You know what doesn't really grind my gears?

[NeoCracker]

Christmas. (Not the poster)

Why? Well, I'll give you a few reasons.

1) Right now, Christmas is a National Holiday. WTF? From my understanding, there is suppose to be a seperation between church and state. So why the hell is a Christian Holiday a national holiday? This is like spitting at all the people who have tried to keep a freedom of religion in this country. All this does is shove this religion down other peoples throats.

2) The obligation people feel to give people something on this holiday. Why does this piss me off? Because of the hypocricy. They say you should give somebody a gift from the heart. If thats the case, why the hell do you need a specific day to do this? What makes this day so special that you need to give people something? And having to do it on that day, doesn't it kill the thought? It seems much more thoughtful to give a person a gift because you want to and you want to make them happy, not because its a damn holiday.

3) The commercialism. So many people capitalize on other peoples need to give gifts that day. Mind you, it's not the companies that I'm pissed at, they are simply a business trying to make money. They probably don't give a rats ass it's Christmas. It's the stupid people that go for that crap. They get so caught up in the commercialism, they forget that they should be doing things from the heart, not the wallet.

4) School being out. True, this could be part of the national holiday part, but I think it deserves its own number. People who don't celebrate Christmas are missing out on their education, even if it is for only a couple days. Someone will say, "Oh, but thats not fair for us Christians who Celebrate Christmas."

To you I say, what about the Jews who celebrate Hanaka, or the people that Celebrate Quanzica, or any other of those oddly named holidays. If they miss out on those days, they are still expected to make up what they missed. Yet you good Christians seem to think you are exempt from that and shouldn't have to miss anything. If they can miss out on a day or two for their holidays because they are that important to them, so can you you greedy bastards.

Thank you for reading.

PS: I also hate bright Sunshine.

[Madame Adequate]

1) Concerts.

Okay, let me get this straight, because it's a bit beyond my comprehension. You are willing to pay a premium to stand around and listen to a less-than-CD-quality rendition of something? With acoustics that are only any good if the artist is, in fact, lip synching, because otherwise it will either be ear-bleedingly loud and you won't make it out properly? And, here's the best bit - you will stand around in the middle of a huge crowd of people in order to do this?

2) Anti-commercialism/consumerism/corporatism

Yeah, actually, the reason that Microsoft is huge is because they do what they do better than the alternatives. Not true? Then the alternatives need to market themselves better. McDonald's and EA are also not evil and people need to get off their high horses every time a company becomes powerful, because aside from anything else the general whining about it makes the whole movement seem daft, which makes it difficult to investigate genuine problems.

3) The concept of nationality.

No, no, no. You do realize that nationalism is in itself at least as bad as racism and sexism, right? Only, at least in those cases there is some vaguely conceivable reasoning behind them? Here is a hint the geographic co-ordinates you happen to be born within do not have any inherent bearing on who you are. The fact that you might grow up in a different culture is hypocritical; A financier in London is going to have more in common with financiers in other major cities in other countries than with some fisherman at the arse end of Shetland. One world government is the only ethical, rational, and secure way forward.

4) Fear.

Some fear is sensible. It's smart to fear being blown up by nuclear bombs. It's smart to fear someone pointing a gun at you. It is not smart to fear ephemeral concepts of 'the other'. If I had one wish, I'd be tempted to wish for the feeling of fear to be utterly eliminated from the universe.

[41-Inches-Wide]

The very stuff that pains me with so much loathing is the fact that you cant get everything you want. Especially money, because having none at all simply kicks you in the head; having no money to buys stuff VITAL for you, or stuff that's everything you've wished for because you can't hand anything more than $3.

Take for example the fact that I want to study the observable universe.
And tonight it is very VITAL for the fulfillment of my soul and my mind to see JUPITER and confirm the sixteen known moons around it, and see. Well I want to buy a telescope, the Hubble Telescope, which grinds my gears because ITS NOT FOR SALE and even if it is i would've sold my every particle in my body, and soul and still not get it. ;___; BOOOOO

[Lawr]

To you I say, what about the Jews who celebrate Hanaka, or the people that Celebrate Quanzica, or any other of those oddly named holidays. If they miss out on those days, they are still expected to make up what they missed. Yet you good Christians seem to think you are exempt from that and shouldn't have to miss anything. If they can miss out on a day or two for their holidays because they are that important to them, so can you you greedy bastards.

My school goes on Christmas break on the first day of Hanaka and it's a big enough gap to cover Kwanzaa, Christmas, and the New Year. And it's not really the Christians' fault someone wanted to make up a random holiday and tried to associate it with Christ.

[NeoCracker]

To you I say, what about the Jews who celebrate Hanaka, or the people that Celebrate Quanzica, or any other of those oddly named holidays. If they miss out on those days, they are still expected to make up what they missed. Yet you good Christians seem to think you are exempt from that and shouldn't have to miss anything. If they can miss out on a day or two for their holidays because they are that important to them, so can you you greedy bastards.

My school goes on Christmas break on the first day of Hanaka and it's a big enough gap to cover Kwanzaa, Christmas, and the New Year. And it's not really the Christians' fault someone wanted to make up a random holiday and tried to associate it with Christ.

That is the only school I have ever heard of to do that.
It's better, but I still don't like it.

And I don't care if its not Chrismtas's Fault, I'm going to blame it anyway.

[Roto13]

1) Right now, Christmas is a National Holiday.

Alright.

2) The obligation people feel to give people something on this holiday.

What obligation?

3) The commercialism.

You're just doing it wrong. Christmas at my house is a family thing, not a commercial thing.

4) School being out.

People need a break half way through the school year or they'll explode.

3) The concept of nationality.

No, no, no. You do realize that nationalism is in itself at least as bad as racism and sexism, right? Only, at least in those cases there is some vaguely conceivable reasoning behind them? Here is a hint the geographic co-ordinates you happen to be born within do not have any inherent bearing on who you are. The fact that you might grow up in a different culture is hypocritical; A financier in London is going to have more in common with financiers in other major cities in other countries than with some fisherman at the arse end of Shetland. One world government is the only ethical, rational, and secure way forward.

It's pretty naive to say that someone's country (which is not only a big part of their environment, but is actually the environment that influences the environment) doesn't have any influence on kind of person they grow up to be. My fingers hurt.

[NeoCracker]

1) Right now, Christmas is a National Holiday.

Alright.

2) The obligation people feel to give people something on this holiday.

What obligation?

3) The commercialism.

You're just doing it wrong. Christmas at my house is a family thing, not a commercial thing.

4) School being out.

People need a break half way through the school year or they'll explode.

3) The concept of nationality.

No, no, no. You do realize that nationalism is in itself at least as bad as racism and sexism, right? Only, at least in those cases there is some vaguely conceivable reasoning behind them? Here is a hint the geographic co-ordinates you happen to be born within do not have any inherent bearing on who you are. The fact that you might grow up in a different culture is hypocritical; A financier in London is going to have more in common with financiers in other major cities in other countries than with some fisherman at the arse end of Shetland. One world government is the only ethical, rational, and secure way forward.

It's pretty naive to say that someone's country (which is not only a big part of their environment, but is actually the environment that influences the environment) doesn't have any influence on kind of person they grow up to be. My fingers hurt.

1) Okay, we agree here.

2) Perhaps you feel no obligation, but there are many people who do.

3) First, the Commercial Idea tied more in with the Obligation Idea. And good for you though.

4) True, they could use a break in the school year. Really its more the reason they use for the break. Though I realize it really didn't seem like that in my post, I tend to not get the point across I want when I rant. My apologies.

[Goldenboko]

You know what really grinds my gears?
A debate which kills a thread. Seriously. I'm not kidding. GTFO.

[Lawr]

This so called 'debate' is making it better IMO.

[NeoCracker]

You know what else grinds my gears? People trying to stop debates, given how debates can make the brain work, and increase ones current knowledge, in addition to possibly giving people different view points, thus expanding ones understanding as well.

[Madame Adequate]

It's pretty naive to say that someone's country (which is not only a big part of their environment, but is actually the environment that influences the environment) doesn't have any influence on kind of person they grow up to be. My fingers hurt.

I didn't say it has no influence. But there are other, far bigger influences, for one - and the influence is manufactured, for another. I do not think the division, segregation, and subsequent inevitable oppression of Humanity is a price worth paying to retain some nebulous idea of culture, which usually only serves as a shield of legitimacy for bigotry and xenophobia to hide behind.

[Yamaneko]

You're only saying that because you live in one of them loser countries.

[Madame Adequate]

You're only saying that because you live in one of them loser countries.

Actually most would contend that Britain would be overrun if it opened its doors.

[Del Murder]

I get extremely annoyed when people try to do things that are well beyond the limits of their own talents.

[Roto13]

You're only saying that because you live in one of them loser countries.

Actually most would contend that Britain would be overrun if it opened its doors. :monster:

He's talking about MILFland.

Burn.