I'm talking about players who overlooked the hardcoreity of VIII (even from other fans by any means of communication.) They are not going to notice Griever instantly. Goldenboko, it's obvious that you know what Griever was because that word has been mentioned on this forum quite a lot of time. Actually, it really depends because there are different types to define “VIII fans”.

When I bought VIII and played it till the end, I did not know much about Griever because it wasn't exactly big. This has happened to some of my friends too. But when I've started using the Internet for the first time, I've learnt more information about Griever.

It's quite ironic. Dissidia has mentioned something what R=U fans were eager to find out, such as Rinoa weapons' on Ultimecia, some of her dialogues (e.g. "Shall we dance?" and "I'll be waiting until the time comes".) and of course Griever. How wondeful of Square-Enix to add a nice Griever symbol on Squall's belt.

Since Griever is a part of the R=U theory, it's obvious that the fans would recognise Griever much deeper than the other types of fans.