*reads thread*
*reads thread*
Ok! Read. First thing,
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Originally Posted by [M] Klavier Gavin
Consider me prodded :p [insert RL-related excuse]Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Furio Tigre
Was this part of your 'I give up' phase? I understand that you thought the town wasn't working together though. Do you still feel this way? Also, what is the significance of being/playing like Luigi?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Plum Kitaki
Thanks for that. I leveled up. I was leaning slightly towards just saying what my role was eventually, but I will hold it for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jean Armstrong
I don't have any strong suspicions yet (or weak ones for that matter), it was just that one comment from Plum that had me concerned. And my role kind of prevents me from just voting on a whim.
I have some important things to do this morning (hence why I'm up and reading/posting so early) so after this I won't really be around to answer anyone that directs something at me for several hours. I shall be back later though.
I'll change my Vote back to Luke if that lynch gains popularity. However for now, since it's not likely to happen, I think it's more important to keep Godot alive.
##Unvote: Luke
##Vote: Plum
First off, my suspicions of Godot have nothing to do with what DD/Hotti said. I've had my suspicions about him since day 1. And after adding up all the evidence I'm certain he's scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bikini
As for bandwagoning, chalk that up to laziness and inexperience :tongue:
Looking over things Godot is still my number 1 suspect. However I'll hold off on him as he *may* be the doctor (though I honestly don't believe so).
Plum is either town or a freaking genius of surviving lynches. However she's reading more town to me at the moment.
Other various people who pop in or say very little come to mind, but one person that bothers me for inactivity is Phoenix Wright. The star ace and he doesn't even post hardly any. What's he trying to hide?
So going back to day one (only not a joke vote this time but rather a real vote) I'll vote him for inactivity.
##Vote: Phoenix Wright
No, it was because the town is playing like it did in WWIII mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Trucy WrightWas this part of your 'I give up' phase? I understand that you thought the town wasn't working together though.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Plum Kitaki
@Plum: You need to change your playing strategy :p
@Godot: No worries, I'm ok now :bigsmile:
@Everyone: Well I got a pretty decent sleep, and I'm drinking orange juice. Both have probed my brain to REALLY think.
Phoenix: Inactive. The star character, so you'd think he'd be here more. Posts and runs. Doesn't contribute much.
Jean: Comes in spurts (lol, dirty minded). Suddenly leaves at the most random of times. Very smart. Lots of experience in the game, so would be able to hide ANYTHING.
Plum: Gives up instantly, doesn't even try to fight. Acts like it's a chore to play. Gives up because they're losing first, then suddenly, it's because the town isn't playing together.
Godot: Smart. Most wanted at the moment because of events related to Hotti (but keep in mind, DD was the man behind the puppet).
Trucy: Never has much to add, not really around that much.
Faye: Comes in spurts and pretty much just repeats what's already been said, but also has some pretty good ideas.
Luke: Not around much unless he's called out on something.
Just some facts to consider...not as much of a "suspect list" as it is a list of people who seem to be the most popularly discussed.
I don't like how I can leave and never get susipcion, keep your eyes out better if I had been scum I could've laid low the entire day out of my friend over excuse.
Anyway, my main three suspects are, Godot, Luke, and I'd like someone to explain the argument against Plum.
Now, Plum's either Jojee, or a really crap town, for turning a game you sign up for into a chore and is another reason I'm not liking this town's chances. I don't see the argument on why she's susipicious though.
Something about Godot has been getting me all game, if he turns out to be mafia, then he's been the mafian suckup all game. Let's face it, no one wants to kill someone who calls them smart, because they think they see his way. Now I say that completely disregarding what Hotti said, because I think he was just out to act crazy as usual.
Luke still has my attention. His been making easy votes without much analsys in them, and chalked them up to laziness, and inexperience, sorry that excuse doesn't help. On top of that Franziska's analsys is very correct, he only appears when being called out. Biggest newbie mafia mistake.
I don't know if this will make a difference, but Luke really should be public enemy number one imo.
##Vote: Luke Attny
EDIT: It should be noted that if it turns out to be Plum V. Godot, I'm voting Godot.
@Dick: to be honest, I keep forgetting most of the characters that are nearly never here, including you xD I should go back to that character list.
The reason why Plum is suspicious, is because his (the player is a male) posts have basically been "I agree. ##Vote" until we all started looking twice at him. Then he suddenly said 'I give up. I'm going to die anyway, no point anymore," without ANY form of defense. If they dont' want to play...why keep them around, yeah?
But now he says he wants to play, and he's been posting more, though he doesn't really say much to contribute, but it's a start. Therefore, the suspicion is being lifted for the most part, but I'm not changing my vote until I see someone (other than Godot) who tickles my scum radar.
And yes, Luke is scummy. But, I'm sticking to my vote until he really says something to set me off.
Aw, bye guyz, I gotta go to work and then get this thing fixed. XD Go Town!
Consider that we've lost 4 townies in 2 days. Voting someone because they're playing poorly shouldn't be done until we get at least 1 mafian to cut down the chance of us losing without even noticing.
EDIT: Nearly never here? I was here all of Day 2.
@ Gant: bai ^^
@Dick: I'm thinking in the present day, sorry xD
And, well...you have a point. A VERY good point.
##Unvote: Plum
##Vote: Luke
[5] [M] Godot: [M] Lamiroir [M] Ema Skye [M] Luke Atmey [M] Plum Kitaki[M] Will Powers[M] Jean Armstrong [M] Wesley Stickler [M] Damon Gant
[5] [M] Plum Kitaki: [M] Godot [M] Bikini [M] Wesley Stickler[M] Damon Gant
[M] Apollo Justice [M] Will Powers [M] Maya Fey [M] Furio Tigre[M] Franziska von Karma[2] [M] Trucy Wright: [M] Klavier Gavin [M] Furio Tigre
[2] [M] Luke Atmey: [M] Dick Guimshoe [M] Franziska von Karma [M] Bikini
[1] [M] Phoenix Wright [M] Miles Edgeworth
[1] [M] Bikini: [M] Klavier Gavin[M] Damon Gant
[0] [M] Valant Gramarye: [M] Wesley Stickler
[0] [M] Lamiroir: [M] Klavier Gavin
About 40 minutes left in the day, unless we end up in Sudden Death again. Get crackin'
Just popping in to see what the deal is. There's no way I'm changing my vote. Godot reads scum big time to me so no change. Like I said, busy weekend. Be back later to see what's happened. :greenie:
20 minutes left. :P
I'm not changing my vote either. I forsee sudden death.
Sudden death over someone's death. lol @ irony.
Luke, aren't you the least bit concerned that you're a suspicion? :confused:
Also, we can't get crackin'...Without NeoCracker
:bigbiggri?
No I am not. I have nothing to hide.
smurf, between Plum and Godot, Godot should go.
##Unvote: LUke
##Vote: Godot
=\ it'll really be bad if he really is the doctor. But, I'm not holding my breath.
"You think I'm WHAT?"
Godot had been accused of being behind the killings, but the source of the accusation was... unreliable to say the least. Director Hotti had left behind a video explaining how the letters in his Alphabits cereal had spelled out "BOFTOG" which can kind of rearranged to spell "Godot" if you take away some letters and turn one of them into a G. Apparently the ramblings of a madman were more than enough to be considered decisive evidence. Gumshoe had the honor of being the one to stick fork in his toaster face, causing him to spark and convulse and simply hunch over dead.
[M] Godot was a Doctor played by Dynast-Kid and Levian. Awwwww.
Night actions please! It's early in the day so I'm hoping to get them all early. This way we can start the day this evening. Night will last no longer than 12 hours.
Nothing happened.
Day 4 begins now. With 19 players left, it takes ten votes for a majority lynch. The day will last a maximum of 24 hours, barring another sudden death situation.
Go
yay, we all made it ^^ EXCEPT FOR THE DOCTOR. SHAME ON YOU ALL :nonono:
Ah well... *Sigh*. Let's try to get a mafian this time, guys.
EDIT: And to stick with what I had in Day 3...
##Vote: Luke
Come on, dude. Where are you? Why don't you post something useful for once? Your behavior smells SCUMMY.
Really strange to see that nothing happened. There's gonna be something up with that.
I'm terribly sad to see our little Godot go. :( I'm also a bit suspicious of the people who turned us against him ...
I wish I could say the same about my pants...but oh baby something happened in there when I saw your beautiful beard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judge
14 left alive. Supposing 5 mafia (if it's 6, smurf you Judge OVERPOWAH HAX) 9 of us, 5 of them, meaning yeah, today we have to get it right or else we are in a very very bad way tomorrow.
Problem is a lot of people just come in, look at who is popular and vote for them and don't contribute anything else. I'd love to go after them but we can't really afford that. I guess someone who is active is mafia so just gotta go over the thread and find 'em.
Unfortunately I missed voting day 3 because the day ended when I was still asleep, but regardless even if I would've voted, the majority of you still made the decision to lynch Godot; which I was up in arms with. Very disappointing that we loss our doctor, but judging from the activity last night, or lack thereof, we still have some powerful roles that overrided the kill(s), so no need to panic yet. The following people are now on my suspect list on account of voting off Godot even after he role claimed doctor:
Lamiroir
Ema Skye
Luke Atmey
Plum Kit
Will Powers
Jean Armstrong
Wesley Stickler
Dick Gumshoe
There are actually 19 people alive jean.
People started to look cross-eyed at Godot when Hotti pulled the "I investigated him" stunt. He lied. People believed him because that was all they had to go by. We need to stop allowing one single person to be the one who influences all of us because as history has shown, it gets us killed.
Everyone, think really hard about what all has been said and what YOU think looks even slightly fishy. Don't tell us what Jean thinks is fishy, nor what Will thinks is fishy or Emma or any of them. Think for yourself and post ANYTHING you have to offer, because WE NEED TO WORK AS A TEAM AND NOT ALLOW OURSELVES TO BECOME SHEEP. So, stop following each other and take initiative!
Emma Skye, who rings most suspicious to you now that Godot is gone?
Phoenix, who smells fishy to you?
Plum, since you're safe for now, how about you let us in on your thoughts?
Will, what do you think of everything that's happened?
Trucy, Dick, Faye, Wesley, Lu..whatever your name is...Valant..Luke...Miles...Gavin...Bikini...Tigre...Damon...Discuss your thoughts and opinions, please.
Apollo, since you're the only other one that seems to be here...what have you got?
EDIT: ohai, Valant.
EDIT2: And Jean. And Gavin.
Oh, and Jean dear? Party in your pants tonight, me and you? :jokey:
I've played a poor game thus far. I have Luke as my #1 but I vote with him? Bad choice, I'm willing to take some blame.
I still believe Luke is mafia. He only posts other peoples ideas, he takes easy votes, and doesn't say much until he's targetted. He also appeared to be someone who pushed Godot harder then most.
I don't know why people would trust Demon Dude of all people even after he lied about his day cop role, but that's an entirely different topic for an entirely different thread. Gonna move on now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
Jean only likes men. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES GODOT. I should have listened. I should. Have. Listened.
But hooray for no more Townies dying apart from that!
Luke was my number two suspect on Day 3 (after Godot), so now he's of course moved up to number one.
But we, as a group, should try to figure out what the pattern of public night actions means. (Public meaning the ones everyone can see the end result of)
People had suggested two separate Mafia factions. It behooves the Mafia to kill each and every night, so both factions would have chosen someone all three nights. Nights 1 and 2 can be explained this way (with one of the Night 1 kills pointing to Godot, who protected himself and thus survived). Following this theory into Night 3, however, would imply multiple protections (meaning other protective roles or bulletproofness/nightkill immunity, etc) and circumstances that are just a little low on the probability scale with 19 players remaining to seem plausible. Of course, this is not saying this definitely could not have happened. It's just my logical approach to the problem.
So what does this mean? Some other sort of killing role is in play. The possibilities are numerous. It could be anything from Serial Killer to Even-Night Vigilante (I made that one up) to Paranoid Gun Owner.
Those are my thoughts as of right now. Cue large gap in time between this post and my next one, related to nighttime activities.
Here's what I think.
Luke is fishy, but so is Lamiroir. Laying a little too low for my liking.
Emma comes and goes a little too often.
Wesley roleclaimed when there was absolutely no threat to him. Blamed it on newbishness. Not sure what to think about that, but I've got my eye on him.
Phoenix disappeared. Laying low like Lamiroir? Psh. Red flag up in herr.
Trucy is around more than the other Wright, but still not enough.
Because it's the beginning of summer, a lot of people will be busy, but really now. Are you just laying REALLY low to stay off the radar as you plot the next death, or do you actually mean it?
Franziska, you will need to give us your opinaon as well. Here are my thoughts of the remaining people
Mafia
Lamiroir - I get strong scum vibes
Luke - has some bad vibes
Furio - Some bad vibes
Needs to be more active
Trucy
Bikini
Town
Klavier (I know I'm town)
Jean is pretty safe with me
Wesley could very well have meant it when he said he's new to this, but he's REALLY knowledgeable for someone who is just starting in on mafia. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
"I get some strong/bad/icky/nasty/foul/ewy scum vibes" is not really that helpful. We need some reasons why.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Klavier Gavin
And, I gave my opinion. Luke is the number one suspect for me, and Lamiroir is on the same level because she's made, what, 2 or 3 posts the entire game? I believe them to be mafia the most at the moment.
Also, Jean is WAY too smart for his own good. Though, his EOFF identity has been in most of the mafia games, so this is most likely why. I just don't like how he comes in and posts only a couple of times, then disappears until the next day. So, he's pretty suspicious too.
to karma- I have a small idea of what happened. I think the roleblocker got the right person and we either have some bulletproofs or we have more protective roles.
The case with godot... really just confuses me. He was playing like a perfect serial killer. I guess I was wrong though, and I am sorry. Also, DD is the official mafia loser. Seriously. I should have listened to godot and not beleived that idiot. I am sorry.
Luke is suspicious to me because he has NOTHING to contribute, and his posts have a sort of...celebratory?...tone to them. As if he's happy about how things are going. As if he's behind it.
Lamiroir:
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Originally Posted by [M] LamiroirHello =D This game is so big.
Do you mean ...godfather? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Trucy Wright
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Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
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Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Suspicious material can has bold.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
So, out of a total of 4 posts, 2 of them are votes with little or no reason. Every other post is a vote. I see a pattern, whether it be significant or not.
In the second quote, "he will die sooner than later from being night killed." She sounds way too sure of herself. Also, "I see him as dead in any case soon because why would the mafia want to leave him alive if he can investigate them every night?" Either she's trying to think like the mafia so she can figure out what they're up to and prompt us to think like them at the same time, or, if you think about it, she sounds kind of like she's sending a subliminal message: I see him as dead in any case soon because why would I want him alive if he can investigate me every night?" "I would rather take the chance on Mia Fey..." She was the third in the Mia Fey bandwagon. Not only that, but she didn't say WHY she'd rather take a chance on Mia Fey. On top of all that, she doesn't consider all the different types of cop that he could have been. Considering all possibilities is VERY important, because one false move and you could be the next one in line for the lynch block, or even the next night kill victim.
More on her later, if I can think of anything I'm missing. After observing, though, Lamiroir is slowly jumping up there in suspicion levels to me.
I'm sorrrryy! I'm saying that a lot already =/ I honestly thought Godot was guilty. I said yesterday i have more time today, so, here I am. Fran, I did say why I would rather take a chance on Mia, because cops are really important. I think everyone was thinking that too, not just me! I should have just never listened to anything Hotti said from the start XD
Duh, I forgot to discuss the last two quotes xD
"Here's a thought, why did the mafia kill Kristoph Gavin?" Nothing more than that. No "I think it was because of this." Just simply...what she said. No substance. Why did she pick him out specifically? He was just a vanilla townie, not an important role. An off-the-wall question that has no relevance. Trying to lead us off onto the wrong path of thinking to distract us.
In quote #4: "Driector Hotti was really a cop, and, even though he lied about being day cop I think he was telling the truth on day 2 ...I think I believe him ... so that means Godot is guilty because Director Hotti was insane.
##Vote: Godot"
I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, the insane cop CAN get correct readings. The fact that he didn't even investigate Godot to begin with has no relevance. She was insisting that Godot was guilty despite lack of evidence on her part, as well as the fact that it was blatantly obvious that DD lied to us. She's too quick to trust the insane one. Or, perhaps, she's just glad another townie is gone. Less trouble for her to plan another townie death.
Without further adieu, after laying out my supporting evidence for my verdict:
##Unvote: Luke
##Vote: Lamiroir
Luke may be mafia too, but for now, Lady Lamiroir has too much against her to be a townie.
@Will: Strong possibility. Let's all keep an eye on all details, even the smallest of ones, so we can make correct deductions.
@Lamiroir: The fact that you really didn't have any other reason other than what Hotti said to support your deduction that Godot was guilty raises questions. You should NEVER trust another player THAT much, ESPECIALLY DD. Just keep that in mind for next time you play mafia.
Thats what I get for hitting submit instead of preview, an incomplete post. The second half is this.
I was looking back at day 1, and watched as one by one, votes switched from Hotti/Godot to Mia. Lamiroir was right in the middle, seeming to act on her own, but helping secure that Mia would die, knowing that Hotti would be discredeted.
Luke, you also slipped day 1. You accused several people of being scum in a joking tone, yet were still throwing names out there. I forgot what Psy called it in retro games mafia, something about throwing spaghetti at a wall. You also had no fear of Hotti, because you knew Mia was innocent and just slipped in a vote for her with the rest of the bandwagon.
Furio is just giving me a bad vibe, I don't fully understand why though.
Uh, yeah, I said I think I believed him, not I definately believed him XD I didn't have any more reason than anyone else to think he's guilty and wanted to vote in case I don't get to again, and, insane cops can't get right results ...so, yeah.
OHMIGOSH sry I was at six flags all day today literally 10 Am to 10 PM sorry ya'lls So my thoughts
Fran- Town because she seems so concerned about people who aren't playing (we'll thats older but really)
Jean- Possibly both for me I can't tell. He's really smart so I'm afraid that's he's mafia and just tricking us
Apollo, PW,-Can't tell been to inactive
Lami whatever- Mafia due to obvious reasons
Bikini- Can't tell old and new person aren't on too much
Everyone else I can't remember due to low suspiscions
##vote: Lamiroir
Whatever Furio Tigre. First you said "Lami - whatever" ...and then later after you saw others post you edited to "Mafia due to obvious reasons" and put a vote, and, don't even explain what obvious reasons ...If that's not suspicious I don't know what is!
I saw that too. Trying to save yourself Furio?
@Lamiroir: You're right...Insane cops CAN'T be right. My bad =P
and yeah...the "obvious reasons" thing is kinda...out of place. Explain?
Throwing suspiscion away I believe that's suspiscious agreeing with someone on day one to hopefully (in my mind) be believed as protown, need continue voting Godot even after there was supposedly a plan for a cop if we had one to investigate him that night and depending on what we got vote him or not vote him. I think thats enough I just didn't want to type all that seeing as it's 10:32 PM and I've been up since like 4 AMQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Interesting how Lam is suddenly starting to post more now that she's on the chopping block. It makes me think that she has been lurking this thread, but that is just a presumption. She is suspicious to me because she voted for Godot and also Director Hotti (who were both innocent) with not much sound reasoning behind it although to be perfectly honest, with the way Hotti was acting I am not surprised you people lynched him.
They get right results once they find out that their results are backwards if that makes any sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
I TOLD YOU! I TOLD YOU! I TOLD YOU!
Ugh, sorry, just had to get that out of my system. We should've given Godot another day, and look what happened!
Anyway, as of right now I'm not even really sure where we are.
Can anyone explain to me why we dislike Laromir (sp?)
Additionally, I've Furio seems to quick to post guilt, and I've been becoming more and more suspicious of him, though there isn't a concrete case against him right now either.
If i was mafia I wouldn't have such a bad voting record Lol, and what difference does it make, Hotti or Mia? They were both town ...though Hotti turned out to be really bad town XD If you thought voting Godot was dumb maybe you shouldn't have thrown your vote away on Tracy ...where you even said you knew your vote wouldn't matter.
I'm still catching up on some reading. Lol when I have time to post, there's not much people on ...
I had the same Godot IdeaQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Maya Fey
I believe most people are disliking Lamiroir because he was very inactive then as soon as his name comes up on chopping block he starts posting
And only one person on my list I believe to be guilty and I know there is no case because I'm town
I see my name mentioned a lot yesterday actually XD No one can spell it right.
I did that because I didn't have any concrete evidence on anyone and It was that or don't vote at all and I felt like votingQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Yea I see you didn't vote for anyone on day 1 ...and Hotti on day 2 ...and Tracy on day 3, according to Judge's tally, and, you jump around votes all the time. Are you afraid of committing?
I'm tired of reading your posts ...what else should we talk about?
DAy 1 No evidence so I didn't vote day two Hotti because he annoyed me yesterday no evidence so i went for someone who I knew would be safe I changed votes once yesterday when Godot convinced me to wait a day. And on day 1 I jumped a lot to see if people were on but being inactive and if they'd jump to try and save their ass which I already explained to GodotQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Okay...It's after 2 am. I've been up since 5 am yesterday. Time to hit the sack.
Gnight all :)
[2] [M] Lamiroir: [M] Franziska von Karma [M] Furio Tigre
[0] [M] Luke Atmey: [M] Franziska von Karma
I'm going to bed so that's the last vote count you'll get from me tonight. :P I'll be back tomorrow.
I'm not going to vote for anyone yet, as Ive just replaced someone and haven't read enough yet to get a good vibe of the people.
I will have some opinion by the end of day 4, until then I will lurk.
p.s. look at my awsome pink glasses. ^__^
Im sticking with Luke, for reasons stated yesterday.
Furio doesn't look very fun to me either, based on giving little information, and on day 1 voting for a guy because he voted for him, something WAY to defensive for a town. But thats just me, and I really don't have much evidence on Tigre other then that, so I don't intend to vote for him.
I also encourage you all to vote Luke as well as me, after enough people start talking of course so we can milk more info out of them. :p
Also, I was being active, just after I got on. :p
Remember, I didn't even get a PM to play this time until half way through the other day, and didn't get to post until near the end of the day.
And here I am, posting again. :p
God you guys are fast readers or something. I've gone back through the thread from the beginning but only up through Day 1. Going by what we know for sure, here's what's caught my eyes.
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Originally Posted by [M] Judge
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Originally Posted by [M] Miles EdgeworthI had no one better to vote for since no one really screamed scum to me yet. It was also a half joke as my character looks like the villain type and Phoenix was the only good guy in the series I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Godot
But as far as Hotti goes, he's either insane and a very bad cop (and no not an insane cop, I mean player insane), a jester, or mafia trying a very bold move on day one.
I'm leaning more towards jester of this moment.
Here we have the final vote count from Day 1 along with the tie-breaker's vote. First, I'll do what I always do and say that it's most likely that at least 1 (more probably 2, even 3) scum player(s) voted for the lynch victim. Taking those we know are innocent out of the list we have Damon Gant, Lamiroir, Luke Atmey, Will Powers, and Phoenix Wright. All likely scum peepz.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Miles Edgeworth
Miles comes out as the last voter for Mia Fey, moving his vote from Phoenix Wright to her. Moves his vote off the person he votes for to join the person he voted for against Mia? WTF, mate? I know it was only Day 1 and things happen, just sayin' it's a bitto weirdo to me.
There was another post earlier than this one where you just lept out and hopped on Godot. Plum... chica, get some opinions or something! People need your thoughts not your gloomy join-behinds.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Plum Kitaki
This just sounds weird to me. Not to mention chain lynching again. It really looks like you're not truly committing to either one because you don't care about losing either. And you voted for both.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Will Powers
Forgive me for possibly making something out of nothing here but I really don't like when little things like this are added to the end of a post. "I really hope we arent making the wrong move here..." It just oozes fake to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Will Powers
BADAAADAAA. Plus, you're on the list of possibles I have at the start of the post. You my #1, baby. #1.
I can see some scum in there maybe. You're putting two proven innocents in together almost like a chain lynch. I don't know. I think you were thinking how a townie should think, in my opinion. I don't see why everyone's so worked up about you right now. But still, a little fishy just nothing too major.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Same as Plum, get some backbone. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Luke Atmey
Kristoph votes for Damon Gant, one of those on my list at the top of this post. Kristoph dies that night. Probably coincidence but just pointing that out. Little bits can lead to a big case.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Kristoph Gavin
Coming back to this quote by Mia Fey because I agreed with it from the start. Now it's more true than it was back then since we're lower in numbers and we actually have things to discuss. Don't let the people that aren't contributing move on without some resistance. From the list I made, I'm looking at you, Phoenix Wright.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Mia Fey
There, that was forever in the making and it was only Day 1. I'll come back after I get some sleep and go over everything else then. :mog:
Before I go to sleep I just want to point out that I'm a replacement and cannot be accounted or defend the playstyle of the person who took this account before me.
We can however say that he/she is a newbie, as experienced players do not take up a mafia game and then suddenly leave.
So don't make quick judgements on how he/she played(because I can't explain that), but if you have a general scum vibe coming from me, a little understandable as for a pro-town role he/she played pretty scummely, then vote away.
Well Mr. Gant, you just moved up to #2 on my list.
Why? "Oh, you can't judge me, for I is replacement". The thing is, everything that happened before did happen, and its something that can and should be taken into consideration.
It seems very scummy to try to remove any evidence that can be used against you without a good reason as to why.
I'll just say it, Gant is #1 on my list today, and now he is even more! On day 2 when I said, "think about why the mafia killed Kristoph" I looked at his posts, and, the only thing Kristoph did was vote for Gant. But, I more suspected Hotti that day, so i didn't want to get killed too in case I said something DX
I notice he keeps talking about wanting to be investigated. He said something about night time inspection at least twice. I read it earlier but i don't want to find it now.
Now, no one barely even said anything about him, and he says "sorry the person before me was playing scummy." No one even said that except him, why so paranoid!
One more thing i noticed when i was reading that seems weird, him and some other people I forgot seem to trust Jean so much ...why?
I'm leaving and putting my vote in case I don't get back, but, like I said I have more time now and i should be back XD
##Vote: Gant
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Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
Yeah I'm really happy that we keep lynching townies while the scum laugh at how much we suck :rolleyes2
Alright, I want to clear my name so if any of you have any questions I'll answer them. I have nothing to hide.
Because the person behind Jean's character just oozes charisma. (Don't let that go to your head, you-know-who-you-are...I'll deflate it with a pin :aimkiss:)He probably has the most experience out of anyone playing, other than Levian...who died anyway and wasn't able to post except once, I believe, because he worked so much. I'm sure there are more experienced ones among us, I just don't know who all is playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Anyway, as I said before...trusting one player to tell you how to vote and all that is VERY dangerous. He turns out to be mafia, we're screwed for life, because he has the most influence over everyone, and we let it get that way. That's why we need to stop the blind follower act now, get our heads together, and work as a TEAM. We're letting the mafia win because we cba to come up with real reasons and we don't want to really look into things, either because we're afraid of being next on the list to die, because we just don't want to trudge through all those posts back there to find anything solid..or we have a LOT of scum in our midst who have the lazy act going on while in reality, they're working extra hard in the mafian forum to get us all killed for the victory. There's no way to know for certain. All we have to go by is the word of each other, and well...Like I said, "Guilty until proven innocent," and there are only two ways to be proven innocent: a fate like Godot's where they scream "I'm innocent, please believe me!" and end up with the noose around their neck anyway, or if a sane cop who isn't played by DD investigates the person and finds them to be innocent, then at some point, informs the town of their results for whatever reason.
Seeing that we're pushing each other to support our votes and thoughts makes me happy, because we're finally gaining a fighting chance. We CAN win, if we keep this up. Don't let any small details pass you by, because they can turn into fatal mistakes if we're not careful.
Luke: who rings most suspicious to you as of now and why?
On a lighter note, I really need to get better sleeping habits. Bed at 2ish, up at 5. Not cool D=
Honestly, I have no idea right now. I was so sure Godot was scum. My whole beliefs system has been shattered ;_;Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
*patpat* there, there. Reading old posts will help you find your new belief! FOLLOW THE LIGHT, LUKE, FOLLOW THE LIGHT!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Luke AtmeyHonestly, I have no idea right now. I was so sure Godot was scum. My whole beliefs system has been shattered ;_;Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
Ahem.
Anyway.
Gant, why did you act as though we backed you into a corner? "Don't hold me accountable for what my previous player said!" We never said that we were holding you accountable, we're just watching you.
Paranoia does you no good.
Hi guys. Sorry for not posting before, but I had a friend over when the day started, and I'm going to bed now. Talk to you more tomorrow.
After reading through most of the thread again (almost 60 pages is way too much to read in one sitting) I've compiled a list of my prime suspects:
Plum Kitaki: Mostly because of bandwagoning and inactivity.
Damon Gant: It's seems highly likely to me that he was behind Kristoph's murder. As has been mentioned, all Kristoph did in day one was vote Gant. Therefore it's probable that Gant wanted him out of the way to save his own skin. It may have been a rash move on his part, but it screams scum to me.
Jean Armstong: He's too smart for my liking. Granted he might be trying to unite the town, but mostly it seems he's trying to turn us against each other. He may be a sexy manbeast, but he's definitely got some kind of power role. Mafia or not I don't know yet.
Alright, I made a mistake yesterday, but I think today I can redeem myself.
Now that he's finally given his opinions he's also finally made scum moves again.Quote:
Jean Armstong: He's too smart for my liking. Granted he might be trying to unite the town, but mostly it seems he's trying to turn us against each other. He may be a sexy manbeast, but he's definitely got some kind of power role. Mafia or not I don't know yet.
I already didn't like his opinion against Jean, because he was unwilling to show it until someone else doubted Jean. Now he goes back to continue to try and plant a seed of guilt to Jean, why? Because he's "too smart" and he's "trying to turn us against each other." We're already against each other Luke, no one's been proven innocent yet! And we can't lynch someone for being smart out of fear they might be mafia, in that case every town would lose... which is probably what you want isn't it? :tongue:
And why do you think he has a power role? Because you and your mafian buddies tried to kill him and he didn't die last night?
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY! xD
##vote: Luke Atmy
[2] [M] Lamiroir: [M] Franziska von Karma [M] Furio Tigre
[1] [M] Damon Gant: [M] Lamiroir
[1] [M] Luke Atmey: [M] Dick Gumshoe [M] Franziska von Karma
Objection!
Dick's vote doesn't count because he misspelled my name :tongue:
Dick, if you have suspicions aginst me, fine. That's how the game goes. I don't know why I think Jean has a power role, it's just a gut feeling. Although it was my gut feeling that caused me to vote for Godot and that was a mistake. As for this:
Thanks for telling us why you and your fellow scumQuote:
And why do you think he has a power role? Because you and your mafian buddies tried to kill him and he didn't die last night?
didn'tcouldn't kill anyone last night :tongue:
House-keeping, first. I've been going through this damn thread for like, an hour or two reading every post and making notes. Currently on Page 20 of 30 so I figured I should just make some replies before continuing.
I think I know the town status of certain people, and there are a few in my head who are setting off mafia signals.Yeah was basing that on 20 people. :laugh: I am silly. Speaking of 19, I could go for a 19 year old busboy right about now. I wonder how old Apollo Justice is.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Klavier Gavin
Someone's figured me out!Quote:
Jean only likes men. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
I've made more posts in this thread than you have, hotshot, and don't you forget it. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
Yeah it's spaghetti plating. Not so sure if that applies to this situation tho'.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Klavier Gavin
I don't know who the hell you are but when I find out I am kicking your teeth in with my FEET!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
I do believe I was their target yes, for reasons that shall not be revealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Dick Gumshoe
Told you jackasses not to target me.
House-keeping out of the way, I will move onto ass-kicking later. But if you'll excuse me, I have like, 300 more posts of crap to read!
Wow Jean, you posted just as I was pondering you. XD
##vote: Luke Atmey
And get that vote in before I forget again. :p
Come on. Do stuff, people. :(
I am not entirely convinced that Luke is scum. I think he might just be a novice player. I am more prone to believe Plum, Furio and Lamiroir are scum.
These reasons are moving you up on my list you were 3, now your 2. explain nows or face my vote change abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jean Armstrong
I agree with Tigre. Jean, if you are ever gonna hide something from everyone, don't say you are. It makes you look bad.
What? Why would you encourage him to roleclaim? Unless its something like "Bulletproof" that could just put a bullet in Jean's forehead.
I'm not going to chalk up Luke as "just being a newbie." The first time I played I was mafia and I used that excuse to get out of more then one sticky situation. I believe when someone is making scummy moves chalking it up to newbieness a mistake.
LET'S DO THIS THANG.
On Godot:
Confirmed Insane Cop says the guy is innocent, you've just got to go with it, you've just got to, or else what the hell is the point in having cops if you're just going to ignore them? Yes, okay, we now know Demon Dude was being an unfunnyheel and I think that's tipped what would have been a balanced game heavily into the mafia's favour.
From the good to the bad. There will be no Damon Gant and Klavier Gavin. Why? I want to see how certain events play out first. :excited:
Jean Armstrong:
Oh my lord he's smart he's smart he's smart he's smart. For the love of holy tits, townsfolk, stop this please. Say something original about me.
Plum and Furio Tiger.
I think they are town. I think they are nervous players who I think should play with more confidence and look for avenues of their own and express them, but they're not scum.
Franziska von Karma
Bit of spaghetti plating but they seem town to me.
Dick Gumshoe
Couple of things that have made me go "Hmm what" but yeah the dude seems town.
Emma Skye
Bit dodgy on the first day, posting more townish as the game goes on, no real problems here.
Wesley Stickler
That roleclaim out of nowhere is still pretty wtf for me. Perhaps it's a scum overeager to share a pre-prepared claim. But besides that, I think they're alright.
Bikini
I don't know what the smurf because of inactives. You could argue that because mafia is a good role and she had to be replaced, she might not be scum. ;)
Valant
Replacement logic? maybe, but Valant's "These people voted off the doctor and this forms the sole basis of my list of suspects" is scummy as hell though
Luke Atmey
A bit of chain lynching but as I read his posts, I couldn't see an ulterior motive behind any of it, so yeah. Townish, but someone to keep an eye on just in case.
Maya Fey
Seems to spend a lot of their time complaining about work and the amount of spam than actually posting about mafia! :p I really was not keen on the idea of lynching Luke to prove my own status.
Will Powers
Incredibly wishy washy. Like, to the max. Was straight on the Hotti claim on Day One (presumably if he is scum he'd know that Hotti was full of
THE DODGY QUARTET!
Consists of Phoenix Wright, Apollo Justice, Trucy Wright and Miles Edgeworth.
To me all four have been keeping their heads down, making few posts and hardly showing a stance on most issues. Middle of the road, non-controversial stuff, and don't seem to want to make any waves. Phoenix Wright hasn't been around a lot, Trucy has been playing up the newbie angle. They often talk about sifting through the thread as an excuse to low activity (and hey I admit I just talked about that in my previous post but I came out and addressed some issues first rather than using it to stay out of sight) Miles is the worst of the four for all of this though, I feel. I really did not like his vote for Phoenix Wright for inactivity yesterday - he'd been bigging up Godot as the great Satan all day long but when it came down to Godot v Plum, he wussed out and went for Phoenix Wright out of the blue.
Larimoir
I 100% agree that Larimoir is extremely scummy. I might be repeating some of the stuff Franziska said but I read the thread in order so this is stuff I've been compiling.
On Day 1 she sat back, then popped in out of nowhere onto Mia after Godot and Gavin (both confirmed town which is important - mafia will not be voting in blocks, they will see what the townies do) do first.
Makes some bland contributions likeFranziska says it was to lead us down the wrong path; I disagree. It's to make it look like she's contributing but not. Seriously, I know who you are, Lammy Love - the act never works for long. :aimkiss: I know you knowQuote:
Here's a thought, why did the mafia kill Kristoph Gavin?"
And despite being inactive and keeping her head down, look who pops up as soon as she is called out properly. Ha.
Oh okay, I'm down for some bestiality. I'll make your tiger tiger burn bright before this night is through.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Furio TigreThese reasons are moving you up on my list you were 3, now your 2. explain nows or face my vote change abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jean Armstrong
So, these reasons? Here you go.
HEY MAFIA!!!!
WANT TO KNOW MY ROLE????
I THINK I WILL ANNOUNCE IT TO THE ENTIRE TOWN SO THAT YOU WILL KNOW WHAT YOU ARE UP AGAINST!!!!So you want me to hide the fact that I am hiding something? :rolleyes2 And I don't care if it makes me look bad - if that's what it takes for me to tell the town I think it was me they were after, so be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Will Powers
Not explaining why I think it was me because it's to do with roles and if you guys don't like that, tough
I believe thats good enough to make me not care anymore you are near the bottom of my list good job
Hi-five, bud. :cool:
Considering that Jean was bottom of my suspect list already that speech has done nothing but make me want to hump his leg :cool:
To all the people who asked me why I said my previous post when no one suspected me. Well, the person above that post did, based on previous actions.
Then everyone starts talking about the death of Kristoph and that's exactly what my post would be about. I have no idea what happened there, I don't know why I would be held responsible and have absolutely no way to defend myself against that. Seems kind of unfair to hold that against me tbh. But do as you will, I will just keep playing.
gimme a sec to read up.
I'd do that even when I suspected him:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Luke Atmey
I'll have sex with him even if he turns out to be scum :love:
too late I beat you to it
I'm sorry but I can't ignore this.
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Originally Posted by [M] Luke Atmey
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Originally Posted by [M] Luke Atmey
Regarding Phoenix Wright: He said that he'd be busy for a couple of days but he'd try to pop in at least once a day to take part. He hasn't. >_>
Why wait till now to make that post Jeany? :laugh:
Nah, it's perfectly fair to hold it against you if the guy you replaced acted scummy, sweet meat. It's a tough break, I'll give you that, but you agreed to be a replacement and knew what you were getting yourself into.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Damon Gant
You can't just expect us to ignore the last three days of Damon Gant and work by what you've done since replacing him because then we'd have nothing whatsoever to go on.I think it takes three days to get a full grasp of what everyone's all about really. When Day 4 started it was my bedtime, and since I got online today I've been reading the entire thread, making notes and typing up that thing. My notes still aren't even complete yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valant
Muy bien Dicky nice catch care to explain lukeQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Dick GumshoeI'm sorry but I can't ignore this.
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Originally Posted by [M] Luke Atmey
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Originally Posted by [M] Luke Atmey
Okay here is my interpretation of the last two pages.
I make my post, and Bikini comes in.
Very valid, and I can't say a word against it. I merely made notice of the fact that you can pour things against me from the first three days and I wont be able to defend against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bikini
Now look at the last line and then look at the post that comes directly behind it.
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Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
He just does exactly what I asked him not to do, and does exactly what Plum predicted. He uses previous actions, plus the fact that I said to take it out of consideration to vote for me.
I dont like it. I don't suspect Plum at all, but this seemed off to me. 90% scum vibe I got there. Trying to get a kill from something that was stupid but had to be said to prevent confusion.
And there he is bringing that confusion right back into the game.
I don't get any scum vibes from Jean, because he is an very experienced player, but that doesn't mean that we should follow him to vote for people. Think for yourself first, then look what the rest does.
Luke seemed even more off to me. Instead of investigating all players including laminoir, he just investigates me, Plum and Jean. Seems very strange to me to not include a person who gives off the most scum vibe out of the whole bunch.
My list for the moment has
#1: Laminoir
#2: Luke
And Jean, you should let others post a little more. Otherwise newbie's will stay newbies.
What's to explain? He's bottom of a list that only has three people on it :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Furio TigreMuy bien Dicky nice catch care to explain lukeQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Dick GumshoeI'm sorry but I can't ignore this.
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Originally Posted by [M] Luke Atmey
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Originally Posted by [M] Luke Atmey
People can still post whether or not I'm posting. But yeah people should rely on themselves more than they should on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon Gant
And Luke, whose monocle could well be on my bedroom floor tonight, seeing as how there are almost certainly more than three mafia in a game this size, you should probably suspect more than three people :p
Someone ask me a question I want to start some conversation in this thread... I just don't know what to say or what to ask :p
Very well, seeing as there should be a lot more players and a lot more mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Dick Gumshoe
Who is lurking and how many mafia do you think is in those lurkers?
I only have 2 on my mafia radar and I think the rest is hoping to remain unsuspected by lurking.
Those are the three people I suspect right now. There could well be more if I read the rest of the thread again.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jean Armstrong
And play your cards right and more than my monocle will be on your bedroom floor tonight ;)
There are a lot of people who are barely here. The ones that bother me most are the ones who show up periodically as mafians don't normally stay completely inactive. They would be:
Plum
Edgeworth
Lamiroir
Apollo Justice
Trucy Wright
Wesley Stickler
Naturally they aren't all definitly mafia, but I'd like to see and hear them more. The bolded ones have my attention because of either poor play, or taking others reasoning.
Posted with real account. Hahaha, like any of you don't know it is me anyway. :p
Do you have any thoughts on Will now that I have posted mine, Dick? Like, anything you want to expand on? (like the bulge in my pants, baby ;)) Going through the thread I made a note that you didn't seem too keen on him.
He does seem wishy washy I agree with that, and to expand on that idea, he also hasn't provided very much of his own thoughts. He's givin' me them vibes. But I can't get anything real tangable other then wishy washy, and lack of own ideas. This has been a consistant problem for me this game.
Okay, I haven't completely caught up on all of the posts yet, but I I'm just going to say I'm here.
From what I've read so far I've been called a hit-and-run and inactive poster and that's just not true! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...phoenixcry.gif
Goodness, I was only gone for a day and...a half now, is it? I was taken to Mexico against my will friday and wasn't returned to my home until now. I also went to a waterpark and suffered horrible horrible sunburns. Not worth it. I guess my partner didn't pick things up while I was gone :p
Now I will finish reading so I can get caught up xD
I don't really like how Plum escaped a lynching yesterday, and she didn't really even defend herself. I'm too lazy to go look back at the old posts, but it was something along the lines of, "yeah okay whatever i give up, btw hope mafia wins." Yeah, something like that. Plum, why did you give up so easily? I seriously just held suspicions against you because of your dodgy posting stuff.
I's back like I said! Sorry I didn't do exactly what you told me to do Gant, but I'm not just going to ignore my suspicions when you said "don't look at what the person before me did, ignore the last 3 days!" XD That just makes you more suspicious.
I think Gant was just saying that he wouldn't be able to defend whatever the other person said. He wasn't telling us to ignore it. Though, I don't really see what's the problem. As long as you know who you are and read through the posts well enough, then you should be fine ...
He did mean ignore it :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by gant
that's what really gets me XD don't see why a pro-town would say that when they've barely got suspicion on them ...so he was mentioned once, it wasn't even a strong mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by gant
Well about Jean too, I didn't mention it because I didn't know Jean is a smart player, but, because anyone who listens him so much is dumb town or knows that Jean is town ...meaning they are mafia. There were some other ppl i got that vibe from but Gant was the one that stuck out most ...there's no way these people can know unless they are the cop and say "I investigated Jean Will and Apollo, they're all innocent!" etc whatever or something, and, no way all these people can all be cops XD ... just seemed scummy.
God finally caught up. Damn there's so much more talking in this game then past ones. XD
And Levian was town? But Levian is never town. :mad2:
I'm glad to see no one died last night. Looks like we have either a bulletproof role or another doctor type role. Still sucks that we lost one doctor though. I really had my money on Godot being scum.
I see a little was brought up against me about inactivity, and to be honest some cases I didn't have as much to contribute that wasn't already said, and I've been uber tired from too much work. I have a partner but he honestly hasn't even logged on once. :mad2:
Though honestly I'm surprised I didn't get more people calling me out as scum. Regardless I still wanna defend myself against some of Ema's accusations.
Firstly to start I voted Mia because between her and Hotti we had one possible scum and one possible cop. I went with the safest option, believing in the cop role claim. It didn't work as I got the last vote on a townie which made my decision to go for Hotti the next day on thoughts of him being scum quite warranted I do believe.Quote:
Miles comes out as the last voter for Mia Fey, moving his vote from Phoenix Wright to her. Moves his vote off the person he votes for to join the person he voted for against Mia? WTF, mate? I know it was only Day 1 and things happen, just sayin' it's a bitto weirdo to me.
As far as the "WTF" comment. I don't understand. You seem to be saying it's weird that I voted Mia because Phoenix Wright did. But in the vote count you yourself posted it shows that his vote was only previously on her. To me it seems a bit weird what your trying to get at by wrong information here.
As far as who I'm suspecting now, Luke has some suspicion in my eye, but not the most. Lamiroir seems one of the strangest to me at the moment as many have brought up, but I'll need to read over some more to get a better grasp. Plum is another one that I still find suspicious, I just didn't like how fast she gave up and just how quickly suspicion fell off of her. I'm still not quite sure what to think of her.
I don't have enough suspicion though to warrant a vote on anyone, so I'll hold off for the moment. To be honest I might be a bit lacking in this day just due to work (I just got off and I work again in 12 hours X.X ) but I'll try my best to keep up.
As far as what to take from yesterday. Godot is confirmed doctor. I think it would be good to especially look into who voted for him and those suspicious against him (yes even me) I would be surprised if no mafia went after him, so chances are at least one person that worked on lynching him was scum. It's something I'm planning to look over when I get more of a chance.
Again, that was my first real post. The entire idea of that post was to make clear that I cannot defend the actions of my predeccesor.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
So you bringing up stuff from 3 days ago doesnt really help as all I can do is stand here, smile and wonder why the hell the other guy did all that.
But seeing as saying that made people mention it even more, I see that intelligence is once again second place in mafia, and therefore wasn't a great move, as it takes the focus off of you and Luke.
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Originally Posted by [M] Valant Gramarye
I UnVoted Godot before he was lynched.:mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Judge
I am just going to vote plum here for two reasons. One I have said before and many other people also have. the other needs some explanation and a roleclaim. I am a Roleblocker. Last night, I roleblocked Plum. I think this might be a reason why there were no kills. I am not entirely sure, and it isn't 100%, but I think with everything else, it is enough to vote her.
I said in the question thread that I had a plan for godot. I was gonna block him and see how many kills there were in the next day. It wouldn't have been 100%, but I still think it would have been enough.
##vote: Plum
[2] [M] Lamiroir: [M] Franziska von Karma [M] Furio Tigre
[2] [M] Luke Atmey: [M] Dick Gumshoe [M] Bikini [M] Franziska von Karma
[1] [M] Damon Gant: [M] Lamiroir
[1] [M] Plum Kitaki: [M] Will Powers
About 5 hours left in the day.
That's interesting. Can we assume there's another doctor too though? With 25 people, I think there's got to be more than one protector.
##Vote: Damon Gant
This is for reasons I've already stated. It's definitely odd that Kristoph was killed when his sole action in the game was to vote for Damon (unless I missed a few posts). He may be a replacement but his role is still the same, and that role is likely scum.
Edit: Well I'm off to bed. Later taters.
Will, that's some persuasive claiming. Not that it would be that informative, but maybe you could go over who you roleblocked the other two nights?
The evidence against Plum is now pretty strong, at least if we are to believe Will Powers (I don't see any reason not to, but we have to be cautious so we don't lose any more Townies). Luke's still on my suspect list, and now so is Lamiroir (sidenote: stop spelling this name wrong! it's right next to their posts! :mad2:).
Hey Gant, I never really considered you a suspect the first three days. Now I'm changing my outlook. Why the paranoia, mate?
Speaking of paranoia, I was being paranoid in my roleclaiming. It was not a smart move, I'll admit that. I've played Mafia before, just differently, and I was wrong in the way I've been playing this role.
Why did you colour this text purple? MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE MY PURPLE HEADED WARRIOR BABY.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Will Powers
But uh...I don't get that plan.
Hmm. So maybe Plum isn't mafia and you're still fishing as to why the kill didn't work? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Can you say, "Set Up?". Really now no mafia with half a brain would off a guy under those conditions. It's too obvious. Let alone should someone consider THAT to be a sole reason to vote someone off when more people have far better reasons to vote against them. Luke is smelling more and more like scum to me now.Quote:
It's definitely odd that Kristoph was killed when his sole action in the game was to vote for Damon (unless I missed a few posts).
As far as Will goes, I kind of believe him. Last night no kill, so that could mean several things, a recruit happened, a protector role did their job, or a role blocker blocked the right person.
My main reason for believing in Will's claim for Plum is simply because it would be a bad move for a mafia to make a random claim. If we kill Plum and she flips scum, then Will knew one way or the other she was scum. But if she's town he's either another Hotti or a mafia trying to get a townie killed, which would be a dumb move as clearly tomorrow we would lynch Will so it would be one dead townie for the price of a mafia. Bad move no matter how you slice it.
Although with role blocker there's no garentee that he blocked the kill however, which is the only problem I see here.
I agree with edgy in that there is no way of knowing if a kill was blocked or not.
I'm starting to think Will is innocent, cause I can't see a Mafia pulling Role blocker out on us unless he is a Prostitute, and can thus prove he can block roles much like a Roleblocker.
In a sense this is the same as telling a cop to investigate you if you're the Godfather.
However with that Idea being thrown around already I doubt a Mafia would try it with their Roleblocker, so for now I think I'll believe Mr. Powers.
However, if Plum IS a killer, I believe she is one of three things.
Note, if any of this is wrong feel free to correct me.
1) If Mafia Godftather is roleblocked, Mafia Kill doesn't go off. (I believe it said this was only an optional rule, so If your honor would be so kind as to clarify what would happen in this situation, I'd be grateful.)
2) A serial Killer being blocked will stop their kill.
So, if Plum is Scum, she is likely one of those two roles.
But again, there are so many things that could have happened, that I'm not willing to use this against Plum quite yet. (Not saying I won't in the future though, as it could play an interesting piece in the puzzle).
However, for the again reason that so many things could have happened, it was a rather bad time to Roleclaim, as it hasn't really gotten us anywhere, and has revealed a town power role.
If you wouldn't mind, who were your Night 1-3 roleblocks, since this role is now out n the open.
And by one of three things, I meant one of two things. :p
Alrighty, I'm going to be busy the rest of the day, so I shall put my vote in. For Luke.
It's disappointing that I won't be able to see Will's roleblock choices until the day is over! And nothing else from Luke or Lamiroir, either. Ah well.
Hopefully I'll see most of you fine people again on Day 5!
##Vote: Luke Atmey
Oh yes, Will! Godot's role was green, and Hotti's was green when they announced his lynching, so why is yours purple?
I think a town roleblocker's role colour is purple.
Yeah that's what I asked, but I did so in a way that wasn't obvious as hell :p
Speaking of obvious, am I the only one who thinks Wesley Stickler is obviously trying to make a move on me?
I know Plum, I was ju ...Lol that's you. Don't you have anything else to say about the roleblock ...?
I've never even heard of that rule, so that's a negative. xPQuote:
1) If Mafia Godftather is roleblocked, Mafia Kill doesn't go off. (I believe it said this was only an optional rule, so If your honor would be so kind as to clarify what would happen in this situation, I'd be grateful.)
Day 2 stuff.
I'm pretty sure Jean is not scum. Secondly, what? Attack inactives when they start doing something? That's point of going after inactives: they're not doing anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Damon Gant
Same thing. I think Jean is a good guy and inactives should be persecuted.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Damon Gant
Same as Will's comment before on Day 1; I don't like it when people say obvious, obvious things like this. Sounds fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix Wright
Still pulling the chain lynch scheme from what it seems to me. Also stringing Godot into it. Possible foreshadowing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon Gant
I agree. And in actuality, you said it before I did. But that doesn't change the fact that I think you and probably another were the one(s) doing the scum work in that vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix Wright
To me, it's like you're trying to show everyone some internal struggle. I'm not buying it at all. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix Wright
I like the list you made. Mostly because I suspect you as scum so that leads me to believe you've stuck a scum name in there with you. (i.e. Will Powers.) :choc2:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix Wright
I find myself agreeing with you a lot, Franziska. Makes me feel sorry for voting for you on Day 1. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Franziska von Karma
Don't forget about Plum, people. Tigre, in my opinion, isn't sending off the vibes. But you guys have the right to think what you want about him. I'm totally unsure about him to be honest.
Same as I said above. Plum is chilling in the shadows and she's getting away with it even with her name being thrown around all over the place. What a hell's goin' on?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Godot
Hehe. Here comes the fun part of my post. :choc2:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Will Powers
I don't believe you. Mostly because I don't like you but secondly because I'm a Roleblocker. I find it hard to believe that there would be two. :monster:
You've been #1 on my bad man list and now you've really tripped the OH SHI- alarm. Plus, you bring up Plum as your proof when I really suspect her as well. Maybe to take some heat off of her since people are bringing up her name way too often? I think both of you are give me an S, give me a C, give me a U, give me an M. SCUM.
Die right now, Will Powers. :bigsmile:
What's with all this color debate in this game? We've always used those colors for telling roles previously. Although Cult was a dark purple and Role blocker was light purple. :p
Alright, just making sure. :p
So to shorten down what I said, if Plum is a Killer, she's likely a Serial Killer then. :p
Mind you thats just a guess and a possobility that is open due to your claim. She could still very well be Mafia Scum and all night kills were either not preformed for some reason or stopped.
Though Plums lack of trying to defned herself lends suspicion to the Anti-Plum Case.
And since I forgot this:
##Vote: Will Powers
God damn it.
Another Roleblocker claim
I don't know what to believe anymore.
What? The. Hell?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ema Skye
Gimme a sec.
Okay then, both of you, who did you role block nights 1-3?
Wow, very interesting.
This is how I see things. I agree with Ema there aren't two Roleblockers, therefore one of you is mafia. My guess is that Will has a role that will get him out of him being wrong about Plum which is why he was willing to make that argument (Godfather, a role that kills himself any would do). The fact that he could be wrong and his roleclaim would still be possible makes it more likely.
I'm close to changing my vote, but before I do, who did you block Ema?
I don't see a way of defending myself, that's why.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bikini
Alright then. Have a cop investigate us both.
I blocked Jean Night 1. Only one kill, so I blocked Jean again Night 2. Two kills Night 2 so I switched it up. I "also" blocked Plum on Night 3. :choc2:
Will an innocent investigation doesn't prove anything. It also requires us to draw out a cop making a mafian roleclaim worth it. +2 scummienes.
Unvote: Luke
Vote: Will Powers
Wow, lots of new stuffs while I was out with my dad for father's day :Oo: I will catch up tomorrow morning, as I've had a particularly draining day and I need my sleep.
Later. :aimkiss:
If Will - handsome man he is - is telling the truth, why would he claim? A roleblock followed by no night kill isn't really proof of anything.
The purple thing shoots up flags because yeah, Doctor is green, Insane Cop was green, and my own non-vanilla role that could conceivably have a different colour has green text too.
But then
if he's scum, why would he claim roleblocker falsely?
Seriously, what the hell does he have to gain from getting Plum lynched when a lot of you think that's a good idea to begin with? Unless maybe she's one of his own, and he's bussing her to prove his roleblocker claim or something.
2 role blockers? Not a chance. One of you is lying. Clearly.
That's awfully convenient. Same night 3 block as the first role claim. I don't think that means your the lying one, but I still find it a bit fishy.Quote:
I "also" blocked Plum on Night 3.
Will what was your first 2 night blocks?
I dont need to block anyone if I dont need to, as it says in my role pm, so night one I was afraid of getting cop and decided not to block anyone. Night two I blocked Tigre, because I thought he might have been scum, acting like plum.
@Jean: The mafia could be closer to winning then we think, or perhaps he has a role which controlling this days vote would be conivient (mafia janitor anyone?). Either way one is lying so one must go.
I have a very large post typed up, but first. Will, why did you write your role as purple?
I didnt like how it was green. It has always been purple and damnit it should stay that way.
So it was green in your role PM?
Ema, did your role PM say you didn't have to roleblock if you didn't want to as well?
I don't suppose we have a Watcher in the house, do we? I think I might have been a bit of a magnet for night actions on Night 1 and 2 so hopefully they watched me.Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miles
You could be right there, my little sweetcake. Although if they were going down the Janitor route, a cop/tracker gambit would be a hell of a lot better than a Roleblocker one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Gumshoe
Another alternative is that we do actually have two Roleblockers.
If you are telling the truth, you just screwed yourself over with your colour preferences. I don't like how it took you so long to answer this question, like you were thinking of an excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will
For the record, it's Cult Leader that is purple. This is more of a roleblocker colour.
True but we already had an insane cop perhaps they didn't think we'd buy it? I know just last game I had come up with a plan to user a mafia poisoner to dely a kill a day, then claim I protected (scummate) to clear a name. Perhaps the new team is thinking something similar? I doubt we'd have two roleblockers, WITH a Doctor.
I said this 2 minutes after this post here...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Stop! (Drop! And roll!) I'm coming out (of the closet). ^_^
Hi. I'm your friendly resident Cop. For the record, it wasn't blue, it was exactly that color.
Here's the thing. I doubt the mods would put two insane cops in, and I doubt that I would be a naive cop either, seeing as how one of the mods has told me on multiple occasions that he/she does not like naive cops. I'm going to assume, for the moment, that I am a normal, sane cop.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Yes, I was intentionally staying low. And I was intentionally typing like an idiot. Staying low suited me because it made me just suspicious enough so that I was being mentioned and kept on the suspicion list, but not enough so that people voted for me. Being a suspect would guarantee that I didn't die at night. I said yesterday I would be more active today because I planned on coming out today anyway, but after Godot's death I thought I would potentially hold off another day, seeing as how I kinda needed him. I also knew Jean would get super paranoid and make way too much out of my posts as soon as he knew who I was, and that it was bad if any mafia could figure out who I was.
Now, here's the confusing part. Will's purple - hmm. Ema's coming out to claim roleblocker - that puts suspicion on Will. ...But I investigated Will. I don't see why he would claim roleblocker if he wasn't, and I don't see even more why Ema would claim roleblocker if she actually wasn't.
Night 1: Jean Armstrong. I invesigated him because I noticed right away who played his character, and I wanted this person either out of my way or out of my suspicions ASAP.
Night 2: Will Powers. I think some of his posts brought up some suspicions. I also saw him as a lay-lower who could potentially be intelligent. I didn't investigate Godot because I was gullible and actually believed Demon Dude. Hell, he was a cop - how the heck am I supposed to guess that he didn't investigate anyone? Fail as hell! Yeah, I figured an investigation on Godot would be a wasted one at that point.
Night 3: Apollo Justice. I was having a hard time deciding between Apollo Justice, Pheonix Wright, and Damon Gant. Pheonix made himself slightly more of a presence than Apollo, and I figured that if Apollo did indeed turn out to be innocent, I would have a stronger case against Damon Gant. Whereas, if Damon turned out to be innocent, I would really have no idea where to go next.
I tried to avoid investigating people that already had a lot of suspicion placed on them due to the possibility of a mafia framer. The judge wouldn't give me my results before the night was over due to "outside factors," and what those are, your guess is as good as mine. It could have just been the roleblocker(s?), or there can be other factors as well.
Now, could any of these people I investigated be the godfather? Sure. Could they have been recruited last night? Sure. But I was willing to trust my investigations for the moment.
...But this double roleblocker thing is bloody confusing me. Could there be two roleblockers? Could be, but seems unlikely.
Now, I do believe there's another doctor or protective role in this game. With 2 cops and 25 people, I seriously would not be surprised if there was a white mage/another doctor of some sort/etc. So, doctor? Hi.
Except I asked you almost two hours ago and Lamiroir asked you first an hour after I did.
And Dick, oh my throbbing Dick, I had the same thought. But with the fail of their nightkill following on from the death of a doctor, presumably they will have considered the possibility of us having a roleblocker and thus the risk of being counterclaimed.
No, it didn't say I had any restrictions. I can block one person per night.
You know, someone needs to die.
Until I get confirmation on Gay boys role, I'll not be satisfied with his deductions of Mafia targeting him. But really outside of my nervousness, I can't find much reason to suspect hm of anything, so I'll hold off for now and re-examine his posts later.
Luke and Damon are still top suspects.
And finally, on the whole Roleblocker situation, there are so many different reasons it could have played out like it did, I have the strongest urge not to touch this one, but it needs to be touched.
And I think Jean is the man to do it.
And after he finishes touching, hopefully I'll have thought up some good reasoning to lynch one of the smurfers, or save both their butts.
Yeah Lamiroir I knew you were Yamanekoing it from the moment I saw that post but didn't really want to say anything to draw attention to it. :p Wondered what the smurf was up with it tbh.Make no mistake, I will hold you to this.Quote:
I doubt that I would be a naive cop either, seeing as how one of the mods has told me on multiple occasions that he/she does not like naive cops.
I'M NOT 100% SURE OKAY. But I think it's safer to assume that I'm not than that I am. @_@
DAMMIT! Wait until I post before you start posting.
And I'm very hesitant to believe that Cop Claim. It's another thing I can see multiple reasonings for, and why a Cop would have left Hotti alone after his claim and waited, and why a Mafia would wait this long to claim.
So we'd best be hearing your reasoning soon for not saying something earlier about Godot.
Regardless, I probably won't vote you, as I have Ideas as of why you would myself.
I'd just rather here them from you now. :p
Wow.
Hot damn.
Anyway, call me a sucker but I guess I have to believe that roleclaim.
##Unvote: Will
##Vote: Ema
OKAY! I hate missing too much time, I can't ever get completely back on track >.<
...but here's what I think:
There is absolutely no way we have two Role Blockers and a doctor, unless one of them is scum.. Either Emma or Will is scum and/or lying.
I didn't say go after Ema either. I really, really don't see why Ema would claim roleblocker as well. I mean, if we got Will killed today and he actually was a roleblocker, wouldn't that just make everyone want to lynch her tomorrow?
Bikini you're crackin' ;D Learn to read. See night 2 investigation - I said why I didn't investigate Godot.
Just a sidenote, If a godfather gets investigated, it turns up green.
Anyway, A cop roleclaim is easy to check. Because the doctor is now gone, either laminoir is going to get killed tonight, he is scum, or the mafia will be roleblocked.
The last option I doubt, because in the only two games where I played mafia they have to choose who does the kill. so Im guessing they will switch the kill to someone we have no clue of after a blocked kill.
One thing I find very curious. The only three people that Laminoir investigated are two people the previous confirmed cop investigated.. and the one that is being suspected of bad roleclaiming right now.
Perhaps a last ditch effort to keep a mafia alive?
I do not believe this roleclaim, as it seems awfully convenient. Two investigations would be "confirmed" and one would clear someone who is suspected.
Reeks of scumminess.
I'm pretty sure that Laminoir and Luke are in the same mix, whatever it is(mason, cult or mafia). About the roleclaims I would have no idea, as they could both be true.
I'll let you guys decide whether or not you want to lynch one of those two today.
I'm all for continuing discussion on it after the alleged Cop posts responding to me, but I'm not sure I'll be inclined to change my vote to either one, as Luke is still my topic suspect, as there is not real way to know if Ema is guilty right now.
If this is a face Roleclaim, we're taking the bait.
If it's real, there's still a chance of a second roleblocker, and I'd like to wait a night to give the supposed Cop another investigation to try and gauge a bit more trust in her.
So, until further notice, my vote sticks with Luke.
I don't care about Godot, I want to know why you said nothing about the other cop claim, something other then "Lay Low".
Ha ha, funny, Damon. Interesting. So if I don't get killed tonight, I'm scum? What makes you think there can't be two doctors? I think there is.
Also, I don't know what mafia game you've been playing if you think the "other cop" investigated anyone.
Seriously, if someone else wants to come out and contradict what I said, go on. I dare you. And after I get lynched or killed, you'll know you're next. ;) (Okay, I guess there COULD be three cops, but I'm going to doubt that very much)
I have no possible reason for coming out right now if I weren't really the cop, seeing the controversy between Ema and Will. For now, we need to decide what to do today, because we have what, 2 hours left?
Because there could bloody well have been two cops, as we find out now. :P
Alright, I was hoping if you were lying you would slip up and say something stupid. :p
For now though, there really isn't anything to gauge from that.
Really thats the last Idea I had up my sleeve. :p
Wait what? You'd believe there's two doctors and a roleblocker? But you don't buy two roleblockers? -1 on your roleclaim.
Okay, next thought. They COULD both be roleblockers, but why would Will have that he didn't have to roleblock anyone in his role PM, and Ema didn't? If they were both roleblockers, I'm guessing they would have similar role PMs, right?
...Why would the mods even write that in?
Theory: Is Will the Godfather, looking to sacrifice Plum (fellow mafian - yes I said mafian, hah xD) to bring more credibility to himself?
Yes, I find two roleblockers highly unlikely. See above.
Doctors and cops are important roles that are in every game. Roleblockers aren't.
Also, I'm really lost on where to go right now. Everyone else's opinions are appreciated.
Whatever happens, whether you are a real cop or not, it was a seriously stupid move. Because if there is another doctor, then he has to keep protecting you now. And what did you really solve with the claim?
That two people who weren't under suspection were town. And that Will speaks the truth, so the other one lies?
If there are two doctors, there can be two roleblockers.. You revealed nothing!
Im pretty sure I'll get killed tonight, but as a last stand:
##vote: Laminoir
And don't you tell me I have no reason. You were jumping on me on reasons that are irrelevant, make a huge roleclaim and then if you were a real cop, which is about 50-50 for me now, you just screwed up badly.
Nothing good came and will come from this claim. And therefore, I believe you are either a very smart mafia, or a very bad cop.
edit: also, there's this thing called an edit-button.
Well, I've done some thinking
*CHINRUB*
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...and I think between Willy and Ems, Will is the liar and/or scum here.
##Vote: Will Powers
Lmao, Damon. I'm not even going to respond to that. xD I'm really tempted to just stick with you today.
The Godfather putting himself out in this kind of position is highly unlikely.
Why would such a powerful Mafia role stick his neck out like this, when there really isn't a need?
He would have to have some kind of contingency plan to keep himself safe, and banking on a Cop having investigated him is a horribly flimsly plan if you ask me.
So if anything, I do believe Will is innocent if anything.
However, I still have nothing on Ema, and I'm tempted to believe she's guilty.
And finally, the roles aren't likely to be forced to do something everynight unless otherwise stated, such as the Over-eager Vigilante.
So really, there shouldn't be anything forcing a roleblocker to block each night.
I wish we had a multilynch game. Because I just want to lynch you all Dx
Exactly. You wouldn't have to do something every night unless otherwise stated, so I don't know why Will said the mods stated that.
I mean, in my PM, it sure as hell didn't say I had to investigate someone every night. And I'm sure I don't HAVE to if I didn't want to.
I'm buying Ema's roleclaim over Will's right now, but I also don't want to go against my investigation, so I don't know.
I do believe it was the first night where Judge said to send in night actions if you were going to do any, however people didn't have to perform any night actions (As was evident with DD).Quote:
They COULD both be roleblockers, but why would Will have that he didn't have to roleblock anyone in his role PM, and Ema didn't?
I'm still at a loss at which of the 2 is lying. If Will is lying then he's either God Father or Lamiroir is lying about being cop.
However I got my suspicions at both and I can't quite decide who to pick of the 2.
I should really stop voting because I really don't know who I want to vote for. I'm going to take time to think about this.
##Unvote: Ema
Add didn't. "I mean, in my PM, it sure as hell didn't say I didn't have to investigate someone every night."Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Because of the PM descrepancy, I think one of the two are lying as well.
I still think Damon Gant is suspicious though, or at least dumb. Maybe both. Actually, dumb regardless. xD Gah, sorry hun, but seriously. Care to explain why you kept bringing up investigations?
Also care to explain when, after you so nicely set up the chain lynch for Godot on day 2, as someone posted earlier, you were one of the people so adamantly saying we shouldn't lynch Godot on day 3?
Also, between Will and Ema, IF one is mafia and one is town, then what does that say about Plum? I think we can safely assume that in any case, Plum was roleblocked. Why would the mafia want to claim that themselves?
Actually that is a very good point. I'm so tired I can hardly think at the moment. But you bring up a good point which is making me look at Ema with more of an urge to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bikini
While Will still holds some suspicion in my eyes, Ema is taking the lead of the 2 at the moment.
Okay, wow, three roleclaims in such little time. And at least one of you is lying, or maybe even two. Maybe all of you or none of you, but I'm going to assume that at least one of you guys are lying. Before I start believing anything or anyone, though:
What is with those quotation marks?! They're throwing me off! xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ema Skye
Good job Capt'n Obvious. xD If I didn't investigate you, I'd be like wow, wishy washy. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Apollo Justice
Ema is trying to say that Will didn't actually roleblock.
Omg, are you serious.. are you reeeeealy serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lamiroir
Are you really asking me to explain why I did something before I started playing? After I just said three times that I would not be able to answer that? And you call me dumb? learn-to-read.
I brought up your investigations once, as they seemed awfully convenient, seeing that the last confirmed cop investigated the same.
Seriously, dont depend too much on that last braincell. It appereantly hasnt improved your reading skills and it doesnt do much else.
Why dont you think up some real explination for your own actions before calling me dumb to call you on it.
I dont' see will as saying the Mods said Spefically they stated he didn't have to investigate someone, though I can see how it could be taken that way. I just happen to know people who talk similar to that. :p
And we don't have enough time for you to think things over Gumshoe.
So I believe we should vote for one of the other suspicious party, not the roleblocker incident people.
Basically the best targets I see right now are Gant and Luke, though Gant is really pushing me to want to vote for him, I'm sticking with Luke for now.
Care to explain what last confirmed cop did what? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Damon Gant
And the last cop NEVER investigated anyone.
Just look at the Judges posts after he was lynched.
Plus, he claimed Mia, who was lynched, and Godot, who was Lynched.
None of the ones this cop investigated were done by Hotti.
I'll tell you one thing I'm specifically stating. I'm specifically stating that the two of you need to stop insulting each other. :mad2:
On a side note, double posting is not only allowed in Mafia, but encouraged because it prevents people from deleting important information from their posts.
And to make things simple
Hotti investigated - Godot, Mai/
Person with hard name investigated - Jean, Will, and Apollo.
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bikini
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Will Powers
Alright, I don't know who to vote for in this mess. I fell whoever I vote for in this big roleclaim fest would be a mistake so I'm going to go with my original susipicions.
##Vote: Luke
Could we have a count and time, Judgey? :3
[3] [M] Lamiroir: [M] Franziska von Karma [M] Furio Tigre [M] Damon Gant
[3] [M] Luke Atmey: [M] Bikini [M] Dick Gumshoe [M] Franziska von Karma[M] Wesley Stickler
[2] [M] Will Powers: [M] Ema Skye [M] Phoenix Wright [M] Dick Gumshoe
[1] [M] Damon Gant: [M] Lamiroir
[1] [M] Plum Kitaki: [M] Will Powers
[1] [M] Damon Gant: [M] Luke Atmey
[0] [M] Ema Skye: [M] Dick Gumshoe
EDIT: Ha, I read your mind. xP
As I said, I actually know people who talk like that and would mean it that it never said that they HAD to block someone. :p
I have odd friends.
Oh wait.. gimme a sec, I think I read wrong.
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