Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
The point is that Rinoa is involved, which makes it complicated.
How is Rinoa involved? Besides the fact that she she sees a cool ring on someone she has a crush on, and then asks for a copy to be made.

Really, this is getting far too much. There is no way to determine whether Ultimecia found the GF Griever, or whether she pulled it out of Squall's mind. I believe the former is more likely, seeing that Squall does not necessarily fight Ultimecia at the end, which complicates matters, but there is no proof one way or another. But to try manipulate Griever's role in the game to prove R=U is ridiculous.