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    Square Enix: Current Console Generation Has Lasted "Way Too Long" - IGN

    So the argument here is that Squenix feels Sony and Microsoft have let their high tech consoles outstay their welcome and now developers are jumping ship to browser based games and iOS products because those platforms have finally had time to grow into something comparable to the console. They go on to predict that many of these developers will probably stay on these easier business models instead of jumping into the next console generation. So Squenix feels that Sony and Microsoft should release the X-Box 720 and PS4 ASAP.

    Course this is coming from the people who designed the Agni Tech Demo so I can see how they may want to really implement that, course the other side of me feels that Versus XIII may have grown too big for the PS3 and they want a new console as well.

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    I can certainly see where they're coming from, but by the same token, I'm glad we haven't stepped up to a newer generation just yet. I barely have enough time to catch up and enjoy it before we're moving onto the next. I want them to slow down or me to be rich. Latter, preferably, but we don't live in a perfect world.

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    Probably because the next FF game is on hold until they have the opportunity to make a whole new graphics engine for a new console. What else can they spend the development budget on?
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    I just got a ps3 a week ago and not releasing FFXV on the ps3 would destroy the whole three numbered ff's per console tradition theyve stuck to all these years! Everyone knows the 3rd FF installment on a console is usually a Gem!
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    Sounds pretty passive-aggressive to me. Plenty of people still play the PS3 and XBox so I don't see why there needs to be a rush into the next gen.

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    People in glass houses, Square Enix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    So the argument here is that Squenix feels Sony and Microsoft have let their high tech consoles outstay their welcome and now developers are jumping ship to browser based games and iOS products because those platforms have finally had time to grow into something comparable to the console. They go on to predict that many of these developers will probably stay on these easier business models instead of jumping into the next console generation. So Squenix feels that Sony and Microsoft should release the X-Box 720 and PS4 ASAP.
    I don't know how the shift to more mobile platforms worked in Japan, but I like that they seem to have no understanding of how the rise of the more casual gaming platforms even happened in the West. And I mean literally no clue. Companies making games for consoles did not suddenly abandon consoles to make iPhone or Facebook games. Indie's and startup's were the ones who really drove those markets, then bigger companies tried to get a piece of the pie in addition to the console market.

    I also enjoy the irony of Square wanting a new console generation humorous since they've been so bad at getting their FF titles out with the current technology. If they got their wish and had new consoles this year or next, I could only hope they've finally got their trout together enough to cope because spending five years in development just to have a repeat of FFXIII wouldn't be acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flambard D'Quinceteth View Post
    People in glass houses, Square Enix.
    for real.

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    FF14 was announced 7 years ago.

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    Isn't a console generation supposed to last ten years or so? I thought that was the theory. If so, then the PS3 still has a ways to go yet.

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    Not quite... Usually a console is supported for 10 years or so (even longer in Japan) but a new console generation will pop up midway or towards the end of another cycle. Playstation was released in 94, PS2 was released in 2000, and PS3 was released in 2006, so technically SE has a bit of a point since Sony doesn't want to talk about the next console generation, probably because they still haven't made all their money back from this generation.

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    This kinda reminds me of what the Crysis makers said about consoles slowing down PC. I mean, they said that PC games could be way more technologically advanced if it weren't for the console market and the urge to go multiplatform. Or some oither trout. I cannot make sense today, sorry

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    Man, I didn't realise game developers were such whiny little bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    I don't know how the shift to more mobile platforms worked in Japan, but I like that they seem to have no understanding of how the rise of the more casual gaming platforms even happened in the West. And I mean literally no clue. Companies making games for consoles did not suddenly abandon consoles to make iPhone or Facebook games. Indie's and startup's were the ones who really drove those markets, then bigger companies tried to get a piece of the pie in addition to the console market.

    I also enjoy the irony of Square wanting a new console generation humorous since they've been so bad at getting their FF titles out with the current technology. If they got their wish and had new consoles this year or next, I could only hope they've finally got their tit together enough to cope because spending five years in development just to have a repeat of FFXIII wouldn't be acceptable.
    Took the words right from my... keyboard.

    To toss in my own trite, subjective two cents, this past year by and large had the best additions to be PS3 and Xbox library - Skyrim, Dark Souls, Deus Ex HR (a SE-published title, no less), Portal 2, Rayman Origins, The Witcher 2. Awesome games that probably took a hell of a lot of dev time, and probably not possible if you're running on something like 5-year console cycles.

    I don't want to see devs stumble through new tech just because it's new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flambard D'Quinceteth View Post
    Man, I didn't realise game developers were such whiny little bitches.

    LOL.


    Graphics are overrated anyway- I would rather play a game that is great with crappy graphics than vice versa. To this day I like ps2 and ps1 games and after getting into them- you don't even really notice.

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    I would hate to play a game with crappy graphics. I don't, however, care if the graphics are very technically advance or extremely detailed. They just have to look good, not flashy. Simple can look great.
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