EoFF XXVII Game Thread - Day Five - Showdown in the Velvet Room

[[M] D'Anna]

Allow me to answer on my own behalf. My conviction was as such: if you believed I was a Mafia for making a call that turns out to be bad, I would not stand idly by while you think I'm a Mafia for just that. However, that doesn't mean I'll stick with the call if I already believe it to be bad before confirmation of it comes.

Except you didn't originally believe it to be a bad call. You said "I've gotten a little more suspicious of a certain other person" before voting Yukari. It wasn't until 4 hours later that you suddenly realized it was a "bad idea" and decided to change your vote when it was already inevitable that she was going to be lynched.

Had you stood by your initial suspicion and not changed your vote, I would be more willing to believe that you simply made a mistake despite believing you were correct.

[The thing is, I still think it's hard to judge who mafia is simply based on who did and didn't vote for Yukari considering, and this is my personal reasoning here, so I may be wrong, that we needed to lynch somebody in order to get discussions going.]

So just lynch someone for the sake of lynching someone? That's a pretty anti-town way of thinking.

[So for that reason, I am still very suspicious of Akihiko. I don't buy the whole "I was just testing you guys". I realize I may come across as defensive, since he was accusing me among others, but the way he tried to shift the guilt on those who first voted for Yukari really did seem like he was trying to throw off all the suspicion his hostile attitude got focused on him.]

I don't really care if you suspect me. I own my moves and mistakes. But instead of reaffirming your decision and standing by it, you instead tried to dismiss it and deflect suspicion back onto me. All I'm advocating for here is for you to own your move. Not doing so makes you untrustworthy and therefore come across as fairly scummy.

I am disappointed by our error in judgement from day one. I have to agree that bandwagoning from here on is a bad idea, and will lament the loss of Yukari-chan. I was suspicious of her I'll admit, and much of it came down to her erroneous interpretation of the math involved, so as a machine I will stand by that decision. It is unfortunate that I have no "gut feeling" to go with. Perhaps that human characteristic would make this easier.

It's easier to say this in hindsight, but I thought it was fairly obvious Yukari was not mafia. She put in a considerable amount of effort towards justifying a no lynch vote, yet people used this extremely minor point against her. While I also agree that not lynching ultimately doesn't help town, she boldly chose to take the other side of the argument. She was heavily outnumbered, yet she did so willingly. Almost no mafia player would ever do that on the first day of the game.

Also if it wasn't already clear, at least one of the mafia members is an active player. The mafia submitted their actions early, which means that the mafia are actively participating in this game.