Nintendo Counts Down to Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[Roto13]

I like the new co-op modes. Co-op play never gets enough love outside of shooters any more. :P

[Ultima Shadow]

Bummer news for those of you in the Europe and such. (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164779)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

...I'll order my Wii + Brawl from America instead.

[Markus. D]

I'm loving the new level :D!

[Skyblade]

The Frigate Orpheon is sweet. I wonder if the Parasite Queen is going to be able to attack the players.

[Evastio]

Wow. I guess Nintendo is keeping their pattern of making all Metroid stages difficult ones.

As for the Porky song it's okay but I'd prefer having something more upbeat and fast paced playing in New Pork City.

Hmm... Porky (or Pokey) being in Brawl... I really found him annoying but I guess it would make sense to add him.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

That's a great stage. I'm really glad there are a lot of insane stages in this game.

[Skyblade]

Team Healer. A shiny orb that heals allies, or, if you misjudge, enemies.

[scrumpleberry]

This could get dead annoying if you aren't super skilled. On the other hand, it's a good basic item.

[Skyblade]

I wonder... Can it be reflected?

[Markus. D]

It's so pretty though...

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Kirby Snake amuses me.

[Markus. D]

xD, beat me to it.

I fell off my chair laughing when I saw it.

[Clouded Sky]

Jeez. It's not even 4am, and TWO OF YOU beat me too it.

Snake-Kirby is uber silly.

[Lawr]

Snake absorbed Kirby lol.

[scrumpleberry]

Kirby dress up YAY!

[Roto13]

HE DOES NO HAVE A MULLET! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!! D:!!!!

[Monol]

Best update we've had in awhile.

Way to be kirby! Way to be :cool:

[Skyblade]

So we have Squirtle Kirby, but we still need Ivysaur Kirby, Charizard Kirby, Sonic Kirby, Lucas Kirby, Ike Kirby, and Ice Climbers Kirby.

[Roto13]

There's probably a Zero Suit Samus Kirby.

[Skyblade]

There's probably a Zero Suit Samus Kirby.

That one's already there. It's the Kirby with a ponytail.

[Roto13]

You might want to take a closer look at that picture. xP

[Skyblade]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/kirby/kirby_071220h.jpg

Ok, what Kirby do you think this is?

[Roto13]

Oh snaps. That one didn't load for me. I thought you were talking about this. xD

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/kirby/kirby_071220g.jpg

[Skyblade]

Ah. Yeah, that's definitely Diddy Kong Kirby with a banana.

[Monol]

I wanna see sonic kirby!

Nice to see Dedede's B move revealed...another suction attack eh?

*still cant get over snake kirby* yeah definatly decembers best update so far!

Until tommorow that is :shifty:...muhahaha character update muhahaha! *going through character update denial*

[Skyblade]

I wanna see sonic kirby!

Nice to see Dedede's B move revealed...another suction attack eh?

*still cant get over snake kirby* yeah definatly decembers best update so far!

Until tommorow that is :shifty:...muhahaha character update muhahaha! *going through character update denial*

Character update is the Christmas announcement. :shifty:

[Monol]

I wanna see sonic kirby!

Nice to see Dedede's B move revealed...another suction attack eh?

*still cant get over snake kirby* yeah definatly decembers best update so far!

Until tommorow that is :shifty:...muhahaha character update muhahaha! *going through character update denial*

Character update is the Christmas announcement. :shifty:

Mhhh talk about wishful thinking :shifty: I like it...

[Roto13]

Am I the only one who thinks it looks like Kirby is about to fist Diddy Kong?

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/kirby/kirby_071220k.jpg

[NeoCracker]

Am I the only one who thinks it looks like Kirby is about to fist Diddy Kong?

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/kirby/kirby_071220k.jpg

No. no you are not.

[Lawr]

Some of those look mediocre though, Like Meta Knight Kirby. Ugh

[Skyblade]

Wish more of the video wasn't merely a compilation of their other videos. It had some good sections though, especially the Halberd versus the Arwings.

[Evastio]

I guess all of the characters are "locked" into their roles judging by the video (like Mario and Kirby always being the fighters at the start). Some of them will probably be interchangable like Mario & Kirby and Peach & Zelda.

Also, for people wondering about Adventure Mode you can check (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpAcuGrRCfk) out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ7qz8Z2PZw&feature=related) these (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu35ARBbX6M&feature=related) videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuQGy9v2UMM&feature=related). It may fill in some missing holes and answer some questions about the story. I'm still wondering about some of the characters though (like why Ike and Lucas are alone, why Yoshi and Link are teaming up, what's with Bowser and Wario trophyizing characters, and how the Ice Climbers and Meta Knight are working together. I'm guessing the Subspace Army left Meta Knight stranded on Icicle Mountain).

[stevom8311]

I wanna see sonic kirby!

Nice to see Dedede's B move revealed...another suction attack eh?

*still cant get over snake kirby* yeah definatly decembers best update so far!

Until tommorow that is :shifty:...muhahaha character update muhahaha! *going through character update denial*

Character update is the Christmas announcement. :shifty:

Mhhh talk about wishful thinking :shifty: I like it...

talk about awesome christmas present

[Markus. D]

Overalls Wario.

I sense them doing this to every character. ._.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Man Smash Dojo, I don't care about Wario.

[Roto13]

Man Smash Dojo, I don't care about Wario.

stfu. I do. xD

This makes me a happy Roto. When Wario was annouced in Brawl and he was the WarioWare version, a little piece of me died. Yay Classic Wario! Plus, this could possibly open the door for other costume changes.

[Skyblade]

Man Smash Dojo, I don't care about Wario.

stfu. I do. xD

This makes me a happy Roto. When Wario was annouced in Brawl and he was the WarioWare version, a little piece of me died. Yay Classic Wario! Plus, this could possibly open the door for other costume changes.

Except that they say that "Wario alone is unique" in this update, kinda ensuring that it won't happen to anyone else. Otherwise, this update would be awesome. People could get the Celda outfit for Link, and Ike could Class Change. :P

In fact, you could use this to handle clone characters. Switch through a character's outfits, and then you access their clone characters. Sonic becomes Shadow, etc...

[scrumpleberry]

D: fail

I just hope they have something super awesome tommorrow.

[Roto13]

It's unlikely, but I would laugh if his new costume let him use his purple Cadillac instead of his motorcycle. xP

[NeoCracker]

He is still unique, but just look at people like Link.

The dark color is more then an outfit change, it actually looks like Dark Link. So Shadow from Sonic isn't an impossibility.

Whats Unique about Wario is that he has 2 completely different Sets of Outfits. An entire set of Wario Ware, and an entire set of Classic, giving him twice the options of everyone else.

[Craig]

He is still unique, but just look at people like Link.

The dark color is more then an outfit change, it actually looks like Dark Link. So Shadow from Sonic isn't an impossibility.

Whats Unique about Wario is that he has 2 completely different Sets of Outfits. An entire set of Wario Ware, and an entire set of Classic, giving him twice the options of everyone else.

Shadow from Sonic is difficult. If they did a simple outfit change then yeah it'd be fine. A black sonic with red bits on him. Bus Shadow has different shaped spikes and he move slowly when he runs.

[scrumpleberry]

It's unlikely, but I would laugh if his new costume let him use his purple Cadillac instead of his motorcycle. xP

THAT would be a Christmas-worthy update.

[Monol]

It's unlikely, but I would laugh if his new costume let him use his purple Cadillac instead of his motorcycle. xP

THAT would be a Christmas-worthy update.

*raises hand* I second that...even though i still want krystal :(

[Markus. D]

He is still unique, but just look at people like Link.

The dark color is more then an outfit change, it actually looks like Dark Link. So Shadow from Sonic isn't an impossibility.

Whats Unique about Wario is that he has 2 completely different Sets of Outfits. An entire set of Wario Ware, and an entire set of Classic, giving him twice the options of everyone else.

Shadow from Sonic is difficult. If they did a simple outfit change then yeah it'd be fine. A black sonic with red bits on him. Bus Shadow has different shaped spikes and he move slowly when he runs.

perhaps he'll be a secret character x_x;

[Rase]

Hey look, it's Sonic's Final Smash. You know, the one we've pretty much known about since he was announced. Hooray.

At least they padded the update with a good song. Still, kind of a let down update for the most joyous day of the year.

[Markus. D]

It suits him perfectly :]

[Monol]

By george knuckles in brawl?! *trys to hard to be opptomistic about super lame update*

Good music though...even if i am deaf :p

[ljkkjlcm9]

By george knuckles in brawl?! *trys to hard to be opptomistic about super lame update*

Good music though...even if i am deaf :p

I expect Knuckles/tails to be assist trophies

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

Stop expecting Sakurai to celebrate your holidays with you. xP

[Rase]

Never.

[Roto13]

What do I get for my Kwanzaa update?

Man, this is the worst Ramadan update ever!

[Rase]

You'll find out from the 26th-1st. :p Plus, Ramadan was like September 13th or something. Or a least that roughly when it starts, IIRC.

EDIT:

Sweet new update today. I mean the actual update is interesting (def. gives some replay value for the OCD types), but the info in it makes me smile and wonder. Just what are Shadow Bugs (read the trophy for the Big Primid)? Also, Rayquaza as a boss? Hell yeah.

[Northcrest]

Cool throphy stand idea.

[Markus. D]

I'm not even going to bother checking the sight after reading that post, maybe tomorow :]

edit: *checks*

[Lawr]

Rayquaza as a boss

f*** yes.

[Markus. D]

I like the new trophy thingy.

I hope they will use coins for some other kind of shop though, for like... silly pointless stuff... Like in SC.

[Evastio]

Although I wasn't really expecting it, I'm glad that they made Wario's classic costume available.

The Christmas update, I wasn't fond of (I was expecting them to update secret characters or let the demo be downloadable or something big).

The trophy stands are a neat idea. I just hope trophyizing people won't be that hard. I wonder if you'll have to carry it around all the time or not though...

The Coin Launcher is also really neat. It'll make getting trophy's a lot more fun than the prize-dispensing machine. I guess it would be too much to ask if they made that multiplayer as well...

[Markus. D]

Well the items keep getting more and more interesting ^_^

[Roto13]

Two more updates, and rumour has it it's gone gold in Japan. Which really isn't surprising when you consider the fact that it's coming out in, like, a month.

[demondude]

No more updates until January 7th. :/

[Roto13]

Yeah. I think it's an excuse, though. I think they're running out of stuff they want to reveal. xP

[JKTrix]

Japanese businesses are traditionally closed for the first week of the New Year.

Christmas, not a big deal. New Year, Big Deal.

Hope the thread doesn't die :p

[Lawr]

Hope the thread doesn't die :p

Lol yeah. This has been going on since May, don't want to lose this revolutionary thread.

[NeoCracker]

Of course they are Roto, it's only 2 months away :P.

I'd be happy even if they didn't do any more updates to be honest, I mean they've already given us so many goodies.

[KentaRawr!]

I sure hope the create-a-stage thing allows one to make Adventure-Like stages as well as Brawling Stages, with enemies and the like. I'm sure all of us would like that, and it would be really nice to make our own levels based upon, or designed for, certain characters to complete, especially with the Stage Trading System.

[Roto13]

Of course they are Roto, it's only 2 months away :P.

I'd be happy even if they didn't do any more updates to be honest, I mean they've already given us so many goodies.

Yeah. They've been giving us at least 5 new pieces of info a week since, like, May. How many other games do that? xP

[Skyblade]

Of course they are Roto, it's only 2 months away :P.

I'd be happy even if they didn't do any more updates to be honest, I mean they've already given us so many goodies.

Yeah. They've been giving us at least 5 new pieces of info a week since, like, May. How many other games do that? xP

Not enough.

[Evastio]

Hm... It's almost as if you guys expected me to be disappointed about the update break and you're already trying to disgree with me. I guess they were making double updates to make up for it and they do deserve a break after all.

In the meantime, the MOJO (http://mojo.rick-gardiner.com/sensei/cpanel/) is letting us submit our own character updates and view other people's submitted updates. I'm warning you in advance quite a few of them are inappropriate and quite lousy. (I better not get banned for this since I'm not linking you to the update archive itself and I'm warning you in advance)

[Rase]

Hm... It's almost as if you guys expected me to be disappointed about the update break and you're already trying to disgree with me.
I'm pretty sure you're overestimating peoples ability to care.

[Roto13]

I haven't checked that site in ages. The music. Oh god. xP

[Evastio]

Looks like our updateless week is almost over.

In the meantime here's a fake update I made (http://mojo.rick-gardiner.com/sn/kyudi/characters/mr._bean.html). Hope it'll somewhat make up for this week.


I'm pretty sure you're overestimating peoples ability to care.
Nah. You're just underestimating people's ability to not care.

[Fonzie]

Paul Mercier (I) (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0580444/)

Voice Actor for Leon S. Kennedy, he might be an in game character, or just an Assist Trophy.

It's imdb, so this might be nothing significant.

[scrumpleberry]

Looks like our updateless week is almost over.

In the meantime here's a fake update I made (http://mojo.rick-gardiner.com/sn/kyudi/characters/mr._bean.html). Hope it'll somewhat make up for this week.


Fabbylicious. If only Nintendo would release a Mr. Bean game...

Is he affiliated with the Ice Climbers?

[Roto13]

OMG maybe they'll have a great big super awesome colossal update on Monday because they didn't have any for a week! OMG OMG OMG OMG OGMOGMOGMOGMGOMGOMGOGMG

[Evastio]

OMG maybe they'll have a great big super awesome colossal update on Monday because they didn't have any for a week! OMG OMG OMG OMG OGMOGMOGMOGMGOMGOMGOGMG
I sure hope so as well. I'm hoping it's secret characters or something...


Fabbylicious. If only Nintendo would release a Mr. Bean game...

Is he affiliated with the Ice Climbers?
I'm glad you like it. :D

I decided to stick in the Ice Climbers logo because it's the closest thing to a bean.

Top left picture: Sonic suffering the wrath of Mr. Bean on beans.
Top right picture: Mr. Bean shoving Bowser out of the spotlight.
Bottom left picture: King Dedede getting struck by Mr. Bean's dress shoes.
Bottom right picture: Mr. Bean biking into the Brawl.

[Roto13]

I was being sarcastic. xP

Clips: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Japanese Commercials (http://kotaku.com/341073/super-smash-bros-brawl-japanese-commercials)

[Markus. D]

Those 3 CMs are sooooooooooo amazing <333

I'm guessing that will be the update too ._.

[Rase]

Paul Mercier (I) (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0580444/)

Voice Actor for Leon S. Kennedy, he might be an in game character, or just an Assist Trophy.

It's imdb, so this might be nothing significant.
Still, that's a nice find Fonz. Certainly hope he shows up as at least an Assist, though I'm having trouble thinking of what he'd do. Perhaps a simple rocket launcher blast, or a Tommy Gun spray while in his gangster attire.

Also, spotted a Metroid in the first commercial, so there's probably another Assist Trophy that's all but confirmed.

[Northcrest]

Can't wait to see what happens on the updates tommarrow (No school till the day after tommarrow sweet). Well I'm still kind of confused in a way even though I've seen articles from Japan confirming certain characters (Ganondorf and Sheik) nothing has really happend. Plus There is still a bunch more characters that haven't been included. I hope that all (or most) of this will be answered tommarrow.

[Skyblade]

The return of more Melee stages. Yeah, snazzy update after that wait.

[Roto13]

That's what you get for getting your hopes up.

[Markus. D]

Kaboom 'n' stuff.

I hope Brinstar Depths is in there :D

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

They brought back Yoshi's Island? I don't know anybody who actually LIKES that stage.

[Heath]

Those were my thoughts exactly. Same with Onett actually. Glad to see Corneria, Brinstar and Rainbow Ride back though because those are decent enough stages, particularly Corneria.

[Creeping Shadow]

Im actually surprised there are so many melee stages returning. I know they did that with the originl stages in melee but still it seems unexpected.

[ljkkjlcm9]

btw, anyone hoping for megaman

MegaMan Creator Says Blue Bomber Not In Brawl | Game | Life from Wired.com (http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/inafune-megaman.html)

In the latest episode of the Bionic Commando podcast, MegaMan creator Keiji Inafune laid to rest rumors that his little blue robot would be appearing in Nintendo's upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Inafune's comments come as a let-down to hopeful fans, but his words also indicate a strong interest in having MegaMan join the series.

"Nintendo hasn’t asked me yet if they can use MegaMan in their game. I’m still waiting…we have a little bit of time left, it’s not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we’d like to put MegaMan in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they’ll give me a call," he said.

there are still some expected characters unannounced, such as Captain Falcon.

THE JACKEL

[Northcrest]

btw, anyone hoping for megaman

MegaMan Creator Says Blue Bomber Not In Brawl | Game | Life from Wired.com (http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/inafune-megaman.html)

In the latest episode of the Bionic Commando podcast, MegaMan creator Keiji Inafune laid to rest rumors that his little blue robot would be appearing in Nintendo's upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Inafune's comments come as a let-down to hopeful fans, but his words also indicate a strong interest in having MegaMan join the series.

"Nintendo hasn’t asked me yet if they can use MegaMan in their game. I’m still waiting…we have a little bit of time left, it’s not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we’d like to put MegaMan in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they’ll give me a call," he said.

there are still some expected characters unannounced, such as Captain Falcon.

THE JACKAL

O yes!

so did they probably replace Marth and Roy for Ike?

[Jessweeee♪]

SOMEONE TOLD ME PHOENIX WRIGHT WAS GOING TO BE IN THIS GAME???? IS THAT PERSON LYING????

[JKTrix]

Yes.

[Crossblades]

They brought back Yoshi's Island? I don't know anybody who actually LIKES that stage.

I love that stage:D

[Evastio]

That's what you get for getting your hopes up.
I actually like today's update. They confirmed five stages making it back and not just one. I also happen to not hate any of those levels (but I do hate always falling down the middle hole in Yoshi's Island). Too bad they didn't confirm Mute City though. That stage has the greatest SSB music ever.


so did they probably replace Marth and Roy for Ike?
I sure hope not. Same with Ness, Falco, and Pichu. Even if certain people think having characters with similar moves are redundant. They can always change their movesets around. And I'm sure that there'd be nothing wrong with keeping their A moves somewhat the same since that's what mostly separated the clone characters from each other (eg: Falco's spike and Fox's drill kick). It'd be quite awkward if they did kick out Ness or Marth. Having Ness' hometown be playable but not Ness himself would be extremely weird. Marth having his Emblem on the Castle Siege flags in Brawl but not Marth himself is just as bad (Marth's Emblem is on his cape if you don't know what it looks like). Also Nintendo would not stick in only one Fire Emblem character in Brawl since they had two in Melee. Not after they've released the Fire Emblem series out of Japan.

Which reminds me, anybody worried about Mewtwo and Mr. Game & Watch not making it? I know that they weren't really clones of anyone else but I'm still worried about them not making it back for some reason. (particularly Mr. Game & Watch. I've actually become quite decent with him)

Also I doubt Nintendo would prioritize third party characters over their own characters. (they better not...)

[Monol]

Im thinking Ikes definatly a replacment for roy and marth.

Ness's chances arent looking so hott either...but im still not counting him out just yet.

Pichus gone and so is doc. Those two ill put ANY money on that they aint coming back. Falco and ganon are more than likely getting revamped with a new move set. Mewtwo will be back (I hope...) but Game and watch's chances arent looking so good either. Im pretty sure warios the new game and watch ("weird" "wacky" fighting style...and just look at his stage) but we wont really know until the game comes out *shrugs*

Oh and todays update wasnt TOO bad...alot of stages i like are coming back which is nice. Hopfully for a better update tommorow though.

[Evastio]

Super Smash Bros: Melee
Fire Emblem was Japan Only at the Time
2 Fire Emblem Characters: Marth and Roy

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Fire Emblem now released nationally
1 Fire Emblem Character: Ike (According to you guys)
It'd make absolutely no sense if they did remove Marth and Roy for Ike. Despite being Japan only the Fire Emblem series were represented by two characters. Do you really think that they'd reduce the amount of Fire Emblem representatives now that it's been released nationally? I know you'll just argue that they might make another Fire Emblem character from FE 7-10 playable to balance things out but that most likely won't happen, especially since they've reduced Lyn to being an assist trophy.

Sheesh, you guys just keep hoping that characters you hate don't make it in don't you...

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Roy was only included in Melee to promote Fire Emblem: The Sword of Seals, and since that game has now come and gone, he's irrelevant. So, I'd only expect to see him return if they're intent on bringing back every character from the previous game.

Marth is a different case: As the original Fire Emblem protagonist, so it would be strange for him not to be in this game.

[Creeping Shadow]

Im pretty sure marth will make it back due to his new DS game coming out since most recent games that come out around this time usually have characters in brawl. As for roy im not as sure i mean its possible but it seems kinda slim. But the characters I want to see in brawl are:

Marth
Falco
Gannondorf
Roy

It seems more likely theyll put sothe in or any other character from fire emblem 7-10.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Super Smash Bros: Melee
Fire Emblem was Japan Only at the Time
2 Fire Emblem Characters: Marth and Roy

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Fire Emblem now released nationally
1 Fire Emblem Character: Ike (According to you guys)
It'd make absolutely no sense if they did remove Marth and Roy for Ike. Despite being Japan only the Fire Emblem series were represented by two characters. Do you really think that they'd reduce the amount of Fire Emblem representatives now that it's been released nationally? I know you'll just argue that they might make another Fire Emblem character from FE 7-10 playable to balance things out but that most likely won't happen, especially since they've reduced Lyn to being an assist trophy.

Sheesh, you guys just keep hoping that characters you hate don't make it in don't you...

you mean released internationally now...
anyways, Ike is very similar to Marth/Roy's moveset. He has the sword dance ability or what not for forward B, he has counter for down B, he has a charge up "earthquake/explosion" move for regular B, and the up B move is similar except that now it has a coming down move like Kirby's.

Roy will almost definitely not be back, as they said no clones, and Ike already has the moves the two had in the previous game. Marth has better chances of being back, but I still don't believe he will be.

Ganondorf should be back, I believe there was someone who worked on the game saying he did stuff for Ganondorf. I can almost predict that his Final Smash will be like Giga Bowser, except he'll turn into Pig Gannon.
I expect Captain Falcon to be back, and Ganondorf to have a different move set, and Captain Falcon's final smash will probably involve his Blue Falcon or something. I highly doubt they'd put Samurai Goroh as an assist trophy, and then have 0 F-zero racers playable.

THE JACKEL

[Creeping Shadow]

Captian falcon will most likley be a secret character like he was in the first super smash brothers because sakurai doesnt want to reveal the secret characters on the site. I wonder if they will announce any more assist trophys.

[Roto13]

Didn't he say the 3rd party characters would be secret characters?

[Creeping Shadow]

Thats the first Ive heard of that.

[Markus. D]

Multi-Man Brawl~

An Orgy of Alloy and pwnage.

[Monol]

Hooray alloy! The yellow ones my favorite! Red one kinda looks like captain falcon...

And Evastio...I LOVE marth! Dont get me wrong but it just seems sakuris promise to not have clone characters is holding up so far. I think hes supporting this by eliminating characters with "weaker" backstorys and personalitys and either spicing them up or replacing them with "stronger" characters.

Unlike roy marth at least has a chance. But as stated earlier it looks pretty slim. Same goes for ness. Sakuri said he wanted lucas in melee but and that he wanted to replace ness but he didnt get a chance to due to time constraints. He has the chance to do so in brawl and it looks like he took it...unless hes mindgaming us till the end and STILL keeping ness (I wouldnt doubt it...). Also look at move sets. Ikes the new brute of the game so it seems (though i heard he got tweaked before brawl went "gold") and his new forward smash supports this. It has power at both the tip and middle of the blade. Also marios Fair (Or foward air) deals knockback like doctor marios fair on the front of the fist but on the pull back it meteors like marios in melee. Meaning doc is likely to be gone (and by likely he aint coming back...MAYBE as a costume). Im just saying thats some basic (though lame) evidence hinting that marth may not return. Like i said he has a chance but its slim. Id like to see him back (He is of course the ORIGINAL fire emblem protagonist) but i wouldnt be suprised if he wasnt.

Whew glad i cleared that up :p

[Creeping Shadow]

You make a lot of good points there and now im certain marth wont return. :cry:

[JKTrix]

The Yellow Alloy looks like a Meteos (http://meteos.nintendods.com/) alien.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9081/newstopmeteoszj6.jpg

[Skyblade]

Ah, multiplayer multi-man brawls. Cool.

[Evastio]

I'm liking the Multi-Man Brawl's in Brawl. The alloys look quite cool as well. (it looks a little awkward how they're fighting outside instead of in outer space or a different dimension though. Nature and android looking things don't go well together. I really hope they don't kill Final Destination by making it have a natural look) My personal favourite would have to be the green alloy. I also like how they've made it two player now. That way you no longer have to make all of your buddies sit out while you're trying to unlock something and instead of finding the best character for Multi-Man Brawls you'll be finding the best character combination instead which makes things more interesting. I really hope they'll be making more modes multiplayer.

I'm guessing Roto13's right even though I haven't read it myself. Snake and Sonic haven't made much of an appearance in Adventure Mode or Event Matches yet. Also, Event Matches involving secret characters are usually the later ones. I'm not saying this because I'm trying to disappoint you people who like 3rd party characters but that's what the evidence is leading to.

I wouldn't give up hope yet Monol and Creeping Shadow. Until Brawl comes out and we know for sure who is and isn't in Brawl there's still hope of our favourite characters making it in (unless the Dojo confirms which characters aren't making it back which would be just cruel).

[Creeping Shadow]

It seems they made all the stadium events two player in brawl thats cool and all but I gotta wonder if theyll make any original events for brawl. Because thats one of the things that made melee cool was all the new original events.

[Monol]

Im sure they'll think of somthing even though im pretty pleased with what we have so far.

Oh its funny that you mentiond snakes prescence in the subspace Evastio because i was just reading this today...

thealmightygoat's Profile - GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/users/thealmightygoat/)

Not nessicarly OVERLY reliable info but i thought it was kinda neat non the less. But as you said we wont know anything for sure unless sakuri tells us or until the game is released. But i figured it was somthing cute to tide things over for awhile :D

[ljkkjlcm9]

in two weeks, roughly, the game will be out in Japan, and you'll be able to find out anything you want to know

THE JACKEL

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

WTF!?

[Monol]

Oh baby character update!!! Finally!

Yes i know you all are just DYING to thank me seeing how sakuri knew it was my birthday and all and decided to give us olimar. Well im here to say "Hey everyone no thanks nessicary as long your all happy, Im happy" :D

Glad to see sakuris still the man...

Now we wait for krystal and ridley....*waits*

[KH-Cloudy]

in two weeks, roughly, the game will be out in Japan, and you'll be able to find out anything you want to know

THE JACKAL

Excellent.

[Rase]

Now to wait and see how long it takes before people start whining for another character update.

I for one like this one, if only because it may mean Pikmin 3 is in the works for the Wii. :D

[Creeping Shadow]

Wow I could have sworn that they were done with character updates.

[JKTrix]

Gotta say though, I don't recognize that music. Sounds more like something from Chrono Trigger.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasunori_Mitsuda)
But yeah, game's out in 2 weeks in Japan, then a couple weeks later on this side of the world. Everything will be spoiled by then.

[Roto13]

HAH! HAH I say to people saying that Olimar was too short to be in Brawl and there's no way he'd be able to fight! I SAY HAH!

*does Eliot's 'I told you so' dance from Scrubs*

[KentaRawr!]

Gotta say though, I don't recognize that music. Sounds more like something from Chrono Trigger.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasunori_Mitsuda)

Well, the Arrangement Supervisor was Yasunori Mitsuda. Maybe that has to do with it.

Edit: I should have followed the link first before I said that.

[JKTrix]

He still doesn't fight :P He just chucks his slaves around, and when the Pikmin die he's apparently screwed.

I guess that element makes him a little similar to the Ice Climbers. If one dies, his efficiency changes somewhat. Though I'm assuming the Pikmin can grow back if he stays alive long enough.

[KentaRawr!]

I wonder what his Final Smash will be. Maybe something to do with that juice that makes his Pikmin stronger by agitating them.

[Markus. D]

I never expected to see this.

[scrumpleberry]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEE!


I screamed so loudly. NINETNDO ILU SO MUCH! YAY OLIMAR! The music is fabby too. :kaocheer:

[ljkkjlcm9]

from what I can understand, it sounds like one of his moves is to actually pull a pikmin from the ground, more than likely his Down B special move.

There's actually two more symbols missing, out of the 22 we "have" now
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_02.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_03.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_04.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_05.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_06.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_07.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_08.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_09.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_10.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_11.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_12.gifMissing #13 http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_14.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_15.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_16.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_17.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_18.gifMissing #19 http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_20.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_21.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_22.gif

Symbol 21 has no character, but is used for a stage, the Pictochat one
Symbol 15 has no character, but is used for a stage, Animal crossing
and neither does symbol 5, but we all know that to be Captain Falcon's symbol, though right now it's there cause of Samurai Goroh

the only thing is, games with characters as assist trophies, that don't have playable characters, such as Dr. Wright or Knuckle Joe or Saki Amamiya, have the smash bros symbol for them. Basically I use this logic to tell me Captain Falcon, though not confirmed anywhere, is a playable character.

THE JACKAL

[Evastio]

It's really nice to see another character update especially considering that it's been a long time since we've had one. And it's not just any character. (or a 3rd party character) It's Captain Olimar and the Pikmin!!! :D

It kind of leaves me with a lot of questions though. Is he a secret character or something? They started updating levels from game series twice which made me think that they aren't revealing things from game series that have secret characters. (like the Game & Watch series) Also, how does he work exactly? I'm thinking he's more complicated to use than the Ice Climbers or even the Pokemon Trainer.

Now to wait and see how long it takes before people start whining for another character update.
It won't happen. By the time we even consider getting disappointed about the lack of character updates the DOJO will be useless towards us. The game will already be out in Japan and we will have in-depth Walkthroughs explaining Brawl in immense details instead of a mere site that give us a mere 1 update a day.

Wow. That sure didn't sound like a villain speech. It's also a little harsh. Anyways, I'll hopefully only be using those walkthroughs to find out which characters make it in and which ones don't. I want to try to unlock everything by myself without having to resort to the internet to find out everything.



There's actually two more symbols missing, out of the 22 we "have" now
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_02.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_03.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_04.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_05.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_06.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_07.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_08.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_09.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_10.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_11.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_12.gifMissing #13 http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_14.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_15.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_16.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_17.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_18.gifMissing #19 http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_20.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_21.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_22.gif

Symbol 21 has no character, but is used for a stage, the Pictochat one
Symbol 15 has no character, but is used for a stage, Animal crossing
and neither does symbol 5, but we all know that to be Captain Falcon's symbol, though right now it's there cause of Samurai Goroh

the only thing is, games with characters as assist trophies, that don't have playable characters, such as Dr. Wright or Knuckle Joe or Saki Amamiya, have the smash bros symbol for them. Basically I use this logic to tell me Captain Falcon, though not confirmed anywhere, is a playable character.

THE JACKAL
Uhh... Where'd you hear that there's 24 symbols in all? I haven't read that on the DOJO or any site.

Also, Knuckle Joe has the Kirby symbol.

[ljkkjlcm9]

There's actually two more symbols missing, out of the 22 we "have" now
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_02.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_03.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_04.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_05.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_06.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_07.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_08.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_09.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_10.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_11.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_12.gifMissing #13 http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_14.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_15.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_16.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_17.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_18.gifMissing #19 http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_20.gif
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_21.gifhttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_22.gif

Symbol 21 has no character, but is used for a stage, the Pictochat one
Symbol 15 has no character, but is used for a stage, Animal crossing
and neither does symbol 5, but we all know that to be Captain Falcon's symbol, though right now it's there cause of Samurai Goroh

the only thing is, games with characters as assist trophies, that don't have playable characters, such as Dr. Wright or Knuckle Joe or Saki Amamiya, have the smash bros symbol for them. Basically I use this logic to tell me Captain Falcon, though not confirmed anywhere, is a playable character.

THE JACKAL
Uhh... Where'd you hear that there's 24 symbols in all? I haven't read that on the DOJO or any site.

Also, Knuckle Joe has the Kirby symbol.
I never said there were 24 symbols in all
I guess it was worded weird, but I was saying pikmin, is symbol number 22, and between 1 and 22, 2 of them are missing
that would make 22 symbols, not 24, but 2 of those are blank... it wouldn't make sense to leave random 13, and 19 missing, if they didn't plan on having a symbol for them

to clarify:
Literally the web address, http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gif
b_13 and b_19 are missing, and the new Pikmin symbol is b_22, the last one


some guy here: Fires of Heaven Guild Message Board - View Single Post - Super Smash Bros. Brawl (http://www.fohguild.org/forums/950816-post291.html)
claims to know the entire roster, I however am not so sure about some of those mentioned... and, that's a large roster

THE JACKEL

[Monol]

Yeeeah im not so impressed by that "fake" roster either. I mean some of the options sound cool and all but i still dont buy it. Any ways nice speculation on the whole captain falcon thing. I would also like to add that "Red alloy" is obviously based on captain falcon. We all knew he was in im just curious why sakuri hasnt mentioned him yet. I can possibly see maybe some of his moves being tweaked for ganondorfs sake (ex: maybe ganon keeps a move or two) but i dont find that overly nessicary (not to mention the off chance that ganon isnt a playable character but rather just a boss in subspace...which would be sooo lame) being a reason for delay but still i cant help but wonder...

Oh well we know he's in, we got a character yesterday some im now content with the DOJO. Hopfully we get olimars moves tommorow...im curious to see how the little guy operates.

[Skyblade]

Snake's Final Smash revealed. More heavy ordinance, but rather fun looking way of using it.

[Markus. D]

Also a closer look at his FFX-2 Inspire attire...

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Party foul: Comparing Shinkawa (http://metalgearsolid.org/gallery/galleries/1.%20Metal%20Gear%20Saga/Metal%20Gear%20Solid/Artwork/027.jpg) to Nomura (http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/x2-nooj-a.jpg).

[JKTrix]

Spoilers
Direct Leak from 2 Channel (Spoilers) - Smash World Forums (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=135962)

Real, fake, take it at face value. The apparent full roster taken from Japan's 2chan. They mention Captain Falcon is the only person who hasn't appeared on the site from the Default/Starting roster, so everyone we've seen on the website is not an unlock.

I think if people are going to talk about this list, they should post in spoilers. Just in case this *is* real. (Which I doubt.)

--Edit: Poking around in that thread eventually led me to this person's blog (http://au.gamespot.com/users/FForceSultan/), who at least has some additional information to back up his claims.
--Edit2: Actually, yeah. Ignore the first part of the post and just look at the last link I posted. (Click 'All My Blog Posts' at the bottom and check some of his other stuff.) Of particular interest is one where he lists the 'alternate costumes' of characters. Wario isn't the only one. Still, keep spoilerriffic comments tagged.

[Roto13]

Interesting close up of Snake's ass.

Also, please don't let this be true. ;-;

Rumor: Smash Bros. Brawl Pushed To March? (http://kotaku.com/343267/smash-bros-brawl-pushed-to-march)

[Monol]

Its not...the game went "Gold". You have nothing to worry about ;)

[Roto13]

The game went gold in JAPAN. :P

[Evastio]

Normally, I'd find today's update lousy (being a 3rd party character update) but seeing as how it makes Snake look like he's mimicking Dixie and Kiddy in DKC3 how they fight the snowman boss I actually find it quite funny.

I never said there were 24 symbols in all
I guess it was worded weird, but I was saying pikmin, is symbol number 22, and between 1 and 22, 2 of them are missing
that would make 22 symbols, not 24, but 2 of those are blank... it wouldn't make sense to leave random 13, and 19 missing, if they didn't plan on having a symbol for them

to clarify:
Literally the web address, http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/icon/world_b_01.gif
b_13 and b_19 are missing, and the new Pikmin symbol is b_22, the last one
Oh. Clever.

That probably means that there'll be 2 or more symbols they haven't shown yet. (1 hopefully being Game & Watch. I've actually become quite decent with him)

[Markus. D]

Party foul: Comparing Shinkawa (http://metalgearsolid.org/gallery/galleries/1.%20Metal%20Gear%20Saga/Metal%20Gear%20Solid/Artwork/027.jpg) to Nomura (http://www.ffcompendium.com/art/x2-nooj-a.jpg).

I never stated either's names. :]

[Monol]

The game went gold in JAPAN. :P

Touche good sir *takes off hat*

[Rase]

Olimar's move set is up. Looks to be just like they say, very interesting and specialized. I love how they kept the properties of all the Pikmin in mind and didn't just make them the same thing with a different color coating. I'll definitely have to give Olimar some serious play time, because he looks to be very deadly if you give him some practice. Kinda sad they didn't give his Final Smash away though. I'm wracking my brain to think of one, and all I can find is the Nectar Power-Up idea, the Dolphin doing something, or a horde of computer controlled Pikmin appearing from Onions and swarming enemies.

[NeoCracker]

This new guy looks fun as smurf to play.

[Skyblade]

Olimar's move set is up. Looks to be just like they say, very interesting and specialized. I love how they kept the properties of all the Pikmin in mind and didn't just make them the same thing with a different color coating. I'll definitely have to give Olimar some serious play time, because he looks to be very deadly if you give him some practice. Kinda sad they didn't give his Final Smash away though. I'm wracking my brain to think of one, and all I can find is the Nectar Power-Up idea, the Dolphin doing something, or a horde of computer controlled Pikmin appearing from Onions and swarming enemies.

Maybe those Pikmin ghosts will have something to do with his Final Smash... The more get killed since the last Final Smash, the more ghosts there are to hurt Olimar's enemies? It'd be fitting with his odd, wacky, Pikmin-based attack style...

[ljkkjlcm9]

so, his regular B and his down B aren't attacks. And I'm actually kind of annoyed they're making so many chain recover moves. Of course, I think I remember reading that they automatically aim at the edge, but this can either make recoveries easier, or harder, depending how exactly it works

THE JACKEL

[Markus. D]

So we have 12 Vets and 12 Newcomers (so far?). :D

This is going to be great!

[Roto13]

He seems interesting to play as.

[Evastio]

I like how his moves really fit him but, they sure made him really confusing and hard to use.

Until Captain Olimar came, I thought that the hardest character to use would be the Pokemon Trainer (having to change Pokemon at the right time to make the most of them) and before him I thought that the Ice Climbers were the most difficult to use (it took such a long time for me to become pro with them). I really hope that the Pikmin & Olimar will be as easy to use as the DOJO says they will be.

[Roto13]

http://kotaku.com/343825/preorder-ssbb-from-wal+mart-for-20

I dunno if it's a mistake or not, but it might be worth checking out. :P

[Skyblade]

Interesting way of putting unlockables up there. I guess people will finally know when they've gotten all of the hidden features in this one. :P

Still, if hammers can't be used on some challenges, I don't really see the point of the hammers. People will want to unlock the most annoying/difficult challenges, or the "have a ______ save file", and those are the ones that are most likely to be unbreakable.

[JKTrix]

I think some of the 'unbreakable windows' might be linked to completing things in the Story Mode or stuff like 'Break the Targets'--things that should be earned through genuine effort. Something more suitable for using a hammer for would probably be stuff like 'get 50 Meteor KOs without dying'. Things that are more like Gameplay Achievements rather than Game Progression.

[Rase]

Hmm, very interesting and awesome. I like how it looks like some things will be unlocked through seemingly random things like fighting on the Halberd 10 times. Should keep it interesting by constantly doling out little rewards for playing.

[Roto13]

This is exactly what Sakurai did for Kirby's Air Ride. It's pretty cool.

[Evastio]

I like the new Challenges Mode. It'll help make unlocking everything easier and it'll help keep track of unlockables. I somewhat don't like how they tell you how to unlock stuff though. I'd prefer it if it'd only tell you how to unlock something by using a hammer on something you can't break open.

[Monol]

Ohh challenge mode...I like it but im curious as to how the hammers actually work. I mean i get HOW they work just like how do you get them? How many do you get? Stuff like that.

Its neat though...kirbys air ride was awwwsome!

Im thinking a stage tonight though...were due for one and sakuris on fire so far ;)

[Roto13]

Ohh challenge mode...I like it but im curious as to how the hammers actually work. I mean i get HOW they work just like how do you get them? How many do you get? Stuff like that.

If it's like Air Ride, you'll unlock them by accomplishing challenges. :P

[Jessweeee♪]

I hate you stupid liar TJ :kaocry2:

[Creeping Shadow]

I cant belive they delayed this game again :mad2: . Oh well the new pikmin stage looks pretty entertaining.

[ljkkjlcm9]

the delay sucks... but how many times was ocarina of time delayed?

I honestly wish more companies would delay games to ensure a better product than rushing them as they often do. Many games could use an extra month or two of polish. Considering I plan on playing the game for years, one more month won't kill me.

THE JACKEL

[Monol]

Still SUPER upsetting though...especially since we thought it went gold. (At least in japan, sheesh :( )

On a brighter note the new stage looks fun. Love the way the graphics look straight from the game. Plus im quite a fan of rain.

"We're smaaaashing in the rain..." :p

[JKTrix]

It was delayed a week in Japan too.

This frees up space for you all to buy Professor Layton & the Mysterious Village! (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/sGfgV3RpczLDtx6IdEP7JjMsiI2t29gv) Do it!

[Roto13]

Now I won't get a chance to play it before I go back to Vancouver to a world where I don't own a tv! BWAAAAAAHHHHH

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Delayed!? :mad2:

Oh well, if it means the game will shine... :cry:


Now I won't get a chance to play it before I go back to Vancouver to a world where I don't own a tv! BWAAAAAAHHHHH

Buy a TV Card for your computer, that's what I did.

[Roto13]

My :skull::skull::skull::skull:ty little laptop is :skull::skull::skull::skull:ty.

[JKTrix]

Masahiro Sakurai is going to be giving a presentation at the Game Developer's Conference, (http://www.gdconf.com/news/directors_cut/directors_cut_the_return_of_ni.html) titled "Building Characters: The Super Smash Bros. Brawl Postmortem".

I almost 'lol'ed at 'Postmortem', but the game will be out in Japan by then so it's awright. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to that talk.

[Skyblade]

Buy a TV before you leave, Roto. A little 6 inch one. They're not that expensive.

[JKTrix]

Or one of these.

i-O Display Systems: Head Mounted Display Video Glasses and 3D Products for Video and PC (http://www.i-glassesstore.com/)

Dennou Coil...it is not.

[Roto13]

I'd rather eat my own face than try to play a Wii game on a 6 inch tv. And pointing inside of a visor is probably really awkward.

[Larahl]

This frees up space for you all to buy Professor Layton & the Mysterious Village! (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/sGfgV3RpczLDtx6IdEP7JjMsiI2t29gv) Do it!
Don't you mean, Professor Layton and the Curious Village?
And, yes, buy the game and play it when it comes own.
Level-5 FTW.

Oh, yeah, and bummer for the delay, and especially for you, Roto. P:

[KentaRawr!]

Or one of these.

i-O Display Systems: Head Mounted Display Video Glasses and 3D Products for Video and PC (http://www.i-glassesstore.com/)

Dennou Coil...it is not.

I can barely tell what it is. At first glance, it looks like a visor, putting screens upon one's eyes. But they make it seem like a pair of 3D Glasses when you read their descriptions.

[Markus. D]

I'm loving the new Pikmin Stage :]!

[Dreddz]

Delayed again!?

This threads never going to end....

[Roto13]

Maybe bitching will help.

Go away.

[XxSephirothxX]

It's not going to help you either, Roto. So don't.

Just a few days ago I'd finally started to get exciting about the upcoming release and was allowing myself to plan for a Smash Bros. party. And now look what you've done to me, Nintendo. :mad2:

[Evastio]

This second delay really sucks. I guess Sakurai isn't as reliable a person as he seemed to be at first. :mad:

This frees up space for you all to buy Professor Layton & the Mysterious Village! (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/sGfgV3RpczLDtx6IdEP7JjMsiI2t29gv) Do it!
Using this opportunity as an advertisement are we?

[JKTrix]

Yes, because the game was originally coming out on the same week as Smash Bros. There are a few good games coming for Nintendo systems coming before Smash, but I don't think Advance Wars (next week) and Ace Attorney (Feb 12) need to be pimped. Professor Layton, however, is something that folks should keep an eye on. Especially if you're Level-5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_5) fans! (And the name *is* "Professor Layton & the Curious Village". I've had the 'Japanese' name of it in my head for a year. Old habits die hard.)

But yeah, I want Layton to do good because there are 3 games in the series, and I want them all in English. Like Ace Attorney.

If Layton was in Smash Bros, I think that'd be awesome.

As for Sakurai talking at GDC, the event takes place from Feb 18-22. Last year, Koji Kondo had a panel (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157844) on music as part of the interactive experience. I'm really looking forward to what Sakurai has to say.

[KentaRawr!]

At least it's only a month delay in the US, A week if you import from, or live in, Japan. But once it is released in Japan, what will become of the US site for 3 weeks? And when that happens, what will become of all the EU pages for all eternity? I'm thinking the site will simply shut down at Japan's release, since anyone with the intarwebz can get the data easily anyway. :p

Edit: YouTube - Super Smash Bros Brawl - NEW TRAILER! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zGsLt9kZfY)

Not much stuff we didn't really know beforehand, but it's nice to see the game in it's final form at last.

[Roto13]

I don't see anything in the Wind Waker Link trophy that would reveal him as a character. :P

Also, JKTrix can rest easier now that the Ouendan guys are confirmed to be in it in at least one form.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I don't see anything in the Wind Waker Link trophy that would reveal him as a character. :P

Also, JKTrix can rest easier now that the Ouendan guys are confirmed to be in it in at least one form.

Wait, what's this about the Ouendan guys? Where did you hear that?

[Roto13]

Calm down. They're a trophy. :P It's in the video.

[KentaRawr!]

Well, Sheik has been seen, though since I found this on Gamefaqs, I doubt its credibility to a fairly large extent, but I think it may just be real. It appears to be from a JP strategy guide, which has pages outlining every character, it seems, and it has Zelda in it (http://i17.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/6t5wvgj.jpg).

Now, of course, there's one obvious thing about this. The Sheik picture looks ferociously like the SSBM model, and it's on a stage that was on Melee. They could have obtained a picture of Zelda on that Stage as a Past Stage in Brawl, and took a picture of the same spot in Melee. Ah, however! Look at Sheik's legs. She had no such bands in Melee to my memory (http://www.detstar.com/00/mailbag/ssbm_sheiks.jpg). It was a much more patterned out design, while the Brawl design seen here looks like a bunch of patches of the same color one sewed together! A real rogue look!

If this turns out to be true, it's not really a huge surprise, at least to me, with the artist working on art for Sheik and Ganondorf in this game and all that. Besides, Sheik is teh awesomez. :3 No way they'd get rid of her.

Edit: Some people are saying it's from Famitsu, but I'm not sure.

[Roto13]

The Red guy at around 3:40 in the video is doing Captain Falcon moves.

Just sayin'. :P

[KentaRawr!]

The Red guy at around 3:40 in the video is doing Captain Falcon moves.

Just sayin'. :P

Oh, come on. Like Captain Falcon wouldn't be in Brawl. :p

Or maybe the Red Alloy is his replacement.

Edit:

Bowser has officially raped Sheik. (http://i19.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/83468sh.jpg)

[Monol]

Who else is gonna have the legendary "third knee" final smash?

Also im trying to spot were PT is when hes shown fighting. Anyone spot the little bugger? (Heh its like playing "wheres waldo" or somthing)

And im glad i got to see this video. It reminded me why i wanted this game so im not TOO angry about the delay anymore :D

Plus nice to see krystal as a sticker...thats a start sakuri :p

[KentaRawr!]

And now, according to the JP Brawl Site, Sheik is in.

Hurray! Air Intercept B-Slap is back!

[Monol]

Whoot shieks in baby and s/he looks hardcore! As if there was any doubt...thats two characters in a week! Sakuri you sly (yet PAINFULLY unreliable) dog you *waves finger*

[KentaRawr!]

Every character profile lists their attacks now on the Dojo. :p Cool.

[XxSephirothxX]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/sheik/sheik_080116b-l.jpg
Looks fantastic, too. They should've stuck her in Twilight Princess just to make use of that design. :p

[KentaRawr!]

Y'know, it's odd. In that picture, I very easily see two Zero Suit Samus sized breasts, and yet in all others, the size shrinks drastically. Perhaps it's just the angle. :monster:

[Creeping Shadow]

Y'know, it's odd. In that picture, I very easily see two Zero Suit Samus sized breasts, and yet in all others, the size shrinks drastically. Perhaps it's just the angle. :monster:

And just think Sheik wants everyone to think shes a he.

[Heath]

Excellent to see Sheik return. Not a surprise in the least, but good to see her back. Zelda/Sheik was definitely one of the most fun characters to use in SSB:M.

[JKTrix]

Also, JKTrix can rest easier now that the Ouendan guys are confirmed to be in it in at least one form.

Wait, what's this about the Ouendan guys? Where did you hear that?

4:07. Hells Yeah.

That was a good video. Adventure mode looks much better than I thought it would.

Also, Famitsu (http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4193/smaburafamitsunw1.jpg).

[Roto13]

Sheik's final smash is the same as Zelda's. (At least by the name.)

That link is in Japan-language, but apparently Famitsu has scored the game 40/40. xP

Link. (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/16/its-worth-the-wait-smash-bros-brawl-scores-40-40-from-famitsu/)

[KentaRawr!]

Well, good to see they liked it. 40/40 seems pretty high for Famitsu, especially considering the small amount of 40's they've given out, as pointed out by the article. But I'll still wait and see for myself. :3

[Markus. D]

T_____T *tears of joy*

Yay~ Sheik~

[JKTrix]

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/820/ssbbjpcvrug7.jpg
Translation of the Famitsu reviews (http://brawlcentral.com/)


You can control tons of characters like Mario and Snake. Up to four players can battle at once. Cooperative mode is added in. Online battles are also possible.
Target Players: Anyone can enjoy this one
Average Play time: That depends on how you play this game

This time single player has tons of content. The adventure mode is quite long and fun. And the story presentation is amazing. As for the fights, with the strong unpredictable factor that comes with final smashes, more than ever we can be excited about matches not being related to skill. The controls and sound are also satisfying. Hats off to Nintendo.
Score: 10

The new unpredictable factor that is the final smash allows us to enjoy an amazing effect and refreshing feel from any character. The fights are even more intense. The single player modes are abundant and a plus. The Subspace Emissary Adventure mode movie and action tempo are good and you just forget time while playing. Im highly satisfied with the game.
Score: 10

The powerhouse cast and gimmicks! The dynamic and subtle character moves! The must see final smashes! There are tons of battle stages. The single player mode is also extremely satisfying. There is a stage edit, and you can browse through the detailed information in the game.
Score 10

The moves of the the all star roster of characters have been polished, and the addicting one player mode has been perfected. With its outstanding graphics and wonderful ambience, Brawl is an epic game in which you can feel the efforts that went into it. Every time you play it, you’ll discover something new, and you’ll savor both sweet joy and bitter loss when you battle.
Score: 10

[Monol]

I hope shieks FS is at least a little different then zeldas. Even just showing sheik shooting the arrows (which would look kinda strange) would satisfy me. *drools at review* I want this game...i wanna lightning kick people now!

Oh and good eye kentarou! Olimars final smash....End of day? Sounds neat :p

[Roto13]

Final Smashes that were unknown before now:

Zero Suit Samus - Power Suit Samus. I'm guessing she gets her armour back and maybe does her Final Smash again, this time keeping her armour?

Pikmin and Olimar - End of Day. At the end of the day in Pikmin, any Pikmin that aren't safely in an onion are eaten by monsters. Maybe that's what happens here.

Zelda/Sheik - Light Arrow. I saw a screenshot... somewhere... of Zelda with a bow, firing a light arrow. It was a magazine scan. It's not particularly surprising.

EDIT: Found it. It was on Brawl Central. (http://www.brawlcentral.com)

http://www.brawlcentral.com/images/news/2008_01_12(3).jpg

EDIT 2: Scans, showing more Final Smashes. Samus does, indeed, get her suit back. Olimar isn't there, though.

http://www.brawlcentral.com/famitsu_scans.php

[scrumpleberry]

GASPP.

I'm so happy they kept Sheik in. She was my favourite character in Melee. This is really getting exciting :hyper:

[Evastio]

I was never a fan of Sheik, even at the start. (If you're a Sheik fan don't read this) She was my most unfavourite SSBM character tied with Young Link. I don't like how they made her a lot better than Zelda. No one actually uses her because of that. Also, most Sheik users only use her needles, running A, and smash attacks and don't make any use of her other attacks against enemies which gets really annoying and repetitive.

I guess if Sheik and other cheap, annoying characters are weakened or not made as cheap, I'll be okay with them. At least this update (as well as the addition of the movesets of all characters) shows that they aren't tampering around with the Veterans much which gives more hope for Marth, Falco, and Ness making it back. (people also won't be able to use the "Ike has the Sword Dance just like Marth and Roy so they won't be making it back" argument.)

[scrumpleberry]

I won't deny that I'm cheap, but I'm not a very talented gamer, soooo I will tend to choose easier characters. No offence taken. :razz:

Edit: Not saying that she can't be played well by talented gamers..!

[Monol]

I like shiek but im a zelda main. I kind of like how zelda gets overshawdowed by shieks sweet yet overly broken play style. Makes zelda more unpredictable ;)

I dont see why they would get rid of falco. He could at least have his own moveset.

I hope ness makes it back somehow...i could live without marth (even though he's my best character :p )

[Evastio]

I'm not going to be reduced to using Ike if Marth and Roy don't make it back. They made Link and Ike too similar. (both sword users, blade causes the same damage everywhere, slow, strong) That's why I like Marth so much. He's really fast, has fast strikes that take priority over other attacks, has Counter to help against cheap strategies, has physical attacks that outrange everyone elses, and he looks really cool. I remember how long it took for me to become really good with him (I didn't know I could use his Sword Dance to get back on the stage) and it'll be extremely disappointing for me if he doesn't make it.

[KentaRawr!]

I liked starting combos with Tilt-Up + A. It lifts people off the ground. :p

Edit: Ike is like the Bowser of this game, but more powerful, and more slowerer.

[Evastio]

You serious? Oo

Bowser is faster than Ike but weaker? Where'd you read this?

[Monol]

Smashboards.com is a good source.

Also as a marth user i looove his dash dance. Out of all the characters id say mewtwo and marth have the sweetest ways of moving. I like playing the air with my marth so i do alot of shffl'd Forward airs and double forward airs.


Oh and to anyone who hasnt seen Zamus final smash there is a compilation of earlier final smashes on youtube. To lazy to find the link lol so search it yourselves you scurvy mates! :p

[Skyblade]

Edit: Ike is like the Bowser of this game, but more powerful, and more slowerer.

Slower? They did base this on Ike right? He may not be the fastest FE character, but he was definitely no Bowser...

[.:kerrod:.]

why cant they just leave all of the old characters and add more?! they're ruining it, marth and roy were the bomb, and dont tell me bowser wont be in this game, i'll go off

[KentaRawr!]

Bowser's in this game, don't worry. Check the site www.smashbros.com - Select Language - Nintendo (http://www.smashbros.com) for currently confirmed characters.

[.:kerrod:.]

oh good :p thanks, not that i like him that much, i mean, he's cool, but he's just a classic nintendo character...

EDIT: What?! Luigi's not confirmed?! are they kidding?!

[KentaRawr!]

Probably an unlockable.

Edit: Wii.com JP - 『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズX�ファイター篇��2 (http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft82/)

Edit 2:

Wii.com JP - 『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズX�大乱闘篇��2 (http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft85/)

and

Wii.com JP - 『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズX�大乱闘篇��1 (http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft84/)

[Evastio]

Probably an unlockable.
He better be one. Luigi's underrated enough as it is. Being kicked out of Brawl won't help that at all. I'm really hoping that the real reason as to why they aren't revealing characters like Luigi, Ness, Marth, Falco, and Captain Falcon is because they're secret characters and they don't want to show them until the game is released (I know that's most likely the case but it's always possible that it isn't).

[Creeping Shadow]

I'm not going to be reduced to using Ike if Marth and Roy don't make it back. They made Link and Ike too similar. (both sword users, blade causes the same damage everywhere, slow, strong) That's why I like Marth so much. He's really fast, has fast strikes that take priority over other attacks, has Counter to help against cheap strategies, has physical attacks that outrange everyone elses, and he looks really cool. I remember how long it took for me to become really good with him (I didn't know I could use his Sword Dance to get back on the stage) and it'll be extremely disappointing for me if he doesn't make it.


so true I agree with that all the way.:up:

[Monol]

YouTube - New Brawl Commercial 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ2-JLTET88) dont forget this one...Olimars final smash yeauhhz!!

Anyways I'm hoping there doing the whole "old school" unlocking idea with captain falcon, luigi, ness and jigglypuff (they were the unlockables in the first game in that right). We can only hope sakuri knows what hes doing.

I still have faith even if the odds look slim...

[Markus. D]

So randomly getting his ship back up.

:[... I thought it would be something kewler~... I guess it IS the goal of Pikmin.

[KentaRawr!]

Judging by Commercial 5, Sonic is a complete badass.

[Rase]

So randomly getting his ship back up.

:[... I thought it would be something kewler~... I guess it IS the goal of Pikmin.
Seems to me like he hops in his ship and rockets off, then monsters have their way with the remaining combatants or something. Just speculation.

[Markus. D]

Suprise~ a more in-depth show of Olimar's Final Smash

[JKTrix]

Pikmin and Olimar - End of Day. At the end of the day in Pikmin, any Pikmin that aren't safely in an onion are eaten by monsters. Maybe that's what happens here.

1st prize.

[Roto13]

So randomly getting his ship back up.

:[... I thought it would be something kewler~... I guess it IS the goal of Pikmin.
Seems to me like he hops in his ship and rockets off, then monsters have their way with the remaining combatants or something. Just speculation.

Runner up. :P

[KentaRawr!]

I just noticed that Porky's theme is on the site. o_O When did we get that?

Edit: Lawl. (http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?jurt3d1gjcys)

[Evastio]

I have to say Captain Olimar's final smash fits him and his game.

[Creeping Shadow]

The best part about olimars final smash is the last part of it. where he crashes his ship on the other players awesome.

[KentaRawr!]

YTMND - Still Delayed (http://stilldelayed.ytmnd.com/)

Lawl.

[Markus. D]

Awww that little song was cute n_n

[Ouch!]

That song was brilliant!

[XxSephirothxX]

As if the traditional story mode, massive multiplayer, online play, events, unlockables, and stage builder weren't enough, now there's character stat customization via stickers. Jesus.

[NeoCracker]

Thank god Stickers are only used in the Emissary Mode. If it was in standard matches.

Though it is a fun little tweak to use for the Emissary Mode.

[Markus. D]

SUPER SMASH, THE RPG!

<3333

[JKTrix]

Thank god Stickers are only used in the Emissary Mode.

I had the same concerns when I started reading it. Though it would be interesting if you could turn on 'friendly fire' in Adventure mode :p

[Markus. D]

I wonder how long the Emissary will span on for.

[Monol]

I loved this update. Stickers rock. Super smash bros rocks. Nintendo rocks.

Put em together...Ooodles of fun! *loves his stickers*

Subspace is supposidly 10 hours long. But lets get real here im not raising my expectations THAT high just yet...im hoping for at least 3 to 5 hours. That should keep me pretty busy.

[JKTrix]

Subspace is supposidly 10 hours long. But lets get real here im not raising my expectations THAT high just yet...im hoping for at least 3 to 5 hours. That should keep me pretty busy.

Then you have to do it with all the characters in order to unlock everything (non-hammerable windows in the Challenge screen perhaps). Melee had 25 characters, and even taking your lowest number...that would be 75 hours for all the characters.

[scrumpleberry]

Ooh yes, I likey very much :D

[KentaRawr!]

It reminds me of Contact. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_%28video_game%29)

[Roto13]

Zelda's Final Smash revealed, but who cares about that. This is MUCH better:

Nintendo accidentally confirms Lucario, Ness, Jigglypuff for Brawl - Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/21/nintendo-accidentally-confirms-lucario-ness-jigglypuff-for-bra/)

Where was that list of unlockable characters someone posted that was probably fake? Didn't it have Lucario on it?

[ljkkjlcm9]

Zelda's Final Smash revealed, but who cares about that. This is MUCH better:

Nintendo accidentally confirms Lucario, Ness, Jigglypuff for Brawl - Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/21/nintendo-accidentally-confirms-lucario-ness-jigglypuff-for-bra/)

Where was that list of unlockable characters someone posted that was probably fake? Didn't it have Lucario on it?
people have been saying Lucario for a long time though, just because it's so popular and has some moves that could easily fit into the game. Of course, if this is true, the fact that the pokemon sticker has all pokemon and the trainer listed, and not mewtwo... well it can also deconfirm mewtwo then.

THE JACKEL

[Skyblade]

Yay! The other half of team puffball is confirmed! I still have doubts about Ness though. I mean, why'd they give Lucas all his moves and say no clones if Ness is going to be in the game? If they remove all of Ness's signature moves (especially PK Thunder), people will be unhappy.

[Northcrest]

Well we have 10 days till Brawl comes out in Japan anyway. Hopefully by then everything will be out and then we can just wait for the game to come out in America. The way it sounds like though there is gonna be a bunch of characters.

[Evastio]

I'm really glad Ness is back. I knew that even if they gave Lucas most of his Special Moves there's no way they could remove him. Although this might mean there's no other Earthbound/Mother characters having Ness back and one new Earthbound/Mother character makes me happy enough. :D

Jigglypuff is nice to see back as well although there's nothing that was revealed to make anyone doubt her return. (Seriously, it's a her. Jigglypuff has a 75% chance of being female and a 25% chance of being male. Check any Pokemon site if you don't believe me.)

Lucario, I'm extremely happy about. It's really good to know they aren't just focusing on 1st Generation Pokemon (which are way too overrated). Not much people know about this extremely cool looking Pokemon because of the 1st Generation Pokemon's overratedness. I really look forward to seeing his moves and how strong and fast he is. :D


Of course, if this is true, the fact that the pokemon sticker has all pokemon and the trainer listed, and not mewtwo... well it can also deconfirm mewtwo then.
Still in love with the idea of veteran characters not making it back in?

[ljkkjlcm9]

Of course, if this is true, the fact that the pokemon sticker has all pokemon and the trainer listed, and not mewtwo... well it can also deconfirm mewtwo then.
Still in love with the idea of veteran characters not making it back in?

Look, I'm not in love with the fact... I want Mewtwo back, I was the only person in my group of friends that could even use him well. The fact is, they said things such as no clones. I would love every character to come back, but it just seems doubtful that they all will.

THE JACKEL

[NeoCracker]

Yay! The other half of team puffball is confirmed! I still have doubts about Ness though. I mean, why'd they give Lucas all his moves and say no clones if Ness is going to be in the game? If they remove all of Ness's signature moves (especially PK Thunder), people will be unhappy.

Have you ever even played earthbound? PK Fire and PK Lighting weren't even Ness's move to begin with. XP (WEll, he may have had lighting, memories a bit fuzzy there. But I believe Rockin' and Flash were his only two offensive.)

Perhaps they will be replaced with his actual moves. Like PK Rockin. That should be his Final Smash.

Really though, if He's not an altered clone, I'm not sure what Ness would do to be honest. Maybe He'll get more focus on the Yo Yo for his attacks?

[.:kerrod:.]

Of course, if this is true, the fact that the pokemon sticker has all pokemon and the trainer listed, and not mewtwo... well it can also deconfirm mewtwo then.
Still in love with the idea of veteran characters not making it back in?

Look, I'm not in love with the fact... I want Mewtwo back, I was the only person in my group of friends that could even use him well. The fact is, they said things such as no clones. I would love every character to come back, but it just seems doubtful that they all will.

THE JACKAL

I know, i want mewtwo back as well, i was also the only one in my group good enough to play as him :( he's so original and powerful :( i will be hugely disappointed if mewtwo doesnt make it (and by the sounds of it, he's not going to) Lucario will be an awesome addition, but mewtwo is just...good, provided a challenge, trying to use him, had the best method of movement and item utilizing :( please bring mewtwo back

[Creeping Shadow]

I never really liked ness but for me somehow its good to see him back.

[.:kerrod:.]

I never really liked ness but for me somehow its good to see him back.

yeah, at first i used to HATE him cos his sucked @$$...i actually used to set it up as me against 3 other Ness...es (plural of Ness? :p) so i could beat the hell out of those *something you get when you lean against a cactus, starts with 'P' ;) * :tongue: but once i learned how powerful his PK Thunder was (when used correctly) i started using him a bit...if Ness was gone, and replaced by Lucas, i honestly wouldnt care that much, cos Lucas isn't as bad on the eyes as Ness is :p I, personally, can't see how Ness is 'so powerful', i mean, are there some moves i dont know about?

Sidenote: what is Marth's 'Sword Dance' (or whatever it's called :confused: )...like, what does it look like...somebody mentioned he has the best way of moving with his 'Sword Something'...

[Creeping Shadow]

I never really liked ness but for me somehow its good to see him back.

yeah, at first i used to HATE him cos his sucked @$$...i actually used to set it up as me against 3 other Ness...es (plural of Ness? :p) so i could beat the hell out of those *something you get when you lean against a cactus, starts with 'P' ;) * :tongue: but once i learned how powerful his PK Thunder was (when used correctly) i started using him a bit...if Ness was gone, and replaced by Lucas, i honestly wouldnt care that much, cos Lucas isn't as bad on the eyes as Ness is :p I, personally, can't see how Ness is 'so powerful', i mean, are there some moves i dont know about?

Sidenote: what is Marth's 'Sword Dance' (or whatever it's called :confused: )...like, what does it look like...somebody mentioned he has the best way of moving with his 'Sword Something'...

Its basicly like a four hit combo move that you can do with his forward-b. It can either go in an up straight or down direction depending on which way you tilt the control stick. I use it sometimes when I play as him but most people use it as an air recovery move:fencing: :p

[.:kerrod:.]

really?! a recovery?! i didnt know you could do it upwards like that, that's pretty cool. But yeah, i know what you're talking about now, i always use it as an attack

EDIT: But how do you do it upwards? :confused: i mean, if you press upwards with 'B' you do his super jump...

[Creeping Shadow]

really?! a recovery?! i didnt know you could do it upwards like that, that's pretty cool. But yeah, i know what you're talking about now, i always use it as an attack

EDIT: But how do you do it upwards? :confused: i mean, if you press upwards with 'B' you do his super jump...

You tilt it in a diagonal angle of whichever way your facing. (sorry im really bad at explainig stuff.)

[.:kerrod:.]

haha, that's alright, i'll try it out later (btw: did i ever tell you my Super Smash Bros. Melee game fixed? video shop buffed it [in a different town, nobody would do it in mine] and now it's as good as new :D)

[Creeping Shadow]

haha, that's alright, i'll try it out later (btw: did i ever tell you my Super Smash Bros. Melee game fixed? video shop buffed it [in a different town, nobody would do it in mine] and now it's as good as new :D)

Awesome glad to hear it got fixed.:D

[Ichimonji]

Manaphy is awesome. That should make for some interesting battles!

[Ultima Shadow]

really?! a recovery?! i didnt know you could do it upwards like that, that's pretty cool. But yeah, i know what you're talking about now, i always use it as an attack

EDIT: But how do you do it upwards? :confused: i mean, if you press upwards with 'B' you do his super jump...
You can't do it to move "upwards", if that's what you're meaning. But if you only do the first slash in his Sword Dance combo, you'll move further horizontally than you'd normally do.

You can, however "slash" upwards during the second, third and fourth slash of the combo. But not during the first.

[JKTrix]

I called my Manaphy C.Ginyu.

Sakurai! You can't just copypasta a root link! Some people aren't smart enough to navigate to the page! On the Japanese site, he links directly to the page where you can get to the "Iwata Asks" segment.

Here's the link to the English one. (http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/ssbb/vol1_page1.jsp)

It starts with an apology from Iwata, then gets to the meat. This is 'volume 1', and if the one they did for Mario Galaxy (http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks_vol1_index.jsp) is any indication this should provide some good background info.

Skimming through it quickly, Sakurai has revealed what company is making Smash Brothers with him. It's not HAL, who made the last games (they're probly busy working on something else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_(Wii))), and I recall him keeping the company he's working with a secret 'til now.

Sakurai is working with Game Arts on Smash Bros Brawl. Any Lunar/Grandia fans out there?
This explains the massive upgrade to the Adventure Mode we've been seeing.

[Skyblade]

Yay! The other half of team puffball is confirmed! I still have doubts about Ness though. I mean, why'd they give Lucas all his moves and say no clones if Ness is going to be in the game? If they remove all of Ness's signature moves (especially PK Thunder), people will be unhappy.

Have you ever even played earthbound? PK Fire and PK Lighting weren't even Ness's move to begin with. XP (WEll, he may have had lighting, memories a bit fuzzy there. But I believe Rockin' and Flash were his only two offensive.)

Perhaps they will be replaced with his actual moves. Like PK Rockin. That should be his Final Smash.

Really though, if He's not an altered clone, I'm not sure what Ness would do to be honest. Maybe He'll get more focus on the Yo Yo for his attacks?

Sure, I've played Earthbound. I've also played both SSB games and know how much Ness fans enjoyed his special abilities and unique recovery moves. If they give him some of his Earthbound attacks and make him a good character, I'm happy. I still think that some people are going to be upset about how much he's going to be reworked.

[Monol]

Of course we'll be upset but we'll DEFINATLY get over it. It'll be fun to play ness with a new flavor this time around. I barely played him much in the first game (Actually i only used yoshi :p ) but in the second game hes one my five best characters. I feel lucas is more deserving for the revamped techniques ness used to have so its not a total loss. Im just pleased ness is back. Still being skeptical about marth though (sorry evastio ;) ).

Oh and .:kerrod:. you can also use the dancing blade to "meteor attack" (which means to spike in melee terminology). As ultima shadow said you cant alter the position of the attack on the first "swing" but for marth if you hold down on the third "swing" near the ledge it will meteor your opponet (for roy you hold up on his third "swing"). Its not exactly the most reliable edgeguard but its the argubally the flashiest kill marths got!

Besides the legendary reverse dolphin slash :p.

[KentaRawr!]

What? My eyes! The video does nothing! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VxrQiCz4_o)

Apparently it was a video posted on 2chan through a members only video page, and the video was taken on a cell phone. I normally don't concentrate on rumors, so I don't know exactly where the video would be taken if anywhere. But there's also this funky little picture which is apparently of the same thing in the video, though I had assumed one had merely made a fake picture and put it on their T.V. (http://www.brawlcentral.com/images/news/2008_01_22(2).jpg) I'm confused. :eep:

Edit: Oh, yeah. Video of person choosing character. Picture of starting roster, allegedly.

[JKTrix]

1000 get.

There's a lot of interesting stuff in that 'Ask Iwata' link I posted earlier. I hope they'll be talking about somethine else at GDC.