Okay, I'm going to approach this from a different angle.

It appears that everyone agrees that FFVII made great strides forward in the series in different areas, whether it be graphics, story or other areas. What seems to be the object of debate now is whether or not these advancements are revolutionary and can be attributed to FFVII. grim07, you keep saying that because people admit to these advancements, it proves they are revolutionary. You need to now show why they are revolutionary rather than advancements now. The reason people stopped posting or ignoring what you've previously written is because your responses can be summarized as "Everyone said that FFVII made advancements, and because I think these advancements are revolutionary I win.", when in fact you need to prove/explain why these are revolutionary versus advancements. You can't assume that an advancement is in and of itself a revolution, you have to prove that it is a revolution instead of an advancement or your arguement is null and void because you have failed to defend yourself properly.

And finally, please don't say "I win, you lose." or some variation thereof. There has been no definite winner or loser in this debate. That's why people were enjoying it earlier, because there were several opinions that were all valid. When you came in and said, "See, I'm right and you're wrong." and started ignoring what people wrote and wouldn't defend yourself in regards to their comments, people quit replying to the thread because it's like trying to debate with a brick wall, and that's annoying.