The reasons why FFVII gamers can choose to ignore The Compilation if they wish

[Ryushikaze]

Like I said, some people are blinded because they can't handle more then one type of canon - the official one.

That's the only type of canon there IS. That's the entire point of the term.

Honestly, I don't know why I bother discussing this with you anymore. If Square Enix announced something stupid like "Final Fantasy VII: Drunken Party at The Gold Saucer Edition" is up next, you would have considered in canon because it was official (judging by your posts).

If it was part of the overall continuity of FF7, then yes, it would be within the canon. I wouldn't necessarily like it being there, but my whim, nor your whim, cannot change what is in the canon.

Still, I'll try one more time...

Try all you like. The fact of the matter is that by the nature of what a 'canon' is, all retcons SE makes are part of the canon.

Well I can't decide anything no, because I don't work for SE and so I can't provide you with any official information. Does that mean people can't see anything for themselves these days?

No. But this isn't something you can 'see for yourself'. The canon is an official fiat handed down from the creators.

You don't get the point alright.

No. I GET the point. Your point is invalid.

You don't have to be SE in order to contribute with some information based on common sense.

Actually, you do have to be SE to contribute to FF7's canon. Now, if you mean "You don't have to be SE to comprehend and elucidate information based on common sense", then I would agree. This is, however, irrelevant to the topic at hand, as canon is not something you piece together.

NO IT CAN'T. I'll even tell you why. THERE ARE PLOT HOLES IN THERE.

Then stop smegging telling me that there are plot holes and TELL ME WHAT THESE GORRAM PLOT HOLES ARE! Most of the smegging plot holes people crow about are nothing more than strawmen! So PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

At least make an attempt at getting my point before adding an answer to that quote.

I get your point. My point, however, is that the entirety of what you propose is fanon.

I haven't said that either.

Then explain the point of bringing it up.

Since i don't know anything about Star Wars, I don't know how that went.

Changes to an existing work were made. The movie was changed. There is still only one canon.

Yes.

Meaning that everything they produce is there to rake in money. Including FF7.

Yeah right :eep: . Like if I haven't presented you with numerous arguments already. This is a quick way of explaining it, it goes together with my other arguments.

But none of your arguments have been substantiated yet.

I referred to the fact that they are milking the concept. I've already answered this question so why do I get this feeling you haven't read my posts too well :rolleyes2 ?

Because I know you haven't been reading mine, or at the very least taking the time to understand what I've been saying.

There are a lot of fanon out there, yes. However I've already told you several times why this isn't.

No, you've explained several times why this isn't a really valid point and i'm impressed by your thinking. of fanon. You've never told me why it isn't what fanon actually means.

You just don't notice because you don't think there is the slightest possibility of official being wrong.

A really valid point and i'm impressed by your thinking..

And in one way that's true. The Compilation is canon because it's official. Still, try catching my point and see there are two versions of FFVII, even if SE don't say so.

No. There is only one version of FF7. Anything that has been retconned has been PRUNED. It NO LONGER MATTERS. If George Lucas released a new version of Star Wars where the Death Star Exploded into billions of fish, stupid as that is, it would be canon. The previous versions would be as if they had never existed! It's the same with FF7!

After all, they haven't denied it either. You don't have to be Einstein to tell, you just don't notice because like I said, some go blind when facing this kind of information :tongue: .

"Because SE hasn't said 'there aren't two versions of the story' there are two canons". Errrr, no.

Unfortunately they don't. Like I stated in my first post SE don't just add fillers, they alter the original script. They're providing us with retcon in other words.

Which in no way changes the fact that said changes are canon.