Mindsmurf Mafia - GAME OVER - Town Win - The Triple H gods are the heroes!

[[M] Athena]

I'm assuming Hemera has a percentage chance to survive the blast. There are other roles like this. The insane doctor is an example, and whatever Strawberry's role was last game also had a chance to give an STD.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Right have to sleep

##unvote:Apollo

Happy exploding

[[M] Apollo]

I will have to be going shortly as well. I really wanted to hear more from Poseidon and several others who have been quiet throughout this whole shebang. I'll try to check once more before I go to sleep, but until then...

##vote Apollo

[[M] Athena]

You can't unvote Apollo.

[[M] Kurt - Cool Dad]

Apollo can't unvote, he fails. I really don't know what to do right now, so I think I will leave my vote on Poseidon and hope that I can come back here before the day is over and something will happen so I can vote.

[[M] Athena]

I'm not even sure his vote on himself went through. I hope so, I don't like Apollo one bit.

[Del Murder]

Apollo's unvote indeed fails, but now Hades has a vote on Apollo, so he can unvote if he chooses. (though his vote is on himself anyway for not voting even if I counted it)

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

Apollo is most likely is the bomb, but he is playing for himself though hence his vote for the doctor to save himself despite Apollo not actually believing the doctor was scummy.

[[M] Athena]

Does his vote on himself count though? He didn't exactly unvote Poseidon, but that was inferred.

[[M] Caprica]

Children, children! All these well-structured and compelling arguments are giving me a headache! Or maybe... it's a sexy-ache? Am I right or am I right?

I, too, would like to know whether Apollo's vote on himself went through. Del Zeus?

[[M] Athena]

Please talk about something other than your alleged innate sex appeal...

[[M] Helo]

I thought about saving this for tomorrow but I might not have much online time and forget, so I wanted to hopefully save some fruitless arguing and lynching and at least might help some good discussion. My big post:

And this officially teaches me not to sign up for this game when it occurs during the first week of classes.

I just tried to wade through some of the current discussion. Even though the attention has drifted from me a bit, I would first like to address a big deal that has been made out of this one post of mine, with the following assessment by Hermes, because I might not even have time tomorrow with a chunk of my journal article editing due Thursday:

- Poseidon plays it both ways. If the town turns on me, bam, he can easily join in. If not, no worries, I could just be town. Notice how he never expressively states his view one way or the other…

- Notice how Poseidon is not to blame for things. He could be wrong about me, but that's ok, he's a new player. Hestia isn't the most suspicious to him, but that's ok, he's got to go so he'll make a safe vote for her.

I just have one explanation for this: If that were my only post, I would agree with it entirely. But the point is belied by the fact that I came out as suspicious against Hestia before anyone else, and announced suspicions of both Hades and Apollo. I felt the need to post my thoughts about Hermes because with his new biker gang he was the center of attention, and… well, I wasn’t sure. Maybe I should have waited to read things more carefully or even wait for someone else better than me to come up with a better idea, but I have been rushed for any serious posting time since this weekend.

Hermes also missed one side of this analysis: given that the above post is different from my prior posts as in my first wavering post, that post is suspicious that Hermes and I are both mafia. I was not shy about pointing out suspicions, even towards unpopular subjects, beforehand, but someone else is the target and suddenly I get wishy-washy. The likely reasons I see are that maybe I actually was unsure because the situation was bizarre, or maybe I was protecting my ass if my mafia buddy gets found out, so no one can point fingers at me for trying to defend him.

But I was just unsure. And I don’t think Hermes is mafia (yes, that is also what I would say if we were both mafia, but then Hermes wouldn’t have put a spotlight on me where none was before). If you need to lynch me, oh well; I assure you the town will not be losing much by my death, outside of my brilliant posts, of course.

My thoughts: I still do not trust Apollo or Hestia. But as I concluded in my last post, I highly doubt both are mafia due to the voting of last round. I would support lynching Apollo, and if he turns mafia, I would consider Hestia almost beyond suspicion (yes, I will finally shut up about you ). I think we should call Apollo’s bluff, since he’s really not helping us either way.

I also do not trust Nyx or Helios, given the reasons of Hermes’s extensive post around that. Helios especially had a sketchy bandwagon onto Nyx’s posts, continuing the theme of emphasizing the loss of the town. Maybe it’s just me, but that just always sounds insincere and trying too hard to show people your town loyalty, especially making similar comments well after someone else. I just can’t believe they’re both mafia, or else they’re just highly incompetent, so out of two I trust Helios the least, if only for bandwagoning. Helios needs to be looked at.

Also, did you guys realize that Eros was mafia? Isn’t that some sort of clue? I just looked back through this entire thread and she did nothing. No Day 1 or 2 votes, and posted anything really just on Day 0. And no one had even mentioned her. How long would she have lived if one of the killing factions hadn’t targeted her? Don’t you think this should bring on some suspicion for all the other non-posting non-voters out there? This is not for today, as we seem to have enough on our hands right now and only a couple of hours left, but it’s something to think about down the line.

Whew.

I have no idea what I can vote for right now, so I’ll just hang back. I would vote for Apollo or Helios, though it looks like only Apollo has a chance of being lynched.

## Vote: Apollo (I think I can do that)

[[M] Helo]

Hah, I just realized I decided to vote for Apollo and left in the "hang back" line (which I had just typed). I should sleep.

[[M] Athena]

Also, did you guys realize that Eros was mafia? Isn’t that some sort of clue? I just looked back through this entire thread and she did nothing. No Day 1 or 2 votes, and posted anything really just on Day 0. And no one had even mentioned her. How long would she have lived if one of the killing factions hadn’t targeted her? Don’t you think this should bring on some suspicion for all the other non-posting non-voters out there?

From my observations, the nightkills have all targetted inactives (or just very quiet posters). This, in my mind, supports the idea of two mafia factions, as the common mafia tactic is to just take out inactives so you don't draw any attention.

Why, then, is Ares untouched? Not a single post all game. Dionysus and Eilithyia have both disappeared off the radar after Day 1. Eilithyia has made only two posts, one of them confirmation and the other was a vote on Medusa.

Dionysus also disappeared when he had a double vote ability. I can't make sense of that, but Poseidon is right in that it is something to think about after today.

[[M] Athena]

And by 'it' in the last sentence, I am referring to inactives. Just to clarify.