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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Worst plot twist, FFX for the whole "Tidus is some dead people's dream". If they had planned to kill him off instead of Yuna, they could have done it better, instead of throwing this odd ball twist that served no purpose rather than to kill Tidus off in the end.
    You see, I always loved this because it helped show the changes in Tidus' character by the end. He went from being a bit of a whiny jock to selfless hero. I mean he knew he was going to die when they beat Sin. This wasn't a "this is very dangerous and we could be killed" sort of situation. Win or lose, he knew he'd be gone but he fought to stop Sin anyway.

    As for what I thought was the weakest moment in the series story-wise, FFVIII comes to mind.

    Characters: GF's made us forget we were orphans.
    Irvine: I knew you all the entire time but decided to never mention it until now.
    Characters: How can we fight Edea now that we know she raised us?

    Of all the convoluted piles of crap. I would have preferred them knowing all about their past from the start and realising who Edea was when they first saw her. Would have made a lot more sense and been much less of a slap in my face. I can't stand plot devices this stupid meant to heavy handedly engineer drama. The story could easily have worked without this with a little rewriting and may have had more of a positive impact on me.

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    FFVIII. I would say the whole smurfing game, but that would be a little too judgmental. I think the whole "Oh, the GFs made us lose all our memories and we've actually known each other since we were kids" thing is possibly the worst plot twist I've ever seen. I seriously imagine a group of Squaresoft writers sitting in a room, halfway done with their game, and coming to the conclusion that their game wasn't going anywhere, so they had to throw some in there to tie it all together. Bad, bad, bad, bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NINJA_Ryu View Post
    You know whats the worst?

    Final Fantasy the FIRST!

    geez, how did anyone EVER like it!

    Mundane plot, ZERO charachter development, and they didnt even have Cid!

    Chaos? Lame villan, period.
    Yeah I still to this day have no idea what I was doing when I was playing it, all I knew was Chaos was bad, so I kill him. Then the games over and I'm just confused. I don't know why I killed him but I know I did good because the game said so.

    I didn't have the attention span to keep up with FFVIII, In my head there was 18 plots going on at the same time twisting into this horrible pretzel of doom.

    And still regardless of how much I love VI, Everyone seems like everythings going to be A-Okay after you kill Kefka, and AGAIN, for the 100th time. FFVI planet doesn't heal itself like FFVII's does, Therefore..
    Yay someone grew a plant! But prolly 20 minutes later an earthquakes going to hit and everything dies. I'd want to see a thingo showing what happened after they killed kefka because I'm sure with out the goddess' keeping things intact, that worlds got to have 20times the fail than the world of ruin had. I'd take Kefka torching everything over the planet trying to repair itself//crumbling slowly to it's demise any day.

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    Life is the most prevalent thing in the universe. Given basic resources like water, air, and soil, it'll always manage to survive, and sometimes it even finds a way to thrive without those things. In the World of Ruin, its main obstacle was Kefka himself, and once the heroes offed him, there was no oppressive force left to stop it from spreading again.

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    FFII- The emperor can create cyclones that wipe cities of the map, but gets taken out by a group of four? That has always seemed a bit...odd to me. Also, "Oh, Leon betrayed us for no reason and tried to kill us, but it's okay, he says he's on our side now." :rolleyes2 Morons.

    FFIV- Bad guy's from the moon. "nuff said.

    VIII- The whole GF memory thing came off way too forced. The sad part is that it could have been done well.

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    I liked the FFVIII memory thing .

    I always wondered why Shinra sent Sephy-popo to Nibelheim when the mansion there contained an assload of secrets about him .

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    The worst story point for me was Cloud's "I thought I was in SOLDIER, but really I was a total loser" part. The sad thing is that this is probably the best case of character development in the entire story, even though anyone who has ever written anything would tell you it's lame.

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    Let's face it, the best thing about FFVIII's plot was that it was so damn ridiculous it was funny.

    As for Tidus, they could have done it better. It was convulated and the only reasoning I can think of as to why they did it was to write themselves out of the whole time travel mess they made. Let's face it, the only decent time travel story in the FF series was FFI... Besides, it has so many plot holes that can be unraveled by simple logic. Like how does he have memories of his real life? Hell, did he even exist in the first place?

    Up until this point, I thought Cloud's true past had been the greatest let down in plot twists for the series but damn... (SPOILER)A supposed wuss who was able to get the best of an elite military bio weapon has convinced himself he's a bad ass just can't beat the guy who is a figment of a dead dude's imagination...:rolleyes2

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara View Post
    FFII- The emperor can create cyclones that wipe cities of the map, but gets taken out by a group of four? That has always seemed a bit...odd to me.
    This is normal in RPGs. Kefka, Kuja, Ex-Death, Lavos, etc. All of them couldn't be deffeated by the heros, because they are so much more powerful than the heros that is not even funny. But they were deffeated.
    The only "logical" explanation is that the heros allways win. Or that the villains lost because they have a limited number of HP.

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    I always wondered why Shinra sent Sephy-popo to Nibelheim when the mansion there contained an assload of secrets about him .
    Me too.

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    Let's see now.

    FFI - The whole time loop thing. I still don't think it makes sense.

    FFIV - I think everyone was too harsh towards Edward when his home and kingdom were destroyed. It was also kind of foolish of the characters to go to the Sealed Cave and get the crystal since Golbez couldn't get there himself.

    FFVI - There's pretty much no storyline in the World of Ruin. Sure, there's a lot of character development, but pretty much the only thing that happens there is (SPOILER)the characters defeating Kefka.

    FFVIII - The GFs causing everyone to forget they've been in the same orphanage, except Irvine who didn't use GFs for some reason. Even the way how they were in the same orphanage felt like a cheap way to tie those characters together.

    That's some of the things I could come up, at least for now.
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    Everything in FFVIII made me hate RPGs a little.

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    See, I have a different thought on the plot twist of FFVIII-nevermind that I thought it was just the sort of thing that I looked at and went "...oooohhkay..." I think they did it to create threads like this one.

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    FF1: Not much storyline and no character development. In any case, it was a nice change from the following Final Fantasies whose storylines are MADE to confuse the player.

    FF2: No levels, and more bad character development. In my opinion, the WORST ff ever! (No, I haven't played X-2 yet)

    FF4: "Let's kill off all the characters and bring them back to life, then bring in a new main enemy halfway through the game and when they defeat him they all become royalty!" Wtf??!

    FF5: Ex-Death. The most annoying villain ever.

    FF7: Cloud's past. "I lived in Nibelheim and it burned down but no-one remembers anything! But wait, no, it can't be true, because Hojo created me after Sephy died! But, wait, I KILLED Sephy! Whaddya know, I really DID grow up in Nibelheim, but everything else I made up about my life!" I like Cloud, but the whole storyline in FF7 was ass-numbingly confusing.

    FF8: The fact that all of a sudden GF's make you forget things is just annoying. The characters don't even think anything's wrong with them even though they are complete amnesia-cases!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Acula View Post
    FF2: No levels, and more bad character development. In my opinion, the WORST ff ever! (No, I haven't played X-2 yet)
    Count yourself lucky, the game is so bad it ruined the job class system. The same system most fans feel is the best system in the series and is almost flawless. Yet somehow it found a way to make it bad.

    I also agree that the entire idea of FFX-2 destroys the few redeeming qualities of FFX, like the fact it ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Acula View Post
    FF7: Cloud's past. "I lived in Nibelheim and it burned down but no-one remembers anything! But wait, no, it can't be true, because Hojo created me after Sephy died! But, wait, I KILLED Sephy! Whaddya know, I really DID grow up in Nibelheim, but everything else I made up about my life!" I like Cloud, but the whole storyline in FF7 was ass-numbingly confusing.
    Yes, and I'm STILL having trouble with that. Bah. Besides that, the storyline is kind of disconcerting. (Sorry, but it's true!)


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