ENDLESS SPACE is getting its own thread now

[Madame Adequate]

Stacking - well you're in space so it's not like there's a limit on room What you do is shove ships into fleets (which can grow larger when you get the right techs) and then the fleets can stack infinitely, but a fleet can only launch one or two attacks per turn (though can defend any number of times).

Diplomacy is the game's weakest aspect IMO, which is sad because some of the race ideas are smurfing golden. If there was ever a game that would benefit from a GalCiv2-style diplomacy this is it, but sadly everything is very impersonal and superficial.

(this game is infinitely better than Civ 5 but then unless you plan on getting SotS2 then upon buying any 4X you will probably have a better game than Civ 5)

OOOHhh...how sad that Diplomacy is the weakest part of the game. It is my least favorite aspect of Civ5 as it seems all geared towards screwing you over. *Enter Golden Age* *Moron asks for 75% of gold that you will not be able to pay for 30 turns* *Decline* *Moron holds a grudge for eternity*

Well with ES it's not really that it's stupid (It's not a genius either but), the diplomacy tends to make sense and it explicitly tells you things like "You're growing really stupidly powerful and people are getting scared" and stuff like that, it's just that it's all impersonal and interchangeable. With the sole exception of the Cravers (because their only diplomacy options are War and Cold War) every race is essentially the same to deal with in diplomacy terms, and it's not that it's bad so much as it's a crying shame because some of the race ideas are so damned good.

I can understand not liking unit stacking especially in civs where doomstacks can reign supreme, but the 1UPT system of Civ 5 just doesn't work in my eyes because the game isn't big enough and you end up with the entire world carpeted in units. Not to mention the 1UPT decision influenced everything else in design terms and this has made it a game I just don't like or enjoy one bit