Man Utd
Man City
Chelsea
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Oh dear, Man United... What on earth is going wrong :O
I'm HOPING Sunderland do lose in the second leg though, a few of my *cough* Sunderland supporting fr- acquaintances, have been foaming at the mouth with the idea they're going to win silverware... and stay up.
Shame Newcastle are so poor in the cups and all.CARDIIIIIFF T_T
LET THE HAMMER FALL
I think this is the first time in my life I can say I'm looking forward to playing United at Old Trafford this weekend. Win or lose, we already won.
It's Chelsea away the week after for the Red Devils...
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I don't worry about Chelsea any more than I worry about any other club at the moment. We've lost to sides in the relegation scrap and beaten Arsenal while they were flying high. We've crashed out to Sunderland and Swansea in the national cups, but we've beaten Leverkusen for our best ever away win in our Champions League history. Chelsea? *shrug* Doesn't matter who it is right now, we could win or we could lose. xD
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
Still got the second leg to go yet! Though if our recent home form is anything to go by then you're probably already correct.Originally Posted by Loony BoB
If Rooney and Van Persie are still out when we played Chelsea then I fear there will be only one outcome.
Well, at least West Ham didn't lose 5-0 twice in a row. Though apparently Dzeko thought they had. Bad maths clearly endemic at City.
I think Jamie Redknapps article said it best that we need an overhaul of the team. We have no proper midfield players or a solid defense anymore. Carrick while good moves like a 40 year old and takes far to much time to make up his mind, plus has tendencies to go missing in games. Fletch is great but just back. The rest are just squad players. The only player who is good enough at the moment is Adnan. Our defense is trout also. It's almost comical at times. Evans isn't good enough. I'd take even someone like Jagielka and expect him to be solid.
The replacements? We need two central midfielders, two CB's (with Vidic going at the end of the season), and a winger. Get out the checkbook Moyes and don't kneejerk into signing the likes of Fellani just because you think the fans expect it. The likes of Oscar, Arteta, Mata didn't cost a bomb - they were from good scouting.
Still believe Moyes can turn it around but there has been many times this season where I think we have no shape and its just route 1 all the time by giving it to Valencia. Our full backs dont even overlap half as much as they used too. Rafael doesn't at all. We need people brought in in January if we expect to get into top 4.
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Also, when it comes to signings, don't be afraid to pay "ridiculous" money if you want a ridiculously good player. If (and this is a massive if, I personally don't think it was true) Fabregas was actually available, we should have simply paid whatever was being demanded and be done with it.
Woodward is just the pits when it comes to CEO-ing with player transfers.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
Exactly. Never really understood that one. We pay just shy of 30M on Fellani when another 20 would probably have gotten the Fabregas deal done. No brainer.
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Oscar cost £20m and Mata £23m. That's a fair old whack! Though I guess you couldn't get a Fellaini or a Carroll for it...
You could just about get a Henderson though.
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One of Ferguson's biggest weaknesses was the transfer market. We bought some smurfing dross.
Bebe, Mame Biram Diouf, Eric Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, Manucho, Anderson, Zoran Tosic, Owen Hargreaves, Fangzou Dong, Liam smurfing Miller, Bellion.
There's more I'm sure. I won't include flops. No one can really predict those so you can't really blame anyone but smurfing hell. That list above. Shoot em all.
You could devote a whole chapter to goalkeepers.
I'd say Obertan was a bigger fail than Anderson. Still, as much as you can point to Fergie over those guys, you can also point to his successes. Over time, some will work and some won't... I don't think any manager is perfect in that area. But I can't think of many times he would have said "Fabregas isn't worth £50m, but Fellaini is worth £28m."
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His flops outnumber his successes mate. I'll got back 10 years to make a point. When I say 'trout' I don't mean theyre trout players, I mean they were trout for us.
David Bellion Sunderland £2,000,000 July 2003 trout
Eric Djemba-Djemba Nantes £3,500,000 July 2003 trout
Tim Howard New Jersey Metrostars £1,200,000 July 2003 trout
Cristiano Ronaldo Sporting Club £12,240,000 August 2003
Kleberson Atletico PR £5,930,000 August 2003 trout
Giuseppe Rossi Parma Free July 2004 trout
Liam Miller Celtic Free January 2004 trout
Louis Saha Fulham £12,825,000 January 2004
Alan Smith Leeds United £7,050,000 May 2004 trout
Gabriel Heinze Paris Saint-Germain £6,900,000 June 2004
Gerard Pique Barcelona £5,000,000 May 2004 trout
Fangzou Dong Dalian Shide £3,500,000 January 2004 trout
Wayne Rooney Everton £25,600,000 August 2004
Ji-Sung Park PSV Eindhoven £4,000,000 July 2005
Edwin van der Sar Fulham £2,000,000 July 2005
Ben Foster Stoke City £1,000,000 July 2005 trout
Nemanja Vidic Spartak Moscow £7,200,000 January 2006
Patrice Evra AS Monaco £5,500,000 January 2006
Michael Carrick Tottenham Hotspur £18,600,000 July 2006
Henrik Larsson Helsingborgs Loan January 2007 trout
Owen Hargreaves Bayern Munich £17,000,000 July 2007 trout
Tomasz Kuszczak West Bromwich Albion £4,000,000 July 2007 trout
Nani Sporting Club £17,300,000 July 2007 SEMI-trout
Anderson FC Porto £20,400,000 July 2007 trout
Carlos Tévez Corinthians Loan August 2007
Federico Macheda Lazio Free September 2007 trout
Manucho Petro Atlético Unknown August 2008 trout
Rodrigo Possebon Internacional Unknown August 2008 trout
Rafael da Silva Fluminense £2,600,000 August 2008
Fabio da Silva Fluminense £2,600,000 August 2008 trout
Dimitar Berbatov Tottenham Hotspur £30,750,000 September 2008 SEMI-trout
Zoran Tosic Partizan FK £7,000,000 January 2009 trout
Ritchie De Laet Stoke City Unknown January 2009 trout
Antonio Valencia Wigan Athletic £16,000,000 June 2009
Michael Owen Newcastle United Free July 2009 trout
Gabriel Obertan Bordeaux £3,000,000 July 2009 trout
Mame Biram Diouf Molde FK £2,000,000 July 2009 trout
Chris Smalling Fulham £10,000,000 January 2010
Javier Hernández Deportivo Guadalajara £6,000,000 July 2010
Bebe Guimaraes £7,400,000 August 2010 trout
Anders Lindegaard Aalesunds FK £3,500,000 November 2010 trout
Phil Jones Blackburn Rovers £17,000,000 June 2011
Ashley Young Aston Villa £16,000,000 June 2011 trout
David de Gea Atletico Madrid £18,000,000 June 2011
Shinji Kagawa Borussia Dortmund £12,000,000 June 2012 SEMI-trout
Nick Powell Crewe Alexandra £4,000,000 June 2012 trout
Robin van Persie Arsenal £24,000,000 August 2012
Alexander Buttner Vitesse £3,900,000 August 2012 trout
Ángelo Henríquez Universidad de Chile £4,000,000 August 2012 If seen please do not approach but contact Old Trafford immediately)
Wilfried Zaha Crystal Palace £15,000,000 January 2013 MISSING
fixedPhil Jones Blackburn Rovers £17,000,000 June 2011 trout
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