When it comes to stories, once I like someone i'm in it for the long haul. And nothing they do will make me stop liking them.
Jaime Lannister fan for life.
When it comes to stories, once I like someone i'm in it for the long haul. And nothing they do will make me stop liking them.
Jaime Lannister fan for life.
Love Dany.
Love Pod.
Love Tyrion.
Love Arya.
Hound WTF.
Ygritte WTF.
JAIME WTF.
See this guy knows what's up.Originally Posted by Psychotic
Pod is not detestable
Wow, I'm whole-heartedly agreeing with Paul and Hux, what is my life coming to?See this guy knows what's up.Pod is not detestable
So, Tommen is already a better king that Joffrey. Go figure.
The Cersei/Jaime scene was very uncomfortable. I don't remember it being rape in the books, but you guys all say it was. And yeah, no, if the director didn't intend for it to be rape, the line deliverance and blocking should've been done differently. (S)he keeps talking about all of the thought that went into the blocking, but I don't agree.
Okay okay okay. Dare I say it? I'm really starting to root for Dany. I still wouldn't say that Emilia Clarke is great, but she's getting better. I don't know if whoever directed that scene was able to pull something out of her that hasn't been pulled out before, but this is hands down the best she's ever been. Also, new Daario is much better than old Daario. Poor horsey, though.
And all of Sandor and Arya shenanigans are a very wonderful addition from the book. Love it.
Stannis is still boring the trout out of me.
Noctis Caelum, two things:
First, if you think that rape is completely about sex and lust, I really suggest you read up on it and educate yourself. Regardless of whether or not Gilly is attractive (and I think Hannah Murray is beautiful, although admittedly her makeup is meant to make her look rough), out of that many men--many of who are rapists--she would be in danger. Rape is a struggle and an exercise in gaining power over another person. Regardless of whether or not sexual gratification is had from that, sexual desire isn't the same as it is with consensual sex. You shouldn't mix up the two. And also, victims of abuse and rape often deal with more than just one abuse situation in their lives. I find your comment very offensive, or at the least very ignorant of what rape really is.
Secondly, I really don't think you understand what Dany is doing with the slaves at all. Besides just doing the RIGHT thing--really, she's kind of the only person who's acting in a way that isn't completely selfish--when she DOES finally go to Westeros, she's going to have a ton of people who are loyal to her and who are willing to fight for her. Even if they aren't a trained army, she's going to have an insane amount of supporters, and that in turn will make it harder for those who would fight her to fight.
I thought the Jaime/Cersei scene was consensual in the books, too, so the show's version threw me off. Cersei kept saying no to his advances--not playfully, not with some sex vocal inflection (idk how to words)--so I assumed it was a rape. Like Jinx said, I think that, if the director didn't mean for it to come off as a rape, the blocking and line deliverance should have been done differently.
BTW, GRRM responded to fans about it.
Anyway, other show bits to comment on:
+ The Pod/Tyrion scene gave me feelings.
+ The Hound and Arya have a pretty cool dynamic.
+ I wish Oberyn and Ellaria were both in my bed. :<
+ The arrow suddenly making its appearance in that little potato/family scene gave me a chuckle.
+ I like Davos a lot more than Stannis.
+ Dany is not my favorite character (but she's somewhere in the middle for me), but that last scene was cool. Her army was a lot bigger than I thought.
+ Daario's part was cool.
Hahaha what even is this. You could have given Viserys command of every armed man, woman, and child from Lonely Light to Asshai and he couldn't have conquered the village the Wildlings overran in this episode. Khal Drogo didn't deny him the army because he didn't want to uphold his agreement, he denied him because he knew Viserys was an utterly incompetent megalomaniac that would have got most of his men killed.Dany was surprisingly bearable, but that is the show trying to make her more interesting than book Dany. I still feel like she's completely wasting her time taking over the free cities and gathering slaves. She needs warriors, not slaves and eunuchs. Say what you will about Viserys being a pompous fool, but if he had three dragons and the army he clamored for, he would have gotten trout DONE. Or he would have died trying. But I guarantee you it would be more interesting than watching Dany slowly digest herself into a power contender. Right now she's just a fool. I hate the stupid little swagger she had on her horse. I hate how she thinks that she's "the mother of dragons" when she can't even tame any of them. She's a bigger pretender than Renly was when he hosted that ridiculous tourny in Season 2, after he declared himself King. People just think she's worth a damn because of the manpower that she has behind her. And her digital pets, naturally. Take them away, and she's what she was when Viserys was still alive. Frail, weak, uncertain, awkward.
She only got stronger as a leader when she got married to Drogo. And then she killed him. And got their baby killed. That's her history right there. Nothing but failure.
People hate Viserys because he was ato Dany, but I loved him because he saw the big picture. He knew dinning with the Dothraki was a waste of smurfing time, and it IS. He would take those dragons and conquer Westeros like Aegon the Conqueror once did. Dany, meanwhile, is content to taking her sweet time and running these Slave cities and being their mothers. I guess not everyone is built from the same cloth as Rhaegar the Dragon Prince.
Dany has come to understand the importance of patience and of building up a solid base before acting. If she ran off to Westeros all half-cocked now half her men would be dead of disease before she arrived and any decent band of archers or crossbowmen could destroy her dragons. They're growing larger and more powerful but they are still whelps. She's conquering Slaver's Bay because she's found something to actually believe in beyond her own aspirations of power, and that's exactly why she's so effective and powerful. She has command of thousands and respect of even more, and she can put the resources of several entire cities to work now.
Remember what Tywin was saying about wisdom? Dany's developed a lot and is developing more, and it shows.
When the time comes for her to assault Westeros and take her rightful place on the throne (Hopefully married to Pod and with Arya as Hand) she's going to be able to do so from a position of power, not weakness. Waiting too long would be a problem, yes, but that point has far from arrived.
Joffrey didn't really set the bar all that high.
That said, having spoiled myself on some book details I'm looking forward to how the TV show develops Tommen from this point onward.
Edit: Dany played a lot of RTS games.
Apparently, I have been declared banished.
i somehow just cant get used to the new Daario.
i dont know why. its not that i hate him or something like that, but for some season he just doesnt fit in for me :l
The worst part about recasting Tommen to be so much older?
NO KITTENS
...what?The worst part about recasting Tommen to be so much older?
NO KITTENS
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Did... did Tyrion tell Pod to take that knighthood? What a bro. This sink's sinking buddy, might as well move on up. And he says Tywin knows how to make use of family tragedies.
Cannot believe anybody thinks Tyrion poisoned Joffrey though. Give the man some credit. He would be halfway to Essos by the time Joffrey died if he wanted it done.
I enjoyed the episode, except the Jaime/Cersei scene. I really didn't think they would do that scene in the show, given Jaime has been back for a while, whereas in the books, this is the first time he sees Cersei upon arriving back in KL. Totally smurfed up regardless, but I certainly didn't see this as rape in the book.
Part of this scene in the book - NSFW"“Hurry,” she was whispering now, “quickly, quickly, now, do it now, do me now. Jaime Jaime Jaime.” Her hands helped guide him. “Yes,” Cersei said as he thrust, “my brother, sweet brother, yes, like that, yes, I have you, you’re home now, you’re home now, you’re home.” She kissed his ear and stroked his short bristly hair. Jaime lost himself in her flesh. He could feel Cersei’s heart beating in time with his own, and the wetness of blood and seed where they were joined."
I was disappointed with this scene. This is the same Jaime who saved Brienne from being raped. Book stuffAnd the same Jaime who had some of his own men killed for raping women.
It does, however, serve as a good reminder that Jaime can be a monster. After all, he did push a child from a window.
I love Pod. I still like Dany. Unlike others, I've never particularly disliked her. I think Oberyn is great.
Oberyn is awesome! I didn't care for him in the books, but he's great in the show! Can we all agree he and Ellaria are the sexiest couple on this show? Yes, I thought we all could.
Yeah I love Oberyn and Ellaria, they're totally awesome.
Dorne can turn out some seriously ice cold burn deliverers I guess!
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