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    sephiroth, when you firght him in north crater just after you beat jenova and hojo...i hate his crab legs so much, his supernova beat me after about 45 turns, got turned into damn frogs and ran out of mp and items he could easily beat sin with a couple of supernovas, and maybe metora!

    I will kill you where you stand!

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    Lets add the huge amount of HP of Sin into the equation if we're talking about battle moves and mechanics.

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    Plus the fact that Sephiroth dies from a single attack from Cloud. And Sin is only about a thousand times more powerful than Cloud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firo Volondé View Post
    Plus the fact that Sephiroth dies from a single attack from Cloud. And Sin is only about a thousand times more powerful than Cloud.
    Yeah, and Sephiroth is only about a thousand times more powerful than Cloud too. But he lost to Cloud in that fight of AC, because he wasn't even trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crystal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Firo Volondé View Post
    Plus the fact that Sephiroth dies from a single attack from Cloud. And Sin is only about a thousand times more powerful than Cloud.
    Yeah, and Sephiroth is only about a thousand times more powerful than Cloud too. But he lost to Cloud in that fight of AC, because he wasn't even trying.
    You have been told this several times, but never seem to get it.

    Him not trying means his attacks and speed are weaker, but he should be able to take the same amount of hurt, if Mike Tyson was joking around and let me fight him without instantly dying, sure I would survive, but I wouldn't be able to go "BOOM HEADSHOT!" like Cloud did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    You have been told this several times, but never seem to get it.

    Him not trying means his attacks and speed are weaker, but he should be able to take the same amount of hurt, if Mike Tyson was joking around and let me fight him without instantly dying, sure I would survive, but I wouldn't be able to go "BOOM HEADSHOT!" like Cloud did.
    And what would happen, if he decided to create a barrier like the one in the Northern Crater, or even more powerful than it, to protect himself? Do you think Sin could esily destroy it, before Seph use the Negative Lifestream to blast Sin with an attack with the same power of the Sister Ray(remember that the cannon was using the power of the Lifestream)?

    Seriously dude, Sephiroth is not just a guy with a sword.


    And you still didn't show me where I insulted you, in that other post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crystal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    You have been told this several times, but never seem to get it.

    Him not trying means his attacks and speed are weaker, but he should be able to take the same amount of hurt, if Mike Tyson was joking around and let me fight him without instantly dying, sure I would survive, but I wouldn't be able to go "BOOM HEADSHOT!" like Cloud did.
    And what would happen, if he decided to create a barrier like the one in the Northern Crater, or even more powerful than it, to protect himself? Do you think Sin could esily destroy it, before Seph use the Negative Lifestream to blast Sin with an attack with the same power of the Sister Ray(remember that the cannon was using the power of the Lifestream)?

    Seriously dude, Sephiroth is not just a guy with a sword.
    Considering Giga Graviton looks to be just as strong as the Sister Ray, yes, also considering the power of Sin's own barrier yes, I do think Sin would win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu View Post
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    As for Machines who could destroy Sin, either SHINRA's military cannon or FFXII's Bahamut.
    By SHINRA's military cannon, do you mean the Junon Cannon or the Sister Ray? Junon cannon is a no. Sister Ray probably could though, since it skewered Diamond WEAPON and destroyed Sephiroth's barrier.
    Also, I still don't understand your argument or proof as to how Sky Fortress Bahamut could defeat Sin.
    But what should have been written is if another vilain could overpower Sin in versus Combat. Based on Size and force display abilities without the game mechanic of battle of the game.
    Then, I'd say no to maybe.
    Aren't you the one who said Ultimecia could just reduce Sin's HP to 1?
    Besides, Giga Graviton is not just battle mechanics. We've seen Sin use it outside of battle and cause lots of destruction with it. Ultimecia's Hell's Judgement only appeared in battle, so it's power can only be judged by battle mechanics.

    'oh and by the way, there attacks proved to be one hit kills too'
    What proof? The fact that they can kill something in one hit does not mean they can kill anything in one hit.


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    Even if Sin dies, it will be reborn again.
    But I thought that Sin only gets reborn if you use the Final Aeon to kill it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Other villains are very small, compared to Sin. So none of them can beat Sin, it would be a miracle if they did.
    Size doesn't really doesn't have that much influence on power. After all, Yu-Yevon himself is pretty small too.

    1-Sister Ray. (Diamonds are forever, almost...)

    2-read more carefully ''without the gameplay mechanix'', then it's no.

    3-Instant destruction such of the likes of Odin in FFVIII.


    If you use the Battle Mechanix into play, then many Vilains could easily beat Sin.
    Sin has what, 4 000HP, it's actually quite low.
    I know for a fact that I kill off Jeckt in 1 hit with Auron. ''a hit more since he hits 99 999 and missing 1 hp''

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