Nintendo Counts Down to Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[Evastio]

That's what you get for getting your hopes up.

I actually like today's update. They confirmed five stages making it back and not just one. I also happen to not hate any of those levels (but I do hate always falling down the middle hole in Yoshi's Island). Too bad they didn't confirm Mute City though. That stage has the greatest SSB music ever.

so did they probably replace Marth and Roy for Ike?

I sure hope not. Same with Ness, Falco, and Pichu. Even if certain people think having characters with similar moves are redundant. They can always change their movesets around. And I'm sure that there'd be nothing wrong with keeping their A moves somewhat the same since that's what mostly separated the clone characters from each other (eg: Falco's spike and Fox's drill kick). It'd be quite awkward if they did kick out Ness or Marth. Having Ness' hometown be playable but not Ness himself would be extremely weird. Marth having his Emblem on the Castle Siege flags in Brawl but not Marth himself is just as bad (Marth's Emblem is on his cape if you don't know what it looks like). Also Nintendo would not stick in only one Fire Emblem character in Brawl since they had two in Melee. Not after they've released the Fire Emblem series out of Japan.

Which reminds me, anybody worried about Mewtwo and Mr. Game & Watch not making it? I know that they weren't really clones of anyone else but I'm still worried about them not making it back for some reason. (particularly Mr. Game & Watch. I've actually become quite decent with him)

Also I doubt Nintendo would prioritize third party characters over their own characters. (they better not...)

[Monol]

Im thinking Ikes definatly a replacment for roy and marth.

Ness's chances arent looking so hott either...but im still not counting him out just yet.

Pichus gone and so is doc. Those two ill put ANY money on that they aint coming back. Falco and ganon are more than likely getting revamped with a new move set. Mewtwo will be back (I hope...) but Game and watch's chances arent looking so good either. Im pretty sure warios the new game and watch ("weird" "wacky" fighting style...and just look at his stage) but we wont really know until the game comes out *shrugs*

Oh and todays update wasnt TOO bad...alot of stages i like are coming back which is nice. Hopfully for a better update tommorow though.

[Evastio]

Super Smash Bros: Melee
Fire Emblem was Japan Only at the Time
2 Fire Emblem Characters: Marth and Roy

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Fire Emblem now released nationally
1 Fire Emblem Character: Ike (According to you guys)

It'd make absolutely no sense if they did remove Marth and Roy for Ike. Despite being Japan only the Fire Emblem series were represented by two characters. Do you really think that they'd reduce the amount of Fire Emblem representatives now that it's been released nationally? I know you'll just argue that they might make another Fire Emblem character from FE 7-10 playable to balance things out but that most likely won't happen, especially since they've reduced Lyn to being an assist trophy.

Sheesh, you guys just keep hoping that characters you hate don't make it in don't you...

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Roy was only included in Melee to promote Fire Emblem: The Sword of Seals, and since that game has now come and gone, he's irrelevant. So, I'd only expect to see him return if they're intent on bringing back every character from the previous game.

Marth is a different case: As the original Fire Emblem protagonist, so it would be strange for him not to be in this game.

[Creeping Shadow]

Im pretty sure marth will make it back due to his new DS game coming out since most recent games that come out around this time usually have characters in brawl. As for roy im not as sure i mean its possible but it seems kinda slim. But the characters I want to see in brawl are:

Marth
Falco
Gannondorf
Roy

It seems more likely theyll put sothe in or any other character from fire emblem 7-10.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Super Smash Bros: Melee
Fire Emblem was Japan Only at the Time
2 Fire Emblem Characters: Marth and Roy

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Fire Emblem now released nationally
1 Fire Emblem Character: Ike (According to you guys)

It'd make absolutely no sense if they did remove Marth and Roy for Ike. Despite being Japan only the Fire Emblem series were represented by two characters. Do you really think that they'd reduce the amount of Fire Emblem representatives now that it's been released nationally? I know you'll just argue that they might make another Fire Emblem character from FE 7-10 playable to balance things out but that most likely won't happen, especially since they've reduced Lyn to being an assist trophy.

Sheesh, you guys just keep hoping that characters you hate don't make it in don't you...

you mean released internationally now...
anyways, Ike is very similar to Marth/Roy's moveset. He has the sword dance ability or what not for forward B, he has counter for down B, he has a charge up "earthquake/explosion" move for regular B, and the up B move is similar except that now it has a coming down move like Kirby's.

Roy will almost definitely not be back, as they said no clones, and Ike already has the moves the two had in the previous game. Marth has better chances of being back, but I still don't believe he will be.

Ganondorf should be back, I believe there was someone who worked on the game saying he did stuff for Ganondorf. I can almost predict that his Final Smash will be like Giga Bowser, except he'll turn into Pig Gannon.
I expect Captain Falcon to be back, and Ganondorf to have a different move set, and Captain Falcon's final smash will probably involve his Blue Falcon or something. I highly doubt they'd put Samurai Goroh as an assist trophy, and then have 0 F-zero racers playable.

THE JACKEL

[Creeping Shadow]

Captian falcon will most likley be a secret character like he was in the first super smash brothers because sakurai doesnt want to reveal the secret characters on the site. I wonder if they will announce any more assist trophys.

[Roto13]

Didn't he say the 3rd party characters would be secret characters?

[Creeping Shadow]

Thats the first Ive heard of that.

[Markus. D]

Multi-Man Brawl~

An Orgy of Alloy and pwnage.

[Monol]

Hooray alloy! The yellow ones my favorite! Red one kinda looks like captain falcon...

And Evastio...I LOVE marth! Dont get me wrong but it just seems sakuris promise to not have clone characters is holding up so far. I think hes supporting this by eliminating characters with "weaker" backstorys and personalitys and either spicing them up or replacing them with "stronger" characters.

Unlike roy marth at least has a chance. But as stated earlier it looks pretty slim. Same goes for ness. Sakuri said he wanted lucas in melee but and that he wanted to replace ness but he didnt get a chance to due to time constraints. He has the chance to do so in brawl and it looks like he took it...unless hes mindgaming us till the end and STILL keeping ness (I wouldnt doubt it...). Also look at move sets. Ikes the new brute of the game so it seems (though i heard he got tweaked before brawl went "gold") and his new forward smash supports this. It has power at both the tip and middle of the blade. Also marios Fair (Or foward air) deals knockback like doctor marios fair on the front of the fist but on the pull back it meteors like marios in melee. Meaning doc is likely to be gone (and by likely he aint coming back...MAYBE as a costume). Im just saying thats some basic (though lame) evidence hinting that marth may not return. Like i said he has a chance but its slim. Id like to see him back (He is of course the ORIGINAL fire emblem protagonist) but i wouldnt be suprised if he wasnt.

Whew glad i cleared that up

[Creeping Shadow]

You make a lot of good points there and now im certain marth wont return.

[JKTrix]

The Yellow Alloy looks like a Meteos alien.

[Skyblade]

Ah, multiplayer multi-man brawls. Cool.

[Evastio]

I'm liking the Multi-Man Brawl's in Brawl. The alloys look quite cool as well. (it looks a little awkward how they're fighting outside instead of in outer space or a different dimension though. Nature and android looking things don't go well together. I really hope they don't kill Final Destination by making it have a natural look) My personal favourite would have to be the green alloy. I also like how they've made it two player now. That way you no longer have to make all of your buddies sit out while you're trying to unlock something and instead of finding the best character for Multi-Man Brawls you'll be finding the best character combination instead which makes things more interesting. I really hope they'll be making more modes multiplayer.

I'm guessing Roto13's right even though I haven't read it myself. Snake and Sonic haven't made much of an appearance in Adventure Mode or Event Matches yet. Also, Event Matches involving secret characters are usually the later ones. I'm not saying this because I'm trying to disappoint you people who like 3rd party characters but that's what the evidence is leading to.

I wouldn't give up hope yet Monol and Creeping Shadow. Until Brawl comes out and we know for sure who is and isn't in Brawl there's still hope of our favourite characters making it in (unless the Dojo confirms which characters aren't making it back which would be just cruel).