Mindsmurf Mafia - GAME OVER - Town Win - The Triple H gods are the heroes!

[[M] D'Anna]

Guess I should've read this days rules all the way through. Pretend that last unvote never happened. But Helios is still a liar in my book.

[[M] Athena]

If Hermes unvotes, then votes for Helios, I can unvote and vote for Poseidon. That frees Hestia up to actually have her vote counted where she wants it.

Do you agree, Hermes?

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

If Hermes unvotes, then votes for Helios, I can unvote and vote for Poseidon. That frees Hestia up to actually have her vote counted where she wants it.

Do you agree, Hermes?

Why not.

##unvote
##vote Helios

Nothin' personal big H.

[[M] Athena]

##Unvote
##Vote: Poseidon

[[M] D'Anna]

##unvote: Hebe
##vote: Helios

[[M] Apollo]

To keep track:

Aphrodite - Is very gimmicky. Day 0 were we all apparently not told our roles so one can conclude that this gimmick is not a part of Aphrodite's role and in fact some sort of technique to make them appear less intimidating. She latches on to completely random votes without any reason. Just look at the one she just put. They post just enough to avoid suspicion of inaction, yet enough to incriminate themselves. They also tend to go for players that aren't currently about to get lynched as to not have the finger point at them. All the people she's voted for so far I have come out innocent. The only one we do not know of yet is Helios. My guess: anti-town

Tyche - Defending Dionsynus by writing him off as just a "new player" despite other players behaving similarly. Why specifically did Tyche stick her neck out for only Dionsynus? Diosynus has gunned for Pere and Hygelia; both have flipped as town. They also gunned for me giving the ole "I don't know who to vote for so let me cast this random vote". That's all good and well on the first day, but something to consider. I have yet to see Tyche go after someone actually scummy.
My guess: anti-town

Hades - A little loopy in this game, but voting for a player because you think they're annoying and some how failed to see how the joke role claim was a joke is bad. Hades claims to be an experienced player, so he should know better. Still he has given a lot to go by and drawn a lot of attention to himself on Day 1 in the process.

Dionysus - Comes in to place a seemingly random vote without reason and then says bye. What is is the bull piss?!

I agree with your assessment of Dionysus and Aphrodite. For sometime I've also believed Tyche was behaving pretty scummily, but her attempt to save the Apollo lynch was based on one of two things. 1) She is town aligned and didn't want to lose anyone pro-town, (Hemera) or 2) She is scum and wanted to appear as town aligned so she used her ability. I'm still very divided on which of these I believe. (Tyche, was your attempt at prevention a one shot or not?)

Also, did I say something misleading and claim I am super experienced? All I remember saying is I've played as scum before. I've played 2 previous EoFF mafia games, and in the second one I dropped out. xD

Atención! I'm feeling more awake now, so here's my take on everyone:

Aphrodite: She's smokin'! I wish I could sink my teeth into that..
Ares: Mmmm. His unkept masculinity makes me go loooooco!
Dionysus: Slurp slurp slurp.
Hades: *Yaaaaay!* My BFF! (How come you haven't commented on my new status??)
Hebe: I don't trust you.
Helios: Smells funny. Mafia.
Hemera: Remind me who that is again...
Hera: Smells like Strawberries.
Hermes: GTFO
Hestia: Pass.
Nyx: I'm pregnant with your baby. NOT THAT YOU CARE! Mafia.
Poseidon: You seem like a harmless old git. JK, you're totes Mafia.
Tyche: I'd like you better if I knew how to pronounce your name.

So, in short: Helios, Nyx and Poseidon must be eliminated. How can I be so sure of their alignments? Let's just say I have some conclusive and reliable inside information at my disposal.

Eilithyia either has some kind of insanity/is being played by 2 people with different objectives/some other kind of mindsmurf. Avast.

My role has changed daily. In the beginning, I was simply a Star. A Star has no special abilities and is pro-town.

On Day 2 my title changed to Red Giant. Being a Red Giant meant that anyone who investigated me would receive a scum result (unless they were Insane, like Artemis thought she was. Confusing? Absolutely.)

On Day 3 my title changed to Supernova. Being a Supernova meant that anyone that targeted me last night would die. I'm fairly certain Artemis investigated me last night and that's what caused her to die. This is why I think there is only one group left, the rest of the mafia.

Today, my title has changed again. I won't share the specifics but I'll say that I will most likely die tonight. If I do, then it won't make a difference that I didn't tell you my Day 4 role. If I don't, then... I'll elaborate on that tomorrow.

That's all the information I have and this is my last post of the day. My vote for Nyx still stands.

Whoaaaaa. I think this claim is believable, because Del Zeus is that kinda guy... but we could also have a very, very inventive scum. If the latter, I salute you but hope you die. Not enough to be convinced to vote for you, though.

Now let's talk about other things. Eilithyia has come in and is very focused on finding scum. I like that. That's a good direction and we should all take it, dudes.

As I said earlier, the "who is killing who" argument achieves nothing after a certain point, and I'm going to start looking at people who use it as making filler posts. Yes, there's more than one person or faction out there with the power to kill. The fact is, we don't smurfing know. What we do know, brothers, is that there is a mafia, and it is very likely that they are the most powerful of the killing factions, and time spent going round in circles about who is killing who can be better spent making cases against people.

As there is obviously more than one mafia, as I said previously, it would be churlish to focus on one and then that would be it. Poseidon is my #1 and unless there is some earth-shattering revelation today, I'm sticking with him and there is nothing that can shake me off that path.

But let's look to the future of the game. Right now I am thinking of Dionysus and Hades.

How long are we going to allow Dionysus to carry on playing the way he has been? Staying very very low, under the radar, coming in and doing just enough to both not be replaced, and not self-vote. Something's not god damn right there, brothers.

Something about Hades sticks in my throat as well. Vanilla claims always irk me, particularly when the person making them is not under threat. He said he did it to prove that he had nothing to lose, and thus the best candidate to take the bomb - no, you are not the best candidate to take the bomb. Hemera aside, the smurfing mafia are the best candidates to take the bomb! Or the serial killer, ha ha ha. He seemed to think there was a very good chance Apollo was the bomb...so he was happy to apparently risk two townspeople in one fell swoop? I'm not buying that.

The bomb can also be neutral, and win by surviving.

Can literally never think of a time when the bomb has been neutral in a game of EoFF mafia, or any other non-EoFF game of mafia I have seen. And even if it is neutral, so what? It doesn't have the town's interests at heart? Alright, brother, but you know who has them even less at heart? The mafia.

If the majority of the town agrees that it's better for Hemera to be the lynch vote then I will also agree to that.

I don't like this one bit. "If the town want it" is a cop out, especially from someone who had said they were sticking to their guns previously. If you are town, then it should not matter what "the town" wants, as "the town" is tainted by members of the mafia. Trust yourself more than you trust others, as you know you have not been compromised.

I don't know what to make of Hades's "Don't worry kids, I got experience!" line, though. It's a key part of his personality, and perhaps the key to the Hades puzzle once and for all! It's something he's kind of hinted at a few times, so there's obviously some plan behind that. I can't quite figure out what he hopes to achieve by mentioning it, though (I have ideas, but nothing concrete and worth mentioning) so I'm throwing it open to interpretation.

Sorry for those of you complaining about a lack of posting. It took a while to type all this up and read through the thread. Remember, kids, to follow my three demandments: training, saying prayers, and eating vitamins!

As I said, I don't remember insinuating I had tons of experience, I just said I'd played as mafia before. So... yeah, no key to the puzzle here, xD. No real puzzle, in fact.

Furthermore, I was afraid that this argument would be used against me as soon as Hemera claimed bombsquad and offered to take the lynch vote. I was right that someone would latch on to that, which is why I was hesitant to go forward with it.

At any rate, now time for more investigation of my top 3 suspects.

[[M] D'Anna]

Here are the posts I was referencing just before.

Let's just say I have some conclusive and reliable inside information at my disposal.

They say they are certain that Artemis targeted them last night, however, I am inclined to believe that this wasn't the case. And since the other player was the

Just noticing this post you made. As you've previously said, this is just semantics. Think about it like this, his conclusive and reliable evidence of who Artemis targeted makes him inclined to believe that Artemis did not target Helios.

[[M] Athena]

You're probably right with that Hestia. I just thought the contrast in confidence was a bit strange.

[Del Murder]

Votecout

Helios (3) - Nyx, Aphrodite, Hermes, Hestia
Nyx (2) - Helios, Hera
Poseidon (2) - Hermes, Eilithyia, Nyx
Hades (2) - Tyche, (self-vote)
Aphrodite (1) - Poseidon
Hebe (1) - Hestia, (self-vote)

Not voting: Ares, Dionysus, Hades, Hebe, Hemera

Day 4 ends in about 1 hour.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I'll comment on yours if you comment on mine.

You got it brother.

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As far as I'm concerned, all this crap in your post represents the mafia players out here. For two years, brother, for two years, I held my head high, I did everything for the kids, I was the perfect townie. The reception I got when I came out here... you mafia players can stick it, brother, because if it wasn't for me, you people wouldn't be here. If it wasn't for me, Del Murder would still be making snide remarks in the Feedback Forum, and if it wasn't for me, all these Johnny-Come-Latelys that you see out here playing mafia wouldn't be here. I was dominating mafia game after mafia game, brother, while you were stealing gas to put in the car to get to high school, so the way that it is now, brother, whatcha gonna do when Hollywood Hermes and the New World Order runs wild on you? Whatcha gonna do?

##Leg Drop Hestia

[[M] D'Anna]

I meant comment on my genitals.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

##unvote
##vote: Hestia

Shove it, brother. You're as poor at comebacks as you are at mafia. Get out of my sight.

[[M] D'Anna]

Sounds like someones cruisin' for a Hestia stunner bruisin'.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Unfortunately, Stone Cold, I am not your wife and thus you can't beat me.

[[M] Helo]

Man I actually slept! And almost missed my meeting! Ok, now.

Anyway, some weird scenarios went through my head as I tried to judge Helios. I think he is probably lying, and even though I still really want to know about Aphrodite, I think that is the most informative lynch for today.

##Unvote
##Vote: Helios