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No, I believe Diao Chan won by exploding. xD We still have to play.
the game will continue
No but i'm tired and voting someone else won't end the day.
lol ^
*sigh* Alright.
What? xD
Holy trout, Demon Dude. What a suprise! You almost got us!
Too bad this bitch is teh baddest. :smug:
Wow that felt good xD
Really have to thank you Zhen Ji for doing most of the hard work there.
Good luck with the rest of the game town!
Thanks, Timekeeper. :bigsmile::love:
OK, I go to work and I come home thinking I will hurry and read up and see who looks good for the vote and wtf is just happened!!!
Will of Shu, eh? And it's Red. Does that mean he was scum-aligned all along? And dammit, it was DD all along. :mad2: At least we don't have to deal with him winning if his role was a Jester. /smug
So, what now?
We have the end of Day 4 in twenty minutes. There hasn't been a lynch yet. xD
I don't have time to read through so many posts before the day ends, this is quite shocking and I don't know where to do from here. Zhen Ji you have been a doing a good job of keeping things in order, can you give me your opinion before day ends?
I think we should force a tie so we have more time to deliberate. There's 2 votes on Jiang Wei and 1 on Geng Huo.
My vote (Geng Huo) serves no purpose other than to force a tie.
Can anyone at least give me a vote count?
Done, sweeite. ^^
##Vote: Meng Huo
To give me time to catch up
it was on the last page 4 minutes left
Now Zhen Ji
Please, tell me your thoughts on the day since you have been here and witnessed everything
*insert exclamation of confusion*
*excuse about having to work*
I don't know who to vote for now.
Essentially, I noticed Zhao's roleclaim early on and asked him about it, he gave a very poor justification and ultimately claimed Jester. This led everyone to prevent a would-be lynch to turn into a flip-flopped waiting game. Essentially, when Zhao claimed to win the game if he was majority lynched (causing the game to end), we panicked. We decided to avoid a majority lynch and instead wait it out.
Diao Chan (God bless her) had a role that allowed her to sacrifice herself to kill another. She asked if she could use it to kill Zhao so the Jester-wins-by-lynching rule would be negated. I said yes.
In the end, Zhao was Mafia, like I had originally thought and we have little time for a decision. ;)
I've seen you post regularly today Yue Ying, but I couldn't stop to read all that backwards typing. Can you give me your thoughts on today?
Before you vote, Yue, give us some reasoning.
Thank you Zhen Ji.
Since we are back at square 1, what is your impression of Sima Yi?
I have asked for a partner.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cao Cao
The fact that Jiang Wei hasn't tried to get a replacement for himself given he alleged has a busted monitor says to me this guy is a scummy scummersonQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jiang Wei
Sima Yi comes off as a bit of a jokester. To me, he doesn't seem scummy. Zhao Yun said something about him impersonating previous players earlier, and might have been gunning for us to go against him earlier on (not sure, would go back to check if I had time). Given that Zhao is proven scum, I think Sima's in the clear for now.
OK, who do you think might look scummy?
I feel similairly. He was one of Zhao's most outspoken doubters. We must be mindful he may have other intentions, but we don't have to be waryof him right now.
meng huo has 2 votes
jiang wei has 3.
2 inutes left
Meng Huo has failed to produce any real posts of substance, many of which pointing out individuals he finds suspicious, without elabortaing on them.
He has a fair share of posts, but very few of them actually contribute.
Im sorry about that, I can ask timekeeper if you wish?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jiang WeiI have asked for a partner.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cao CaoThe fact that Jiang Wei hasn't tried to get a replacement for himself given he alleged has a busted monitor says to me this guy is a scummy scummersonQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jiang Wei
les than one minute, I will give a ten minute extension
Who has voted for who Zhuge Liang?
Jiang Wei if want more time to investigate and you haven't voted now would be the time
Just so everyone understands, I was 3rd Party/Town. If I blew up a Mafia member I would win, if I didn't then I would win with the town.
[jiro]You are dead. Dead people do not talk, nor do they confirm their role. Bad TK! - J[/jiro]
Please give me a proper vote count! D:
You said earlier that he might be a new player. I get the same kind of vibe from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhen Ji
I wish I had gotten on earlier to give myself more time to think, but I think I'll have to
##Vote: Jiang Wei
He hasn't been contributing too much. Whether or not his excuses are legit or not isn't my concern.
I guess this day is over. :/
Exactly what I was thinking...
Damn it, I wasn't able to see what Jiang Wei might have been guilty of, if anything. I hope this stab in the dark finds a lucky hit!
Thank GodQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhen Ji
Yes please, not that it matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhuge LiangIm sorry about that, I can ask timekeeper if you wish?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jiang WeiI have asked for a partner.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Cao CaoThe fact that Jiang Wei hasn't tried to get a replacement for himself given he alleged has a busted monitor says to me this guy is a scummy scummersonQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Jiang Wei
oh, I missed the ten minute extension post.
Only if you are mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Ce
:3
##Vote: Meng Huo
That's what I was afraid of. Yue Ying , can't we discuss this even a little? If you can prove to me he is guilty I will vote for him too!
Zhen Ji can you give me a proper vote count? Our host seems to not be honoring my request.
I'm with Brother on this. I'mnot sure what all is going on besides Dao Chan just won the game xD
I was really only voting for him for his lack of contribution and thought losing him whether he was scum or not wouldn't affect much, but now that he's here and showing signs of making arrangements to make himself more available, I'm doubting slightly.
I do think that Meng Huo is innocent though. He hasn't been saying much of substance, true. But as I said before, it looks like a sign of a new player. And new players tend to bandwagon, something scum avoid. That's why I'm not changing my vote..
4 Jiang Wei
3 Meng Huo
Sun Shang Xiang if you have not voted yet, can you please tie it so we can discuss this further and make a proper vote?
plz dont tell me it's tied. where are you seeing the fourth vote zhen ji
Funny, I was hoping a count of who voted who! :p I guess I should just give up and accept the inevitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhen Ji
This is why I want a who voted for who count! Is it tied, can we discuss it more?!?!?!
Jiang Wei, Sun Ce, and myself voted for Meng Huo.
Yue Ying, Lu Meng, and Sima Yi voted for Jiang Wei.
never mind, the day is over. flavor coming up.
Doesn't Lu Meng have a double-vote power?
trouts.
D: Well.... okQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhuge Liang
At least it's over.
And I'm speaking normally.
Well, we have to lynch someone don't we, they said.
Fine, lets go for a quiet person they said.
Jiang Wei was in the shower singing American Pie when they came for him, they never had a chance.
Jiang Wei was a Peasant played by Sir Lancelot. Night 4 has begun.
Yes. At least. Did you get my backwards post just for you :love:
Day 4. Peasant Punishment
My dear friends, during the night an innocent was killed, Zhen Ji appeared to have been beaten to death with rubber chickens last night by unknown assailants. As to who could have commited such a horrible crime I am at a loss. Zhen Ji was a Peasant played by Laddy very skillfully. Good Job.
Ok. Kinda expected this.
Damn you Mafia >:{ Alright! Now we all have to get our acts together. She was serious business. Laying on some thick heat.
Those rubber duckies man, they sting.
chickens* typos man...
I'm trying to go back in all her posts to see who else she was suspicious of. She seemed to know how to read between the lines and deduce who was scummy. I'm really inclined to pay more attention to what she said in the past to see who we should target next.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhen Ji
Why does he have double vote power? I mean it's probably part of his role. But what role has double vote power?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhen Ji
Double Voting townie role. I'm the "Influential Commoner".Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Shang Xiang
OHHHHH ok. Thanks. I have been wondering that for some time now. I just get so caught up I never ask.
No point in hiding it now. Zhuge Liang practically screamed it out yesterday.
gotta stay in character here....Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
MODKILL!
Well I didn't say I had 2 votes. You did!
I was joking
whatever
I figured Zhen Ji would go out, considering she was bustin' some balls if you get what I mean :jokey:
Joking aside, I am beginning to question Guan Yu. What gets me about him is his first reaction to Zhao Yun after his explanation for his role-claim. I'll quote him here.
Now how is lying to us any resemblence of chivalry and/or bravery? I do not get this. Does anyone feel this way, and should we persue after him?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
Anyway. Have we any suspicions today or anyone we should scrutinize?
I'm glad you pointed this out. I don't remember seeing this before. I think it's worth looking into. Or at least pushing him for more information. He hasn't really had too much to say this whole time as well as Meng Huo. That being said, it doesn't give us too much more to go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma ChaoI figured Zhen Ji would go out, considering she was bustin' some balls if you get what I mean :jokey:
Joking aside, I am beginning to question Guan Yu. What gets me about him is his first reaction to Zhao Yun after his explanation for his role-claim. I'll quote him here.
Now how is lying to us any resemblence of chivalry and/or bravery? I do not get this. Does anyone feel this way, and should we persue after him?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
I can't believe I missed that, yes it does seem quite odd... he's always seemed a bit off to me in terms of reliability . Now that I'm finally feeling better Ima go read up on some of his posts. I'll post anything I find strange obviously. Might as well make up for my fail these past few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma ChaoI figured Zhen Ji would go out, considering she was bustin' some balls if you get what I mean :jokey:
Joking aside, I am beginning to question Guan Yu. What gets me about him is his first reaction to Zhao Yun after his explanation for his role-claim. I'll quote him here.
Now how is lying to us any resemblence of chivalry and/or bravery? I do not get this. Does anyone feel this way, and should we persue after him?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
At this point of the game, I do not see this as a very valid reason to give someone the benefit of a doubt... joking isn't exactly the wisest thing to do in mafia, it can very easily get you killed. I feel that either Guan Yu is very lenient or was trying to get the heat off of Zhao. I find this just a tad suspicious to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
Also did anyone catch this role claim? I don't even know what the crap this role is but it seemed to go completely unnoticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
Indeed. Especially when Zhao had been outed as lying poorly about the cop thing. So maybe he was trying, not very well, to defend a comrade?
That role was designed to be a joke I think. He was pretending to be a prostitute so he could make filthy jokes.
The question I want answered is why did Yue Ying not wait to vote until she, Zhen Ji and I had a chance to really analyze the situation. Why did she vote for Jiang Wei, a common peasant, when the only thing he was guilty of was having a broken monitor?
I mean... He could just be played by a newbie? Or he's just really nice. The way I see it is why would someone roleclaim cop if they weren't? To get people to believe they knew who was scum without being pegged as scum themselves. But Zhao was scum. It would be a stupid this to joke about, espically if it came to surface that you were not a cop. So if you thought someone was joking about roleclaiming cop wouldn't you also be suspicious about said person, unless you also wanted other to NOT be suspisious? That's just how I see it.
Hence the pink...
With this and what I just said...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
##Vote: Guan Yu
He may not be guilty but I want to start the fire under his ass to get him to try to defend himself. See what he says and make more deduction about him.
Were they comrades? I mean, I thought the joker role was a third party role? Neither town or mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
I believe it is, that makes things a tad more complicated. I doubt they were comrades to be honest. Considering Zhao was 3rd party it could easily mean that Guan Yu was just being nice... Is it possible that he knew he was a jester and was trying to keep him from winning?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun CeWere they comrades? I mean, I thought the joker role was a third party role? Neither town or mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
It is but he did a good enough job at jumbling everyone thoughts awry. And you would think Mafia would want someone like this around to get in the way. Or maybe they knew someone had Diao Chan's ability and they wanted to keep him above water long enough for her to use it so they could, in turn get rid of 2 town sided folk?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun CeWere they comrades? I mean, I thought the joker role was a third party role? Neither town or mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
We confirmed last night that Zhao was scum. He is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun CeWere they comrades? I mean, I thought the joker role was a third party role? Neither town or mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
I put forth my reasons for voting Jiang Wei, and also said that I felt confident from the way Meng Huo carries himself (being quite a frequent poster in relation to Jiang) that he isn't scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Ce
There were also other people active who could've voted for Meng Huo to even up the ledger. SSX and Lu Meng come to mind, though I'm sure there were others too.
Whoops... heh looked back and you're right. So the confusion that involves him being a third party is now gone. That makes things easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu MengWe confirmed last night that Zhao was scum. He is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun CeWere they comrades? I mean, I thought the joker role was a third party role? Neither town or mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
I could've swore I just posted but... it's not there. okay copy&paste timeQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu MengWe confirmed last night that Zhao was scum. He is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun CeWere they comrades? I mean, I thought the joker role was a third party role? Neither town or mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
Heh... I looked back and re-read and you're right, he wasn't a third party member. Well that helps with the confusion a bit.
Oh it did.... smurf it. HC can you delete the first post?
Should be alright as it is. What's one more post in a 26 page mafia thread? xD
I had voted and if I changed my vote, Meng Huo would have been lynched. Double votes, remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Yue YingI put forth my reasons for voting Jiang Wei, and also said that I felt confident from the way Meng Huo carries himself (being quite a frequent poster in relation to Jiang) that he isn't scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Ce
There were also other people active who could've voted for Meng Huo to even up the ledger. SSX and Lu Meng come to mind, though I'm sure there were others too.
I was going to vote but by the time I could the thread was closed :( That's what i get for walking away for 5 minutes xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Yue YingI put forth my reasons for voting Jiang Wei, and also said that I felt confident from the way Meng Huo carries himself (being quite a frequent poster in relation to Jiang) that he isn't scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Ce
There were also other people active who could've voted for Meng Huo to even up the ledger. SSX and Lu Meng come to mind, though I'm sure there were others too.
My bad. Of courseQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
Well well well! This looks like it is going to be an entertaining day indeed. I fully anticipate I shall be stroking my magnificent beard gleefully during the entire day.
I had been thinking long and hard about how I was going to play this, but seeing as plenty of you seem so intent on making fools of yourselves, I think I shall go big right off the bat!
First of all, I would like to clarify that Lord Lu Meng is indeed correct, the concubine roleclaim was nothing but a joke in order for me to have a little fun with the game. I actually wanted to post it at the end of the first day when all the random roleclaims were happening, but Zhuge Liang closed the thread as I was in the process of writing it. Seemed too much fun to not go with it on day 2, though. There's nothing to that angle.
Secondly, I do find it both amusing and telling that all of you so far attempting to question my credibilty are doing it with extremely select posts and pieces of posts that you can twist to look bad, and totally ignore other, much more informative posts. That being said, suck on this:
I am the cop. Or, if you want the title given to me in my role PM, Scout. I am able to investigate one player each night and get a PM back that says whether they are innocent or guilty. I'm sure you'd all just get very confused and angry if I were to leave it at that, and, seeing as you all so far seem to be so intent on leaving out my own contributions to the game that don't help you paint me as scum, let me give you all a little recap!
First of all, I think you will find that from the moment Zhao Yun claimed cop, I was the only player who consistently refused to even give his idea any sort of credibility. I did not accept the theory that he was an Insane or Paranoid cop. I flat out stated in a later post that he was not any kind of cop. I knew this from the moment he posted his claim because as I have already said, *I* am the cop and my role PM was Scout. Given that all previous revealed roles had a DW flavour, this was pretty much a clear indication that he was not to me.
Want more reasoning? Night 1, I investigated Cao Cao, and he turned up innocent. Go back and check, and you'll note that I was not one of the players who decided to waste a vote on him on day 2, before or after his governor claim. I knew he was innocent already. As I have already stated, I merely wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, because there were a couple of joke roleclaims on the first day, and I wanted to see what he would do. Instead of saying "yes I was joking", he tried to pull what he did, and that's when I knew. And again, I challenge any of you to go back and find any post I have made trying to defend him other than me waiting to see if he was joking or not. It does not exist. I posted before anyone else that he was either scum or a jester. And I, unlike the rest, had actual evidence backing up my claims, which i've now provided.
And just to heat things up a little more, on night 2, I investigated Xiahou Dun. He's guilty as sin. Don't believe me?
##vote Xiahou Dun. And that is final, I will not change it from this point on.
For now, that's all I'm going to say. Enjoy yourselves, and remember, beardjobs are on special offer! Get them while I'm still alive. :aimkiss:
So for the reasons I stated earlier... I think ima go after Guan Yu until he gives a valid reason for me to NOT vote for him.
##vote: [M] Guan Yu
Whoa... okay one second, leme read this post first
unvote: guan yu
Walking away when the we all knew the day was coming to an end? Zhuge was telling us 4 minutes remaining, 2 minutes, 10 minute extension. You were here the whole time through that. And you're away from the computer for the 2 minutes in between Sun Ce asking you to vote Meng Huo and Zhuge ending the day?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Shang Xiang
oh hey Guan Yu posted. pause bitch fight.
oh tit. running late.
I'll be back when I'm at my work computer. So like an hour or so.
This is getting interesting... I have no idea what to say in rebuttal.I want to not believe him but he backed up his argument quite well. If I may, what is everyone's opinion on this?
I'm inclined to believe him. His reply seems sincere and has all the details on with the Cop role should know. And If his claim about Xiahou Dun is even half true we need to investigate.
Well sadly I need to go for a few hours. If I come back dead I will haunt all of you~!
Yeah I agree with this... I think ima believe him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
##unvote: Guan Yu
I assure you Lord Lu Meng, my assertion of Xiahou Dun's guilt is completely true. I do believe he was not part of the crew that voted for Zhao Yun during yesterdays events, and we all know he flipped scum. He was here at the time as well. Plus, as I said, he turned up a big fat guilty in my investigation.
I'm going to sleep right now, but thank you Guan Yu. I will use that information well. And I hope we can work together tomorrow for thee glory of our town and nation.
Guan's claim sounds legit. I only brought up the quote because it sounded questionable at the time and hearing from him with his explanation sounds more believable than Zhou Yun's. Glad we have that covered, and looks like we have ourselves a scum to look at! I'll wait to hear what's there to be said about Xiahou Dun before I make a decision.
Oh well.... I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
##Unvote: Guan Yu
I apologize I have a baby that like to cry sometime and I have to take care of.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Yue YingWalking away when the we all knew the day was coming to an end? Zhuge was telling us 4 minutes remaining, 2 minutes, 10 minute extension. You were here the whole time through that. And you're away from the computer for the 2 minutes in between Sun Ce asking you to vote Meng Huo and Zhuge ending the day?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Shang Xiang
OffTopic: Okay, my few hours gone was re-planned for tomorrow... this is getting annoying.
Now that I have nothing better to do, ima start looking into some more posts regarding Xiahou Dun.
Well I went through quite a few pages, and I noticed that the pages he did post on had the same problem (the same one I had and maybe still have)... his posts don't seem to contribute anything to the conversation at hand. Some do but those certainly aren't in the majority. Hell most of the time it seemed that he would post... just to post. Is this possibly a way to keep him from getting in the spotlight? I think this might be worth diving a bit deeper to find some information.
Are we now just in another waiting game for Xiahou Dun to post his defence?
Hm, a dude with an eyepatch can only be evil though. xD
Ahh yet another case against him, the eyepatch proves his lack of innocence. Actually I was just waiting for someone else to post... didn't seem to happen for quite a while. I want to know others opinion on the matter.
##VOTE: Guan Yu
Sorry, you can be a cop/scout, but I just want to keep our relationship a healthy blossoming flower. That means not blindly accepting a roleclaim, no matter how good, until Zhuge Liang outs you like a dumbass. The claim sounds good, but there's a thousand three-hundred posts through which I would have to go through to find any veracity in it, and I certainly can't be bothered to do it. So while everyone is unvoting you, I can't just go with the crowd today.
Guan Yu, I must wonder about your voting record. Day 1, you go after Yue Ying, okay, first day, what's one vote no one follows, cool. Day 2, I don't see nothing, plenty of time to throw in more than two cents, like, perhaps a vote, but no. I don't think I catch sight of you voting Day 3 either. Sure lot of talking and absolutely no delivery. I hope your Xiahou Dun pays off because you're otherwise sunk in my boat.
Yue Ying, what is up with you? Quiet lass early on, and now you're not posting lame and incomprehensible backwards posts. With the loudest scum out, did they need a new voice? Your first vote was an early one for Zhaou Yun, so that could be the start of an excuse if I ever saw one, and I did not see you near the end of the day when scumbag Liu Bei needed saving. From what I remember of Day 2, you joined Gan Ning in voting for Cao Cao. That sure gained speed and eventually we tried to lynch the Emperor. The more I type and think about it, the more you become suspect.
Zhang Fei, you've been quiet: do you have any thoughts as to where we might search, do you have some insight maybe?
##UNVOTE: Guan Yu
##VOTE: Zhang Fei
Lord Zhang Jiao, while I am clearly a man who can appreciate a good beard, and highly endorses the variety of birds nests that have adorned your handsome chin over the years I would recommend you take another couple of tokes on your peace pipe and think things over again. I think you'll find I made a very valid vote for Zhuge Liang on day 2, pray tell who deserves a lynching more than he? I made an equally valid vote for Jiro on day 3, when Zhao Yun had 50 million votes and the Bogan was soiling our glorious nation. I know very well how you often like to claim that people who do not submit to your cause are defying the will of heaven, but I think it is clear to see I was the one doing God's work on those days!
In all seriousness, you're right, this is the first time i've put a legit vote in on anyone. Up until now, I've had no valid reason to throw a vote on anyone. So long as nobody called me out on it (namely Prime Minister Zhuge Liang and the Bogan) it worked in my favour to do nothing. Even though I knew Cao Cao was innocent, revealing my hand at that stage to prove it would have been a waste, and thankfully he claimed governor and was confirmed anyway. That people continued to persist in voting for him after that came out gave me even less reason to make a serious vote. It would not have benefit me in any way.
Similarly, as I've already explained I was not prepared to make any move on Zhao Yun while I was unsure of his true nature, but maintained my position on him the whole while. In short order he found himself nearing majority vote levels, I was not prepared to lay a vote on a potential Jester and there was no point gunning for anyone else when the rest of the town were so adamant. All it would have done is forced me to reveal my hand sooner than I wanted. I voted Bogan, everyone let it slide, mores the power to me.
Regardless, you are free to do as you wish. I am the God of War, I fear neither man nor my own mortality, and I will always walk the path of BENEVOLENCE! I only hope that you will not lack the testicular fortitude to stand up and be counted for when my words are proved true, and your unwarranted suspicion is cast back upon yourself. :aimkiss:
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well, class, I was pretty convinced Guan Yu was another scum at the end of the day. he seemed reluctant to push the issue with Zhao Yun and I thought he was tryng to put doubt in our heads. then he makes this cop claim and I don't know what to think. i'll have to take a peek into my records to see if he makes the grade.
for now, I believe him, because I don't think mafia would play the phony cop angle twice. he also did make sense with the explanation of his role. much more than Zhao Yun at least. :laugh:
i have some questions about the end of the day but I need to go read through it again first.
ok, I had a long post typed up but then ie lost it and I'm not about to type it again. :( here's the short version:
how was there not a tie at the end of the day? i counted only 3 votes for Jiang and 3 for Meng. and I am including Lu Meng's two votes.
second, Meng Huo is accusing Xiahou of the same thing he is doing. that is, posting without real substance. seems weird.
third, there were 3 nighs but Guan Yu only revealed two investigations unless I missed it. are you keeping that night 3 investigation in your beard Guan or did you not think about that when you tried this little ploy?
also like everyone else I want to hear what Xiahou has to say if anything.
also I used this image in an amusing fashion but I forgot how now
http://pics.livejournal.com/dwell_ondreams/pic/0009tkwz
*takes a sleep potion*
I was wondering if anyone was going to pick up on that, but yes Lord Sima you are right. At this time I see no reason to divulge the results of my last investigation. As should have become increasingly clear, I am loath to play my cards too soon. Trust me, in my other line of work, you quickly learn of the embarrasment that can accompany blowing a wad too soon. :breine:
Too bad Guan Yu. I'm the 8th guard. I can protect someone at night at the cost of directing the attack at myself. Pretty useless role if you ask me. I haven't protected anyone cause of the risk. Useless role is useless.
In my opinion you're lying or your cop role is messed up.
But then again nobody can confirm roleclaims so we could both be lying.
You decide.
And I believe I've proved my innocence by taking out a scum right? While you all sat back not voting and taking back votes, even though you knew he was lying.
Spare me the jester crap please.
So think about it. I'm mafia. Liu Bei and Zhao Yun being my partners. I let Liu Bei be lynched. And the next day I have Zhao lynched. If I were mafia i would have tried to save them. Example : I would have gone with the whole jester crap and took back my vote like some others did. Two consequent deaths are never beneficial for a mafian.
And I think your investigation on Cao Cao is bogus because he's the only one whose role is confirmed to be innocent.
That's all i have to say in my defense.
Also I really want to know who you investigated on Night 3.
An interesting proposal, Lord Xiahou Dun! How delightfully convenient for you, a role that is useless. It is a shame that it is not the role you actually have, though, because you are a scum through and through. Your vote for Zhao Yun is meaningless, he was a dead man either way. And two dead mafians could be infinitely useful for mafia who had the level heads to turn the situation to their advantage, however, you do not.
And as you wish, my 3rd investigation was Lord Sima Yi. He was also innocent. How then, do you propose that this is so if my cop role is broken as you claim? I maintain, and shall be proven true, that you are scum. Lords Cao Cao and Sima Yi are both innocent. If you would like to somehow prove that both Lord Cao Cao and Sima Yi are scum along with myself, please feel free to do so if you feel you have the evidence. I'm willing to bet you don't, though.
Finally, nothing is "too bad" for me. There are only a few ways this duel can end, and the majority of them favour me (and therefore town). Would you like me to explain them?
Best Ending: You are lynched, and you flip scum. We have a REAL doctor, who protects me, and everything I have put forth so far is proven and the town are in a very strong position.
Medium ending 1: You are lynched, and you flip scum. We have no doctor, and I am killed by the mafia. Not ideal, but justice still prevails.
Medium ending 2: The town are fooled by you and your comrades scummy tactics, and lynch me. I flip scout/cop (which I will), and you've brought yourself 24 more hours, but you will go down, and anyone who supports you will have made themselves immediately suspicious.
Worst ending: Everyone ignores us, votes for someone completely random and you and your comrades whack someone random. This proves nothing and helps no one.
As long as the last outcome is avoided, your time, good sir, is ticking away, and you will be exposed. By all means, flail and struggle to claw your way out of your guilt all you want, in the end you shall fall. as I said earlier, I am the God of War and I fear no man nor my own mortality, because I have the truth on my side, and no matter what happens to me, the truth shall send you to the grave sooner or later. Let's just hope the town make the right choice and get shot of you sooner rather than later!
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You shouldn't be the one to talk. You KNEW he was lying and did not even vote!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
My vote was placed from the start. I even tried to persuade the others who were one by one removing their votes. And it all began with the senseless jester talk. So my vote was far from meaningless.
And also you're only trying to prove my guilt by YOUR investigation, which can be a huge lie for that matter. What were you thinking? "Claiming cop after Zhao's flip will make me sound more believable?"
You cannot base your arguments on a claim that might be false.
Again with the Liu Bei incident: only SSX, Meng Huo, Lu Bu, and Sun Ce had a chance to try to save him as they posted during the last hour of Day 1, after I made the deciding vote. You weren't there, Xiahou Dun.
Zhao Yun was a dead man for his insistent roleclaim and sudden vote for Cao Cao. We stopped it from a speed-lynch in case he actually was a Seppuku Specialist, but he was going to swing unless the mafia pulled off a miracle, and that's a huge risk most would balk at.
Agh, in the shower I had come up with a new line of questioning, but it seems I've misplaced it. I hope it comes to me after work when I'm chilling with a delicious snack of smoke.
If Guan Yu is mafia, the only way I can see him lynched before Xiahou Dun is if someone else comes forward as a cop. I know it's taboo to be asking for roleclaims, but if you are an actual cop and you're watching someone claim your role in front of you, you need to come forward now.
I gotta put on pants and get to work. I don't even know if I will be back in ten hours, there's a meeting on top of a long day coupled together. Early apologies, don't get to pissed, etc..
No cop is going to make a roleclaim this early as it means sure death the next day. That's why i don't buy Guan Yu's story. I mean if he really was the cop he would have said so the day Zhao claimed it, going by your logic. Right?
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Even though you seem to be hell bent on getting everyone to gloss over this point, Lord Dun, I shall not let you. I will reiterate it once more because you do seem to enjoy going on about it so much: I did not cast a vote for Zhao Yun because I had already ascertained, through his own actions and my scout/cop role, that he was not a cop as he was trying to claim, and that the only possible options left open to him thanks to the evidence he had given us were those of mafia, and jester. I pointed this out before anyone else here. And please do not try to dismiss it as being of no consequence, a win for the jester is a loss for the town. To vote for someone who may be a jester because they may also be scum is not the forgone conclusion you would seem to have us think it is. Further, if I recall, at one stage he was only 1 vote away from a majority lynch. Had this have happened, Diao Chan would have never had the opportunity to do her thing, thereby ridding us of one scum AND providing us a chance to get another.
Unfortunately, the town voted to lynch innocent Jiang Wei, though you'll have a hard time proving I had anything to do with that. I did not. And if I have been trying to aid mafia throughout the game as you so claim, why would I not slap a vote down on innocent Jiang? One less townie, right? But no, nothing to do with me.
Pray tell, then, what are you trying to prove my guilt on exactly? Your claim that you are town and I am a big fat liar? Please explain to us all how your claim has any more credibility than mine? I have submit before all of you that I have investigated Cao Cao, you and Sima Yi. Cao Cao and Sima Yi innocent, you scum. Cao Cao is proven innocent, I did not vote for him. Of course, there is no reason to believe that I did not find this out after his roleclaim for now, but time will prove me truthful. So I have no real fear for what may come to pass this day, other than the town inexplicably not voting for either of us.
As for your latest claim, you are clutching at straws. As has already been demonstrated, by my own admissions and YOUR own arguments, I have had plenty of opportunity to claim cop already. I could have done it on day two for Cao Cao, or day three for Zhao Yun, but decided to hold back until now, when I had enough investigations under my belt for ammunition and had spent enough time doing not much of anything to keep it under wraps until I needed it. 7 out of 20 people are dead, with 2 more to go today. How much longer am I supposed to keep quiet about it? For all we know there could be a doctor, and he might do his job. He may let me die. It matters not, because again as long as either you or I die, my point will be proven and any who associate with you become suspect.
Whichever way it goes, so long as one of us die, is fine by me. I just hope the town make the right decision. They have to choose one of us to kill, and, before they make their choice I would like them to consider the implications of their choices.
If I am telling the truth about my Role, and you vote to lynch Xiahou Dun, you kill a scum, and gain a confirmed scout/cop for however long the scum see fit to leave me alive, depending on the existance of a good doctor. If I am lying about my role, and am a mafia, and Xiahou Dun is an "8th Guard", you lose a townie, yes, but in his own words an utterly useless one because he does not intend to ever use his power because he values his own life too much, even if it were to save a cop/scout or a doctor, or even the emperor who could have saved a stoplynch. You also have an undeniable mafia.
IF however I am telling the truth, and you decide to side with Xiahou Dun, who is lying, you lynch off one of, if not the only scout/cops on the town side, and have a mafia. If by some crazy mechanic of HC's we're both telling the truth, well, I stil leave it up to you which role is more worthy of the gamble. And just to clarify before Xiahou Scum tries to twist my words, these are merely examinations of the ramifications of each scenario. I hold that he is scum, and I am a cop.
Your post works only if you really are the cop. Sadly, we cannot confirm that.
What proof did you have for the jester? Are you kidding me? Logically a jester would not exist in a mafia with few players like this one. And usually jesters aren't allowed to gather attention that early. The whole Jester affair was a mafia tactic to try and save Zhao. Thank God it didn't work.
In my eyes you're just a mafia scum who's trying to divert the attention to someone else (after getting almost everyone to vote for you) by doing something outrageous like claiming cop, a day after someone else claimed and lied. You'd think that the third time will be more believable. And it seems like you were correct, it appears to have worked. But I will not believe you. I know what my role is, and the fact that you're SO sure about me being scum is enough for me to think that you want to blame it all on me. A rational person would have considered the existence of a framer right? But you didn't because you probably KNOW that there is no framer in the mafia. The reason for that is clear.
You say my claim is useless but so is yours.
(That's Edgeworth right? He's known for always getting a guilty verdict right, using every method.)
I have freely admitted there is no way to confirm I am the cop until I die. I do not see what you wish to gain by reiterating my own points.
Your hindsight is indeed powerful, but please explain to me how we were supposed to confirm he was mafia before he flipped, other than a cop investigating him, which I did not do. Furthermore, I don't believe you can provide any proof that I categorically stated he was a jester either. My only assertion was that he was not the cop he was claiming he was, and as I've already said, going off of his own reactions to the situation he found himself in the only logical explainations for his actions were either mafia or jester. And i've clarified my stance on the jester role enough as it is.
There very well could be a framer, and if so you are quite unfortunate that he decided to pick you on the day I investigated you, but it does not change the fact that I investigated you and you turned up guilty. It also does not change the fact that I am a cop. If you are being framed, and end up dying unjustly because of me, then I will have done us and the town a disservice, but whenever I go it will still prove that I am a cop and that nothing I've said so far is a lie. I am not dealing with ifs, buts or maybes, only what is laid down in front of me. Either way, your idea is still speculation at best.
And I think you'll find that I actually asked you to explain how your claim had any more credibility than mine. I believe I've gone to great lengths to make it quite clear that siding with either one of us is a gamble to the town, if I have not made that clear enough already I apologise and state it openly right now. You're just picking at anything you can.
His link with Liu Bei perhaps? His many flaws, unintentional contradictions? I assure you if he had been a jester he would be like : I'm mafia, hang me. But no, he went and created an entire story. Hardly what a jester would do. The reason he linked it with Liu Bei was probably to help clear his fellow mafians. That was enough proof for me. I started believing it more when the jester talk came up, because it was clear to me that that was just a tool to help him get away with it.
Of course it's a speculation. I can't explain your investigation any other way than with a framer.
I also never said my claim had more credibility. I said that both our claims have no credibility.
Do you really think i would have claimed Bodyguard out of all the roles? Heck to make your investigation seem credible I would have claimed Miller right now. But it works in reverse too right? Everything does, for that matter.
Xiahou, it is interesting that you have lied back all this time and now decide to pop up once you are outed and make some posts of substance. looks like the guantlet has been thrown down and it's Guan or Xiahou today. I'm more inclined to believe Guan mostly for this reason:
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Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
you didn't think to use that role to protect the confirmed governor that everyone believes? a role that can trade an confirmed town death for an unconfirmed one is not useless. Guan has explained his role and the way he used it very well, but you have not.
Guan, you mentioned you never voted for Cao Cao, but why did you not stick up for him more? if Xiahou was your day 2 guilty verdict then why didn't you vote for him that day? to behonest I am asking these questions based on what I remember so if it did happen in that sea of posts please forgive me. i am not going through 40 pages of posts at 7am.
one more thing, Xiahou why haven't you voted for Guan? if you are what you say you are then his story does not make any sense, and that would make him scum. or do you know something we don't?
##Vote: Xiahou Dun
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Guys, I fear I may have just messed up the entire mafia game for everyone, please give me a moment to think.
Will the game end?
Find out Next time on... MAFIA!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu Meng
This is a lot of stuff to come back to. I know it's not very many posts, but they are long and in depth. Well, Guan Yu's are. As I see it, Lord Dun is trying to grasp at anything he can to stand up to Yu's words. I'm not saying he's scum but his story just seems to be made up as he goes.
Why would you call your role useless? Being able to save someone who we know is Innocent, or have an important role, like Cao Cao seems to be pretty beneficial to me.
I have not lied back Sima. I've only spoken when I had something to say. And now that I'm being made to pass for something that I'm not is where I really need to speak!
I did not use my role because it's a very risky one. It means certain death to me, and I don't really want to die. I want to keep on playing. Besides, I'm sure there's a doctor alive, since my role is flawed.
And I believe I can vote whenever I want to right? What does that prove anyway?
I think it's you who are grasping at everything and blaming it on me.
I think I'v fixed things... we'll see. If I ruined this for you guys I will put the word homo across my avatar for a month
ROFL. I'm not saying you should have used it. I'm saying its not useless, as you claimed it to be.
If you want to stay alive then it is useless.
This is how I reasoned :
- If I don't protect then I can only die by mafia targeting me.
- If I DO protect then I can die either from mafia targeting me or from mafia targeting the person I protect. So I'm more likely to die this way.
Well that's fine when you're only looking out for number 1. I'm just saying that if you have a role that wins when the town wins then you would want to ensure the most powerful people stay alive so that the town wins. Not just protect your own booty.
Like I said before, it's not that I'm saying you are scum. It just seems bit... uhh... Dismantled?
I have read everyone's argument and I find Gaun Yu's argument well presented and more persuasive. In fact, other than Zhen Ji, he's the only one who has made any sense!
##Vote: Xiahou Dun
No that's not it. You're only believing him because he claimed cop!
Zhao Yun claimed cop and no one believed him.
Yeah but Zhao Yun contradicted his claims. He claimed an investigation on a night that did not exist.
I'm saying that in my claim vs Guan's, Guan's wins because the cop is more believable.
You've all criticized my role but never did you question Guan's.
I don't think its the role, I think it has more to do with the way the role was presented.
So being truthful about it is working against me. I should have probably made up a few "protections" and presented it a little better.
I think there's something wrong with his investigation. I'm innocent yet he claims guilty. I would have thought him as Paranoid. But he claims he investigated Cao. So I don't know what to make of it. A framer? Possible, but highly unlikely. I'm thinking about the stuff Zhuge said, and If they have something to do with our situation.
Though with the way things are going i guess i should just give up. No one is believing me anyway.
Giving up isn't helping your case, either. You haven't been voted against yet, besides one person so you must be doing something right. With both of you roleclaiming it's really a 50/50 on who's telling the truth. The way you two were talking it would seem the one of you is Mafia, but it's hard to tell which one. Though there is a small small chance that both of you are the same side....
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You actually have posted quite a bit. It just wasn't during times I was around, I guess. Or maybe your posts didn't have much merit behind them that they seemed forgettable. :monster: Or maybe I got confused by all these stupid names again. My main point is that you seemed to have showed up in full force as soon as Guan outed you when before you have been pretty forgettable in the discussions.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
You are speculating that there is a doctor and that they will do your job for you. You had an obvious town (Cao Cao) that you could have protected. Lu Meng the double voter has also been basically outed and worthy of your sacrifice. I can't say that not doing your job is necessarily scummy, but it's terrible playing.Quote:
I did not use my role because it's a very risky one. It means certain death to me, and I don't really want to die. I want to keep on playing. Besides, I'm sure there's a doctor alive, since my role is flawed.
My point is, Guan has called you out. Based on his investigations and results, at least one of you has to be lying scum, but that doesn't seem to bother you too much. You are way more focused on defending yourself than getting to the bottom of this "false" roleclaim. It screams scumtell.Quote:
And I believe I can vote whenever I want to right? What does that prove anyway?
I think it's you who are grasping at everything and blaming it on me.
In the end, that's really what it comes down to. I believe his claim because I don't think the mafia would try the cop angle twice in a row. It's pretty risky. xD He also explained himself and his actions very well. Since no other cop has come forward, and no one except you has refuted his claim, this is what I'm going with.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
Actually Can I get a vote count and time left?
I did question him. I asked him who his third investigation was, and other things like why he didn't go after you in Day 3. We'll have to wait until he comes around to answer. Until then, any information you can give us that may refute his claim would be helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
It could be that i didn't post much because i'm forgettable and no one paid attention. However now that you're focusing all your attention on me i have to fight back right?Quote:
You actually have posted quite a bit. It just wasn't during times I was around, I guess. Or maybe your posts didn't have much merit behind them that they seemed forgettable. Or maybe I got confused by all these stupid names again. My main point is that you seemed to have showed up in full force as soon as Guan outed you when before you have been pretty forgettable in the discussions.
I'm playing this game so that i can enjoy myself. If i had protected Cao (who i suspected would be a certain mafia target) i would have died and missed the entire game. I don't really care about winning.Quote:
You are speculating that there is a doctor and that they will do your job for you. You had an obvious town (Cao Cao) that you could have protected. Lu Meng the double voter has also been basically outed and worthy of your sacrifice. I can't say that not doing your job is necessarily scummy, but it's terrible playing.
At least that's how i saw things. Cao has survived till now.
That's all i can do. I gave possible explanations to his claims. I don't know what else to think. I know he's wrong but i cannot prove it.Quote:
My point is, Guan has called you out. Based on his investigations and results, at least one of you has to be lying scum, but that doesn't seem to bother you too much. You are way more focused on defending yourself than getting to the bottom of this "false" roleclaim. It screams scumtell.
Then i have nothing else to say.Quote:
In the end, that's really what it comes down to. I believe his claim because I don't think the mafia would try the cop angle twice in a row. It's pretty risky. xD He also explained himself and his actions very well. Since no other cop has come forward, and no one except you has refuted his claim, this is what I'm going with.
Another thing we didn't consider is a lyncher/lynchee situation. I only mention this because the last time I saw it it kind of went the same way as this. The lyncher laid low for a while but acted crazy enough to not get night killed, then claimed cop and that the lynchee was scum. Last time the lynchee was a vanilla town, but the mods could have given him bodyguard to improve the chances of him dying at night (since Lyncher is a pretty easy role to win with as it is).
Of course, if this is true then I don't know what we could do about it. It's also a long shot. I'm still buying the cop roleclaim as true.
Silly Del.
After reading the arguments going on between Guan and Xiahou, I have decided that Guan is very likely telling the truth. I cannot see the truths within Xiahou's claims, albeit being well thought out, but why would he look out for himself rather than help town in any way, even if it meant dying? Diao sacrificed herself so we can take out Zhao Yun if he was really a Jester. Glad that it didn't turn out that way, so I'm going to cast my vote on Xiahou Dun.
##Vote: Xiahou Dun
That might sound outrageous to the others but it makes perfect sense with me. I know that Guan's claim for me is false for sure. What other reason would he have to declare me guilty other than that?
But still i doubt that's the case. It's like the whole jester affair.
Well I'm back from my comfy bed read up on all the recent posts. I pretty much completely believe Guan Yu's role claim now... but Dun's backup argument does not seem to be nearly as well fortified.
The way you play your "8th guard" is pretty interesting, wasting a stoplynch, and letting very useful townies die. Now I understand that you want to continue to experience the game, but a decent strategy can make the game a much better experience.
##vote: [M] Xiahou Dun
There's no reason behind it at all. Other than me wanting to play for more. I'm not Diao-chan.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
It may sound selfish but that's all there is to it. I've always died early when I was town anyway.
Also before you start judging my role how about making a role claim for yourself.
I smell this is all something to make the blame fall on me. All your complaints on my role when YOU'RE LYNCHING A TOWN FOR GOD'S SAKE! So what if i haven't used my role? I'm still town. You should seek MAFIA out. Nobody is focusing on that fact. You just take Guan's claim as truth and go on with weak arguments. Meh whatever. I'm glad i didn't protect anyone.
I'm glad I'm not the only one making this argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
This one as well. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Meng Huo
Alright well, this has been entertaining and all and I was quite enjoying it, but I just got back after taking a nap and checked this account up, and with regards to what Zhuge Liang posted earlier as to potentially breaking the game, well, I hate to say it because it's been so much fun but he apparently sent me the wrong results to my search and Xiahou Dun is indeed innocent. He says he'll post here to confirm this after I post it so xD
Chalk up another soon to be confirmed role as well. :shobon: hi guys do you like my uniform
Seriously? What so all this talk for nothing? Seriously I need some air...
Oh, so that's what he meant by breaking the game. Well, crap. Worst host ever, making us all worked up over nothing.
##Unvote: Xiahou Dun
##Vote: Zhuge Liang (Not really, but this is outrageous!)
I can fully get behind this course of action.
##Unvote Xiahou Dun
##Vote Zhuge Liang
...Seriously... So like the only little bit of a lead we did have is now diminished... I knew there was a reason I was putting off my vote xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
Where has Cao Cao been all day? And can someone please give me a list of in actives?
I also noticed that if the host confirms Guan's statement, not only would we spare Xiahou, we will also have a confirmed Cop. Oh, this could either be a blessing or a curse. I don't really know.
We could always look into everyone who was straight up agreeing with what turned out to be totally false allegations, but I dunno. Seems kinda harsh on the mafia as well really, they must have been wondering what the smurf thinking they'd had some kind of miracle xD
also, just for the record, this is the second time Zhuge sent me a wrong guilty result, only last time he corrected it straight away. This time I besmirched the good name of an innocent man because of it. Also, given now that he may actually be innocent and that everyone else i've searched is innocent, I'm not convinced that I'm not a useless weak cop so it might not be so much of a boon for the town after all. (keep in mind, i'm not saying this just to drop Zhuge in it, people i've searched may be guilty and he's just sending me the results of a normal cop instead of my actual weak cop, or they're innocent. I don't know what the smurf to think really)
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Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
##DemonKill : Zhuge Liang
I do hope that for now there are no hard feelings, Lord Xiahou Dun! Well, apart from later on in my bedchambers of course, you can have a special service to night to make up for this. I think at least you can see now I wasn't just randomly trying to ruin your game for no reason!
wait... oh my god
unvote: xiahou dun
Well to be honest I thought it was all sort of a big complot against me. Glad to know no one was thinking that far.
The good thing is we now have 4 confirmed town. Which means the mafia must be from the rest.
I believe you'll be wearing your uniform? :jokey:Quote:
Well, apart from later on in my bedchambers of course, you can have a special service to night to make up for this.
Well until you said they were false, we didn't know. You told us he was bad and we believed you. I don't think believing a cop makes one Scum, but that's just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
Officer Naughty will be waiting to give you more than a ticket or two Lord Dun, I assure you. :aimkiss:
And yeah like I said I don't really know what the smurf right now. Can we even keep on playing this game? Should we do a role reshuffle? Idk. Things are pretty crazy right now. I guess we could just end the day with no lynch (unless there is anyone anybody else fancies going after) and have a quiet night and then start again the next day without prejudice. I have no idea.
I don't think that will get us anywhere. If we don;t lynch and have no night kill , we would still be in this situation. Unless, like you said we have a role reshuffle, but even that might just confuse things more so then they already are.
I still have 2 votes though :\
Considering that Meng's unvote counts even though it has no ##.
Well who are the ones that still have a vote against you?
Well, in any case, we're all back to square one unless someone has a better idea. Can we vote no lynch? I'll go ahead and try.
##Vote: No lynch
Sima and Sun Ce. I'm gonna vote on Zhang Fei just in case. And a draw will result in no lynch anyway :p
##Vote : Zhang Fei
oops thanks for catching that....
##unvote: Xiahou Dun
We could all vote the same inactive and hope their role is Mafia xD Not that it's a very good idea. But as of now we have nothing. No lynch/nightkill will not get us anywhere we aren't already. But we have nothing to go with on anyone else.
I sadly have to agree with you on that. Who have been the most inactive so far in this game?
Jesus smurfing christ this game is a clustersmurf.
##Unvote: Xiahou Dun
I'm done with this game. This town. I don't even.
*sigh* At least we know the cop thing is confirmed, or will be confirmed by Zhuge. Xiahou's defense was also pretty unwavering, so I guess he's in the clear, but I'm not going to rule out naive cop. This means I now have to go through old posts now to see who to vote for, which I really don't have time to do. -_- Why do I even play this game still?
I really hate you all. :love:
Baby I did nothing wrong.
So that means
Zhang Fei - 2
Xiahou Dun - 1
What should we do? Has Zhang Fei posted anywhere? Don't remember seeing him.
I don't really think voting inactives is going to get us anywhere but whatever. I'll let my vote be for now.
Yeah, I never questioned nothing. I am very sad this has turned straight into a Xiahou Dun VS Guan Yu duel, with no discussion of much else.
I would be interested in what people have to say about:
A cult - someone brought it up and it is a big game, and people of late have begun to vote in blocks. Easy to tack up to coincidence, but I'm not so sure. No evidence yet, but I hate surprises.
Yue Ying - Did she really get tired of her gimmick or did she have to step up to the plate for Zhao Yun? She voted early on Day 1 & 2, early on set herself against Zhao Yun, and was one of the dead set votes against Cao Cao on Day 2. Why is she so set against SSX when we have two roleclaimers against each other? I must have missed her evidence so would like that.
Zhang Fei - HOW QUIET YOU ARE, "BETRAYAL" GUY. I still have not forgotten that strange post you made to a "Mr.Yin" and I want to know who that is. A typoed Sima Yi?
And as a final aside, how do people feel about Ma Chao? Day 1, voted for Liu Bei after Gan Ning did, took it off, and didn't vote again or show up in that crucial last hour. Didn't vote Day 2, and I don't know if he talked much. Day 3 was an easy vote for Zhao Yun, and wha--
WTF WTF WTF
While searching for more posts by Ma Chao, I apparently caught up to speed on what's been going on, I must have had a page cached or something because I totally missed Zhuge Liang fsking things up all over again.
Uh. Give me some time to adjust.
Alright, I actually did work, so appreciate it. xD
The people who voted for Liu Bei were: Gan Ning, Meng Huo, Huang Gai, and Zhang Jiao. Now, while killing off your partner early avoid suspicion is a tactic I know all too well, I don't think Meng Huo or Huang Gai are skilled enough players to try it. Zhang Jiao maybe, but I don't think so at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhang Jiao
It should be voted SSX couldn't have saved Liu if she wanted to since she was the second highest in votes for that day. Note that she didn't vote for Liu even though that was the case. I don't know what that means.
The people who voted for SSX were: Diao Chan, Zhang Fei, Liu Bei. Zhang Fei could have been trying to protect his mafia bud here.
I'm going to ignore Day 2 for now since it was a mess and people kept voting for Cao Cao even after the mod confirmed his role which was pretty stupid.
Aaaaaannd you know what. I'm going to stop there because I'm getting tired of this confusing game and I've wasted enough time trying to figure it out already.
##Vote: Zhang Fei
Process of elimination at this point. Really has nothing to do with inactiveness, but that's not helping either. Maybe he'll post now.
So I do not know how to feel about this game right now. Sima Yi seems pretty good at slamming down on an innocent guy, right?
##UNVOTE: Yue Ying
##VOTE: Sima Yi
If only because you paint people into villains way too well. I think Xiahou Dun and Guan Yu are both in the clear, and the other big persuasive talker than Guan is you.
Ok. I'm back and what a mindsmurf this page of posts has been. So we have another 2 confirmed townies. Great to hear. However, we have wasted most of the day looking at the wrong player. Now we need to refocus and start our investigation anew. Suggestions?
It's so true. xD I guess it's just in my nature.
You have not voted for Yue Zhang.
Wasn't sure, again had a long day and I knew I had been considering her.
##UNVOTE: Zhang Fei
QUIT JUMPING ON MY VOTE AND MAKING IT A TRAIN THAT IS EVEN WORSE.
##VOTE: Sima Yi
For what it's worth, I did say that my 3rd investigation was Sima Yi and that he came back innocent, the issue there is if my role is an actual cop or a naive one. I don't know. I don't know anything anymore zhuge liang what have you done to me I wish i could just go back to being a simple concubine :( :( :(
Could you investigate yourself to find out if you are Naive?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu