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    I hope Twighlight Town and the Twiglight Town gang feature in the next game, though its doesnt seem very likely as they only really had ties to Roxas and unless he appears theres no real reason to bring them back. Never the less I loved those guys.
    (Speaking of which I hope Roxas is in the game somehow too)
    Kefka's coming, look intimidating!
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    Its sad how despite only being in the game for a short time, Roxas established himself as a stronger and more enduring character than Sora. At least to me. I still become sad when I finally get control of Sora in KH2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Its sad how despite only being in the game for a short time, Roxas established himself as a stronger and more enduring character than Sora. At least to me. I still become sad when I finally get control of Sora in KH2
    Hey, he had a good summer eating ice cream and doing... beach things.

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    He never even got to go to the beach!!! Poor guy...

    Instead his last week of summer vacation was filled with bizarre mind games that would do Fei Fong Wong proud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    I still become sad when I finally get control of Sora in KH2
    *sigh* Same here. Until I realized that his "tutorial" world was boring as hell. But he did establish himself more as a character, which is what I really liked about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depression Moon View Post
    bit more puzzles. Influence you to use your summons. Bring it with poison, blindness, silence, sleep, and confuse.

    game's AI. Donald, Goofy, and Riku stupid.
    Good points. Yes to puzzles. No to epic Coliseum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noctiluca View Post
    hero customizable. bring back the attack abilities
    Personally, I always like games where you can purposely change your character's appearance. But if they just added more costume-changing worlds, I'd be happy with that. Sora's Final Form and Halloween Town Final Form (he's wearing a crown!) rock! Maybe have some more world-specific abilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Exploration means you can go anywhere and do everything. more teamwork between enemy units. I would love to see the Neo-Shadows be far more aggressive and mean.

    I would also like better use of the form commands. They are a neat idea. They are way overpowered.

    Better writing... First, kick Nojima off the project because he killed KH2, bring back Daisuke. Next, ditch the leaving of "loose ends to keep the fans speculating." BAD NOMURA!!!
    Large worlds for exploration? Yes. I don't know about writing... somehow the stories seemed the same to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Depression Moon View Post
    background of Orginization XIII, who Axel really is. drive forms. Perhaps to fix that they could just make the bosses harder or the forms slightly weaker. I also want Maleficent back and to actually fight epic like against Ultimecia.
    Yeah, damn it! Who the hell is Axel? He's like the good, the bad, and the pretty boy. I know why they killed him though. He was an experiment by Nomura who wanted a Reno in KH and let's face it, they can't have that character in both games unless it's really Reno (or if Reno dies in FF7... ain't happening).

    Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
    I think the story in the disney worlds could be alot better .
    option to take out party members.
    there were too many invisible boundaries in KH2 and all the treasures were easily accesible and there wasnt the same satisfaction.
    And more FF characters from pre-VII generation
    The Disney Worlds seemed to focus near-entirely on love and lost friends. It was an ever-constant reminder that Donald and Goofy were searching for Mickey and that Sora was searching for Kairi and Riku. Now we just need a game where Kairi, Riku, and Mickey go looking for the other three and the circle will be complete.
    Maybe the world-specific character should follow you around as a fourth (FF12... and KH Riku) instead of replacing a character. World-specific characters could also provide different Drive Forms.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall banana View Post
    KHIII should have a less convoluted story than KHII.
    This is a stretch, but I think that the look and gameplay of Odin Sphere would suit a Kingdom Hearts game.
    I haven't played Odin Sphere... but I've seen pictures... no.
    I am also in accord that Maleficent's return meant precisely balls.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
    I hope Twilight Town and the gang feature in the next game, though its doesnt seem very likely as they only really had ties to Roxas and unless he appears theres no real reason to bring them back. (Speaking of which I hope Roxas is in the game somehow too)
    Point 1: The REAL Twilight Town gang has no idea who the hell this Roxas guy is. They're SORA's friends. They could be brought back for the same reason as Destiny Islands.
    Point 2: Roxas is in 352/Days (pronounced Three-Hundred Fifty-Two Days Over Two, but I say Three-Hundred Fifty-Two Half Days), and Ven (who is the original Roxas) is playable character in Birth By Sleep.
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    "No" to beautiful 2D graphics? =O

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    2d-graphics that would be a step down for the series. 3-D looks a lot more prettier.

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    No way! 3D isn't better looking just because it's 3D.







    Definitely superior.

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    Definitely superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Point 2: Roxas is in 352/Days (pronounced Three-Hundred Fifty-Two Days Over Two, but I say Three-Hundred Fifty-Two Half Days)
    Actually, it's pronounced 'Three-Five-Eight-Over-Two Days.'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    and Ven (who is the original Roxas)

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    i want to see decent keyblades, in KH1 every time you got a new blade it was stronger then the last, but in KHII every time i got a new one i was like "what the hell is this ****"
    i anly used kingdom key, hiddon dragon, sleeping lion, gulwing, and the guardion, i would have used ultima weapon but its to hard to come by materials in KHII. you have to use the ones you need just to have to go out and re-obtain them.

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    Sora, Kairi, and Riku as main chars so I don't have to see Donald and Goofy(Mayber even a 5 person party like in 4, or you can choose 3 between the 5), also having these 3 would make it easier to gear your people(SPOILER)seeings how they all use keyblades now. Also, more magic and status effects would be nice. And strictly FF worlds would be amazing. A FF7 world, an 8 world, a 9 world(With more epic 9 quality music), and a 10 world. A FF12 world would not be very good to do though, not yet at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke View Post
    I hope Twilight Town and the gang feature in the next game, though its doesnt seem very likely as they only really had ties to Roxas and unless he appears theres no real reason to bring them back. (Speaking of which I hope Roxas is in the game somehow too)
    Point 1: The REAL Twilight Town gang has no idea who the hell this Roxas guy is. They're SORA's friends. They could be brought back for the same reason as Destiny Islands.
    I refuse to believe this, if it's true then why did they feel the need to see Sora off at the station?
    Their hearts are connected and nothing anyone says will make me see reason!
    Kefka's coming, look intimidating!
    Have a nice day!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Exploration means you can go anywhere and do everything. Platforming is mindlessly jumping and climbing to advance the game cause there is nothing else. I hated most of the KH1 worlds cause they were claustrophobic and needlessly platform heavy. The camera made the whole experience more frustrating... I'd rather see large worlds with lots of places to explore than cramped areas that involve jumping from platform to platform...
    I want more teamwork between enemy units. I would love to see the Neo-Shadows be far more aggressive and mean.

    I would also like better use of the form commands. They are a neat idea but I feel they need to be retouched. They are way overpowered.

    Better writing... First, kick Nojima off the project because he killed KH2, bring back Daisuke. Next, ditch the leaving of "loose ends to keep the fans specualting." BAD NOMURA!!!
    KH2 was practically a half written game. You spend two games introducing a new set of villains then axe them all off with little back story into who they were and you completely waste the potential of several characters just so you can hype another spin-off game that should explain stuff that should have been in the actual sequel?
    Large worlds for exploration? Yes. I don't know about writing... somehow the stories seemed the same to me.
    I felt Daisuke was better about holding onto themes in the story. He helped write KH1 but in CoM, I felt he did a wonderful job sticking to the theme of memories and for me, I feel CoM easily has some of the most touching and most intelligent writing in the series. It was oddly enough the darkest game in the series as we watched Sora slowly lose his memories and fall prey to Namine's powers. Even Riku's story wasn't too shabby when you learn to not laugh at the whole "darkness in my heart" spiel.

    KHII starts off promising, I give Nojima credit that the prologue with Roxas continues the momentum from CoM but as soon as Sora hits the stage it falls apart. I felt his search for Riku was pretty half-hearted for most of the game. Axel and Kairi have really little reason to be in the plot and half the time I felt they were written into scenes cause Nojima remembered he had those characters.

    Organization XIII had great potential as characters but instead get relegated to chatty villains with themes. Its like they became Mega Man bosses. They lack the overall chemistry of the ones we met in CoM. We were treated to an Organization with a dangerous goal that was hounded by in-fighting. Every member seemed to have their own reason for being there. The ones we meet in KH2... Not so much, just Lackey 1 and Lackey 2, oh and don't forget Lackey 3 he's my favorite cause he had a cool design and two lines instead of one! Even their back stories were squandered. We know about half the group through the Secret Ansem reports only. Beyond that, only Roxas and Xemnas got love.

    There is Maleficent coming back and basically doing nothing in the game, Pete came off as more of an interesting villain than she did. I also felt the whole Ansem isn't Ansem but rather his apprentice was kind of a cop out plot twist. Perhaps Birth By Sleep may rectify this but the whole thing still seemed silly and plain stupid to me. It might make sense later but it still doesn't change my personal feeling that it was presented rather terribly in KH2. Even the "killing of Goofy" was more of a "wtf?!" moment than an actual surprise or shocking scene; especially how it plays out. I just felt that Nojima spent most of his time trying to shock and surprise the player and not about establishing characters or emotion. He hopes for the moment to bring emotions rather than build on the characters and trust the player to emphasize with them. He does this in most of the games he writes for.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    The Organization intrigued me but its because I really loved the philosophical ramifications of the concept known as Nobodies.
    Interesting point of view.
    I find the concept of people who are not suppose to exist and don't exist yet do to be fascinating. The secret ending and CoM promised me some good fun philosophical fun but KH2 took the kiddy route and chose to relegate it as an excuse for them being bad guys. The whole scenario regarding the Nobodies, even their designs seem to speak of deeper things but the game never really goes into it like I wanted them to. A few cryptic lines and Xemnas ranting didn't satisfy me cause I feel its something that could be explored. I was so miffed they chose to write them out of the story rather than just establish them as a another force in the series. I was even more angry by the idea they may have not explored them so they could make a spin-off title...


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    Definitely superior.
    I love how your proof of 3D being better is from a Pre-rendered CGI cutscene (just a movie not in-game) scene from X-2 which hardly reflects what the actual 3-D looked like in the game and Pre-rendered CGI picture from KH2 that never really happens and once again, doesn't reflect the actual 3D style of the in-game graphics...

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