FF7 Neo Riddles

[BG-57]

No, but materia are involved.

[docta fizz]

emerald weapon
materia
airetam

[BG-57]

Nope.

[docta fizz]

the clod and cloud?

[BG-57]

No Sir.

[Carl the Llama]

Hmm... could you be talking about the Magic pots (you do quite often fight them in pairs).

[Greatermaximus]

Several guesses.

The Stones in the observatory. Summon, Command, Magic, Support, Independant. I don't think Support and Independant have masters.

Otherwise it's life stream and materia.
They are both the same making them brothers.
One is solid and extracted as the other isn't.
The life stream sustains the planet.
Materia can take it away.

Or is it Holy and Meteor?
Cure and Poison?
Wall and Rflect?
Summon creatures?

It feels very open-ended.

[BG-57]

Hmm... could you be talking about the Magic pots (you do quite often fight them in pairs).

Not Magic Pots.


Several guesses.

The Stones in the observatory. Summon, Command, Magic, Support, Independant. I don't think Support and Independant have masters.

Otherwise it's life stream and materia.
They are both the same making them brothers.
One is solid and extracted as the other isn't.
The life stream sustains the planet.
Materia can take it away.

Or is it Holy and Meteor?
Cure and Poison?
Wall and Rflect?
Summon creatures?

It feels very open-ended.

Please limit your guesses to one at a time.

It's none of the above.

[docta fizz]

we aren't including anything outside the game right I.e. advent children.

barret and the coal miner dude

[Melissaur]

Dyne, you mean?

[docta fizz]

no stealing my answer!! lol actually yes, thanks haven't played the game in forever

[BG-57]

It's neither.

[Greatermaximus]

So much for this game I'm not smart enough for this nor do I play enough VII anymore.

[docta fizz]

growth lock

[BG-57]

Not sure what you mean, but no.

Repost:

Two brothers if twins
Must be fraternal
One path facilitates
The other hinders itself

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The two Cait Sith bodies? Meaning #1 and #2, not meaning Mog and Cait.

[BG-57]

Nope.

[champagne supernova]

The dragon boss you fight on the way up to the North Crater. The one with 2 heads.

[docta fizz]

ok my last guess is typhoon

it seems that there are way too many things that can be related but not too closely especially when its a subjective form of relationship

[BG-57]

No to both.

If you'd like a hint, I could give another.

[docta fizz]

sure
+5%hp
-5%hp
etc

I was trying to pick a guess and everytime i got to thinking about it I had 5+ guesses and never the same ones twice

[BG-57]

The twins are opposites.

[Melissaur]

Reno x Rude?

[champagne supernova]

Harry Potter & Voldemort????

I'm going to go with Cloud - Sephiroth or Cloud - Zack. But really am quite confused.

[BG-57]

Reno x Rude?

No.


Harry Potter & Voldemort????

I'm going to go with Cloud - Sephiroth or Cloud - Zack. But really am quite confused.

Nope.

I did say materia was involved.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I was thinking Black Materia when I said Cait Siths. Now I'm thinking... A master materia vs. a new materia?

[BG-57]

No, but mastering materia is involved.

[Melissaur]

a mastered typoon materia?

[BG-57]

Typhoon isn't involved.

[champagne supernova]

Has it got to do with the Big Materia? Bahamut Zero perhaps?

[BG-57]

It's neither.

[Mo-Nercy]

Mastered Contain materia? The final spell you learn on it is Flare, but when you've mastered it, the new materia only has Freeze.

[BG-57]

It's not Contain.

[Carl the Llama]

Ultima x Shield?

[BG-57]

Nope.

[champagne supernova]

So fraternal twins apparently are two eggs fertilised by two separate sperm. Judging by the hints, the answer must have 2 materias, which are completely opposite. However, I don't see how mastering materia gets involved if, by the definition of a fraternal twin, the 2 materias come from different sources.

EDIT: Thinking Full Cure & Ultima. Both originally start off with no ability, but reduce your stats (hinder). As you level them up, you can use the spells.

[BG-57]

The answer is a pair of materia, but not these two. Check my previous hint.

[champagne supernova]

If they are twins suggests that these two materia have been put in a linked slot.

There are just too many possibilities, especially as it's a specific two materia. I was thinking MP Turbo because it increases MP cost but increases damage, but have thought too much about it and am now more confused.

EDIT: But if I look at the hint about opposites, I'm going to take a wild guess and say: Revive & Destruct. When they're mastered, they are perfect opposites (one causing instant death, one causing full life). Otherwise I'm going to have a long think about it.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Riddle
Two brothers if twins
Must be fraternal
One path facilitates
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Hints:


The twins are opposites.
The answer deals with materia, more presicely it involves mastering materia.
The answer is a pair of materia, but not these two. Check my previous hint.

I'm gonna guess Black and White Materia. But, I'm not positive. Would facilitates means helps in any fashion?
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[BG-57]

If they are twins suggests that these two materia have been put in a linked slot.

There are just too many possibilities, especially as it's a specific two materia. I was thinking MP Turbo because it increases MP cost but increases damage, but have thought too much about it and am now more confused.

EDIT: But if I look at the hint about opposites, I'm going to take a wild guess and say: Revive & Destruct. When they're mastered, they are perfect opposites (one causing instant death, one causing full life). Otherwise I'm going to have a long think about it.

Good guess, but no.


Riddle
Two brothers if twins
Must be fraternal
One path facilitates
The other hinders itself[!] google_ad_section_end [/!]

Hints:


The twins are opposites.
The answer deals with materia, more presicely it involves mastering materia.
The answer is a pair of materia, but not these two. Check my previous hint.

I'm gonna guess Black and White Materia. But, I'm not positive. Would facilitates means helps in any fashion?
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Not black and white.

Facilitates means 'to make easier'.

[Melissaur]

Pre-Emptive and Final attack materias?

[BG-57]

No, but getting closer.

[Melissaur]

Is it the Final Attack x Phoenix combo if you master both, Phoenix fully cures you where as you use Final Attack when you reach 0 hp

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Facilitates means 'to make easier'.

Okay, I see. I had not encountered that word before.

[BG-57]

Is it the Final Attack x Phoenix combo if you master both, Phoenix fully cures you where as you use Final Attack when you reach 0 hp

It's neither of those.



Facilitates means 'to make easier'.

Okay, I see. I had not encountered that word before.

Yeah, if you're familiar with Spanish the word 'facil' means 'easy'.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Does it have anything to do with living and dieing?

[BG-57]

Not really.

[Rantz]

Enemy Lure/Enemy Away?

[Melissaur]

GO AWAY! If you get this imma be mad. You disappear then swoop in and take the prize!! But I still love you anyways.

[BG-57]

Enemy Lure/Enemy Away?

I kinda figured you'd get it. You know how I think. :D

They are clearly similar materia but leveling them depends on encounter rates, which they have opposite effects on.

[Rantz]

Woo!


GO AWAY! If you get this imma be mad. You disappear then swoop in and take the prize!! But I still love you anyways.

I never actually disappear, I lurk the riddle threads all the time. I only post anymore when I genuinely think I might have the answer, though. :greenie:

A sudden journey to Brobdingnag
Brought on by dexter vengeance
I must use my mind to survive
Lest saved by the horn of plenty

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Climbing the Great Glacier?

[Carl the Llama]

A sudden journey to Brobdingnag

Makes me think the answer may be when Cloud and Tifa fall into the Life Stream.

[Rantz]

Neither of those.

[Enjolras]

Is the answer the "Right Revenge" attack used by one of Ruby WEAPON's tentacles? I think it takes off a percentage of maximum health, as well as possibly causing the 'Mini" status effect.

My Reasoning:

A sudden journey to Brobdingnag - Having been suddenly afflicted with Mini in the presence of Ruby Weapon, you would indeed feel as though you were in the land of giants.
Brought on by dexter vengeance - It's a while since I fought Ruby Weapon, but I'm pretty sure "Right Revenge" is used as a counterattack. The name certainly suggests it.
I must use my mind to survive - As Mini reduces your attack damage to 1, physical attacks are certainly out of the question for the duration of the status effect.
Lest saved by the horn of plenty - Mini is cured by the Cornucopia item, which is a mythical Greek horn of plenty.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Ah, I think Enjol got it, either that or it's mini status in general.

[Rantz]

Close enough! I was simply going for the Mini status effect, the "Right revenge" attack just being an example of an attack that inflicts it, but your reasoning is spot on. Your go! :)

[Mo-Nercy]

I love it when the correct answerer provides an in-depth reasoning. Nice work, Enjols.

[Enjolras]

Hopefully this one should make you think; it's hard to tell how hard a riddles gonna be, some ones I've made which I've thought would last for ages have been solved straight away, while ones I didn't think were particularly inspired have lasted for ages :)


Triple twin chased
Three and three score holds it
Transfixion it's case
Accretion defines it

[Rantz]

Definitely agreed on the riddle difficulty :D

Is it the Grow Lance?

Triple twin chased - 6 linked materia slots.
Three and three score holds it - Something about it being on floor 63 of the Shinra HQ? Not sure how it actually ties together, though.
Transfixion it's case - It's a lance, ie. a piercing weapon.
Accretion defines it - The name indicates growth!

[Enjolras]

Wow, didnt think it was that easy! :)
Reasoning is spot on Rantzien, your go.

Obviously I need to brush up on my riddlemaking...

[Rantz]

It was definitely challenging enough, took me a good while to come up with the answer!

I'll leave this one up for grabs.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

A writing untesil requirement,
You must refill my holder,
With more.

You may use me to write,
Or
You may use me to blind.

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Format is for not reason. What is the riddle talking about?

[Rantz]

Is it the item Ink? (ink is required for writing with pens, and the item causes Darkness)

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Correct Rantzien.

[Rantz]

I'll leave it up for grabs again xD

[Melissaur]

Oh pick me! I just need to finish it up!

Ok here goes:

I'm red, white, and blue,
and I don't play by the rules.
We fight with too many,
but I have a stunning personality,
and for once we just might be cool.

[Carl the Llama]

I got it right but lets see others have a guess ^^

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I'm red, white, and blue,
For some reason, I have a feeling that this doesn't refer to the character Red but the colors are something else.

and I don't play by the rules.
Fugitives most likely - but from whose point of view?

We fight with too many,
Too many Materia? Or members?

but I have a stunning personality,
This line and line 1 makes me think that it is a character.

and for once we just might be cool.
This line seems to allow for my previous statement - but are we looking for one character or several characters? It is even a character at all?

Well, I'm not guessing - just stating my thoughts out load. The last line makes me think that it relates to the Turks.
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[Saber]

Cait siths toy soldier limit break?

[Melissaur]

Nope! But Shinwa has something going!

[silentenigma]

I'm red, white, and blue,
and I don't play by the rules.
We fight with too many,
but I have a stunning personality,
and for once we just might be cool.


AMERICA




or.... the first things that came to my mind were the "2 faced" enemies you fight in corel prison that occasionally cure you... though I'm not sure how they'd fit all of the clue.

[Melissaur]

YES! America! No not really. But good guess about the 2 faced in Coral Prison, though not it.

[Rantz]

I'm red, white, and blue,
and I don't play by the rules.
We fight with too many,
but I have a stunning personality,
and for once we just might be cool.


AMERICA

xD

It actually kind of fits for some parts.

[Carl the Llama]

I'm red, white, and blue,
He wears Blue and White and has Red hair.

and I don't play by the rules.
He is a Turk and Turks generally fight dirty.

We fight with too many,
You fight him on more then 1 occasion.

but I have a stunning personality,
He uses the stun rod as his weapon.

and for once we just might be cool.
When If you go to Wutai the Turks put aside their differences and works with Cloud to rescue Yuffie and Elana.

The answer my friends is none other then the best Turk out the Reno!:cool:

[Melissaur]

Yepper-roos! Reno it is!

[DarkBahamut]

Yepper-roos! Reno it is!
Hey Meli. Haven't talked to you in a while.

[Carl the Llama]

If anyone wanted to take my go feel free.

[DarkBahamut]

I'm going to make a simple one, if I may. As no one else is replying, and I will certainly take the spot.

What I hear through these ears?
Uncertain destruction, causing wear and tears.
Typhoons and blizzards may come and go,
once I have been told to bring my enemies sorrow.

:P

[G13]

Is it the Lifestream?

[DarkBahamut]

Nope. Look at the first line more.

[Carl the Llama]

I'm going to make a simple one, if I may. As no one else is replying, and I will certainly take the spot.

What I hear through these ears?
Uncertain destruction, causing wear and tears.
Typhoons and blizzards may come and go,
once I have been told to bring my enemies sorrow.

:P

Just musing some random things no actual guess, I think the last line might refer to a monster that can dish out the Sadness status, the first line makes me think its the rabbit type creature that you fight near the snow boarding town but it completely does not tie in with the rest of the clues.

[DarkBahamut]

Both theories are wrong.

The answer has nothing to do with a monster, but something that may be used to battle. I got one more hint up my sleeve. I'll use it when things get rough.

[Carl the Llama]

So its something that may be used in battle? I can only assume its an item or materia of some sort... Is it the Contain Materia?

Also if I'm wrong I was wondering if the "may" means "can only" be used in battle?

[DarkBahamut]

Correct, Kaiso.

What I hear through these ears? You scratch the white chocobo's ear in Mideel because that's where you find the Contain materia (literally behind its ear :P)
Uncertain destruction, causing wear and tears. Cause damage in four different types of terror.
Typhoons and blizzards may come and go, The materia has four spells in it, one having to do with a Wind type element and one ice.
once I have been told to bring my enemies sorrow. Was a hint that tells you that you can use it in battle.

[Carl the Llama]

Awesome, this one shouldn't be too hard so here you go:

The horseman come
Shattering all
Beautiful, winged, and deadly
Solid rim
Glass fatality
Usurp
Blessed water
Improvement
Sephiroth's
Balrog's hoard
Much to Ruth's horror
The surgeons familiar sight
The war begins as the world ends
Odin's knowledge
Nothing's better.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The swords belonging to Cloud Strife.

[Carl the Llama]

bleh knew it would be easy but 4 minutes!?!

[Shinwa Tsuki]

"Much to Ruth's horror" is quite similar to "Ruth's nightmare". Give me a bit of time to get my riddle.

Edit: Here's my riddle.

Older then time,
A winged creature,
Vile creature,
Yet, a creature of myth.

What is it.

Looking for a monster.

[|-THE redmage-|]

is it one of the weapons?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

No

[BG-57]

Garuda?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

No

[Melissaur]

Phoenix

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Not a summon. By monster I mean one you fight.

[Carl the Llama]

Doomgaze

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Zuu?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

What creature of our myth is winged?

[|-THE redmage-|]

the red dragon?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Not quite - the creature is correct.

[Karifean]

The Diablo in the Ancient Forest?

[BG-57]

Ancient Dragon?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

It is indeed the Ancient Dragon! Well done, BG-57!

[BG-57]

Cool. :)

We are octuplets
But never all together
But look around
To find most of us

[Rantz]

Elemental spells?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Elements in general?

[Carl the Llama]

1/35 Soldier?

[BG-57]

None of the above.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Here is what I think the riddle could mean.... Not a true answer, but I'm just stating my thoughts.

We are octuplets
Could this mean that there are 8 parts of this? This could also refer to 2 sets of 4.

But never all together
But these 8 parts never appear together.

But look around
To find most of us
So, if the player looks around then the player will find most of them.

[Karifean]

Edit: sorry, I mistook it for the FF8 Riddles thread. So my guess is now the enemies in the battle arena. "To find most of us" could be referring to the fact that Tonberry and Ho-chu are never encounterable outside the Battle Square.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Um, Propagators are only in FF8 aren't they?

[|-THE redmage-|]

The only thing that came to mind for me were the pieces of the Midgar model on the 65th (I think) floor of the Shinra HQ

[Melissaur]

Yeah I believe redmage has it. It's the only thing I can think of too.

[BG-57]

Edit: sorry, I mistook it for the FF8 Riddles thread. So my guess is now the enemies in the battle arena. "To find most of us" could be referring to the fact that Tonberry and Ho-chu are never encounterable outside the Battle Square.

Nope.


The only thing that came to mind for me were the pieces of the Midgar model on the 65th (I think) floor of the Shinra HQ

Good guess, but no.

[Melissaur]

Wow, I really thought it would be the Midgar pieces... Back to the drawing board.

[BG-57]

It's close because the answers are inanimate and found in groups, but never all eight togther.

[Melissaur]

Is it the items you get trying to get into Don's mansion?

[BG-57]

Again a good guess, but no.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

It has something to do with Midgar?

[BG-57]

Not at all.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Anything to do with weapons of some kind?

[BG-57]

Nope.

[Carl the Llama]

The switches that open the doors in the Gi Cave?

[BG-57]

Not them.

[Melissaur]

We are octuplets
But never all together
But look around
To find most of us

Chocobos? I do believe there are 8 different colors of chocobo...

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Not different colors, but different personalities, yes.
Yellow, Green, Light Blue, Sea Blue, Black, Gold, White, Red, Pink for anyone wondering about colors. Y, G, LB, Black, and G are the ones you can ride.

[Jiro]

Anything to do with the sources? You can find a bunch in the sunken gelinka ship, but not all of them (in chests that is)

[BG-57]

We are octuplets
But never all together
But look around
To find most of us

Chocobos? I do believe there are 8 different colors of chocobo...

It's not chocobos. Read my hint above.


Anything to do with the sources? You can find a bunch in the sunken gelinka ship, but not all of them (in chests that is)

Nothing to do with sources.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Independent Materia?

[BG-57]

Nope.

[Carl the Llama]

Any chance of a hint BG?

[BG-57]

Certainly. :) They're connected to specific locations.

Repost:

We are octuplets
But never all together
But look around
To find most of us

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The areas in Gold Saucer? Or, rather more specifically, the tunnels that take you between them? If I recall correctly, there are 8 of them, and only 7 tunnels in each area to lead to the others, because what is the point of there being an 8th to the area you're in already?

[Jiro]

I've been staring at this riddle for half an hour now and it's doing my head in.

I briefly considered a possible relationship to mako reactors, thinking there were several scattered around the world. But the presence of 8 in Midgar debunks that.

Then I thought about ultimate weapons. There are 8 materia slots, linked in couples. All of them are like this except Aeris's, which has 6 linked slots. Dunno if this could be on the right track, but I feel not.

Btw BG don't respond to these musings I'm just putting things down in case they help people. :p

EDIT: and in that half an hour Choco Boy has posted a brilliant guess.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Sorry, but I thought I was time to allow for everyone to look at the riddle and see the hints along with the close guesses. (Yes, I know BG already posted the riddle again.)

Riddle:
We are octuplets
But never all together
But look around
To find most of us

Hints (with by BG or answering a question):
They're connected to specific locations.
The answers are inanimate and found in groups, but never all eight together.
It has nothing to do with Midgar.
It has nothing to do with weapons of any kind.

Close Answers:

The only thing that came to mind for me were the pieces of the Midgar model on the 65th (I think) floor of the Shinra HQ

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Is it the items you get trying to get into Don's mansion?
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For some reason I think you can physically pick up the answer, so I don't think it's the tunnels at Gold Saucer. The close guesses are things that can be picked up, if I'm not mistaken.

The hints tell me that the answer may not in one location, but it might be in several. It's connected to different locations, for some reason I don't think this allows for the Gold Saucer tunnels. But, looking at the close guesses, I believe that the answer is found in one town but in different areas.

I'm quoting myself (with additions)....

Here is what I think the riddle could mean.... Not a true answer, but I'm just stating my thoughts.

We are octuplets
Could this mean that there are 8 parts of this? This could also refer to 2 sets of 4. Or 4 sets of 2.

But never all together
But these 8 parts never appear together.

But look around
To find most of us
So, if the player looks around then the player will find most of them. Or you need to go from one area to a different area to find them all.

BG, can you answer these:
Is the answer usable by the menu?
Are most of the answer found in one location or several?
Can the answer be split in 2 items in 4 group sets or 4 items in 2 group sets?
Is the answer part of the main story?
Do you need to explore to find the answers, that is go from one area to the next?

[BG-57]

The areas in Gold Saucer? Or, rather more specifically, the tunnels that take you between them? If I recall correctly, there are 8 of them, and only 7 tunnels in each area to lead to the others, because what is the point of there being an 8th to the area you're in already?

Correct! Your reasoning is perfect, so I have nothing to add.

Sorry if I don't respond to your guesses Jiro and Shinwa Tsuki, but I did read them.

FFIX Choco Boy has the next one. :choc:

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Omg, that's the 1st riddle I've ever gotten right! *Cheers*

Alright, I'll get one going here.

I make my home by the sea,
I am unique, twin of myself.
My other half holds great power,
Never misses its target, only an extra.
I hit my target as well, but
that was the only thing I hit.

What am I?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

That's alright, BG.

Uh, Choco Boy is the answer a weapon of some sort? (WEAPON and weapons)

[Crop]

Omg, that's the 1st riddle I've ever gotten right! *Cheers*

Alright, I'll get one going here.

I make my home by the sea,
I am unique, twin of myself.
My other half holds great power,
Never misses its target, only an extra.
I hit my target as well, but
that was the only thing I hit.

What am I?

Junon's cannon?
It hit a WEAPON (and then is moved, so it's the only thing it hits), and when it's moved to midgar it holds great power and hits a WEAPON and the barrier.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Thought it would last longer... Crop got it, nice guess.

[Crop]

Thought it would last longer... Crop got it, nice guess.

I honestly didn't think I'd get it. Can someone else kindly take my turn, I don't like creating the riddles.

[Carl the Llama]

I'll take it ^^

Only two chances do you have to see me
The origin of such is found in antiquity
Only to be seen never to be held
Do not try to find me iv been expelled

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The iv makes me think of 4, it could be a play on before. Just thinking out loud.

[Karifean]

The White Materia?

[Carl the Llama]

Good guess but no Cigar

[Shinwa Tsuki]

What type of answer are you looking for? Monster? Materia? Other (define)?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Is it the Sephiroth clone marked with tattoo number 4?

[Carl the Llama]

its not monster or materia lol and no its not the sephiroth clone number 4 I want a few more guesses before I give any more hints.

[Jiro]

I don't have an actual guess, but...

Only two chances do you have to see me - You only visit Midgar twice. I don't recall another area where you are limited to two visits.

The origin of such is found in antiquity - This actually makes me think of the rocket at Rocket Town.

Only to be seen never to be held - Evidently it must be apart of the background or scenery if you cannot hold it.

Do not try to find me iv been expelled - This links with the second line in making me think of the rocket, a part of the rocket even.

[Carl the Llama]

Nice thinking, unfortunately they are all completely wrong.

The Second line refers to something outside of FFVII

[Melissaur]

Is it the Mog House game in the Golden Saucer?

[BG-57]

I'm guessing its something mythological. But there's a lot of referenced mythology in this game.

Murasame?

[Carl the Llama]

its neither ^^

[MrSchpagge]

The only thing I can think of is the Turtle Paradise #2 in the Shinra building, but I don't know how it ties in with the second line.

[Carl the Llama]

Thats incorrect sorry :/

Do you really think I'm gunna give another hint THAT soon lol :p

[Masamunemaster]

It's probably been guessed but im going to say the condor at fort condor?

[Carl the Llama]

fraid not.

[Rantz]

Is it Vincent's final limit break, Chaos?

Only two chances do you have to see me - Once in FF7...
The origin of such is found in antiquity - And once in FFI.
Only to be seen never to be held - You can't control Chaos.
Do not try to find me iv been expelled - Not sure. He was defeated in FFI?

[Carl the Llama]

Good guess but no Cigar, your thoughts of the second line are good, it does refer to a few previous Final Fantasy installment's.

Oh and I thought I would dispel the thought that the iv in the riddle is relevant, because I'm blond (and because my spellchecker didn't flag it) I didn't know it was meant to be I've. ^^

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Properly written riddle, KaiserDragon (if this is the way you meant).

Only two chances do you have to see me
The origin of such is found in antiquity
Only to be seen never to be held
Do not try to find me I've been expelled

----
Hint: Line two refers to a past FF installment.

[Melissaur]

Is it Cloud? I have really no idea about how it goes besides there was Cloud character in one of the previous Final Fantasy's

[Carl the Llama]

Properly written riddle, KaiserDragon (if this is the way you meant).

Only two chances do you have to see me
The origin of such is found in antiquity
Only to be seen never to be held
Do not try to find me I've been expelled

----
Hint: Line two refers to a past FF installment.

That is how I intended to have it written, thanks ^^


Is it Cloud? I have really no idea about how it goes besides there was Cloud character in one of the previous Final Fantasy's


it does refer to a few previous Final Fantasy installment's.

but with regards to it being cloud, I am afraid that the answer is neither person or monster.

[MrSchpagge]

The ribbon!!!

...I know it's not right, but I'm at a complete loss.

[Carl the Llama]

omg someone posted! thought I had killed the thread lol, unfortunately Ribbon is incorrect, infact its not a person or an item or a monster, that should limit down what the answer could be ^^

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Uh, it is a name of a limit break?

[Carl the Llama]

nope ^^

[Masamunemaster]

kalm?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Midgar?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

JENOVA's little room in the Mt. Nibel reactor?

[Carl the Llama]

Not a place either.

Edit: I would recommend you guys focus on the third line, its pivotal to the answer.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Is it the Lifestream?

Not a monster, person, item, or place... The only things I can think of then are concepts, stats, or constructions.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Yeah, it it's just a process of elimination now....

[Carl the Llama]

Its none of those things.

Not:
A Person
A Monster
A Place
An Item
A Concept
Stats
A Construction

Is:
Something that can be found in previous installments of the series.
Something that can only be seen twice.

Re-post:
Only two chances do you have to see me
The origin of such is found in antiquity
Only to be seen never to be held
Do not try to find me I've been expelled

[Karifean]

The White Chocobo?

[Carl the Llama]

nope.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Is the answer a living thing? As in does it have a consciousness?

[Carl the Llama]

lol I commented on that to someone who knows the answer today and he agreed, no it is not something alive and it does not have a consciousness.

[Masamunemaster]

im gonna guess some random pole in the middle of nowhere...

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Maybe the answer is more abstract....

[Carl the Llama]

Is it Vincent's final limit break, Chaos?

Only two chances do you have to see me - Once in FF7...
The origin of such is found in antiquity - And once in FFI.
Only to be seen never to be held - You can't control Chaos.
Do not try to find me iv been expelled - Not sure. He was defeated in FFI?

ya see this quote here... I never said its not a limit break, even though it isn't (a limit break), try thinking along these lines...

I honestly don't know how I can give you any more hints without telling you what the answer is... I wasn't being coy when I said THIS was a good guess.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Okay, it is equivalent to a limit break. So the question is, for anyone really, which game is the answer a limit break? I know that KaiserDragon may not answer that - because that would likely to be a very big hint....

For some odd reason, I have to ask this KaiserDragon, two chances to see it - does that refer to the previous games, solely FF7, or this game and previous game?

[Carl the Llama]

Its not a limit break, at all. Its not usable by a character and the 2 chances to see it is in FFVII all the other games the answer has been in it can be seen an infinite amount of times.

So your looking for something that can ONLY be seen twice in FFVII but in all the other Final Fantasy's its been in it can be seen an infinite amount of times. Obviously the answer is not a limit break cause then there would be an infinite amount of times it could be seen.

So in short: your party has no access to this answer except to see it, it can only be seen twice at 2 completely different points in the game.

It can be seen an infinite amount of times on any other game the answer is in.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

That's nice, because I was just clearing up that 'two chances to see' especially when you mentioned that the answer was also in previous games.

[Masamunemaster]

I wanna say ultima so bad now seeing as she was the one who always shot lasers from the sky....but you can see "satilitte beam" however many times you want hmmm

now I remember why I stopped coming here haha


new out of the wild fields of afoiajvowi............could it be meteor?

[MrSchpagge]

Sapphire weapon?

You only see it twice.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any other FF it's in.
Can't be interacted with in any way.
Is "expelled" from the planet.




EDIT: After reading your post about what the answer isn't, I realize this is wrong.

[MrSchpagge]

I'm not sure if this would qualify as an item, but what about the Holy materia?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Yes, the White Materia which contains the Holy spell is a good guess. But, I'm not certain if Materia would be classed as an item. The Holy spell, I'm not certain if it's in previous games - but I'm betting it is.

If the answer is not White Materia, I'm going with the Black Materia and the Meteor spell.

Both answers don't seem correct as the party does have the White Materia as Aerith holds it, and they end up holding the Black Materia in the game - I don't remember if it is accessed by the player through the menu....

[BG-57]

The original US version of FFVI had Holy but it was renamed Pearl.

[Carl the Llama]

I'm afraid none are right.

[BG-57]

Masamune?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Rats! I'm out of ideas at the moment.

[Carl the Llama]

Nope.

[MrSchpagge]

Are the two chances to see the answer part of the main story, or is it something you could possibly miss?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

That is a good question, but I'm still out of ideas.

[Carl the Llama]

One is missable.

[Masamunemaster]

materia spring?

[Melissaur]

Omnislash?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Omnislash is a limit break, if I'm not mistaken.

[Carl the Llama]

I don't think Materia Spring is in any other final fantasies and as Shinwa said it is not Omnislash as that's a limit break.

[Melissaur]

Oops. I forgot that clue X_x

[Khimbar2775]

for a quick moment, Don Corneo and his antics came to mind. because his appearance in Wutai is optionable and missable. however, hes a person, and apps and rapps are both monsters :( anything to do with the good Don?

[Carl the Llama]

Indeed the DonxWutai section is entirely miss-able... and that is indeed the miss-able part of my riddle... I say nothing else till I get a solid guess though lol

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Is it the idea of the Turks being passive? You can see it in Wutai, which can be missed, and you can see it in the Midgar Train Tunnels when you return. It can be missed, too, but I think that they are passive anyways, it's just up to Cloud whether or not he wants to be a jerk.

[Khimbar2775]

i wouldnt say it deals with the turks. they can also be missed in the crashed gelinka underwater. but im merely assuming kaiserdragon was well aware of this also being a missable section :P

unfortunately, i wish i could throw out a good guess. my memory is quite foggy of this game :( maybe the leviathan scale? i cant remember if thats viewable in the inventory or not...

[Carl the Llama]

I'm afraid thats not the right answer, the Don Corneo side quest is the first place you can see the answer

[MrSchpagge]

Is it the Aero spell?

I know Rapps uses it, and I think the enemies at the top of Gaia's Cliff use it, and those are the only two times you'll see it.

IT's been in almost all other games in the series.

As far as I know you never get anything that let's you cast the spell.

Still don't know what the last line is talking about.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I originally thought that Aero was a spell that could be used by Materia, looked it up in the Strategy Guide - and that's not so. But as a spell - even a monster spell - it's possible to see many times.

The only monster, according to the guide, which has an Aero attack is Rapps - and Rapps has Aero3. Also, I don't think that a magic relates to the third line, because I don't know if you can hold energy.
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Riddle Repost:
Only two chances do you have to see me
The origin of such is found in antiquity
Only to be seen never to be held
Do not try to find me I've been expelled

Hints:

Its not a limit break, at all. Its not usable by a character and the 2 chances to see it is in FFVII all the other games the answer has been in it can be seen an infinite amount of times.

So your looking for something that can ONLY be seen twice in FFVII but in all the other Final Fantasy's its been in it can be seen an infinite amount of times. Obviously the answer is not a limit break cause then there would be an infinite amount of times it could be seen.

So in short: your party has no access to this answer except to see it, it can only be seen twice at 2 completely different points in the game.

It can be seen an infinite amount of times on any other game the answer is in.


I would recommend you guys focus on the third line, its pivotal to the answer.


Its none of those things.

Not:
A Person
A Monster
A Place
An Item
A Concept
Stats
A Construction

Is:
Something that can be found in previous installments of the series.
Something that can only be seen twice.

The answer is something that can only be seen twice within FF7 and one of those chances is missable. The answer relates to Wutai somehow. And the second line refers to a few previous FF games before FF7.

[Carl the Llama]

Is it the Aero spell?

I know Rapps uses it, and I think the enemies at the top of Gaia's Cliff use it, and those are the only two times you'll see it.

IT's been in almost all other games in the series.

As far as I know you never get anything that let's you cast the spell.

Still don't know what the last line is talking about.

We have our winner ladies and gentlemen let me explain ^^

Only two chances do you have to see me - the spell is cast by only 2 different monsters, rapps and some monster in the whirlwind maze.

The origin of such is found in antiquity - the first time the aero spells are found in the final fantasy series is FFIII

Only to be seen never to be held - the fact that it is a spell but not an obtainable materia.

Do not try to find me I've been expelled - Some people speculate that the spell was originally intended to be a materia but was cut before the end.

Congratulations Mr Schpagge.

Addendum: yes, technically you can see the spell more then once if they cast it more then once but at that point in the game (when your in the whirlwind maze) I always find myself strong enough to kill the monster before it has more then 2 turns. but if you want to be pedantic you could in theory sit there and let it cast the spell over and over but meh.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah, my bad - I don't know very much about the FF series before FF7.

[MrSchpagge]

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

That was gonna be my last guess too.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Anyway, my last attempt at this tanked, so hopefully this one is up a little longer.


Your journey has brought you through desert, ice, and into space; what you desire is almost in hand.
There are times you fall short of your goals, then you remember me, your last chance for success.
I am the light that guides the heroes home.

[Khimbar2775]

lifestream, sounds like. its so shiny in the end game sequence!

[Kyros]

Cid and his wife, forgot her name atm =/

[MrSchpagge]

I don't think Cid had a wife; he's got Shera, but she's just a maid-ish-type-person, I think. :confused:

At any rate, neither guess is right.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The Lifestream seems like something that is seen often.

[Khimbar2775]

The Lifestream seems like something that is seen often.

what does that have anyhting to do with the potential validity of the answer?

anyways, another guess: i forget the materia name, but the materia combo that activates upon death combined with phoenix :P a very bright light indeed, and happens when you forget that youve combined the two together at just the right time

[Carl the Llama]

Could it be the various methods of transport throughout the game?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ack, I missed the new riddle!

I'm going to guess Aeris, for MrSchpagge.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

It it items in general/the item command?

[Kyros]

huge materia

[MrSchpagge]

None of these.

[Masamunemaster]

uuuuuhhhhhmmmmm.
.
.
.
holy?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Save Point?

[MrSchpagge]

I can see this one is going to do a lot better than my last. :D

You're all still very cold.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

What was the closest answer? Even if that answer is far off....

[MrSchpagge]

Could it be the various methods of transport throughout the game?


Definitely the closest

[Khimbar2775]

the highwind gets super shiny at the end. is it the lever that CId decides to never pull until the end of the game? :P

[Mo-Nercy]

I reckon it's probably the Highwind as well.

But just to keep my chances alive, I'll guess the rocket ship's escape pod.

[MrSchpagge]

Neither of these are right, but you guys have the right idea.

I'll start handing out more helpful hints tomorrow.

[Carl the Llama]

Repost:
Your journey has brought you through desert, ice, and into space; what you desire is almost in hand.
There are times you fall short of your goals, then you remember me, your last chance for success.
I am the light that guides the heroes home.

The light on the front of the Highwind? lol

Edit: Could it be the Sister Ray? after all we wouldn't have gotten into the Northern Cave without it.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I'm guessing the Promised Land.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Chocobo?

[Khimbar2775]

wow, i love kaiserdragons guess. great thinking!

i keep on tripping over my thoughts. the first line, to me at least, implies that this thing appears strictly after the space launch. should i be worrying over this detail?

[Kyros]

guessing tiny bronco since someone already guessed the cannon

[MrSchpagge]

The light on the front of the Highwind?

The last line of the riddle is quite literal.

You're all a ways off still, but this should narrow your guesses quite a bit.

[Carl the Llama]

Quite literal... I keep coming back to the thought that your talking about the Holy/Lifestream that rises up to stop meteor at the end, it is a light that you follow back to Midgar (what I presume you mean by home) but seeing as both have already been guessed... I'm out of idea's right now.

Could you be referring to the light of Marlene's window that you see just before Holy rises up to stop meteor... I honestly don't know how this would fit in with the rest of the riddle.

[MrSchpagge]

The best hint I can give at this point is the first line has nothing to do with the main story.

[Mo-Nercy]

Your journey has brought you through desert, ice, and into space; what you desire is almost in hand - In the Gold Saucer Speed Square game, you go through desert, ice and space.
There are times you fall short of your goals, then you remember me, your last chance for success. - It's pretty hard to get a good high score, but shooting down the big spaceship nets a 1000 points (I think)
I am the light that guides the heroes home. - Spaceships have lots of lights?

Is it the big spaceship in the Speed Square mini-game at the Gold Saucer?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I'm thinking the Chocobo races for some reason.

[MrSchpagge]

Your journey has brought you through desert, ice, and into space; what you desire is almost in hand - In the Gold Saucer Speed Square game, you go through desert, ice and space.
There are times you fall short of your goals, then you remember me, your last chance for success. - It's pretty hard to get a good high score, but shooting down the big spaceship nets a 1000 points (I think)
I am the light that guides the heroes home. - Spaceships have lots of lights?

Is it the big spaceship in the Speed Square mini-game at the Gold Saucer?

So close it hurts.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Does the answer have something to do with Gold Saucer?

As to what, I'm a bit clueless right now.

[Karifean]

the light you can shoot at the very end at the bottom left to get 200 points?

[Mo-Nercy]

the light you can shoot at the very end at the bottom left to get 200 points?
You can do that?!

:mad2:

I answer failed. :(

[MrSchpagge]

the light you can shoot at the very end at the bottom left to get 200 points?


:jess::jess:NAILED IT:jess::jess:

Congrats to Karifean. Your go.

[Mo-Nercy]

He scored off my assist though. I am happy. xD

[Karifean]

I'm giving it to Mo-Nercy. Thanks to him I got the answer.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Let's see what you have No-Mercy.

[Mo-Nercy]

I'm giving it to Mo-Nercy. Thanks to him I got the answer.
Hey, thanks. Hopefully you can get this one and we can call it even. :D

I am surrounded by flowers
And the first of my kind found
I am protective of others
And useless when no one’s around.

[Melissaur]

Aerith?

[Mo-Nercy]

It's not Aerith/Aeris.

[MrSchpagge]

The Cover materia found in the church where you first meet Aeris.


If this is the answer Karifean can have a go at it, I like being on the guessing side of the riddles.