Will Final Fantasy XV's Cid be a Lady?

[Wolf Kanno]

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[jlewbro]

It is very possible that FF XV's "Cid" will be a woman. In following in the FF character's tradition (as stated) she fits all the categories. I read a lot of comments addressing the sexualization of this character. We're not the designer and we're unsure of the many possibilities of why she is portrayed in this way, but our minds will always tend to go on the offensive side. Our Western culture is vastly different from Eastern culture. If anything, Western culture allows for more sexualization in reality, meaning, how we live and breath, not what is in the movies, video games, etc. Eastern cultures have a much different outlook on things. If we specifically talk about Japan, couples rarely live together before marriage, don't have children without being married and even their law does not recognize father's of children born outside of wedlock. I've also read that mothers are not seen by their husbands as sexually desirable anymore. Once a child is born the mother becomes like a relative so to speak, which may be a reason why most families have one child. Nevertheless, I am not ignoring how offensive this character may be to some, but culturally the game is designed and coming out in a culture that see's things different. The bottomline is this: you have a choice. With a sure-fire M for Mature rating for this game, viewer/playing is advised. If you don't want to play for various ethical/moral reasons, then fine, but also respect those who decide to play regardless.

[Ayen]

This is Claire Redfield in the newest Resident Evil game.



She's fully clothed, and not the least bit sexualized. Want the real kicker? Capcom is a Japanese video game company. The games are made by Japanese developers. So obviously, the Japanese are fully capable of not sexualizing their women characters, but when Square does the opposite it's a "cultural difference" thing or "taking it out of context." No. Cidney is dressed that way as eye-candy to male audiences. No other reason than that.

[Mirage]

Poor woman. Doesn't she get that the zombies will be able to grab onto her clothes more easily than her bare skin?

[Vyk]

Dude @.@ She looks awesome. That alone makes me want to buy the new Resident Evil. Go Capcom. I've given them trout in the past, but outside of Jill Valentine's outfit in the third game, their Resident Evil outfits are mostly tame

[Psychotic]

Dude @.@ She looks awesome. That alone makes me want to buy the new Resident Evil. Go Capcom. I've given them trout in the past, but outside of Jill Valentine's outfit in the third game, their Resident Evil outfits are mostly tame

Her outfit in 5 was worse! The worst bit about it was that she was wearing a catsuit and had a control device on her chest and then keeps the catsuit unzipped even once it's been ripped off.

[Shauna]

Dude @.@ She looks awesome. That alone makes me want to buy the new Resident Evil. Go Capcom. I've given them trout in the past, but outside of Jill Valentine's outfit in the third game, their Resident Evil outfits are mostly tame

Her outfit in 5 was worse!

Oh god Safari Clubbin' Sheva. Oh god Tribal Sheva.

[Vyk]

Yeah, I wasn't really considering the alternative costumes, even for Chris, most were pretty wretched. And about the catsuit, like... at least she was covered. I was comparing it to her wearing a freaking mini-skirt and fighting zombies. At least a catsuit is functional, if a little unnecessary. But yeah, it's certainly not immune to being considered sexualized since she's just one step away from really just being naked and covered in black paint

[jlewbro]

This character fits the role Capcom designed for her. She's in a completely different game. Had she been "auditioning" for FF XV, she would have been told what the director had in mind for what she will wear for that role and the scene she is in. Why does this have to be ONLY about eye-candy for male audiences? You'd have to apply the same principles to all sorts of media, the TV shows, movies, plays, etc. Plus in our Western culture, you can't just apply that to eye candy for males only. Why couldn't that be eye candy for females? I'm not trying to pick an argument, I respect you opinion/views, but there is so much more depth to labeling something because of the role what was designed for a specific character, in a specific game, for a specific reason.

[Fox]

Why does this have to be ONLY about eye-candy for male audiences? You'd have to apply the same principles to all sorts of media, the TV shows, movies, plays, etc. Plus in our Western culture, you can't just apply that to eye candy for males only.

We do. They do a terrible job of proper representation as well.

I'm not sure what your point is regarding the auditioning thing. "Right my dear, you performed great in Resident Evil, but in Final Fantasy you're going to have to be a bit closer to naked so the adolescent boys (and perhaps a percentage of women as well) can get their titillation. Why, you ask? Oh, don't worry about that. It's my creative license and therefore immune from criticism."

[Ayen]

This character fits the role Capcom designed for her. She's in a completely different game. Had she been "auditioning" for FF XV, she would have been told what the director had in mind for what she will wear for that role and the scene she is in. Why does this have to be ONLY about eye-candy for male audiences? You'd have to apply the same principles to all sorts of media, the TV shows, movies, plays, etc. Plus in our Western culture, you can't just apply that to eye candy for males only. Why couldn't that be eye candy for females? I'm not trying to pick an argument, I respect you opinion/views, but there is so much more depth to labeling something because of the role what was designed for a specific character, in a specific game, for a specific reason.

And the director would have been told to go smurf himself and the woman would have stormed out of the studio.

Explain to me how Cidney's role somehow changes or diminishes from being able to wear pants and not have her tits hanging out for everyone to see? What is the purpose of her outfit as it is now other than the bleeding obvious?

[Vyk]

Yeah... none of those excuses holds up to legitimate critical thinking. The only excuse, and not even a viable excuse, is that its eye candy. And the fact that some women may enjoy it is merely a coincidence. It's eye candy for men. Just like the rest of the entertainment industry. And if we could rant and rave and change their tune, we probably would. But we don't care about make-up or clothes. A lot of us don't even care about television or movies. What we do care about is video games. And if we can make enough noise to FIX our favorite past time, we most certainly will. And are attempting it at least. It's not like its just on this forum. Discussions like this are happening all over the internet, about almost every game that comes out these days. Developers are under a lot of scrutiny to open their eyes and their minds and get over their unconscious sexualization in portrayals of women. Hell, even outside of that, they're under a lot of pressure to make more than just back seat characters in general. Characters that pass the bechdel test are still important, and still kinda rare sometimes

[Pheesh]

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[Shlup]

It is very possible that FF XV's "Cid" will be a woman. In following in the FF character's tradition (as stated) she fits all the categories. I read a lot of comments addressing the sexualization of this character. We're not the designer and we're unsure of the many possibilities of why she is portrayed in this way, but our minds will always tend to go on the offensive side. Our Western culture is vastly different from Eastern culture. If anything, Western culture allows for more sexualization in reality, meaning, how we live and breath, not what is in the movies, video games, etc. Eastern cultures have a much different outlook on things. If we specifically talk about Japan, couples rarely live together before marriage, don't have children without being married and even their law does not recognize father's of children born outside of wedlock. I've also read that mothers are not seen by their husbands as sexually desirable anymore. Once a child is born the mother becomes like a relative so to speak, which may be a reason why most families have one child. Nevertheless, I am not ignoring how offensive this character may be to some, but culturally the game is designed and coming out in a culture that see's things different. The bottomline is this: you have a choice. With a sure-fire M for Mature rating for this game, viewer/playing is advised. If you don't want to play for various ethical/moral reasons, then fine, but also respect those who decide to play regardless.

[Goldenboko]

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