Aphrodite
Hades (2) - Tyche, (self-vote)
Poseidon (2) - Hermes, (self-vote)
Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Eilithyia, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hestia, Poseidon
Day 4 ends in about 14 and a half hours.
I will try to summarize my racing thoughts on notable people while I can stay awake:
Artemis/Hermes: Am I missing something here, or did a cop die who was focusing exclusively on Hermes? I know she was a sane insane cop, but if she investigated herself Night 1 like a good cop, she knew what her results were -- on the flip side, if she didn't, then she was thinking the opposite, which would make Hermes all-but beyond suspicion. Has Shiny played mafia before? Is she someone who would have known to do that? If she's new then I would doubt it.
Tyche: He has not screwed around as much as Apollo and Hermes, so I don't think he was just joking with that attempt to stop the lynch. I guess we can’t rule out a weird false or only-occasionally-successful role in this game, but it would also be quite a bluff. An explanation from him would be nice. He also didn’t provide any reasons for his vote for Hades. I think he’s been pretty suspicious, but I would like to hear his explanation for why he tried to stop the lynch and why he thought he could.
Nyx/Helios: I put these two together because I don’t think both can be mafia, but they have both aroused my suspicion. Nyx was very argumentative earlier today, but about pointless, highly unlikely hypothetical situations, which just confuses me, but it does seem unusually defensive. Helios has also been argumentative and seems to be trying to jump on everyone, which to me seems suspicious. Helios still grabs me as the most mafia-like. But they’ve been drawing too much attention to themselves and getting votes to have each other lynched for them both to be mafia.
Aphrodite: Has been a professional bandwagonner with little to no explanation in most cases. Her one attempt at it in this post had some pretty weak justifications (and I agree with her that Helios is suspicious) which if anything just makes her more scummy. She says Nyx wasn’t suspicious after having voted Nyx, and then offers some very weak non-evidence (as far as I can tell, just the fact that Helios happened to mention Eros). That post made her much more suspicious to me, as it seems like she was just trying very hard to find something on Helios in particular so she could hop on board.
Also, I don’t think some of you saw this post of mine where I, in part, addressed Hermes (or at least no one responded). Citing someone else’s post as your exclusive evidence is not very helpful for discussion.
Helios and Aphrodite are my top choices at the moment (I will defer judgment on Tyche and Hermes until there’s more info). Since the last vote is for Helios, that means:
##Vote: Aphrodite
Even experienced mafia players rarely investigate themselves (Shiny has played several times before). Sometimes the host doesn't even let Doctors or Cops target themselves. After all, realistically you can't operate on yourself and if you can't just suddenly go "oh okay guess I'm insane." (Most hosts will let you, I think.)
Really? I was under the impression it was more common. Though I have only heard that from one experienced player before (Freya).
To keep track:
Day 3 Final Votecount
Apollo (7) -Hygieia,Artemis(b),Hygieia(b),Hygieia,Hestia(b),Hygieia, Nyx(b), Hygieia, Apollo, Hades(b), Poseidon(b), Hemera, Demeter(b)
Helios (3) - Hera,Poseidon(b), Aphrodite, Tyche(b)
Poseidon (2) - Hermes, Hebe(b),Apollo,Hestia(b),Apollo(b)
Hermes (2) - Artemis, Hestia(b)
Nyx (1) - Helios,Tyche(b),Aphrodite(b)
Hestia (0) -Apollo,Hestia(b)
Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Eilithyia
Day 1 Final Votecount
Hephaestus (4) - Asclepius, Persephone, Hestia, (self-vote)
Hades (3) - Hera, Hermes, Apollo
Apollo (2) - Artemis, Hemera
Tyche (2) - Helios, Nyx
Hestia (2) - Poseidon, Hebe
Poseidon (2) - Cerberus, Hygieia
Athena (2) - Aphrodite, (self-vote)
Hera (1) - Dionysus
Nyx (1) - Tyche
Hermes (1) - Hades
Hemera (0) -Apollo
Cerberus (0) -Hermes
Hebe (0) -Hestia
Not voting:
Ares, Athena, Demeter, Eilithyia, Eros, Hephaestus
No-vote:
Medusa
Day 2 Final Votecount
Persephone (7) - Helios, Nyx, Aphrodite, Tyche, Demeter,Hermes,Asclepius,Apollo,Hestia, Hebe, Apollo
Apollo (6) - Hygieia,Hestia, Hades, Persephone, Hestia, Hera
Hestia (1) -Apollo, Poseidon,Apollo
Eilithyia (2) - Asclepius, (self-vote)
Hermes (1) - Artemis
Artemis (1) - Hermes
[b]Asclepius (0)[/b] -Hera
Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Eilithyia, Eros, Hemera
Day 0 Final Votecount
Medusa - 4: Hygieia, Eilithyia, Apollo, Hemera
Eros - 2: Hestia, Athena
Hemera - 2: Poseidon, Hera
Nyx - 2: Persephone, (self-vote)
Aphrodite - 2: Hermes, (self-vote)
Hera - 2: Hebe, Hephaestus
Hephaestus - 1: Eros
Persephone - 1: Helios
Apollo - 1: Medusa
Helios - 1: Demeter
Eilithyia - 1: Tyche
Hermes - 1: Asclepius
Asclepius - 1: Dionysus
Not voting:
Aphrodite, Ares, Artemis, Cerberus, Hades, Nyx
Something to consider:
Hera claimed Bomb Detector (Said, Apollo is 100 % the bomb)
Hemera claimed Bomb Squad (Said, would sacrifice self because they are sometimes bomb proof)
The run down:
Aphrodite - Is very gimmicky. Day 0 were we all apparently not told our roles so one can conclude that this gimmick is not a part of Aphrodite's role and in fact some sort of technique to make them appear less intimidating. She latches on to completely random votes without any reason. Just look at the one she just put. They post just enough to avoid suspicion of inaction, yet enough to incriminate themselves. They also tend to go for players that aren't currently about to get lynched as to not have the finger point at them. All the people she's voted for so far I have come out innocent. The only one we do not know of yet is Helios. My guess: anti-town
Helios - Either a very inexperienced player who cba's (cbaing is understandable btw) or scum. They come in like Aphrodite and Eros to vote without much reasoning. Still Helios could be an easy target for mafia like Pere and Hep, they were just cba town who didn't really try to explain, or defend their reasoning. As a result, they were met with their demise. He some how knows how Artemis died, but won't share it. Not something a townie would do.
Hebe - People are all Helios x Nyx, but I find Hebe x Nyx for more intruiging. Hebe defends Nyx loyally. They are obviously on the same side. One could ask which side that would be. Hebe is known for saying things like:
Nyx - Likes to contract on pondering over whether there are two mafia factions. He should be more focused on finding the mafia and not wondering how many there are at the moment.
Tyche - Defending Dionsynus by writing him off as just a "new player" despite other players behaving similarly. Why specifically did Tyche stick her neck out for only Dionsynus? Diosynus has gunned for Pere and Hygelia; both have flipped as town. They also gunned for me giving the ole "I don't know who to vote for so let me cast this random vote". That's all good and well on the first day, but something to consider. I have yet to see Tyche go after someone actually scummy.
My guess: anti-town
Notice the Nyx Helios Tyche voting.
Hestia - Reminds me of Hygelia who I didn't believe was scum. Incidentally they hated each other, or something so probably not the Mason. Hestia has the hots for Hermes. They both want Poseidon gone.
Hebe - People love Helios x Nyx, but I find Hebe x Nyx far more interesting. Hebe defends Nyx like a loyal dog. Case in point...
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I still don't think Nyx should get all the blame
Hermes - Probably not aware of his role, or is he? Har har har He has like Aphrodite been full of gimmicks. He seems to be shaping up and actually helping town, but was definitely not before by voting for people who he got into mild tiffs with. The sudden change, or changes in his behavior is something to consider.Quote:
Why would you want to lynch Nyx?
Hera - Claimed that Apollo is 100 percent the bomb after investigation and probably due to the fact that he hinted it.
Hemera - I believe the bomb squad claim because she did but herself in harms way, but could she be a mafia aligned bomb squad member? Yes, but I doubt she would go through the trouble of lynching one of her own unless she wanted clear herself and Hera. If the Mafia had a hurt locker then it would be some what safe to assume that town would need a similar bomb disarming role.
Keep in mind that the Mafia Hurt Locker was revealed. The mafia would have figured out that there was a bomb with something like the Hurt Locker on their team. They could easily use this to their advantage and claim bomb related roles.
Hades - A little loopy in this game, but voting for a player because you think they're annoying and some how failed to see how the joke role claim was a joke is bad. Hades claims to be an experienced player, so he should know better. Still he has given a lot to go by and drawn a lot of attention to himself on Day 1 in the process.
Dionysus - Comes in to place a seemingly random vote without reason and then says bye. What is is the bull piss?!
Poseidon - Winner of the most likely to be scum award. Earlier he said that he didn't think Hermes was suspicious. This was earlier in the day you see. Now suddenly he is saying that we should watch out for Hermes. He also pointed suspicious towards Apollo, Artemis. This is the second time he's bringing up the Helios and Nyx thing unless I have missed other times. Despite there being more of an obvious correlation between Hebe and Nyx. He has been gun-ho for And has been gun-ho for Hestia this entire game. Hermes is correct in thinking he is suspicious. He tends to
##Vote: Poseidon
I meant concentrate not contract. :lol:
Some people will get that.
I want to point out that LUCK apparently plays a major important for my role. Before he edited his post saying "Nothing happened." after my prevent lynch attempt, Del Zeus said "Today must not be your lucky day, Tyche. :(" hence my ":bou::bou::bou::bou: :(" post. Either that, or I just might as well be naive in my role! :jess:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] HebeTyche: (SPOILER)Has done and said almost nothing, but I found something to object to...
Right here... I see 3 possibilities for this. Either she was joking, and it was not the time to be joking, she is a role that she thought was governor but it isn't, which is helped by the fact that we have roles like Drunk Bus Driver and Sane Insane Cop, or she is mafia trying to make us think either 1 or 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
@ Poseidon: As for why I tried to prevent the lynch, remember, this was before Demeter's vote, I was trying to prevent Hemera's death, if it turns out that she's unable to defuse the bomb.
Besides, I liked Apollo's antick-tocks.
Almost every cop will investigate themself, but what I think from the role is that Shiny did investigate herself, and got the wrong result on only herself. Seems minsmurfed enough...
Eilithyia, why is it protecting her if I disagreed with a bandwagon being put onto her?
Defending to be exact. You have only vehemently opposed people going after Nyx and solely them. You two are together.
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Originally Posted by [M] Hebe
Two people who haven't been particularly suspicious in the scheme of things (yes, I admit I initially voted clumsily.) Since Tyche has also placed a vote for Nyx, I wonder if Helios is mentioning her as a suspect simply to distract from their mafia plot to eliminate Nyx.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
Eros, the mafia member, who had been eliminated earlier. Was it an accident or another tactic by Helios to create the illusion that he is innocent and unaware of the movements of his mafia compadres?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
If my theory of Nyx being a mafia target is correct, she must be innocent. For this reason..
##Unvote: [M] Nyx
##Vote: [M] Helios
(Pretty sure I can do that.. my apologies if I cannot. :) )[/QUOTE][/SPOILER]
Dionysus: (SPOILER)Has done and said nearly nothing. Is inactive. Makes random votes for no real reason.
Eilithyia: (SPOILER)Says and does nothing and is completely useless
Hades: (SPOILER)Makes long, pretty intelligent posts. His arguement against Hermes seemed to be a simple misunderstanding, and I think it was a bluff when he chose to sacrifice himself to lynch the bomb, but I don't suspect him.
Helios: (SPOILER)Has talked a fair bit and hasn't said much. Voted for Nyx for voting for Persephone, while it was her that did it, which has already been said.
Hemera: (SPOILER)Has made a few posts, hasn't really said anything, but made a roleclaim, which I think is true, because of how she tried to have the final vote on the bomb. A town would almost never take that chance, and a mafia certainly wouldn't.
Hera: (SPOILER)Seems to be a smart person that makes useful posts and gives me no reason to suspect her. I do not clear her because of her roleclaim, which she said herself, but I think she is Town based on how she acts
Hermes: (SPOILER)Has made smart posts, seems to be having fun, isn't being all that distracting, and gives me no real reason to suspect him.
Hestia: (SPOILER)Hestia, since I first stated my suspicions on her, has done nothing to make me suspect her more. I am still suspicious of her, but because she hasn't done anything lately to make me suspect her, I would do no more than watch her closely.
Nyx: (SPOILER)Makes fair posts, I don't really have a read on her. Seems to be paying a lot of attention to inactives, but for good reason, I suppose
Poseidon: (SPOILER)Hermes said everything there is to know about him. I don't know what else to add. Looking through his posts don't really say anything, except for what Hermes said
Tyche: (SPOILER)Has done and said almost nothing, but I found something to object to...
Everyone in the post:
Right here... I see 3 possibilities for this. Either she was joking, and it was not the time to be joking, she is a role that she thought was governor but it isn't, which is helped by the fact that we have roles like Drunk Bus Driver and Sane Insane Cop, or she is mafia trying to make us think either 1 or 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
Who I suspect in order now of most to least, with people I don't believe are mafia left out...
Aphrodite
Tyche
Poseidon
Helios
Hestia[/QUOTE]
You claim to be suspicious and wary of with the exclusion of course, Nyx. With Hermes and Hestia you say they are mildly suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hebe
Gah, lemme fix those quotes.
Defending to be exact. You have only vehemently opposed people going after Nyx and solely them. You two are together.
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Originally Posted by [M] Hebe
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Originally Posted by [M] Hebe
You claim to be suspicious and wary of with the exclusion of course, Nyx. With Hermes and Hestia you say they are mildly suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by HebeDionysus: (SPOILER)Has done and said nearly nothing. Is inactive. Makes random votes for no real reason.
Eilithyia: (SPOILER)Says and does nothing and is completely useless
Hades: (SPOILER)Makes long, pretty intelligent posts. His arguement against Hermes seemed to be a simple misunderstanding, and I think it was a bluff when he chose to sacrifice himself to lynch the bomb, but I don't suspect him.
Helios: (SPOILER)Has talked a fair bit and hasn't said much. Voted for Nyx for voting for Persephone, while it was her that did it, which has already been said.
Hemera: (SPOILER)Has made a few posts, hasn't really said anything, but made a roleclaim, which I think is true, because of how she tried to have the final vote on the bomb. A town would almost never take that chance, and a mafia certainly wouldn't.
Hera: (SPOILER)Seems to be a smart person that makes useful posts and gives me no reason to suspect her. I do not clear her because of her roleclaim, which she said herself, but I think she is Town based on how she acts
Hermes: (SPOILER)Has made smart posts, seems to be having fun, isn't being all that distracting, and gives me no real reason to suspect him.
Hestia: (SPOILER)Hestia, since I first stated my suspicions on her, has done nothing to make me suspect her more. I am still suspicious of her, but because she hasn't done anything lately to make me suspect her, I would do no more than watch her closely.
Nyx: (SPOILER)Makes fair posts, I don't really have a read on her. Seems to be paying a lot of attention to inactives, but for good reason, I suppose
Poseidon: (SPOILER)Hermes said everything there is to know about him. I don't know what else to add. Looking through his posts don't really say anything, except for what Hermes said
Tyche: (SPOILER)Has done and said almost nothing, but I found something to object to...
Everyone in the post:
Right here... I see 3 possibilities for this. Either she was joking, and it was not the time to be joking, she is a role that she thought was governor but it isn't, which is helped by the fact that we have roles like Drunk Bus Driver and Sane Insane Cop, or she is mafia trying to make us think either 1 or 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
Who I suspect in order now of most to least, with people I don't believe are mafia left out...
Aphrodite
Tyche
Poseidon
Helios
Hestia
Hey, a replacement. Good stuff. I am also never going to get any sleep tonight. I probably shouldn't respond now (and I am trying hard not to be rude), but this is just wrong:
I said Hermes was not suspicious Day 3. After Artemis died, he became... I guess conditionally suspicious, based solely on Artemis's death (which, objectively, either basically cleared him or convicted him). I understand you had to read through this entire thread, so I don't think you're trying to hard to find something here (if it had been in the same day you would have a point).Quote:
Originally Posted by Eilithyia
I mentioned that Artemis was acting suspiciously for gunning for Hermes almost exclusively and seemingly ignoring everything else sometimes (something Hermes himself mentioned afterward, calling Artemis a possible lyncher targeting him).Quote:
He also pointed suspicious towards Apollo, Artemis.
I brought up "Helios/Nyx" only because I thought one being mafia would all-but exclude the other, based on their voting and consistent arguing. Was I wrong in that regard? That is an anti-link (interestingly enough, Hermes first brought up the link, saying they were suspiciously together; I think it's shown to be the opposite recently). I will admit that your quotes are some evidence of Hebe being suspicious (but such an obvious correlation that no one else pointed it out?), but you seem to be criticizing me for: 1) missing the evidence on Hebe (though I have called Nyx suspicious several times, so if you're right that they're linked, I am pointing out one mafia anyway -- so why is this suspicious?), or more bizarrely 2) the horrible crime of not including them in the same line of my post.Quote:
This is the second time he's bringing up the Helios and Nyx thing unless I have missed other times. Despite there being more of an obvious correlation between Hebe and Nyx.
I will say I think you did an otherwise solid job, considering you presumably just had to read through the entire thread. But I can't help but notice you didn't mention anything about Hades after Day 1, or Nyx before today, or what Artemis's death tells us. Which actually just reminded me of Hades and his change of attitude after Day 1, and his offer to let himself be killed to lynch Apollo. Could that have been a bluff, like we are discussing Tyche's might've been? He has otherwise been much quieter lately. I will have to look back over things sometime tomorrow.
... is that it? Really? You wanted to save someone highly contentious distraction, who others might have just wanted to continue to try to lynch the next day, to try to prevent someone's death who said she could be protected and offered to try? That explanation does not comfort me much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyche
You didn't include this part in your corrected post, and I don't know who this is referring to. Are you talking about Helios or Hebe or Aphrodite (who I think you were quoting in part in your unfixed post)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eilithyia
So... I was defending her only because I disagreed with the bandwagon?
Also, my suspicions on Hestia come from Day 1, if you are trying to say that I am only attacking her because of Nyx.
And I said I do not mildly suspect Hermes...
Thank you for misunderstanding everything. Now I shall go to bed, sooo... yeah...
My bad, you did say that you also don't suspect Hermes. So that adds Nyx and Hermes to your list of people you don't suspect and Hestia to the people you mildly suspect. Noting that.
That doesn't change the fact that although you may have disagreed with what someone was saying you made sure to reiterate it more than once. This seems like defending.
But I digress. There are bigger fish to fry. I say you're right in casting a vote for Poseidon earlier. You're hardly on my high list, but I will consider the extreme possibility of a connection between you in Nyx. Whether this means I think you both are pro-town or anti-town remans to be seen.
Weird, I don't remember saying that quote probably because I didn't. It either got messed up along with other things in the previous post, or the other person responsible before me said it. That quote mix up was a debacle caused by multi-quotes. I intended on just quoting Hebe; hence why I re-posted the corrected version. Back to you being scum and less talking about mucked up multi-quoting.
You're never going to get any sleep tonight because you want to ensure you don't get lynched. This will reveal that you're anti-town and incriminate other people in the process.
Ah yes, after Artemis died. Thank you for reminding me about Artemis. The one who everyone thinks died forever. Unluckily for you, my role entails a certain ability making it possible to revive the dead momentarily. In doing so, I learn what their role entails. I bet you can take two guesses as to who I chose.
Embarrassingly enough I hadn't been reading the tread very thoroughly and apparently the fruity duo didn't either. I went back to read. I am considering, I am analyzing, but more importantly, I am mindsmurfing; and not just myself (hopefully)! Is everyone except Del confused yet?
Atención! I'm feeling more awake now, so here's my take on everyone:
Aphrodite: She's smokin'! I wish I could sink my teeth into that..
Ares: Mmmm. His unkept masculinity makes me go loooooco!
Dionysus: Slurp slurp slurp.
Hades: *Yaaaaay!* My BFF! (How come you haven't commented on my new status??)
Hebe: I don't trust you.
Helios: Smells funny. Mafia.
Hemera: Remind me who that is again...
Hera: Smells like Strawberries.
Hermes: GTFO
Hestia: Pass.
Nyx: I'm pregnant with your baby. NOT THAT YOU CARE! Mafia.
Poseidon: You seem like a harmless old git. JK, you're totes Mafia.
Tyche: I'd like you better if I knew how to pronounce your name.
So, in short: Helios, Nyx and Poseidon must be eliminated. How can I be so sure of their alignments? Let's just say I have some conclusive and reliable inside information at my disposal.
My role has changed daily. In the beginning, I was simply a Star. A Star has no special abilities and is pro-town.
On Day 2 my title changed to Red Giant. Being a Red Giant meant that anyone who investigated me would receive a scum result (unless they were Insane, like Artemis thought she was. Confusing? Absolutely.)
On Day 3 my title changed to Supernova. Being a Supernova meant that anyone that targeted me last night would die. I'm fairly certain Artemis investigated me last night and that's what caused her to die. This is why I think there is only one group left, the rest of the mafia.
Today, my title has changed again. I won't share the specifics but I'll say that I will most likely die tonight. If I do, then it won't make a difference that I didn't tell you my Day 4 role. If I don't, then... I'll elaborate on that tomorrow.
That's all the information I have and this is my last post of the day. My vote for Nyx still stands.
Can you confirm this roleclaim, Eilithyia? I'm not sure as to the specifics of your own roleclaim, but perhaps it could confirm Helios somewhat.
That being said, I don't think Helios is being particularly helpful with that action. While I'm inclined to believe his role is possible, there is something that doesn't add up.
We had a cop role turn up at night, dead, as well as a mason. Two deaths, instead of one. You would, at this point, already have known what your ability would have done to someone who targeted you. Asking this question is pointless, then.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
However, I bit. I was obviously confused as to why there were two deaths, so I started thinking of possibilities. One of them was that the serial killer was a fake, as there was in the last game.
You think he was successful. You think there aren't two dangers now. That's pretty indecisive for someone who had at least a good idea that Artemis's death was because of your role ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
Then of course, I kept talking and drew attention to myself. However, even after you told me to drop the idea, you still prompted me.
I don't know what rationale you had for asking the initial question, but the discussion distracted the town and could have easily been avoided if you posed your own theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
However, if Eilithyia can confirm your role then it eases my suspicions on you. It does not, however, rule out the chance that your role is mafia aligned.
Until then, my vote stands.
By 'that action', I was referring to him making his 'last post of the day'. I later assumed he had to leave for something irl, but forgot to remove that part of my post. Semantics.
I should also point out that I'm not entirely convinced Eilithyia's roleclaim is truth either. But my instinct says that they can't both be lying.
It's pretty empty in here, I wonder if there's an echo?
Heh. You watch, I'll be completely focused on my assessment again and people will show up to talk.
Night 1 - 3 deaths (Two were tied together) 1 kill (double) and the 1 kill
Night 2 - 2 deaths (one ended up being the Mafia Hurt Locker) 1 kill and 1 kill
Serial Killer gets lynched
Night 3 - 2 deaths 1 kill and 1 kill
It's been consistent that there are essentially two targets every night. It seems to have nothing to do with the serial killer. Helios explains this second death despite the absence of the serial killer. They say they are certain that Artemis targeted them last night, however, I am inclined to believe that this wasn't the case. And since the other player was the Mason, due to the nature of that role I doubt they would have any reason to target you during the night either. Then again, traditional roles aren't always what they appear to be in this game. MINDSMURF Still, I say I call Hera and Helios out, there are two killing factions and they are responsible for the deaths from night 1 to night 3.
That's all good and well except you're forgetting the part where Hemera made it clear that she could only be protected "sometimes". There was a slight chance that she could die even if she does have the bomb proof ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poseidon
Excuse, serial didn't get lynched they sploded.
Eilithyia: Better someone with a chance of surviving than no chance, no? Just saying.
Has anyone considered the fact that the game is mindsmurf in name only? The real mindsmurf being we all bust our asses trying to analyze this game.
...smurf I missed a lot. Be back with a post after I sift through everything.
That's a good point, brother, and I was confused by it all as well, but Artemis was all up in my :bou::bou::bou::bou: on Day 2. When she could've only carried out only one investigation. I am going to assume it was on me and came up innocent, and as she thought she was insane, thought that meant I was a real bad guy, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Poseidon
Also, brother, I've noticed you doing that thing you do with me. Where you say I could well be almost certainly mafia...although I could also be definitely town.Why are you going into "what if me and Hermes were both mafia?" exactly, brother? We're not both mafia and you know that. If you're mafia, well, the lack of me and my Hermesmaniacs in your forum would be a big giveaway. And if you're town then you're town!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Poseidon
You crazy, son. You loco. And there's only one way to deal with crazy people as far as I am concerned.
WHATCHOO GONNA DO WHEN HERMESMANIA RUNS WILD ON YOU?
##LEG DROP: POSEIDON
Called it. We have roughly 3 and a half hours left by my count. I want to sleep but that noose is frighteningly close and there's new posts to examine!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
Lot's and lot's of things. To say; first off I've been looking all over for Eilithyia's roleclaim and I can't pinpoint it, what did he/she/it claim?
Lots of thoughts:
Eilithyia: Never appeared the entire game, suddenly very, very active. You cannot make this strike just "go away" sadly Eilithyia, I'll have a careful eye on you.
Helios: Interesting roleclaim, because it will never do the same thing and never force you to adhere to any guidelines (thus never making you confirmable).
Hebe: I've had a funny feeling about you since day one, but I never did anything about it because I knew that I didn't have enough to compel a vote on you more than just a feeling. However let's analyze you in some depth.
Every vote Hebe has made (discounting day 0).
Day One Vote(s): Hestia
Day Two Vote(s): Persephone
Day Three Vote(s): Poseidon
Notice something there? Hebe has voted ONCE each day and always for someone who had an established argument against them. Not once has Hebe brought up an accusation that is new, moreso she's sat fence on anyone who wasn't in the spotlight at the time! She may as well copy and paste her thoughts each day, "I don't have a read on this person." Why the smurf not? Either you think they're scum or you don't. I'll tell you why, because taking a stance is difficult for scum. It gives the town breadcrumbs to follow if you die. We can analyze who you found suspicious which is why the first active mafia that goes can unravel the entire organization.
Poseidon: Still find you susipicious for previously stated reasons *USE THE SEARCH-BAR IF YOU CARE*, however Hebe did vote for you yesterday. This could be a "throwaway" vote to throw us off track. We shall see.
##vote: Hebe
OH FINE. PLAY THE "HESTIA'S BACK WHICH MEANS I SHALL LEAVE" GAME. I'LL FIND ALL THE MAFIA, WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS!
Don't know exactly. My guess is that Eilithyia is able to see the targets (and results) of night actions belonging to the person s/he temp "raises".Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hestia
However, it's not a roleclaim easily confirmed and
this isn't exactly supporting the claim either. Though in a post I missed earlier, Eilithyia seems far more confident in his/her knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
S/he is certain I'm scum though, so you'd better ask for more information about the role, Hestia :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
Votecout
Nyx (2) - Helios, Hera
Helios (2) - Nyx, Aphrodite
Hades (2) - Tyche, (self-vote)
Poseidon (2) - Hermes, Eilithyia
Hebe (2) - Hestia, (self-vote)
Aphrodite (1) - Poseidon
Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera
Day 4 ends in about 3 hours.
Now let's talk about other things. Eilithyia has come in and is very focused on finding scum. I like that. That's a good direction and we should all take it, dudes.
As I said earlier, the "who is killing who" argument achieves nothing after a certain point, and I'm going to start looking at people who use it as making filler posts. Yes, there's more than one person or faction out there with the power to kill. The fact is, we don't smurfing know. What we do know, brothers, is that there is a mafia, and it is very likely that they are the most powerful of the killing factions, and time spent going round in circles about who is killing who can be better spent making cases against people.
As there is obviously more than one mafia, as I said previously, it would be churlish to focus on one and then that would be it. Poseidon is my #1 and unless there is some earth-shattering revelation today, I'm sticking with him and there is nothing that can shake me off that path.
But let's look to the future of the game. Right now I am thinking of Dionysus and Hades.
How long are we going to allow Dionysus to carry on playing the way he has been? Staying very very low, under the radar, coming in and doing just enough to both not be replaced, and not self-vote. Something's not god damn right there, brothers.
Something about Hades sticks in my throat as well. Vanilla claims always irk me, particularly when the person making them is not under threat. He said he did it to prove that he had nothing to lose, and thus the best candidate to take the bomb - no, you are not the best candidate to take the bomb. Hemera aside, the smurfing mafia are the best candidates to take the bomb! Or the serial killer, ha ha ha. He seemed to think there was a very good chance Apollo was the bomb...so he was happy to apparently risk two townspeople in one fell swoop? I'm not buying that.Can literally never think of a time when the bomb has been neutral in a game of EoFF mafia, or any other non-EoFF game of mafia I have seen. And even if it is neutral, so what? It doesn't have the town's interests at heart? Alright, brother, but you know who has them even less at heart? The mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hades
I don't like this one bit. "If the town want it" is a cop out, especially from someone who had said they were sticking to their guns previously. If you are town, then it should not matter what "the town" wants, as "the town" is tainted by members of the mafia. Trust yourself more than you trust others, as you know you have not been compromised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hades
I don't know what to make of Hades's "Don't worry kids, I got experience!" line, though. It's a key part of his personality, and perhaps the key to the Hades puzzle once and for all! It's something he's kind of hinted at a few times, so there's obviously some plan behind that. I can't quite figure out what he hopes to achieve by mentioning it, though (I have ideas, but nothing concrete and worth mentioning) so I'm throwing it open to interpretation.
Sorry for those of you complaining about a lack of posting. It took a while to type all this up and read through the thread. :shobon: Remember, kids, to follow my three demandments: training, saying prayers, and eating vitamins!
Also have been paying attention to other people's theories, brothers, but I'm not really going to go through each and every single theory and reply "yay" or "nay". So if you want to ask me about what I think of your idea, go for it, and I'll see what I can do.
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I'll comment on yours if you comment on mine.
Ok, one more post for now. One of these days when I don’t have to catch up on a ton of stuff I’ll make a short post again.
I think my typical borderline-insomnia and obsessive nature is a more likely explanation. :p That could work too, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eilithyia
Good, that would, at the least, clear or convict Hermes, right? That’s what I just said we should try to do.Quote:
The one who everyone thinks died forever. Unluckily for you, my role entails a certain ability making it possible to revive the dead momentarily. In doing so, I learn what their role entails. I bet you can take two guesses as to who I chose.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermes regarding my questioning Artemis’s death
So you concede I made a good point wondering about Artemis … but then say I was wrong for pointing out the consequences of what Artemis had done. You also don’t even try to criticize the substance of my statement (which you notably didn’t do for the first post of mine you pointed out, either): wouldn’t Artemis having investigated herself Night 1 do just that? Isn’t you possibly being determined one way or another exactly why Artemis’s death is notable? This point of yours is beyond a stretch and even contradicts yourself in the same post. “This was worth questioning… but don’t you DARE post why!” Sorry for actually explaining my post thoroughly. It's a compulsion of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermes right after
Looking back now, the majority of Artemis’s posts Day 2 seem to just be general suspicion about your “biker gang” and the people joining up with or defending you (See: here and here). The one post I found which would lead me to believe she had investigated you Night 1 is this post, which is very definitively “Hermes is scum.” Which is pretty strong evidence, now that I think about it, as she wouldn't want a potentially false suspicion misleading us down the line. So I have to think she did investigate Hermes Night 1, and given her role probably got an “Innocent” result and misinterpreted it. Is there anything wrong with my reasoning there?
I really need to try to go back to sleep (though I will just fail and end up lying in bed for an hour BUT THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT), but I will try to explain myself in my usual rambling verbosity. My role is a “Professional Mind Reader.” Each night I can look into one person’s thoughts and see where their ultimate loyalties lie, whether with a specific group or “selfishly” with themselves (which apparently means stuff like jester or serial killer). Unfortunately I think my actual results are random.
Night 1 I investigated (or looked into the recesses of their mind) Hestia (who I was suspicious of Day 1), result: Mafia. I continued posting my suspicion of Hestia on Day 2. Night 2 I realized that I should have investigated myself (which is why I thought of this issue for Artemis), result: Selfish. This is where I had no idea about the worth of my results, and note that I scaled back my attacks on Hestia. I thought for a little bit my results may just be a wrong result (like Insane – a term I learned or at least relearned after looking up Artemis’s role), but I started thinking that’s unlikely, and especially after Artemis’s death I think that’s highly unlikely. Plus, having two powerful investigative roles with useful results seems too much. So I have since concluded my results are probably just random. Night 3, I investigated Helios, someone else I had strongly suspected (though with less expectations now), result: Selfish. I’m not sure why I’m alive, unless Helios is lying. Helios’s roleclaim is almost too absurd to doubt, but either he’s lying or something weird happened. If he is telling the truth, the best I can come up with right now is that someone else’s role interfered, either actively or passively, with me dying, possibly resulting in one of the deaths last night (redirecting my death to them? Protecting me at their expense?). The other one was then killed by the mafia. I guess that’s plausible.
Helios’s roleclaim has the benefit of explaining the two deaths without an even more convoluted explanation (a new killing faction). Though that makes me being alive require a rather convoluted explanation itself.
Aphrodite is still a main suspect of mine, so I’ll leave my vote on her. The points by some that Dionysus has acted just as bad, if not worse, are well-taken. I would be willing to change my vote to her.
Sorry for the stream-of-consciousness post; if none of that makes any sense I can try to explain myself when I get up.
Translation of revelation, either Poseidon or Helios is lying about his claim.
Eilithyia's posts support Helios as the liar. However, Eilithyia's posts are also somewhat confusing. How does one go from having comprehensive evidence to being inclined to believe? That doesn't add up.
Here are the posts I was referencing just before.
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Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
Breaking down the roleclaim:
Convenient, unconfirmable.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Poseidon
Copy and paste above convenience.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Poseidon
This is where this claim begins to NOT make sense for a mafioso! Why would you specifically target someone knowing it hurts your claim. To get the other person lynched, maybe, but not now. I don't believe we are at endgame. With 14 people left, even if 2 die, it would take 6 people to be in the mafia for the game to already be over! With a mafioso already being dead, they would've started with seven. Far too large. So this isn't an endgame "convince town to kill other person so mafia can win the game" claim. This is legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Poseidon
##unvote: Hebe
##vote: Helios
Well now you're just twisting my words, brother. I said her reaction to me and her subsequent revelation as the sane/insane cop was a good point to bring up. I never said your beliefs regarding said point - if you even had any - were true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Po Psy Don
Nope. Spot on. Agreed. That's not the issue. You were floating around again. Maybe Hermes is scum but then again maybe he is actually definitely town. Now you're saying that I'm innocent and that I can get behind. Not because I want to be seen as innocent (although that helps! :p) but because you seem to prefer one option over the other, rather than being wishy-washy. Do you understand where I am coming from, brother?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poseidon
My personal take on it is this: I think she investigated me Night 1. Maybe she investigated herself on Night 2, figured out her sanity and that's why she cooled off on me the next day.
Anyway, your "Selfish" role is interesting. If you are being truthful, perhaps it shows where people's night actions are going. Eg if Hestia is mafia, Hestia is acting as a Mafia member at night. You investigated yourself, thus you are selfish as you are only concerned with yourself. Helios's star claim, though, I don't know what to make of with regards to it being "selfish".
Oh wait, didn't seethis bit. Disregard my thoughts. :shobon:Quote:
Each night I can look into one person’s thoughts and see where their ultimate loyalties lie, whether with a specific group or “selfishly” with themselves (which apparently means stuff like jester or serial killer)
Hestia your unvote can't happen because you were the last to vote.
Guess I should've read this days rules all the way through. Pretend that last unvote never happened. But Helios is still a liar in my book.
If Hermes unvotes, then votes for Helios, I can unvote and vote for Poseidon. That frees Hestia up to actually have her vote counted where she wants it.
Do you agree, Hermes?
Why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
##unvote
##vote Helios
Nothin' personal big H.
##Unvote
##Vote: Poseidon
##unvote: Hebe
##vote: Helios
:thumb:
I agree with your assessment of Dionysus and Aphrodite. For sometime I've also believed Tyche was behaving pretty scummily, but her attempt to save the Apollo lynch was based on one of two things. 1) She is town aligned and didn't want to lose anyone pro-town, (Hemera) or 2) She is scum and wanted to appear as town aligned so she used her ability. I'm still very divided on which of these I believe. (Tyche, was your attempt at prevention a one shot or not?)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
Also, did I say something misleading and claim I am super experienced? All I remember saying is I've played as scum before. I've played 2 previous EoFF mafia games, and in the second one I dropped out. xD
Eilithyia either has some kind of insanity/is being played by 2 people with different objectives/some other kind of mindsmurf. Avast.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
Whoaaaaa. I think this claim is believable, because Del Zeus is that kinda guy... but we could also have a very, very inventive scum. If the latter, I salute you but hope you die. Not enough to be convinced to vote for you, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
As I said, I don't remember insinuating I had tons of experience, I just said I'd played as mafia before. So... yeah, no key to the puzzle here, xD. No real puzzle, in fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hermes
Furthermore, I was afraid that this argument would be used against me as soon as Hemera claimed bombsquad and offered to take the lynch vote. I was right that someone would latch on to that, which is why I was hesitant to go forward with it.
At any rate, now time for more investigation of my top 3 suspects.
Just noticing this post you made. As you've previously said, this is just semantics. Think about it like this, his conclusive and reliable evidence of who Artemis targeted makes him inclined to believe that Artemis did not target Helios.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] NyxHere are the posts I was referencing just before.
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Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Eilithyia
You're probably right with that Hestia. I just thought the contrast in confidence was a bit strange.
Votecout
Helios (3) -Nyx, Aphrodite, Hermes, Hestia
Nyx (2) - Helios, Hera
Poseidon (2) -Hermes, Eilithyia, Nyx
Hades (2) - Tyche, (self-vote)
Aphrodite (1) - Poseidon
Hebe (1) -Hestia, (self-vote)
Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera
Day 4 ends in about 1 hour.
You got it brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hestia
YouTube - wCw nWo Theme
As far as I'm concerned, all this crap in your post represents the mafia players out here. For two years, brother, for two years, I held my head high, I did everything for the kids, I was the perfect townie. The reception I got when I came out here... you mafia players can stick it, brother, because if it wasn't for me, you people wouldn't be here. If it wasn't for me, Del Murder would still be making snide remarks in the Feedback Forum, and if it wasn't for me, all these Johnny-Come-Latelys that you see out here playing mafia wouldn't be here. I was dominating mafia game after mafia game, brother, while you were stealing gas to put in the car to get to high school, so the way that it is now, brother, whatcha gonna do when Hollywood Hermes and the New World Order runs wild on you? Whatcha gonna do?
##Leg Drop Hestia
I meant comment on my genitals.
##unvote
##vote: Hestia
Shove it, brother. You're as poor at comebacks as you are at mafia. Get out of my sight.
http://images.damncrows.com/img/upld/stone-cold.gif
Sounds like someones cruisin' for a Hestia stunner bruisin'.
Unfortunately, Stone Cold, I am not your wife and thus you can't beat me.
Man I actually slept! And almost missed my meeting! Ok, now.
Anyway, some weird scenarios went through my head as I tried to judge Helios. I think he is probably lying, and even though I still really want to know about Aphrodite, I think that is the most informative lynch for today.
##Unvote
##Vote: Helios
Argh. Today is a hard day, because I know my vote isn't going to make a difference. I don't think Helios is scum because I don't think anyone is creative enough to come up with that phases of a star stuff on the fly. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't vote for him anyway... and I don't want to self vote. Aphrodite is still suspicious to me. So.
##vote: Aphrodite
I think you've got me confused for some other guy. WHAT? I'm gonna kick your ass. WHAT? And that's the bottom line, because Hestia smurfing says so.
http://www.cybercomicsandtoys.com/co...ds/austin3.gif
Ooh, I just love it when people take an interest in me! :jess:
So now you've added fat old cowboys to the list of people you can beat up. Let me recap it for you, brother:
Hestia 3:16's list of people he can beat up:
Women
Fat old cowboys
You're nothing, brother. You're exactly the kind of trash I want eliminated from mafia forever.
All I taste is the sweet, sweet taste of victory.
http://www.ericmetaxas.com/wp-conten...dSkullBeer.jpg
WOOOOOOOOOOO :confused:
And sperm. Goat sperm.
You run around talking a lot of trash, about what you're gonna do and you're a real badass. But let me tell you somethin'. I've been to the top of the mountain. I've walked through the valley of the shadow of death, dude. I've got the largest pythons in the world, brother.
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Whatchoo gonna do?
Votecout
Helios (3) -Nyx, Aphrodite,Hermes, Hestia, Poseidon
Nyx (2) - Helios, Hera
Poseidon (2) -Hermes, Eilithyia, Nyx
Hades (1) - Tyche
Aphrodite (1) -Poseidon, Hades
Hestia (1) - Hermes
Hebe (1) -Hestia, (self-vote)
Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Hebe, Hemera
Day 4 ends in about 15 minutes.
##unvote
##vote: Poseidon
I got two words for ya.
(hulk rules)
Hulkmes you're a washed up, has been, never was, never will be. And tonight at Mafiamania I will put you through the noose.
CAN I GET A HELL YEAH?
No.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for our Main Event of the evening. In this corner, from Venice Beach California, HOLLYWOOD HULK HERMES! And in this corner, from Parts Unknown, DIAMOND DALLAS POSEIDON!
The bell rings and the two superstars do battle in the squared circle. It looks like Poseidon has the advantage, but all of a sudden Hermes HULKS UP. Nothing can faze him! BIG BOOT! BIG BOOT! BIG BOOT! And here comes the Leg Drop! Poseidon is done for! Hermes applies the cover. 1…2…KICK OUT. Hermes is stunned! No one kicks out of the Leg Drop! Then…DIAMOND CUTTER OUT OF NO WHERE! This is it folks! But wait, who's coming down the aisle? It's The Eilithyiataker! Poseidon has a look of horror! Eilithyia enters the ring and...TOMBSTONE! TOMBSTONE! TOMBSTONE! She drapes Hermes's arm over Poseidon. I can't believe it's going to end like this folks...1...2...3! It's over!
Poseidon was a Mafia Ninja / Lynchee, played by Raistlin & Clo. Thanks for playing!
Eilithyia was a Vanilla Town / Lyncher, played by Marshall Banana & Necronopticous (who made all of 1 post), later replaced by Shiny.
Final Day 4 Votecout
Poseidon (3) -Hermes, Eilithyia, Nyx, Hermes
Helios (2) -Nyx, Aphrodite,Hermes, Hestia, Poseidon
Nyx (2) - Helios, Hera
Hades (1) - Tyche
Aphrodite (1) -Poseidon, Hades
Hebe (1) -Hestia, (self-vote)
Hestia (0) -Hermes
Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Hebe, Hemera
Night 4 starts now and ends in 24 hours or when all night actions are in. Get those actions in!
Mount Olympus awoke to find everybody dead. Or nobody. One of those. I guess it was nobody.
Zeus appeared in a flash of lightning. "My children, today must be quick, for I have other things to do. Someone had the gall to sacrifice their second fattest goat to me instead of their fattest. So I need to go curse their family, and then figure out what form I will take when I impregnate their daughter. I'm thinking Venetian blinds. Anyway, time is short so let's make this one quick. I'm sure you know who all the scum are by now anyway." And then he was gone.
Game Info:
Welcome to the Speedlynch Round! Pay close attention to this because it's important. Today it only takes 2 votes to lynch. That's right, the first person to get two votes will cause the day to end and they will be lynched. The rule of non-votes counting against yourself will not be in effect today. Good luck with this one guys!
Day ends in 24 hours or when a lynch takes place. On Speedlynch Day it only takes 2 votes for a lynch.
Helios, you said yesterday you would elaborate if you survived. Please do!
Eilithyia was utterly convinced that Helios was scum, and due to the fact Shiny was also Artemis, I'd say that she knew she didn't target Helios.
However, I want to hear what Helios has to say about his role. I think it had something to do with why there were no deaths last night.
I'll leave my vote off him for now, I don't want a speedlynch to happen before any discussion takes place.
Though I think I can guess what happened.
Two votes for a lynch? Wow, I guess we'll have to think hard about who to vote for or we'll have an unfair lynching on our hands! I hope we get the right person, or you know, I might have to prevent another lynching today.
Anyway, I happened to have missed the most of yesterday's discussion regarding Helios and missed the match with the amazing Hollywood Hulk Hermes! :jess: Anyway, I think that Helios's role is plausible. On the previous night, our cop, who perhaps investigated him, ended up dead, just as his role had stated, and the other killed, most likely the scums' doing. However, last night, we ended up with no deaths This means good fortune is shining down upon the town! :bigsmile:
Anyhoo, has anyone heard from Ares lately? He's been awfully quiet as of lately. This is a little disturbing and this could also mean terrible things if we don't find out something soon!
You know, Ares hasn't even made a single post! I'm surprised he managed to survive this long.
Well the lack of killing tells me it's not James Bond with an Extreme Jawache.
I nominate we throw down some ground rules. I nominate no voting for the first 12 hours. This will prevent any accidental (or purposeful) speed-lynches.
I agree. It's nearly 2AM where I am and I likely won't be waking up until noon.
This part honestly baffles me. I thought that if a town role with a night action died that night that they would have targeted me, especially since there were two deaths and one was a player with no night action. It made it much more likely to me that that's what happened. You're making me second guess myself. Stop it! xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
I hate using out-of-game reasoning or meta-game thinking (whatever you want to call it) like this to come to a conclusion.
You're very right. Two things could have happened last night from what I understand. Either I was going to be the only to die or no one would die. Essentially, I was a Lightning Rod yesterday. My actual title was Black Hole. All night actions yesterday were to be directed at me no matter what! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
Super yes. Ares, if you're not active today and talking about something or somebody, I'm liable to vote for you later. I also agree with giving everyone at least 12 hours for thinking and discussion before voting.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Tyche
I meant to X-quote this in my above post! Was this what you thought happened? :choc:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hera
This is very plausible. I'm tempted to believe you. But still, why the hell was Artemis/Eilithyia so adamant you were scum? Of course, I'm confident she can get it wrong, because I'm also in the list of definite scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Helios
At running the risk of reigniting this mirror discussion, I agree with Helios (and Tyche). Ares is fishy. He has been all game. There's a reason that Eilithyia was replaced rather than Ares. Something isn't right there, and I think I will vote for him once our deadline is up (assuming Helios hasn't already -- I'd prefer we get our full 24 hours discussion).
The next person on my list is probably Hades, but there's nothing really solid against him yet. Just that play with trying to take the bomb lynch didn't sit well with me. It was too convenient.
I might not be back for a few hours, life business.
I don't know what's up with that but I don't remember Artemis ever going after me. I'll have to go back through and check her posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
Wouldn't really say fishy. Nonexistant, maybe! Come out come out.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Nyx
I'll also be gone for a bit but when I come back, I'll reread the thread and see if I can pick up on anything else.
Wait, Ares wasn't replaced? I should have paid more attention to that. Why hasn't this been a bigger issue until now?
Speed lynch day huh? Del Zeus has out done himself again!
I read through the entire thread again to try to get some clarity on as to who to suspect. In typical mindsmurf fashion we are locked in a 3 way dance (might as well keep with the wrestling references:p) Town vs Mafia vs Masons.
The 2 night kills each night seemed to be explained when Apollo exploded taking the serial killer with him to the underworld. But alas, the following day we awake to find 2 dead once again.
This leads me too believe 1 of 2 things:
1. The masons possess a night kill power similar to what the mafia does in every game of mafia.
or
2a. The 1st serial killer was in fact only a wannabe & a 2nd serial killer is out there.
2b. I'm also flirting with the possibility that the 2nd serial killer may have been recruited by either the mafia or the masons.
Everything I've just said taken into account, why was there no night kill last night? Is this yet another element of this mindsmurf or did either side (that's mafia & masons) simply decide not to kill anyone Night 4!
As regards who I think we should lynch, I agree with Hestia no voting for 12 hours (more like 5 hours now though!) until everyone can have a proper think.
Clarification as to whether Ares needs to be replaced would be a big help, although unlikely we'll get it, mindsmurf and all that.
Aside from that I'm honestly lost on who too lynch :(
My mind is tired of being smurfed. o_o
Presumably Ares hasn't been replaced because he's been active during the Night Phase. That seems to suggest his silence during the day is a strategy.. but very rarely do innocents make the conscious decision to slip under the radar. Hmmm..
I'm glad we've decided to wait. At this point, I think the consensus is 'omgwtfbbq'.
I am The Lone Voice of Sanity in This Town of smurfing Nutters
"Don't lynch until the end" is an utterly terrible plan. There is a very large gaping hole right in the middle of it and I sure as smurf am not going to tell you what it is.
Now, please, somebody else join me in this before it is too late.
##vote: Ares
If you trust in me, as you bloody well should after the job I did on Poseidon, vote Ares. And I will explain tomorrow.
I hate to say this but, despite the bang up job you did getting Poseidon lynched, whats to say your not a mason?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hermes
:bou::bou::bou::bou: :bou::bou::bou::bou: :bou::bou::bou::bou:
HE'S BEEN COMPROMISED
GUYS THIS IS NOTA DRILL
EMERGENCY
EMERGENCY
THIS IS A SERIOUS ALERT
SOMEONE VOTE
smurf THIS COULD ALL END SO BADLY OH HELP WHERE IS GORDONBROKO WHEN YOU NEED HIM!?!!?!?!?!?!??!
Convince me & I'll cast the vote!
NEVER
YOU'RE THE PIRATE
THE FLY IN THE OINTMENT
OFHF GODODO HEEPLP HELP
GOLDENBOKRO GOLDEBBORKJO HELPPPPP WHERE IS GOLDENBOK OJ NEED HIM
I NEED HIM NOW
THIS IS SO SERIOUS THE END OF THE TOWN IS RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW smurfING HELL WHY HAS NOBODY ELSE SEEN THIS I HATE YOU ALL
SSSSTOGLDNEIBKOKO!!!!!!!!
GODLEN FUCIFNF BOKO IYOU FUOU DONS FUMITOEHERsmurfING :bou::bou::bou::bou:R AHFHJKSD
Your acting mental, which means you may be doing it to make me lynch an innocent townie and hand the win to the masons or the mafia.
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!!! YOU SCOUNDREL!
I DONT CARE IF ARES IS INNOCENT
I DONT CARE
THERE IS SOMETHING MUCH BIGGER AT STAKE HERE
CANT YOU SEE
ARE YOU REALLY THAT BLIND???
ALL OF YOU????
WHY DID GOLDENBOKO NOT SEE THIS
GOLDENBOKO YOU smurf
YOU UTTER smurfING smurf
I WILL GET YOU FOR THIS GOLDENBOKO!!!!!! :argh:
What are you on:p
I agree with Hermes. Ares must die. I will break the rule I self-imposed because it's already been broken by Hermes.
Btw Dionysus, I don't trust you. Masons are good guys fool.
For great justice.
##vote Ares
ahhhh
hestia
thank god
I about :bou::bou::bou::bou:ted all over my chair
Forget everything Dionysus has done before this day for Del Zeus made a substitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hestia
If masons are left when all scum are gone they win & given all that's been sacrificed up until now, I want town to get the ultimate victory!
So basically what you're saying is that you are the mason.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Dionysus
hahaha I wish then I would have a better clue as to what is going on:pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] HermesSo basically what you're saying is that you are the mason.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Dionysus
Your current actions make me not trust you fool! Turning the town against Masons? That would cause us to mindsmurf ourselves.
Now the day is over. SHUT THE smurf UP.
Wow your the cheery sort, bring on Day 6;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Hestia
For five days the gods had been waging war, except one. Ares, god of war himself, sat back and watched it all. He was the puppetmaster, he was invincible, he was war itself.
Eventually the gods realized something was up with this guy and turned on him. But with his powerful armor he was invulnerable, and nothing they threw at him would work. As he stood there, laughing at them, Dionysus saw the clothing label on his great armor: Designed by Achilles Kline. He thought fast, shattered the wine bottle he was holding, and tossed it to the fleet-footed Hermes. Hermes snuck up behind the taunting god and poked him gently in the heel. Ares fell over dead.
Ares was a Reincarnated Serial Killer, played by Timekeeper.
Night 5 begins now and it's the usual deal. Get those actions in so we can start up again.
Day broke and it was once again time for Helios to bring the sun forth with his chariot. It was a tough job, that sun was hotter than Mexico in July, but someone had to do it. Today was going to be a particularly hot day, he could feel, so he decided to stop off on an island to get a drink. He stumbled upon a dark cave which he mistook for a convienence store. Looking around for the sports drinks he tripped and fell on something big. He felt around in the darkness (he should have brought the sun with him!) and felt a giant globe. Then the globe blinked. It was the Cyclops's cave! Helios made a break for it but it was too late and the Cyclops ate him.
Helios was a Black Hole, played by oddler. Thanks for playing!
This time Agamemnon's ship appeared in the port, for he had a message from Zeus. "During the Trojan war, we won by striking hard and fast, without taking pointless time to figure out who your enemy was and why you were fighting them. Kill them all I say! So great father Zeus decrees that you must do the same today."
Game info:
Welcome to the ultimate mindsmurf voting day. Today you may vote for as many players as you wish. Everyone will start with a vote on every player, including themselves. You must then unvote the players you do not wish to see lynched. There are some catches. You cannot vote or unvote more than once in a post, and after you cast a vote or unvote you cannot do so again until someone else posts.
Should be a crazy day! Day 6 ends in 24 hours (no majority lynch today). There are 10 players remaining.
Votecount
Aphrodite (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Dionysus (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Hades (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Hebe (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Hemera (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Hera (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Hermes (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Hestia (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Nyx (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Tyche (10) - Aphrodite, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Nyx, Tyche
Hello. I Quina.
##unvote: Hermes
Well at least I can get something useful from my night result now ._.
##Unvote: Hera
Oh, dammit.
##Unvote: Hemera
Also yes, dead Helios, my guess was right. Given that you thought you were going to die and that my investigation went straight to you, it was fairly obvious what was going on.