Would I Lie To You? Game 1 SUDDEN DEATH!

[Formalhaut]

The one thing I don't get is that statement was:

I have asked a friend to call me during a date so I'd have an excuse to leave. It backfired

Now, I'm not one to criticise anyone's grammar, but the scenario was clearly in the Past tense. Yet the "I have asked" section is clearly present tense. There's definitely a clash here between the timelines (Starting to sound like XIII-2 here)

Now, every other statement which was a Bley's patented lie was in the correct tense for the statement. This one however, is not. Given that the story was before Rantz was even on EoFF which is quite an eternity, why then would it be in present?

I'm not saying that it's a truth, YET. Bleys could have mixed it up by deliberately confusing tenses to throw us, however I do doubt Bleys would be so conniving that only on our last go, would he do this trick.

On the other hand, Rantz could have made a slight error in his statement that was accidental. But at the end of the day, Bleys, for me, wouldn't have confused tenses together. Even if this was a Bleys lie, and and Bleys fully intended for it to be "I have asked", Rantz is with Shorty now in the present tense. I don't think Bleys would make it that strikingly obvious.

Thoughts Team?

[Mercen-X]

Calling all Quins.

[Quindiana Jones]

"I have asked" is fine, grammar-wise. The present perfect can be used to refer to an unspecified time before now, so it suits the sentence fine. Trust me, I'm an english teacher.

Based on Rantz's answers, my gut tells me its a lie. Plus, while "I have asked" is fine, it does seem a little more Bleysian in nature.

##VOTE: LIE, but for the love of god, please bear in mind that I have a 0% win rate in this game. xD

[Formalhaut]

Oh! Fair enough. I guess it is fine, but now the question is would Rantz really write "like" that though? My natural instinct, being English, is to just write "I had asked a friend". While now I know "I have" is fine, it's a really roundabout alternative way of saying it. I'm torn now, I really thought I could capitalise on this, but now I'm not so sure.

I'll have to think about it, yet again were split. I'll return later tonight and finalise things. Summary time!

Mercen-X: ##VOTE: TRUTH

Quinter Wonderland: ##VOTE: LIE

[Quindiana Jones]

Point of interest: "I had asked" would be incorrect in the statement.

[Mercen-X]

"I asked a friend"

##VOTE: LIE, but for the love of god, please bear in mind that I have a 0% win rate in this game. xD

Ye're quite helpful, are you not then, dearie?

[Quindiana Jones]

Hm. In this context, an American would use past simple (I asked) in place of present perfect (I have asked) with no qualms - as would a foreigner who learned english from an American - whereas the present perfect, in British English, is the only acceptable tense in that sentence.

I've no bloody clue where Bleys is from, to be honest. I'm pretty sure he's English, so I'm pretty sure this is a lie. Foreign speakers are more likely to use American grammar, due to the prevalence of American teachers and books. This is fun. Someone look up posts from both of them and find out how they spell "colour".

[Citizen Bleys]

I've no bloody clue where Bleys is from, to be honest. I'm pretty sure he's English

[Quindiana Jones]

I swear I remember you telling someone off for not using "u"s.

[Formalhaut]

I think Bleys is Canadian, if SoL's visitor messages are anything to go by. I could be wrong though, because for some reason Bleys decided not to visitor message back, instead using a PM or something.

I find this one difficult, but then that's becoming a recurring theme with me. On one hand, I can sort of see how Rantz can be that inept at dating in his youth that he would do something like that, but then again I like to think Rantz has morals and ethics, and wouldn't just ditch a girl by an "emergency". Then again, I could be giving him too much credit

Also, while Quinter has provided great English knowledge that matches my brother out in Japan. However, based on the above point about Bleys being Canadian, I think, his point could be ineffective here. It's definitely tricky, and I am most likely wrong as I often am, but I am going say:

Mercen - X: ##VOTE: TRUTH
Quinter Wonderland: ##VOTE: LIE

Formalhaut: ##VOTE: TRUTH

I am most likely wrong on this, and if I am, I am very willing to perform seppuku.

[Quindiana Jones]

I'm fine with going true.

[Formalhaut]

Now watch as I unsheathe my blade...

[Mercen-X]

Ever the pessimist.

I find this one difficult, but then that's becoming a recurring theme with me. Then again, I could be giving him too much credit.

I am most likely wrong as I often am, but I am going say: ##VOTE: TRUTH
I am most likely wrong on this, and if I am, I am very willing to perform seppuku.

Seppuku not necessary. Just stick with septiku.

[Citizen Bleys]

Rantz's ungentlemanly gambit is...

A LIE

Now, I'm not one to criticise anyone's grammar, but the scenario was clearly in the Past tense. Yet the "I have asked" section is clearly present tense. There's definitely a clash here between the timelines (Starting to sound like XIII-2 here)

I had such a hard time not responding to this. I refute it thus:

"I have been, and always shall be your friend." ~ Spock, The Wrath of Khan

So after 5 rounds we have a tie game, which means we're going into sudden death, and I'm going to need some consensus here.

The original plan was to select a hotseat player completely at random, with the game deciding point going to the defending team if the attacking team got it wrong, but since Quin's replaced in late in the game and hasn't had a turn in the hotseat, I think it might be appropriate to just put him in the hotseat by default.

What's it going to be, random choice, or Quin?

If I get any sort of consensus from the 6 of you, I'll follow it. If 3 of you say random and 3 of you say Quin, the tie-breaking decision will go to the first non-Quin person to make predictions in the audience thread that I see online at the time.

[Jinx]

I knew this was a lie. xD