How about Jessweeee♪ or Old Manus? They haven't been suspected much either. My gut says that it isn't either of them though.
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How about Jessweeee♪ or Old Manus? They haven't been suspected much either. My gut says that it isn't either of them though.
Well, our gut instincts have failed us so far. xD
It might be an idea to investigate who has voted for each of the people who have died. Consistencies might appear. If they turn out to be citizens, at least you've got rid of a person who constantly (if unwittingly) helps out the mafia!
If you look back at consistent voting patterns you run the risk of coming up against mafia bluffs. I had a look over the rest of the thread and have come to the conclusion that DK has started the flow of voting for Del Murder, voted consistently for Magus of Zeal before he died and otherwise has never voted anyone who hasn't been proved innocent.
Personally I think he is clearly mafia if you have a look backwards, his cold disregard of Del's death is in character too.
I've said before that i'm suspicious of DK's tactics of only coming in to state his accusations, and to say something about a player who has died but no more.
I vote DK
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I think others should consider following too. Maybe the cop could help convince those to vote in my favour if he has investigated DK before now.
I'm feeling pretty suspicious about DK myself now... HOWEVER.
Was Ubel the only doctor? :p How did the Mafia guess, anyways? Or were they just lucky?
Anyways.
This round, I'm going for I Took the Red Pill.
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I'm gonna go on a limb and say Red Pill also.
You are suspicious of DK but go for someone completely different? :confused:
You guys are smurfed. :laugh:
Fine, I'll smurfing vote DK, I feel like such a tool now!
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Yeah, because I'm in two minds about him. On the one hand, if he is Mafia, then boy oh boy, he's done an amazing job of hiding it in all the conversations he's had with me. But I'm giving him the benefit of doubt this round. Also, he's very enthusiastic about protecting his friend Red Pill.
I've heard that twice already, and >=( no.Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
And here's something that hopefully helps...
The ones struck out were innocent. Reminder that it was Psychotic who initiated the voting for demondude. Likewise, he was also the first one to say let's lynch Magus of Zeal instead. Booo. :p Impaling Lekana much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Round 1
The bolded ones are the suspects from Round 1, because they're the ones who voted for a provenly innocent member, and haven't yet been lynched or proven innocent themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Round 1 still
And the others:Quote:
Originally Posted by Round 2
Bolded again; suspects, voted for the innocent. You guys tally it up with the bolded from Round 1. (note that DK and FM just carried on their votes? they didn't change it or anything; decide for yourself if this speaks for innocence :p)Quote:
Originally Posted by Round 2 again
None of us have been proven innocent :( (even though I assure you I AM!!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by r3
SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.Quote:
Originally Posted by r3 again!
Well that's one way of assuring people find you suspicious. Of course in a Mafia game everyone is Guilty until proven Innocent anyway.
I'm going to vote for DK again. I had reason to believe he was Mafia the last round, and I've seen a few more things that confirm this for me. Being one of the few people to vote for him last round when the votes clearly starting going one way, that to me suggests "taking the heat off".
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I assure you Maxxo if I was in the Mafia, I wouldn't have spent so much bloody time and energy doing the above :p
HONK HONK!
Sergeant Hartman came pulling in on his old motorcycle, it had run out of gas. He was hoping the town of Genchat would provide him with the drops of joy that he needed to get his motor running and head out on the highway, probably looking for adventure, or whatever comes our way. Anyway! The Fonz explained to him that they were out of fuel, and that once you enter the town, there's no way to leave it again, or else this game would be pretty much over. Oh boy, the Sergeant had really gotten himself into some real trouble now, ain't he? "I'll show you around town!" yelled The Fonz happily and skipped towards the bakery. The lights were out, but that didn't stop Fonzie! He had a lighter, but his sense of smelling had been gone since the war in 'nam, so he did not smell the gas. Crap! Now where are we going to make bread? :(
The Fonz is dead, but we have a new villager in town, Sergeant Hartman!
Lock and load.
I suppose, in a way, all of the citizens have a bit of mafia in them...
Seriously, the mafia must be laughing pretty hard right now. :S
Also, maybe the mafia won't be suggesting people to kill, but rather waiting for a citizen to say "we should kill [nonmafiaperson]" and then join in, making the citizen take the fall.
So all in all I guess I have no idea either. This is interesting. Keep entertaining me, people!
Serves you all right for killing me. :(
Oh shiz niz, that means Manus, Maxx and I are next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooka
I'm going to vote Captain Maxx on this one. Purely random.
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Wooo another replacement! Oh yes.
Oh and, has anyone noticed Jessweeee♪ has only spoken twice in this entire thread and she's been here from the beginning? And if they really weren't active they would be replaced. And her post are toward the beginning. So she would have been replaced by now. So they must be active in some other way, one were not seeing possibly. Just and observation.
I'm completely... I dunno... I'll go out on a limb here and say Maxx Power. :(
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Actually, the reason I replaced The Fonz is because he said he wanted to take a break from EoFF and also because his last post said "I'm not dead yet?" So obviously he doesn't care much for this game.
But good point, I will ask Jessweeee if she wants to be replaced or if she'll be able to keep up.
I'm going for Radje imho, he just seems to be really on top of things
EDIT: that's a vote btw
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Voting for DK so I can jump on the bandwagon, plus knife kills are just gay.
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Airstrikes and knives are for nubs. The flamethrower is the weapon of a true king.
In fact, I vote Maxx Power, he's more on top of things than Radje
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Also, yes. I also vote for Maxx Power seeing as he appears to be playing more of a game than anyone else in the thread so far. He's an untrustworthy man.
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Maxx Power has 4 votes and DK has 4 votes oh mah GAWD.
How many votes do you need to get lynched, Levoooooo?
It's a majority vote, I'm pretty sure. :monster:
Oh alright then. :p change my vote to Maxx. for accusing me. >=( DIE
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Psy: There's no specific number of votes that gets someone instantly lynched, that wouldn't make sense because people can change their votes. Whoever has the majority of votes in 6 hours and 20 minutes will be lynched
edit: yeah, what DK said. Majority vote. :p
votes:
* Captain Maxx Power - DK
* DK - Captain Maxx Power
* Faris - Captain Maxx Power
* fire_of_avalon
* Flying Mullet
* I Took the Red Pill - DK
* Jessweeee♪
* Lekana - DK
* Old Manus - Captain Maxx Power
* Radje - DK
* Rengori - DK
* Resha - Captain Maxx Power
* Sergeant Hartman
* Shauna - DK
* Shiny
* The Summoner of Leviathan - Captain Maxx Power
Oh wow, that's extremely normal. DK starts getting a few votes so people start ditching their votes and piling them on Maxx. I'd say there's at least 3 mafia members glaring you guys right in the face.
NO LEV NO O_O I CHANGER MY VOTE PLEASE
edit: Oh psh :p I changed it to Maxx from you! You should be ghappy.
Uh, no. I'd rather see myself with one vote then people ditching my votes to put them on Maxx. It's an obvious ploy to save Dan. People need to open their eyes.
Yeah, of course I want to save Dan. I don't think he's mafia :monster:
People are opening their eyes. But you don't know what they're seeing when they do. :heart:
Hey you lazy buggers, I want to see reasons for wanting to lynch someone. "Oh, I just feel like randomly lynching DK/Maxx Power". Jesus christ, no wonder the mafia are caning all of your arses if that's your grand plan.
I'm definitely getting targetted here civilians. Can't y'all see the pattern, sudden changing of votes onto me? 'Tis a conspiracy I tells ya.
Maxx has been suspected since the beginning. Re-reading some posts will prove that.
I haven't been paying attention to DK's doings, I just thought that if he wasn't lynched now, the mafia would get him tonight, and my vote would be wasted :(
Not if you protect me. Dr. Manus :(
I vote the sidekick, DK, just mearly for the fact that maxx is the Captain Maxx Power, who wouldn't want a captain.
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I wasn't complaining about yours. :p
I love the high drama that's going on right now. Imagine me saying this with a deep voice:
TWO FACTIONS, AT WAR.
ONLY ONE WINNER.
EVERYTHING IS AT STAKE.
AND THEY WILL GIVE THEIR ALL FOR THEIR TEAM.
MAXX OR DK, WHO WILL BE LYNCHED?
FIND OUT TONIGHT, ONLY ON EoFF!
EoFF MAFIA: TRUST NO-ONE!
Since when did you make the adverts for the Sky Sports Football Matches?
EoFF as a TV channel would so be after the watershed.
:hyper:
I vote for Maxx Power.
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What's going on?!! :jess:
DK is almost certainly the first mafia member the citizens have come close to lynching Sergeant. Now, because of that all the other mafia members have jumped out to vote for Maxx knowing that it will save DK if they garner enough votes.
The innocents need to wake up and realise what has happened. Read my post accusing DK and see how soon after that people suddenly and inexplicable started voted Maxx power without having expressed suspicions before-hand. Most of them are mafia. If DK dies today it will almost certainly prove that i'm right in my suspicions. If Maxx is killed another innocent is dying today. Lets not be fools.
Or, alternatively, Maxx Power is the first Mafia the citizens have come close to lynching. Yourself and Maxx have both been voting in a pattern for the same people for the past two rounds, working together as mafia members to continue to eliminate citizens and try and dispell blame from yourselves. Working together in the same fashion over period of time is only the mark of mafia working together, as far as I can see. :}
Oh man. I'm so confused. xD And, can I take back my vote? =[ Until I ponder over this some more? xD
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Also, I really don't buy this "vote changing being suspicious" thing. The first person who changed a vote changed their vote to me anyway! It became quickly apparent that this was going to be a two horse race between me and Maxx Power, one that looks as if it could go straight down to the wire. What does anyone have to gain from leaving a vote for someone not in the picture in a situation like that? Absolutely nothing. One of the two of us is going to die, and people have changed their votes to who they are more suspicious of, nothing more or less than that.
It makes no sense that i'm voting for DK in order to save Maxx Power since you can see I was the first to vote DK this round and has no idea who everyone else would vote for. I didn't simply add my vote to the tally in order to boost the vote in Maxx's favour.
Dk has aroused my suspicions much more since the beginning of the game in his patterns and the way he has acted than Maxx Power. So I voted for him. People didn't jump to my aid in preventing Maxx from getting lynched, it is far more obviously the other way round as people actually changed their votes to be protective of DK once they realised he was getting too many votes.
It is unavoidable that in some rounds people are going to vote the same way whether they are mafia or not. Last round you seemed just as sneaky to me as you do now so I voted for you. Maxx obviously felt the same. I can assure ou it was coincidence but what use is that in a game where no one trusts each other.
It would be the mark of mafia working together if the votes had ever come close to amounting to a majority vote. Much like most of the people you've voted for hmm?:rolleyes2 This round in particular, if you ask me.
Or you know, you might not have voted for Maxx in the first place due to the fact that he is Mafia and you know it. :/
Magus of Zeal, twice, because Levian conned us all into believing there were only four roles when they weren't, Del Murder who I voted for first and everyone followed, and Maxx Power because it's a two horse race with me being one of them! OH CRAP THAT'S REAL SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOUR THERE, TRYING TO SAVE HIMSELF HOO BOY ONLY A MAFIA WOULD DO THAT
:rolleyes2
That logic applies to everyone who voted for Maxx too. Meaning everyone is equally as suspicious. Why have you voted for Maxx?
I shouldn't say it but, you're getting awfuly defensive on the voting DK. There's 16, you have to win or loose by 1 person difference, swaying people to one side or the other is the only way to go. Rally them up to take one down. Suspicious. You could just try saving your own life though.
Maybe they know something you don't. :}
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I shouldn't say it but, you're getting awfuly defensive on the voting DK. There's 16, you have to win or loose by 1 person difference, swaying people to one side or the other is the only way to go. Rally them up to take one down. Suspicious.
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because it's a two horse race with me being one of them! OH CRAP THAT'S REAL SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOUR THERE, TRYING TO SAVE HIMSELF HOO BOY ONLY A MAFIA WOULD DO THAT
The fact is that the arguement against DK is a stronger one than against Maxx Power, and those who have chosen him at "random" are raising suspicions about themselves.
Lekana has a point about everyone aiming for the one person in apparant defense of you. It's highly unlikely so many people are suddenly suspicious of Maxx Power and no one else all of a sudden :rolleyes2
Also, Shauna, Levian said that people can change their votes all they want before nightfall. Your final vote will be counted at about 11pm our time. You can change it until then.
You're so hung up on your own argument that you're not bothering to think outside the box. There are plenty of reasons for people to be voting against Maxx Power and not for me, and plenty of reasons for them to not want to explain themselves. To quote myself again;
And besides, the only thing you've come up for a "case" against me is voting pattern, which is flimsy at best. :}Quote:
Maybe they know something you don't. :}
Actually it's anything but flimsy.
Everyone in the mafia knows who everyone else in the mafia is. Citizens don't know jack :skull::skull::skull::skull: about who the other citizens are.
So explain to me, why after you voted for Maxx Power, Manus and Resha suddenly, and directly after you changed their votes to match yours. "O WEL I TINK DANS INNOCENT". Yeah, my ass. You told them via either PM or instant messenger to change their votes you two-faced scum. If they had any common sense they would've waited a few posts to change their votes.
People don't just have epiphanies like that. "HOLY CHRIST MAXX POWER IS SUSPICIOUS CHANGE VOTE NOW PLOX." It doesn't work like that.
I'm sure if it were the other way around you'd all be saying pretty much the same thing.
Voting for someone who isn't in the picture has been done every round until this one, so why do you suddenly consider it ever so pointless now that you need to explain your way out of a bend DK?
Oh, I don't know, maybe if they're unsure of what either person is, and they don't want to vote for someone on, as you say, "flimsy" grounds? No, that's impossible, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by DK
Still waiting to see anything linking Maxx to anything suspicious by the way.
Of course they would. If everyone had only voted for DK because they realised Maxx Power was in danger then i'd be suspicious of them too. They didn't, though. People voted for DK from their own steam, many people who had already publicly said they were suspicious of him in earlier rounds or even voted against him. This round it is a huge group of people who had never mentioned a tiny qualm against Maxx who are suddenly jumping to vote against him.
It'd divide votes if someone did so. It's possible that that one vote could mean doom for someone. It could be a 8-8 tie but then somone had decided to go for somone else. Then the on left would be dead.
There are easy reasons for this, but I ain't saying them now. But you'll find out if you A.) think about it or B.) wait until this day is done and it comes out in the open anyway.
You're all assuming the game has stayed the same from the start and what people know now is the same thing they knew from the start. :}
I guess we will all have to wait and see who will be lynched and what will be revealed. Eh?
In my defense I will say that I have been working to help the citizen side through my analysis. I've tried to make sure I didn't say or do anything that might appear "mafiaish" so far. While I don't want to shoot myself in the foot, the guys are probably right about the whole situation with votes being ganged up on me. Seriously, let's not lose another citizen.
Yeah, and in mafia you can vote whoever the heck you want. If other people want to vote for them, that's fine. I realize that I am the first person to vote Maxx in this. I could change my vote, but I have made a personal note not to make changes in my votes. It's just a coincidence that everyone else started to vote for him. Yes, by now we should be getting suspicious of other people. Heck, this big argument can make anyone taking part look suspicious.
Okay. I vote DK. =[
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At least me and Maxx can say we've been part of the most interesting day so far. :excited:
edit: lollers, now who's politicking for vote changes? :}
I want night to come so we can see what is what. If Maxx is Mafia, then suspicion will fall upon Radje. If Maxx is not, then suspicion will fall on DK. Anyways, I think Day 5 will be pretty interesting.
Oh, I'd almost completely forgot DK trying to coerce me into telling him I was a cop over instant messenger. He even went so far as to say Levian told him I was a cop. How honest and completely unsuspicious! :love:
For my own benefit what's the current lay of the land votes-wise? It's been so chaotic I've lost track.
Ok, I get your point. You're probably right, this day has been the most exciting and argumentative so far since the game began so people will want to make their votes count if need be. However it is incredibly likely most of the mafia have voted the same way, one side is definately mafia-orientated and everyone should remember that no matter who dies today and tonight.
True, but with two major sides out in the open now one must ponder which side the mafia is on? Which is more likely? I say that due to the lack of even the slightest proper case against Maxx Power that those voting for him are unjust in their decisions and are either doing it randomly, or to save DK.
EDIT: Agh! You lot reply to this thread fast. Why would I be risking my life to save Maxx Power if I was mafia? One mafia is equally as important as all the others and Maxx having drawn so much attention would be of limited use to the mafia anyway. I would've had no reason to spout out and protect him if I was mafia. Think about that.
Well you believe wrong, because if I was a cop I'd have investigated your ass by now and publicly denounced you. But sadly I don't have tha powerz.
EENY MEENY MINY MO!
Old Manus had gone missing, and the citizen needed to decide who would go into the old abandoned mental hospital to check if he had ventured in there. Jessweeee(note) screamed inside her head when she got the MO! She knew she never should've stood 4th in the line, oh well. She peeeeked♪ through the window, nothing there. "Ok, here goes nothing!" She said, and went inside. Meanwhile Old Manus showed up with toilet paper stuck to his shoe. "haysup" he s4id. However, it was too late, a loud screeeeam♪ was heard from the mansion, and then a BOOM and then a SLASH and then a DRIP DRIP DRIP, and then a BANG and a WHIPZ and yeah, you get the picture.
Jessweeee♪ is salami, but KH-Cloudy was found unconscious in a local pizza place!
(Jessweeee♪ hasn't logged in in 4 days, so I figured it'd be ok to do this.)
Oh noes, yeah see I was right, and innactive member. I sometimes make points like that ya know.
* Captain Maxx Power - DK
* DK - Captain Maxx Power
* Faris - Captain Maxx Power
* fire_of_avalon - Flying Mullet
* Flying Mullet
* I Took the Red Pill - DK
* KH-Cloudy
* Lekana - DK
* Old Manus - Captain Maxx Power
* Radje - DK
* Rengori - DK
* Resha - Captain Maxx Power
* Sergeant Hartman
* Shauna - DK
* Shiny - DK
* The Summoner of Leviathan - Captain Maxx Power
Approx 3 and a half hour left.
Why does it figure I'd change my vote?:p
edit: oh right. next line. ...
Edit 2, I suppose: If DK does wind up being mafia, then it's Old Manus his comrade, maybe.
DK IS NOT MY COMRADE
Capital letters? Suspicious. :shifty:
He doth protest too much, methinks. :)
All went silent all of a sudden.
It's the waiting game now. Two more hours, right?
Just about, just about.
Aye. Time for waiting. xD
Do I look like a waiter?
I'm seriously glad I made it back here on time, because you guys have just gone nuts. Have any of you actually thought about WHY you're voting for DK or Maxx? I haven't seen one shred of evidence depicting either of them as a member of the mafia. No one has come forward to say they saw them doing anything, no one has shared anything from PMs with either of them. You guys are just going on a wing and a prayer that it IS them.
You'd think by now we'd all try seriously to pull together and make sure we stop killing innocent people. The more I think on it, the more I realize how terribly wrong I was about Del Murder, and that he had the right thinking all along. We shouldn't be targetting those who are most vocal, we shouldn't be targetting the people who suspect us; we should be going after those who are, for all appearances, twiddling their thumbs, sitting back and watching us mindlessly slaughter each other.
Let's all just THINK about it for a while. I'm sure we can come up with something better. For my part, I suspected Flying Mullet right off the bat, something he didn't really go through great pains to deny. And now, all he seems to do is show up for votes. Don't you think that's a little odd? That FM just kind of let's these things float on by with little discussion.
We should also start focusing on the bandwagoneers. The people who leap at the opportunity to lynch DK or Maxx, with little or no forethought.
I urge all of you to seriously, SERIOUSLY rethink your votes. Does DK really deserve to die? Does Maxx? I can't speak for Maxx as much, because we haven't conversed via PM but, LIKE RESHA, I have talked about the game with DK and I am convinced he's on our side. Please rethink this, y'all. I don't want to see another innocent person lynched.
I vote for Flying Mullet.
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Those with night activities could use this time to figure out what they want to do, that way we can shave off some night time. :p
Yes.Quote:
Have any of you actually thought about WHY you're voting for DK or Maxx?
You will after the lynching takes place.Quote:
I haven't seen one shred of evidence depicting either of them as a member of the mafia.
Yes and I suspected Flying Mullet from the beginning. For all we know he is probably the mafia boss.Quote:
Don't you think that's a little odd?
Yes and yes.Quote:
Does DK really deserve to die? Does Maxx?
*sits and waits for results*
The whole game is based around people taking risks and following their own suspicions, but you are looking on the wrong side of things here foa. If the person who dies here tonight is a mafia and the other is somehow revealed to not be one then the citizens will have a lot more basis on who to trust and who not to.
They have taken a better path than blindly voting people who make no posts because remember the mafia are all in one team, they can easily pick citizens off one by one whilst we try in vain to vote for different people. The only way to unite citizens is through trust of each other. Which this is taking a step towards.
Once they are more united and begin to learn who they can trust and who they cannot, that is when they should try and take out the more mysterious players.
Wow. You really seem to have no idea how this game works, or you're mafia yourself. You just admitted that you, personally, have NO EVIDENCE to lynch either DK or Maxx. You prefer to kill off yet ANOTHER citizen, putting the rest of us further in jeopardy, than to do any kind of legwork, realize you're wrong about them and go OOPS LOL while the mafia continues to pick us off one by one? Terrific strategy.
What's more, you ADMIT you have suspicions about Flying Mullet, you've had them FROM THE BEGINNING, but you still won't budge on who you want to vote for? Why do you want DK out of the game so badly anyways? Does he know something you don't want him to know? I think that's got to be the reason. The only reason anyone would have for wanting him dead.
I want a Death Note now.
I'm confused, HOW DOES THIS GAME WORK?!
I'll assume you were replying to shiny there.
foa if you are a citizen you will be happy to wait and see if DK is revealed a mafia. Because once he's dead either way the citizens will have a clearer idea of who to trust. DK and his followers if he is innocent, Maxx and his followers if he isn't. As I say, either way the citizens will be in a stronger position than ever before. They may have less people but they will be closer to trusting each other.
If you are mafia, then it's no surprise you are so against the death of DK now, is it?
Wrong. The game is based on TEAM unity. It's based on working together AS A TEAM, finding evidence AS A TEAM, sharing evidence AS A TEAM and then moving on from there. Shiny basically said s/he (sorry! I can't remember atm ;_;) that WAS NOT going to share any evidence s/he had. That they'd rather wait until after someone dies for all of the rest of us to find out.
That isn't what's happened here. People are still going too far with their gut and not far enough with shared logic. People ARE BLINDLY VOTING based on personal experience, or who is most vocal, etc. etc. I went with my gut, people followed me, and I ended up leading the charge to get one of our biggest assets (Del Murder) killed. I don't want another citizen to die. I want to win the game. Based on what Dan and I have talked about, I think he's going to be INCREDIBLY helpful in helping our side to win. And everyone else wants to lynch him with NO EVIDENCE.Quote:
They have taken a better path than blindly voting people who make no posts because remember the mafia are all in one team, they can easily pick citizens off one by one whilst we try in vain to vote for different people. The only way to unite citizens is through trust of each other. Which this is taking a step towards.
You can't unite if you don't share information.Quote:
Once they are more united and begin to learn who they can trust and who they cannot, that is when they should try and take out the more mysterious players.
Has it occurred to you that this has happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by foa
Assuming that DK AND I ARE BOTH MAFIA then yeah, it does make sense. But that's the fun part! Neither of us are! Not ONE of you has any proof tying either of us to the mafia. I am NOT happy to wait and see if DK is revealed a mafia, because I KNOW he isn't mafia. Much as I suspect Maxx Power ISN'T mafia. If we keep killing off people who aren't mafia, we aren't ANY closer to winning the game.
Eventually, all of you are going to have killed all of us good guys off. It's amazing how the mafia doesn't have to lift a finger to manipulate everyone else. We all just mindlessly kill each other off and make their job WAY easy for the..m.
The sharing of information can't be easy because no citizen knows who is a mafia or not! As I said we can't trust each other until we have a basis on which to trust.
That basis is the death resulting from today. There have been two major teams going against each other here. One of those teams will be mafia protecting their own because I suspect we have voted in large amounts against our first mafia. I suspect this because in no other mass vote has there been two sides, it has been widespread because the mafia knew they were in no danger. It makes sense.
If the person dies and is revealed mafia, the citizens will be able to more easily judge who is, and isn't trustworthy. The cop can help gather them together with his night POWA and paff, they have a chance of winning.
It's going to be funny when he dies if you think this.Quote:
Originally Posted by foa
I'm not directing who the information goes to here. Is there someone doing that? Yes. Because they have information. And I suspect that they divulge their information to whom they want, based on observations of trust. I didn't see anything suspicious about you until this gung-ho defense of Dan, saying you're 100% sure he's not mafia. If I was the one with the knowledge, I probably would've shared it with you. But that's not the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by foa
You don't KNOW he isn't mafia. You can't know for sure until he is killed. You are basing this on his ability to keep himself secret. Wow he can hide it from people in conversation? Doesn't mean he isn't mafia.
Who knows the mafia hasn't lifted a finger to manipulate us? No one innocent knows who the mafia are except perhaps the cop so we could've been playing into their hand the entire game.
Listen to what i've posted, once the person who has the most votes dies tonight plenty will become clear. You can't know if DK is mafia or not unless you are mafia yourself.
You may not have the same information I do, but there are a fair few of us who DO have information from a specific source, completely trustable information. Those of you who know what I'm talking about should be arguing just as much as I am against everyone else.
EDIT: I trust him. I have good reason. Apparently you're not in on that. Probably because you're not trust-worthy enough yourself.
I do have understanding actually. From what I got from the flash and such. Atleast enough from the flash. Also, next time you might want to say who you are referring to because I'm just assuming it was me right now. And I never admitted to having no evidence. You asked if people had evidence and I said yes. How are you so sure that it IS another citizen? Where is YOUR evidence for your claims?
Oh that's nice. Going after me, a person you must know to be a citizen, because you are mafia. Which makes sense why you are protecting DK. I hope you know that if it's revealed that DK is indeed mafia, you will be the first target. So what's the point in even trying to save him at this point? No. I will not bugde. Because unlike DK, I don't have enough evidence to go after Flying Mullet again yet. My vote wouldn't matter for him regardless, because 1. He's inactive as of right now 2. Many people have voted for DK as is. Changing my vote wouldn't do a thing.
I personally had a reason for voting DK; I felt that his actions and demeanour were working in favour of the mafia. If you check I voted for him in the round previous to this. I kept my stance because he was still my personal prime suspect. The reason why things have gone crazy is because no sooner had DK started getting a few votes his way a whole bunch of them started coming in my direction, seemingly out of the blue. True, some people had their suspicions about me earlier on, but some just seemed to "choose randomly". I mean who the hell chooses randomly in a game like this?! You can either conclude a general cloud of confusion enveloped everyone, or that it was something pushed on by the Mafia. I've stayed out of it for the most part, since the more you try to convince people you're not Mafia when you're being targeted the more likely it is people will carry on voting for you.
Really we can but wait for the night to come. It looks like DK is about to be lynched, so I'll see whether or not my own suspicions were correct either way.
You're wrong. It changing your vote to anything else might protect an innocent person.
And i'm not having a go at you, I'm sorry if it seemed like I was being mean. I'm just trying to get my point of view across.
And I'm not worried about being targetted because I trust Dan based on information we've shared. He isn't mafia. If I had any doubt at all, I'd say go right on ahead and lynch me with him.
EDIT: I give up. I just want everyone to know I think this is another serious mistake in a long line of serious mistakes.
I understand that you are probably just wanting to help out citizens and stop everyone killing them off so easily. Plus DK has gained your trust somehow with some secret information, but the only way everyone's suspicions here can be resolved is by seeing what he was for sure in his death. Even you, foa, need to know for sure.
I hope after this everyone will have a better idea of who to trust and who to avoid. After this next night every citizen needs to attempt to gather together in order to lessen the mafia's numbers. Goodness knows how many they have left.
After the most heated day of argument and discussion so far in the town, the gallows were set and the noose was hung. The Townsfolk gathered around as DK was brought forth to be hung. Unexpectedly, he wore a smile upon his face as he was lead to his death, not an ironic smile, or a a smile with no humour behind it, but the smile of a man fulfilled. As the noose was placed around his neck, he faced the gathered crowd and threw his fist into the air like a boxer who had taken the title, and flashed another smile that remained on his face long after his legs had stopped twitching without a stool to support them.
DK was a (SPOILER)Mafia
Night 4
I have everything I need to end Night 4, so it will end in approx. 30 minutes.
Wahahah, that was the most fun I've had on EoFF in a long time. I loev you all :heart:
I'll leave you with one thing; while I may be dead, the mafia are stronger now than they've been all game! :}
DK tried to pretend to be a cop to earn foa's trust. In the PM she copied and pasted, foa said that he did an investigation of both foa, Paul (who is now Lekana) and Resha claiming them to be both innocent. Which leads me to believe that all three of them are scum trying to protect their own. foa told me that I received a PM from DK's second account stating that he was a cop when infact, I received no such thing. That right there, is a lie. One is his many lies in this game.
EDIT: Told you so. Go after foa, Lekana or Resha bishes.
Well played DK:D I got you though. I'll probably be joining you in a little while.
YOOOU :mad2:
Just in case I get killed during the night (a big possibility at this juncture, if nothing else for "revenge), I want you all to know that at the start of this round I was contacted by the Cop, who shall remain nameless. They confirmed to me that DK was a Mafia. I left out this information as I felt it would work against me, but now DK has been shown to be Mafia I feel it's best you all know. Be wary of anyone who voted for me to be lynched in the last round.
No; DK told me that he was a cop after I almost saved his mafia little ass :p but he also told me that he'd PMed Faris, Shauna, TSoL and Flying Mullet claiming to be a cop. Apparently he'd also inspected Psy and me and foa and found us to be innocent. But I dunno why he didn't contact me, the innocent, first, and went for four randoms. But anyways. Hence why Faris and TSoL voted for Maxx and not DK. The only other person besides the four of us voting for "Inspector D" was Old Manus. Who DK did not name.
Hence, we DON'T go after him but :laughing: consider him as a possibility.
DK sent a PM around an un-specified number of players, including myself indirectly. This should be discounted as a ploy to spread distrust moments before he died. He probably named both innocents and mafia members in the PMs so I urge everyone not to listen to whatever it said and play the game only with the information you've gathered through this thread so as to avoid confusion and name placing. Personally I would wait and see who is lynched tonight, before casting suspicions. As it is likely to be me I suggest you all think about the mafia's tactics in this last day.
Would they have blindly sent every one of their members to vote in favour of DK? I doubt it, they wold have considered him a lost cause after a few votes and decided to vote for him themselves to avoid suspicion falling on them.
So what's going on, anyone died recently?
Man, you're behind on the times, lol.
Like the sand through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives. But enough about days, let's talk about nights! It's totally night right now, and we all know what happens at night right? Well, except prostitution. Murders! That's right, murders. Resha had always been very fond of knives, that's why she collected them for 42 years. Yes, Resha is actually much, much older than what she's telling you all. But boy does she regret living in a house full of knives on a week like this. She was a survivor that girl, she stuffed all the knives in the bottom of her cellar, and taped shut the door. However, there was one knife she had forgotten, the swizz army knife under her bed. Then someone shot her in the head. Resha was a citizen.
Day 5
Today will be a bit different than all the other days. I want you all to list three members you think are Mafia.
Example:
Mafia:
Jenna Jameson, Roger Moore, Danny DeVito
Except not celebrities. Reason why you suspect them would be good too, but it's not required. You don't have to rank the members either, just random order will do just fine. This is a game, so remember that you can lie all you want in the list too.
You can't vote until you've made a list.
:( goodbye
hahaha, Pooja got owned by Dan then the mafia killed her just to rub salt into the wounds. Brilliant. :laugh:
Resha noooooo! :mad2: :cry: :Oo:
My vote goes to Captain Maxx Power from what I've read.
Wait...I need a list?
:Oo:
At least we know she's not mafia :laugh:
Edit:
I don't think Maxx should be suspected. If the cop told him that Dan is mafia, then wouldn't the cop have had questioned about him?
Pooja! ;_;
hey mafia guys I hope you all die painful deaths :kiss:
Well, didn't see that one coming.
Blimey! That was a surprise.
I have a new fondness for life :D
Horrible feeling DK wasn't joking about the mafia being stronger though.
We're being manipulated by a Norwegian God...
Anyone have any ideas on what their position is today?
Hohoho I arrive!
I'm thinking Old Manus, Rengori... and... um... KH-Cloudy. xD
But that's just an initial "Who could it be?" post. xD
[levian]ok[/levian]
Ok now I kinda know whats going on, but why did Resha have to go and get shot? :cry:
This must be their plan. To have us all going at each other. I am going to do what someone told me and disregard that PM foa sent me, because I think DK was trying to set up innocent citizens in that PM. He attempted earn foa's and Resha's trust so they would defend him and look bad to us. So instead I will continue to point my suspicions towards Captain Maxx Power. As well as Old Manus, and Rengori. Flying Mullet is still on my list, but as I said before he is inactive as of right now.
[levian]list ok[/levian]
Great, now everyone thinks I'm mafia.
I think that Red Pill, Maxx, and maybe Manus are all mafia
[levian]list ok[/levian]
Old Manus is pretty much a given at this time, he's my first choice. Summed up nicely; he was the only one not PM'ed by DK and voted in my direction. The fact he also changed his vote so quickly to me during the last round has put him really high up on my list of suspects.
Faris is next on my list. Yes, she may have the benefit of the doubt somewhat, but the fact she initiated the voting before means I have more reason to believe she's mafia.
My last choice was going to be Resha, but obviously she's now been killed off. To be honest I'm not sure who else who's left I would say are Mafia...I'll say KH-Cloudy. They were very quiet the last round and suddenly jumped into the fray to vote for me without reading what Levian requested. Seems like an over-eager beaver to my eyes.
In summary, Old Manus due to logic, Faris due to suspicion of votes, and KH-Cloudy for acting suspicious.
[levian]list ok[/levian]
And so..on with the list...
Maxx Power, Rengori, and Manus could be the Mafia.
[levian]list ok[/levian]
Epic fail guys :nonono:
Maxx, Radje and Shiny plox
[levian]list ok[/levian]
Hmm! I'm gonna suspect Old Manus for one. Mainly because of what Resha said before she died. Rengori, mainly the same reason as everyone else, he's been pretty much in the shadows; however, he does have school and that could keep him from the thread a bit. I'm not too sure about my third at the moment. Maybe FM. He was suspected at the beginning. I know it's probably a bad idea especially since he said that he'd be gone for the weekend. Long weekend!
I was one of DK's PM victims. For the record, I no longer have reason to suspect you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxx
[levian]list ok[/levian]
Oh my gosh I'm sooooo sorry!!!! I should have told you I was going away ; ;
ANYWAY I hope whoever replaced me is smarter than I was x.x
With DK being proven he was what I was told, I can now confirm trust in someone. They being right, as they will remain nameless yet still, I skimmed the thread since the DK and Resha developments, I'm first going read what they have to say and i'll have to judge for myself BUT as of now, I have to go to bed for school tomorrow :P
Did I die?
Clearly, I am not very good at this game. I've trusted those who would kill me, and helped kill those who would help me. I think I should move.
I'm really sorry I argued so ardently for DK. I'm going to have to learn that I really can't trust anyone. Dan, you are such a son of a bitch for letting me do that. xD
I'm especially sorry to Shiny. I was out of line. You can kick me. Or lynch me, as I said if Dan was mafia you could lynch me too.
I'm going to have to think very hard about my top three. Hopefully I'll get them in when I wake up tomorrow. Congratulations to the citizens who voted correctly and wiped out the first mafia scum.
DK PM'ed me too. That is why I went for Maxx...
DAMNIT ALL!
I vote for Faris. Point in blank.
Faris, Old Manus, and I'm going to say [strike]KH-Cloudy[/strike].
Actually, scratch KH-Cloudy, I'm going to think on that last one.
I can see why some of you voted for Maxx. If he sent you a fake PM claiming he could gain your trust by Maxx being revealed as citizen once dead then you would want to go through with that.
However it is easy to pretend to be a cop apparently, as we've gathered from yesterday. If the real cop wanted to contact anyone it will now be very difficult for him to prove himself. Good Job DK :mad:
Citizens have to start voting the same way like probably happened yesterday. There is a risk our suspicions could be horribly wrong but if we don't all go for the one person against the mafia then we are just taking pot votes.
Here's what I think about everyone playing so far:
Faris: You, like DK, have remained well out of the picture since the beginning of the thread. I can't remember your voting patterns well without having to flick, once again, through 15 pages. However you seem to be there to place a vote towards or against the right person when it is needed, and you were one of those who supported DK at the end here. Always a cause for suspicion. However you are not yet certain in my mind. Far from it.
Maxx: You were the scapegoat of DKs minions which makes it highly unlikely you are innocent and almost bore the brunt of mafia revenge. It'll be interesting to see whether anyone who was sooooo highly suspicious of you will vote for you today as well. Personally I am willing to take it as granted that you are citizen, but there is an underlying chance you are a second mafia and todays vote was a farce controlled by the mafia.
Old Manus: What was that whole thing with Resha at the end there Manus? I was incredibly suspicious of Resha from the beginning but with his/her untimely demise she was revealed to be on the innocent team all along and you had been the one she had argued with. You are my main suspect this round.
Foa: What the hell was the stark defending of DK all about? You seemed to be very much in the mindset that he was undeniably innocent and thus struck up an impressive vocal arguement to prevent him getting lynched. But when you consider that you were far from the only person to receive that cop PM and no one else delivered such a harsh arguement I am forced to believe there is some alternative plan going on between you two + mafia. I'm suspicious of you but something tells me you just made some stupid mistakes. Despite that, after Manus you are my prime suspect.
Mullet: Has barely posted at all due to some offline commitment. I had my suspicions of him in the first round but he turned out to have defended someone who was innocent, so right now he is below my radar.
Red Pill: I can't see any reason to suspect Red right now. His voting throughout the game has never been strongly directed at any one person and I believe he only voted against DK for poops and giggles, and then kept his vote there because of the rise up of people to defend him. He hasn't been entirely non-existant in the thread and he has been careful on who to offend. This strikes me as the actions of an innocent person so I'm assuming he is.
Sergeant: God knows, you've barely said a word.
Lekena: You've delivered a fair mid-way viewpoint on most subjects so far, similar to psychotic before you who delivered a mid-way "wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey who is everyone?" performance :rolleyes2 . Right now you appear to be a citizen through my eyes. Either that or a very, very smart mafia. Also I like your feet and have to explore this disturbing fact before you are killed off and it's all gross.:p
Rengori: You've voted both ways in this game so far. You eventually voted for DK in that last round, but beforehand you had also voted for innocents. It is hard to place your allegiance. I'm suspicious of you and very curious to see where you stand in the voting today.
Shauna: You've been a little too quiet in the thread so far, but I have no reason to see why that places you as a mafia. I believe you are an innocent because you've also been careful not to offend anyone by expressing suspicion against them. You've had trouble choosing which side to vote for in some rounds, especially this last one, which marks you in my mind as a civilian. If you were mafia you would have a very good idea who you wanted to vote for.
Shiny: You've had your suspicions of Mullet throughout the game and of other people here and there. In the last round you voted against DK for unspecified reasons all in all. I believe you simply wanted to see where the voting went and that you made the right call. DK was a mafia and now you have a better idea of who to trust. I think you are a citizen and don't suspect you.
????: I've forgotten who replaced the Fonz?
TSoL: You managed a casual but a little "I'll ignore the true parts and add in my own.." arguement in the last round in order to draw votes away from DK. Much like a lawyer would defend his client in front of a jury. All that matters is how they perceive what you say, not if it is actually true or not. Much like lawyers who do so, I believe you are in the wrong and thus a mafia. However, with only this to back up my claims I cannot be sure. So I'm keeping an eye out.
I think that's everyone. My belief right now is that there are 6 remaining mafia members in the game. (I have no way to prove this and I could be wrong so don't take me too seriously here.)
Due to a process of extreme elimination I believe that Faris, Manus, Sergeant, TSoL, Whoever replaced the Fonz, and one more, are mafia.
My list is: Manus, TSoL and Faris
My vote will come later.
[levian]list very much ok[/levian]
Dudes, I fail to see how I am mafia. The only reason you seem to have come up with is that I changed my vote from Radje to Maxx. Any other evidence? You're making a wrong move here guys :( Maxx is manipulating you, I'm certain of it.
I am not in the mafia.
Oh, sorry Lev, I was not paying attention. I kinda skimmed fast after I came home from my friend's place.
List of suspects:
Faris: She has been pretty aloof in her playing, remaining ever so mysterious. As well as that she has said somethings to me that makes me suspicious, especially with the whole PM from DK. I will attest to my innocence via that, since I chose to believe DK was a cop when he said he was. Now I am not too sure to believe whether or not all those he listed as innocent to be innocent. He said Resha was innocent and she turned out to be so, but who else would be?
Lekana: In the assumption that she is taking over Psy's role. Psy found out too much so he was killed off. There's two ways that could have happened: he was Mafia and found out who the doctor or cop was or he was a citizen and found out who the mafia was. This is basically a coin toss guess, but I'd say Lekana is Mafia because in his PM DK said Psy was innocent, but did not elaborate.
My next suspect was going to be foa, but I decided against it. At first, something in my gut told me she was Mafia but now, because of DK's PM I think she might be innocent. He had said that after she had convince him that Del Murder was a Mafia, he had "investigated" her and found out she was innocent. Since we know that DK was lying, I would be inclined to go: OMFG SHE IS MAFIA AND THEY WERE WORKING TOGETHER! Maybe DK knew he would be caught and think someone would react like that and intentionally go after foa, thinking he was playing tricks on us. Then again I could be over thinking it.
My last suspect would have to be...*thinks* Shauna. In the thread she declared "not knowing what was going on" yet she had also received the PM from DK. This makes me think she actually knew what was going on and knew that DK was a Mafia member, so decided to vote for him not to look suspicious.
My vote: Faris.
Here's the PM, maybe you guys can get something out of this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PM from DK
I think it's best to discount the PM for who is innocent or not. DK could've put down any names, all innocent, all mafia or mixed. It turns out one was innocent and maybe more if the cop has investigated any of them but that doesn't mean we should pay attention to the PM. It is just a tactic to sway us as we have to realise that we can't ever find out if they are all innocent unless the real cop tells us. Even if he did we can't know if one of them isn't the Godfather.
True, but I am assuming that DK was perhaps playing a clever game and that the names had intent, or at least some of them did.
I want to put out my last theory as well, that DK and Maxx and/or Redje were Mafia working together. I dunno if this was mentioned by anyone else or not, but it is possible. In the likelihood that the Mafia was losing there power over the citizens, they could have chose one of their own to be under suspicion. Basically, it goes that if DK was right and Maxx was Mafia, then everyone would give up on Maxx and start listening to what he said. The converse is true about DK. Meaning, what if this was all another Mafia ploy to regain control over us citizens? What if we are still being manipulated by them? I like to think Radje is an innocent that got wrapped up into this, but then again he could just be playing his part really well.
I'm worried about Maxx being mafia myself, it would be a horrible trick but very well played by the mafia. I suggest to whoever the real cop is that he investigates him tonight. We need to be sure.
Keep your eye on me too if you still have doubts. I'm willing to disprove them. I'm incredibly surprised I wasn't killed last night myself :p.
I'm under the impression that the mafia and the citizens are at equal numbers now. That means we can't afford any mistakes. The mafia will DEFINATELY kill a citizen every night, which means we need to DEFINATELY kill a mafia every day. If not we have lost. Decisions have to be made much more carefully and with a lot more discussion between yourselves. If the cop hasn't contacted anyone I suggest he does so. Also, if any other citizen has formed a group behind the scenes please try your hardest to include new members who are the least suspicious. We need one path of voting or else we've lost.
I can see why some people might decide that I might be Mafia based on what happened, but come on people, given the fact that up to that point we'd Lynched nothing but citizens that the Mafia would go to such massive, huge, conspiratous lengths just to win? If that were the case why is it that DK managed to get lynched in the end? If those who had voted for DK in the end were actually Mafia members who decided he should take the fall rather than me, well, why bother with such an elaborate plot? That's what I'm saying guys, we're starting to triple guess ourselves to the point where even those who see to be on the citizen side are becoming prime suspects. I'm not wanting to see myself saved in particular, but I'll be damned if I'm going to see another citizen lynched (namely myself).
Wow, I missed a lot of drama for two days. Now I have a bunch of make-up homework (reading) to do... :(
I don't especially believe you are mafia, Maxx. As I said above. However there is a need to make perfectly sure. As I said I want the cop to investigate you, I don't want you lynched.
I suppose we need to wait until people get back from school and work and what not.
The funny thing is that the mafia don't really need to start up anything, it seems the citizens are happy enough doing it on their own. :p
But there's always the option that the mafia, whoever they may be, are going to such great lengths for this conspiracy to confuse and manipulate all of us. I still think it all goes back to us not having evidence against anyone. Several members have already listed Old Manus as their prime suspect with very little to go on, other than he changed his vote from Radje to Maxx and that he "argued with Resha". I'm going to go over all of Resha Roo's and Manus's posts in just a while to see if there's really anything worth killing him over.
I also think that Dan's PM was sent mostly to mafia insiders as opposed to innocents. I think that at least two of the people who received the PM are actually in on it, and that Dan picked up one or two patsys (myself included) to fight for him.
Also, I believe there are more than one cop. If there are, I think it's time for at least one of you to step forward, to offer a little more believability to the people you accuse.
I have created something beautiful :love:
edit: hahaha sorry Megan, I knew you'd listen to me 'cause you love(d) me. I am a terrible man :aimkiss:
I've given a little thought to what BoB said and have come up with a plan.
Everyone who is a citizen, and knows it. Stop talking openly in this thread. Don't spread suspicion of people like i've realised i've done far too much.
There is an underground movement between certain players. I'm completely certain it has been tapped into by the mafia by now however. If you are a part of it, as you know you are, we can work out everything through PMing instead of openly causing questions and suspicions and playing into the mafia's hand. Instead, we'll be working together that bit more, and the cop can get in on it too. To help everyone work out who is a viable target.
If you are in, PM me. If you need more reason to trust me, ask me.
Well, the only reason I was confused, was because I had got a PM from the real cop also - I believe this cop also contacted Maxx. That and the PM from DK... it had me all confused, and I wasn't sure WHAT I was doing. In the end, I went with my suspicions about the fact that DK had contacted 3 random people - at the time I was thinking "Wait... how did he know to contact us? How does he know we're not mafia?" So... yeah. :p
Whew, that's a lot of reading, and I'm sure I'll see 100 different things if I read it again. What a confusing game.
I'm going to have to go with Manus, Maxx and TSoL.
I'm still watching Radje and foa.
[levian]list ok[/levian]
I'm going to just outright say this; you're all making a big mistake picking me as Mafia. Seriously, can anyone point to ANYTHING I have said or done that would indicate that I am Mafia?
How is Captain Maxx Power manipulating us?
My my. Resha was on to something and I didn't realize it before hand. I do think it's interesting that DK kept mentioning that he thinks Red Pill was the cop. Since DK was mafia, if he thought this for a while now, why didn't he go after Red Pill a while ago? A cop is obviously a threat to the mafia unless DK is doing what Resha suspected. Protecting him. A mafia member can easily pretend to be a cop, or he could also be a mafia cop. Then, that would explain how they knew to go after Dr. Ubel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Resha
Levian hasn't exactly been honest about what job-classes are in this game. There's probably a blue mage running about.
Mafia cop imo.
Do you mean that the cop/cops is/are mafia and pretending not to be? Or that the mafia have a cop of their own as well?
Hey, I wonder who the people who have been killed off were voting to lynch... maybe the mafia were killing certain people who were voting to lynch mafia members?
Haha. I guess I haven't been totally honest with you. Here's all the roles I've used in this game:Quote:
Originally Posted by Radje
Mafia
Mafia Godfather
Cop
Doctor
Jester
Citizen
So yeah, no Mafia Cop. The only job that should be a surprise to anyone by now would be the Godfather. The godfather functions as a regular mafia, but is revealed to be innocent when investigated by the cops.
Resha made a big post on it about 3 or 4 pages back.
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