if you take advice on what ladies prefer based on WWF and WWE, I feel sorry for you.
No, that was just an example. I've been told my entire life that women don't like nudie dudies. Perhaps I have been misled, I dunno. I've also grown up in a house where my Mum would regularly draw female nudes because she felt the female body was beautiful, but rarely draw dudes the same way. This was a common theme throughout my life, especially in the art arena and through discussions online and in person.

What I can say I have learned today is that sexualisation isn't to you guys what it is/was to me. Sexualisation to me was making a character as sexy as possible (generally directed at, but not limited to, heterosexual members of the opposite gender) for no other reason than to make them as sexy as possible. For yourselves, it seems to be accentuating what are culturally defined as sexual organs - ie, breasts, bums and genitals.

It just so happens that for women, what I thought was sexualising generally ends up being exactly the same as what you guys refer to as sexualising. Not so much for men.

Essentially, things done to girls to make them appear as physically attractive to guys as possible involve sexualising the girl, because that is what, on a very raw level (like it or not) guys tend to find make a woman appear at her sexiest. I am pretty sure I'm not being sexist when I say this, but rather referring to biological and scientifically proven fact without the need to cite anything. If you really want me to, just ask, I'm sure I can find something.

However, the things done to guys to make them appear as physically attractive to girls as possible do not involve stripping him to his tighty whities, because, well, women have been shown to not subscribe to that kind of thing. See the stuff mentioned earlier, the quote from the book for citation.

So I'll concede that, based on a differing viewpoint of what sexualisation actually is, I've misunderstood what you girls were complaining about, but at the same time I will suddenly say "But hold on, how many girls are actually sexualised in that kind of way?" We don't know about Cidney's personality, but it's safe to assume she's not going to be there purely to stand there bending over in provocative positions. If you focus on clothing (which you guys have said you aren't, but I'm just putting this in for my own train of thought, before you all jump on me ), then Kimahri and co could be argued to be sexualised, when we all know that's not the case. That means it's entirely down to the emphasis on boobs. In which case I go back to my opinion of boobs not being such a freakin' big deal in the first place. They may be culturally unacceptable in some countries, but in my opinion a girl is allowed to show off her rack and it's perfectly fine, I don't count it on par with genitalia (and no FF babe has her genitalia defined to my knowledge, certainly no more than that of a guy). Finally, we go to job unsuitability and then we're back at square one again when I say "Guys don't wear job appropriate gear either, this is all being decided by some fashion chain."

It's frustrating to not really get my head around this, honestly I'm trying. Don't think my arguments are because I think you're terrible and wrong or anything, I'm legit trying to understand where you're coming from but the logic in my head doesn't really get it at the moment, and these linked sites are just so generalised that I find myself agreeing because Dead or Alive etc. are blatant sexualisation. But for Final Fantasy, I'm not seeing it the same way. I'm not rejecting your opinions, I'm just saying that I can only say what I think and/or agree with and so far the logic rollin' around in my head isn't piecing things together the same way you girls are. Maybe in time, I dunno, I'm just really confused and a little frustrated and not really seeing the same thing you ladies seem to be seeing, or not interpreting intention and/or results of said intention the same way.

If Cidney starts rubbing her boobs and moaning, or spends her entire time talking about sex, or something like that, then I will hold my hands in the air and say "You guys are right" but she hasn't done that.

...yet.