FF7 Neo Riddles

[Mo-Nercy]

The Cover materia found in the church where you first meet Aeris.

If this is the answer Karifean can have a go at it, I like being on the guessing side of the riddles.
Then I guess Karifean is up, because you're absolutely correct! :D

Well, not absolutely. It's actually outside her house, but seeing as it was a pretty easy riddle, someone else would've got it soon enough anyway.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The last post was more then 3 days ago - for me it is only 2 more days before a week has passed. I'll post a riddle if Karifean doesn't wish to go.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Anyone planing a riddle, if not give me time and I will get one ready.

[Khimbar2775]

uhm, im not... i vote go for it and bump the thread :)

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Give me a bit.

Edit:
Here's my riddle.

A kunteki of the Lunar creatures,
Whom unari at their mother.
Who am I?

[Khimbar2775]

wait, what? that all seems greek to me. and i dont know greek. shot in the dark: baddies found in the cave of the gi behind cosmo canyon?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Not quite. It's a monster, yes. But in a very different location. Try looking at the italic words..... I'll translate them after 5 more guesses.

[BG-57]

I'm going with Jumping. The reason being 'lunar creature' may refer to the rabbit of the moon.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

*Laughs out loud*

That's not the creature, BG-57, that is being referred to. Also is Jumping a monster? If so, that's the wrong one.

[MrSchpagge]

Did some research: Kunteki = master; Unari = growl

I could be wrong about the translation, but going off of this I'm going to say Gigas.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

*sing song voice* It's not Gigas. *ends sing song voice* But your translations are correct.

PS: Gigas means giant in Greek, the term is usually for males giants.

[MrSchpagge]

Lunar is capitalized, does that mean it's refferring to the Lunar series?

If that's the case I'm going to say the Black/Dark Dragon.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Uh, how is the Lunar series linked to FF7? But that's not the answer at all.

[Karifean]

Edit: Ah, misread, sry.

[MrSchpagge]

Uh, how is the Lunar series linked to FF7? But that's not the answer at all.

Lunar is capitalized, which means it's either being used a proper noun or it's a typo.

The Black Dragon from the Lunar series is the only enemy I could think of that shows up in FF7; there's the link. =P

Anyway, my next guess is Jenova.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah, I capitalized Lunar for no reason what so ever. And it's not Jenova either.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Been a bit, so here's the riddle reposted.

A kunteki of the Lunar creatures,
Whom unari at their mother.
Who am I?

Think about this: The answer could be considered a kunteki of this? This could help you a bit.

[pyrefly maiden]

uh Vincent?

[Khimbar2775]

the turks

[Aqua]

The Weapons ( the monster weapons not swords) Idk :P

[Shinwa Tsuki]

It's not a Turk member - present or past.

It should help that you know that kunteki means master in Japanese.

[Khimbar2775]

or by not using japanese at all :P

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I'd rather use Japanese, when I can. I'll be editing my previous post for grammar&spelling mistakes.

[MrSchpagge]

Sephiroth?

His clones could be considered lunar creatures, seeing as how their "mother" is an alien life form.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Nope!

Uh, try figuring out what Lunar creatures unari at their mother.

[Kyros]

bugenheigen or w/e old floaty ball man's name was

[Melissaur]

Nanaki? Sense he's a wolf he growls

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Uh, it not Nanaki/Red but the wolf is the creature I'm referring to.

Now, can anyone figure out what or who the kunteki is?

[Carl the Llama]

The translated riddle.

A Master/Guide/Teacher of the Lunar creatures,
Whom groan/roar/howl/growl/bellow/sough at their mother.
Who am I?

So we are looking for a master of wolf's who growls at their mother... not sure who that could be... seeing as Nanaki has already been guessed, I am all out of idea's.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

A few more guesses and I'll give a hint, as to what it is.

[Melissaur]

Is it Seto, Nanaki's father?

[MrSchpagge]

Damn, that was my next guess. Oh well. =/

What about the King Behemoth?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Well.... It's a monster that's for certain.

[MrSchpagge]

Bandersnatch is the last wolf-thing I can think of.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Hint: on a train.

Sorry, but I'm not giving much more then that at the moment.

[MrSchpagge]

Wow, I was way off.

If no one get's it in a few posts I'll go.

[BG-57]

Wolfmeister. Fought on the runaway train.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

That is correct, BG-57! It is the Wolfmeister, wolves howl at the moon, and werewolves would consider the moon to be their mother. Meister means master in, uh, I forget which language.

[Khimbar2775]

german :P

[BG-57]

Odd, I did a riddle on this guy once. Completely forgot about him though. :p

Looks really painful
Like the gag arrows
But it must work
On selling to Davey

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Hmm...

Looks really painful - spikes?
Like the gag arrows - again, spikes?
But it must work - cannot fail?
On selling to Davey - Davey Jones?

No guess, just wondering. BG, you're riddles are always so far for me. I gotta stop thinking so inside the box with you.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah, yes. Meister could be German, but I think it is in many languages.

*laughs a bit* Is that so BG-57?

Could 'gag arrows' be referring to something in our world or theirs (FF7)?

[BG-57]

FFIX Choco Boy,

Yes, line 4 refers to Davey Jones. Not spikes, but something sharp is involved.

Shinwa Tsuki,

It was originally German, but it has spread into other languages.

Gag arrow refers to our world.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah, okay.

Do the gag arrows refer to the 'arrow through the head' gag? As that's the only thing I can find.

[Khimbar2775]

kinda makes me think of the scene where cloud runs sephy through with his sword, which then turns to sephy running cloud through HIS sword. oh, the irony...

[BG-57]

Shinwa Tsuki,

Yes.

Khimbar2775,

Nope.

[Mr Twisticles]

I may be completely off...
Seto?

Wow, people reply fast!

[Khimbar2775]

palmer? something about the gag arrow thing makes me think of palmer, especialy at rocket town...

[BG-57]

Mr Twisticles,

Not Seto.

Khimbar2775,

Not Palmer either.

Repost:

Looks really painful
Like the gag arrows
But it must work
On selling to Davey

[Khimbar2775]

does referring to davey jones relate to the crashed gelinka? isnt there a materia that you find in the hangar next to a downed chopper? its been *years* since ive played this game btw....

[BG-57]

No, not the Gelinka. It's more to do with Davey Jones than his "locker".

[Melissaur]

Ghost ship? like the move where he knocks one of your people out of battle?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Doesn't "Davy Jones" refer to the ocean depth?

If that's so, I have to wonder if the answer is linked to the submarine mini-quest?

[BG-57]

Not Ghost Ship.

Nothing to do with submarines.

Davey Jones' Locker is indeed a nickname for the depth's of the ocean (actually 'Davey Jones' is a nickname for the Devil, like 'Old Scratch'). However I already said it wasn't the locker.

Think of people that would use that term.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah, didn't know that.

Pirates are the ones who say "Davey Jones' Locker", if I'm not mistaken. And pirates are thieves on the seas.

[BG-57]

Yes, so the answer is related to pirates.

[Melissaur]

the only pirate looking guys are the enemys that steal you stuff in the prison

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Hm, pirates and the 'arrow through the head' gag.... I'm a bit lost.

Does the gag arrow related to looks painful but is harmless? Or to the answer being a joke or prank in some fashion?

[BG-57]

the only pirate looking guys are the enemys that steal you stuff in the prison

Not those guys.


Hm, pirates and the 'arrow through the head' gag.... I'm a bit lost.

Does the gag arrow related to looks painful but is harmless? Or to the answer being a joke or prank in some fashion?

It's not a gag, but it might inspire that reaction if you thought it was real.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah. I'm out of ideas right now.

[MrSchpagge]

Red XIII in the sailor suit?

It's a stretch, but someone has to say something.

[BG-57]

It's not a character.

Repost:

Looks really painful
Like the gag arrows
But it must work
On selling to Davey

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Anything to do with the Ghost Ship?

[BG-57]

Nope.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Dang!

Some that looks painful but is really harmless. And it's related to pirates....

Is it an item?

[Melissaur]

I really have nothing for this riddle

[Carl the Llama]

Unlikely I know but is it the monster that you can encounter with the thief's that heals you before dieing in the place below the gold saucer?

[BG-57]

It's not a monster/enemy.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Care to give a hint?

[BG-57]

Certainly. :)

It's connected to a specific location.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

It might have something to do with the Underwater Reactor.....

[BG-57]

No, but you're getting close.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Uh, the Underwater Tunnel?

I know it has to be underwater something...

[BG-57]

No, keep going.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Is it the Marine enemy on the Shinra Boat?

[Carl the Llama]

Is it the Marine enemy on the Shinra Boat?


It's not a monster/enemy.

[BG-57]

You're going out to sea. Try going ashore.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah, yes, it's not a monster - totally forgot about that. Going ashore....

So the sea connection must be in our world.

[BG-57]

Once you get the location, the rest should be easier.

[Khimbar2775]

the gas chamber in junon that contained tifa until the WEAPON blew a hole in the room?

[BG-57]

No, although you're right about Junon.

[Carl the Llama]

Cloud being beaten up by Heidigger?

[Hollycat]

The cat fight between Scarlet and Tifa

[BG-57]

No to both.

[Melissaur]

Canon? its a place, in junon, and pirates usually have it?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The canon is also called the Scarlet Ray.... I'm thinking the submarine mini-game for some odd reason.

[Hollycat]

in my game its called the sister ray

[BG-57]

It's not the Sister Ray cannon.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The submarine mini-game, it starts at Junon. But I take it that's not correct. I think it may be Mr. Dolphin - the aquatic friend of Priscilla.

[BG-57]

No to both. The answer is found inside Junon proper.

[Hollycat]

It's not a character.

Repost:

Looks really painful
Like the gag arrows
But it must work
On selling to Davey

Is davey the shop keeper who has to hire girls who lure in buyers to sell stuff in junon, but the action just costs him money?

[BG-57]

No, but you're very close.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah. Well, I'm out of ideas.

[musenji]

That's what brainstorming is for! Okay so here's what we know, condensed into one nice neat post (I've not included the incorrect guesses so far because the hints here eliminate them all):


Looks really painful
Like the gag arrows
But it must work
On selling to Davey


-found inside Junon proper.
-not a character.
-not a monster/enemy.
-the answer is related to pirates
-nothing to do with the ghost ship
-something sharp is involved, but not spikes


"Is davey the shop keeper who has to hire girls who lure in buyers to sell stuff in junon, but the action just costs him money?"

"No, but you're very close."


Line 2 refers to the 'arrow through the head' gag. The answer isn't a gag, "but it might inspire that reaction if you thought it was real."


I'm off to Junon, to search out the answer!

[edit]...Well, I watched a let's play and didn't see anything there, and I'm playing through the game now. It'll be a little bit before I get there.

[Hollycat]

wasn't there a guy in junon who has fake weapons?

[BG-57]

It's found in one of the weapon shops.

[musenji]

It's the poster of a skull and bones with a sword through the head, in the accessory shop in Junon.

The first two lines, then, are obvious. The last two are worded in a very tricky way. He means that the poster, having a skull and bones, works for the purpose of advertising to pirates. (And the sword through the skull says "ARRR! These be deadly useful items we sell.")

How long do solvers get to post new riddles? It used to be 48 hours but I figure that may well have changed...

I've looked through the thread a little bit, BG...looks like the answers have become a little more obscure on average since the older days. :D

[BG-57]

Correct! Your go. :)

We can wait for a while so long as you make it clear you are going to post one.

I know, but some of that is due to the fact that we've had hundreds of riddles over the years and the more obvious ones have already been covered and I don't like repeating myself.

I do give hints, so hopefully it's not impossible. :p

[musenji]

Yeah, I figured over time it's bound to happen. Either answers have to be more obscure, or riddles have to be more tricky. Depending on turnover of course. I could probably post one from a few years back and it would do fine...but I like writing them, so.

I'm gonna stick with the death theme. Seems cheery enough. :D

*****

Like heiroglyphs from old Egyptian days,
the "teller" is gone but the story stays:
Pharaohs to heaven must pay a great fare
with riches they often postmortemly wear.
Or, if that reading is quite incorrect,
and the item in question was meant to protect,
well clearly the wearer neglected to stay,
so perhaps we conclude 'twas a curse either way.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

White/Holy Materia?

[musenji]

No but that's an excellent guess.

The first line is literal.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The murals painted on the walls in the room you find the Black Materia in, inside the Temple of the Ancients?

[musenji]

Line one doesn't refer to actual heiroglyphs--just something like heiroglyphs. You've got the right idea though.

Bonus hint, the answer has nothing to do with any of the Ancients.

[BG-57]

Is it the Combat Square where the floor is inscribed with something like: 'The Brave do not Fear the Grave'?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The tattoos on the failed Sephy clones? It's a little out of the box, but it can apply really well.

[musenji]

Neither of those.

Repost:

Like heiroglyphs from old Egyptian days,
the "teller" is gone but the story stays:
Pharaohs to heaven must pay a great fare
with riches they often postmortemly wear.
Or, if that reading is quite incorrect,
and the item in question was meant to protect,
well clearly the wearer neglected to stay,
so perhaps we conclude 'twas a curse either way.

Hints (updated):

-the first line is literal but does not refer to actual heiroglyphs--only something like them
-nothing to do with the main plotline

Guesses:

murals in the black materia room
white materia
combat square floor
reunion tattoos

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Anything to do with the Black Materia?

Edit: Gahh, posted a bit too late for that.

How about the four hidden special Materia which can only be obtained with a Chocobo?

[musenji]

Nope, but if you give a bit of the reasoning behind the guess, I can give a hint to steer a bit in the right direction!

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The four Materia (Knights of the Round, Quadra Magic, HP <-> MP, and Mime (or is that Mimic)) I am speaking are similar to hieroglyphs.... At least in some respect.... Or I'm just being a doofus/dimwit.

I guess a better question would be: Is it part of the background or something the player can pick up?

[musenji]

Part of the background. :)

Bonus hint (I'm trying to keep this moving along): by "like heiroglyphs" I mean "the answer's in a picture".

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I think I remember some writing on the walls in the Crashed Gelnika. Anything to do with that?

[musenji]

Nope, the answer is in an actual picture. There are words with it, but they're not important--what matters is the picture itself.

Bonus hint, the answer is on the first continent.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The Loveless posters?

[musenji]

Nope...there are a couple hints in the riddle as to what you should be looking for in the picture.

[Melissaur]

turtle paradise?

[musenji]

"Nope, the answer is in an actual picture. There are words with it, but they're not important--what matters is the picture itself.

Bonus hint, the answer is on the first continent."

I'm guessing you missed that post by me. :) Turtle paradise posters do not have a picture--and even if they did, the text is what matters on those.

[Melissaur]

The picture in the Inn in Nebilheim?

[musenji]

No, Nibelheim isn't on the first continent...

[Melissaur]

YES... oh wait... NVM I've played it too many times it's all a big blur. I was thinking first disk xDD

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Somewhere in Midgar?

Better question: Is it the player's POV? Or the character's POV?

[musenji]

Repost (with updated hints):

Like heiroglyphs from old Egyptian days,
the "teller" is gone but the story stays:
Pharaohs to heaven must pay a great fare
with riches they often postmortemly wear.
Or, if that reading is quite incorrect,
and the item in question was meant to protect,
well clearly the wearer neglected to stay,
so perhaps we conclude 'twas a curse either way.

-the answer is in a picture, part of the background in the game
-on the first continent but not in Midgar
-the answer/picture has nothing to do with the plotline

I'd say try to ascertain what the riddle is trying to talk about, even if you don't know where to find it. Lines 4, 6, and 7 are pretty key.

[Melissaur]

Well if I have this correct Other than Midgar there is Kalm, Chocobo Farm, Fort Condor, and Junon left. I'm doubting it's at the Chocobo farm. The hint "the answer/picture has nothing to do with the plotline" makes me want to say it's in Fort Condor because that place is optional, but I don't recall anything that would fit the riddle there. Which leads me to believe it's in one of the houses at Kalm, and that's all I've got so far....

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Mithril Caves are also on 1st continent, and depending on the way you look at it, Old Nibelheim and Old Mount Nibel could be considered on the 1st continent.

[Kyros]

meteor

[Shinwa Tsuki]

An armor of some sort? No, I think it's something related to armor. And I have a hunch that it is something worn after death.

[musenji]

Meteor relates to the plotline, and isn't referred to on the first continent at all.

K I'll specify: the picture is something created by an NPC in the game.

It does have something to do with an item worn after death--in the picture.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Mmm, that leaves locations with a population, such as Kalm, to be the city or town which the answer is in. I wonder if the NPC and the picture in question can be viewed before or after Aeris dies.....

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I vaguely recall a picture of dogtags in Junon, I think. Could that possibly be it?

[musenji]

Nope, not dogtags. The thing in the picture is clearly dead but still wearing the item.

I really think BG should take a crack at this... heh heh heh...

[BG-57]

Is it the model of Midgar in the glass pyramid in the Kalm store?

[musenji]

Nope, as mentioned (though not said quite so explicitly until now) the (in-game, two dimensional) picture is of a clearly dead person, still wearing some sort of item--and the item could be construed (as far as we know from the picture) as either decorative, or protective.

This is the sum total of the information that could be gleaned from the riddle itself.

Plus, there's a specific reason why you ought to know the answer. I wasn't talking necessarily about skill as a guesser (though of course you're a good one)--I mean to say: I know for a fact you have seen the picture. :)

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Doubt is armor, a ribbon perhaps - no that not it either.... Doubt is materia..... Have a good reason to doubt Zack (when would you see that picture anyway?)....

Hmm, I'm a bit lost. Maybe water of some sort *looks puzzled*

[musenji]

The item in the picture is not an item that any of the characters can wear. It's just in the picture. Sorry if that was implied, my bad.

Hint: the answer is found in Junon proper.

[BG-57]

Sneaky devil. :radred:

It's the accessory pendant worn by the skull with the sword through its head mentioned in the previous riddle.

[musenji]

Yep. I wanted to illustrate that there's so much potential for riddles that the same answer (pretty much) could be riddled about in totally different ways.

Also, yeah, with the joke-making. :)

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Oh, wow! No wonder I was a bit lost, haven't played the game in a while.

[BG-57]

So is this really food?
Take my slice, please
At least it can help
With the cooking part

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Seems to be either an enemy or an item.... Maybe the Ceasar monster - looks like Ceaser (as in the salad dressing). Or am I off course?

[musenji]

Are we still allowed to post logic help without guessing? I have ideas but no guess.

"slice" could be pie, pizza, OH! Hmmmmmmmm.....Barret referred to the upper sectors of Midgar as that "$^%@! floating pizza". Slice could refer to a sector, then. But nobody ever offers anybody else a sector of Midgar, ha. could refer to reactors, one per slice, and they work together to feed the sister ray which "cooks" stuff.

I don't actually think that's it. I think I'm way off with where I went with that...but it's a line of thought.

slice could also refer to the action of slicing.

I have this vague idea that it's about an NPC giving you something that they find useless. ...I don't think I've said anything here that obligates you as a riddler to respond. Just throwing ideas out there.

Also your riddles sound like four-line haiku. hahah

[BG-57]

Seems to be either an enemy or an item.... Maybe the Ceasar monster - looks like Ceaser (as in the salad dressing). Or am I off course?

It's not the Ceasar monster.


Are we still allowed to post logic help without guessing? I have ideas but no guess.

"slice" could be pie, pizza, OH! Hmmmmmmmm.....Barret referred to the upper sectors of Midgar as that "$^%@! floating pizza". Slice could refer to a sector, then. But nobody ever offers anybody else a sector of Midgar, ha. could refer to reactors, one per slice, and they work together to feed the sister ray which "cooks" stuff.

I don't actually think that's it. I think I'm way off with where I went with that...but it's a line of thought.

slice could also refer to the action of slicing.

I have this vague idea that it's about an NPC giving you something that they find useless. ...I don't think I've said anything here that obligates you as a riddler to respond. Just throwing ideas out there.

Also your riddles sound like four-line haiku. hahah

It's not Barret's analogy of Midgar.

Maybe they do because the lines don't rhyme and I try to keep each line a similar length.

[Rantz]

Might it be the Hedgehog Pie? The reasoning should be fairly obvious, but it does use Fire which could be what the second half refers to.

[BG-57]

Yep. Your go. :)

[Rantz]

Would-be small scale vandalism
At times has large scale impact
Black pawn attacks not black king
But may abet the white foray

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Would-be small scale vandalism - uh, graffiti maybe
At times has large scale impact - some graffiti has a large impact
Black pawn attacks not black king - something related to chess? Or movement?
But may abet the white foray - Again the white foray could be linked to chess. But what is a foray?

[Rantz]

Vandalism does not refer to graffiti. A foray would be an attack or raid in this context.

[Khimbar2775]

AVALANCHE? theres a black dude heading it up, but the Man in the Black Cape is the one that kills Prez Shinra

[Rantz]

Not AVALANCHE. You may want to think more metaphorically about black and white.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Anything to do with good & evil? As in Cetra vs. Jenova?

[Rantz]

Yes, white and black refers to good and evil in a sense. Not Cetra vs. Jenova, though. Nothing so absolute.

[Aerith's Knight]

I'm guessing this is an action of small resistance against Shin-Ra, but for the life of me I can't figure out who it might be.

[Rantz]

You're definitely on the right track!

[Crop]

Is it Jenova when you raid Shinra HQ in disk 1?

Would-be small scale vandalism - When she breaks out she just kills some random people
At times has large scale impact - But then kills President Shinra
Black pawn attacks not black king - She's being controlled by Sephiroth (pawn), but wouldn't attack him...I guess lol
But may abet the white foray - Opens the door when you get captured by Shinra

I don't usually like trying to solve these, because I hate coming up with my own but I got drawn into this one. On the chance I'm right, someone else kindly take my turn.

[Rantz]

I'm afraid it's not Jenova, but very nice reasoning. Keep thinking along those lines, though the small-scale vandalism is much smaller - almost meaningless in itself.

[Aerith's Knight]

Maybe the alarm when trying to get the Ultimate materia in the underwater sub area in Junon? I think it might have something to do with those materia, because that was ShinRa (pawn) striking at the king (Sephie).

I'm guessing it's one of those optional small textbox non-essential options you can make cloud do, like getting picked for Don Corneo, but then to do with ShinRa.

[Rantz]

It does have to do with ShinRa. It's not what you said, though. It's part of the main storyline and not optional.

[dunit697]

blood graffetti when on sephiroth trail?

[Hollycat]

red 13 attacking Aeris and then when barret breaks the barrier, red 13 attacking hojo

[Rantz]

Neither of those.

[Hollycat]

cosmo canyon.

[Rantz]

Not Cosmo Canyon.

[Hollycat]

are you sure its not cosmo canyon?

fine.

Weapon

[Rantz]

Pretty sure, yes! It's not Weapon, either.

[Crop]

I'm going to give it another shot, since I just got past this point in my replay of the game and I think I can link the riddle to it. It's a bit more small scale.

Is it Mayor Domino when you're infiltrating Shinra HQ?

Would-be small scale vandalism - Some books in the library are mixed up.
At times has large scale impact - Holds the key to the password that you have to give the mayor.
Black pawn attacks not black king - He's just a figurehead (pawn) for Shinra (King). He doesn't directly attack them, but...
But may abet the white foray - He does give you the keycard to get further into the HQ.

Again, on the chance I am right someone else can take my go. It's just this riddle is driving me nuts.

[Rantz]

Yes, very good! That's completely right. The mayor's small scale vandalism of misplacing books has a larger scale impact when it provides the key for Cloud and company to pass and do some serious damage.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I take it, Crop, that you like to guess more the create riddles?

If that's is the case...... Here's mine.

Doth not let thee see,
Only blood can get to me.
What you will find inside,
Is a stone of black.
But be prepared to sacrifice,
Something of value....

[Karifean]

Temple of the Ancients?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Yep! I can't understand why I've used those first two lines....

[Karifean]

Near one's home
I have a rare sharp item,
Yet if you try to find me
You have to be precise.
And if you do find me,
don't bring the hards.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The Vlakrados?

[Karifean]

Nope.

[BG-57]

Bloatfloat? Found on Mt. Corel, uses Spiky Hell when killed and drops Soft.

[Karifean]

Nope. You're close, though.

[BG-57]

Is it the Cokatolis you fight if you steal the Phoenix Downs from its nest?

[Karifean]

Nope.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Is hards referring to liquer or the spell Break (or something similar)?

[Karifean]

The line refers to an item.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Ah, okay.

[BG-57]

I'm pretty sure it refers to Soft, the antipetrification item.

Basilisks?

[Karifean]

Are there Basilisks in FF7? I don't think so.

[Wolf Kanno]

Desert Rose from Ruby Weapon?

[Melissaur]

Are there Basilisks in FF7? I don't think so.

im sure he means the midgar serpent

[BG-57]

Actually they're known as Bagrisks (http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/espmon/basilisk.shtml) (and appear near Cosmo Canyon with low leveled party) but they can drop Vagrisk Claws. I'm not sure which name is preferable, but they're clearly meant to be basilisks.

At any rate, it's clearly not them. I'm running out of pertrification related/Soft dropping monsters.

[Hollycat]

I feel like theur is an item called pointer or something that casts toad on the enamy and is dropped in fights with the toads and lizard things

[Karifean]

Nope.

[BlackAsBlood00]

so its a monster? or is it yuffie?

[Karifean]

Whoa, I completely missed BG-57's last post! Sorry about that.....
It is the Bagrisks.

Near one's home Cosmo Canyon, Nanaki's home.
I have a rare sharp item, The Vagrysk Claw, only obtainable here and through CMD GH.
Yet if you try to find me
You have to be precise. They only appear on very few places, many people don't know they exist.
And if you do find me,
don't bring the hards. Refers to "Soft" - They petrify your characters.[!] google_ad_section_end [/!]

[BG-57]

Just as well. I was out of guesses after that. :p

You must do this once
But there is no upper limit
Two pathways to follow
But one is quickly closed

[Rantz]

Chocobo racing?

[Hollycat]

stairway in shinra building.

[BG-57]

No to both.

[Khimbar2775]

temple of ancients? im reminded of the clock room

[BG-57]

Nope.

[Hollycat]

snowboarding

[BG-57]

No.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Walking through the park in Sector 5?

[BG-57]

Not that.

[Hollycat]

you are like the riddle king

[BG-57]

Thanks. I do give hints, so hopefully it's not impossible.

[Sid_Highland]

is it refering the the point in the northern crater where, your split the party, and the can only take one of two paths?

alternately is it omnislash, you must use it against sepheroth, but if you buy it in GS you can use is as welten as you want?

[BG-57]

Please, only one guess at a time.

For what it's worth, it's neither.

[^OmegaShot^]

hmmm...gaea cliffs? when cloud must keep his temperature up :)

[BG-57]

Nope.

Repost:

You must do this once
But there is no upper limit
Two pathways to follow
But one is quickly closed

[^OmegaShot^]

I know I know...one guess at the time, but could it be battle arena? You must do it once. And if i remember correctly, there is normal and hard mode, but only for a short time :p

[Hollycat]

battle zone?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Snowboarding minigame?

[BG-57]

I know I know...one guess at the time, but could it be battle arena? You must do it once. And if i remember correctly, there is normal and hard mode, but only for a short time :p

Nope.


battle zone?

No.


Snowboarding minigame?

Still no.

[Hollycat]

uh.... wall market
?

[BG-57]

Not Wall Market.

[BlackAsBlood00]

Junon?

[Jiro]

Is it the battles at Fort Condor? I'm trying to think of what else you're forced to do once... Fort Condor has an upper limit though, so perhaps not.

[Carl the Llama]

Is it the battles at Fort Condor? I'm trying to think of what else you're forced to do once... Fort Condor has an upper limit though, so perhaps not.

The first fight at Fort Condor is not mandatory, you just just walk by it without ever entering the place once.

I think the answer may be when you go through the forest that requires the Lunar harp, you only have to go through it once when you go through it the first time, but you can go through it many times after that if you so choose to do so.

[Karifean]

You have to go to Fort Condor during the Huge Materia Quest.

On Topic: Is it Mythril?

[BG-57]

Junon?

Nope.


Is it the battles at Fort Condor? I'm trying to think of what else you're forced to do once... Fort Condor has an upper limit though, so perhaps not.

Not Fort Condor.


I think the answer may be when you go through the forest that requires the Lunar harp, you only have to go through it once when you go through it the first time, but you can go through it many times after that if you so choose to do so.

Nope.


On Topic: Is it Mythril?

Not Mythril.

[Hollycat]

uh... the ....
boat ride?

[BG-57]

Not the boat ride.

Repost:

You must do this once
But there is no upper limit
Two pathways to follow
But one is quickly closed

[Hollycat]

uh.... the whole thing with how you can go to the prison once, but after the airship is gained, you lose the ability to enter MUSHROOM CARNIVAL (meh, I like that name better) from the prison and can only go from Corel



invites BG to xii riddles, where'd he go

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Quickly closed? That trows me off, I'm not certain if it is quickly closed soon after you arrive there or shortly after you leave...

[Karifean]

Catastrophe? The first two lines could refer to digging in Bone Village, and you can either get Catastrophe in Corel or through digging. If you fail to save N. Corel you can only get it through digging.

[BG-57]

uh.... the whole thing with how you can go to the prison once, but after the airship is gained, you lose the ability to enter MUSHROOM CARNIVAL (meh, I like that name better) from the prison and can only go from Corel



invites BG to xii riddles, where'd he go

Not Corel Prison.

I'll take a look, but I'm not as familiar with XII as I am with VII and VIII. :greenie:


Quickly closed? That trows me off, I'm not certain if it is quickly closed soon after you arrive there or shortly after you leave...

The quickly closed path is plot related.


Catastrophe? The first two lines could refer to digging in Bone Village, and you can either get Catastrophe in Corel or through digging. If you fail to save N. Corel you can only get it through digging.

Not Catastrophe.

[Khimbar2775]

approaching teh icicle inn?

[BG-57]

Nope.

[Hollycat]

Catastrophe? The first two lines could refer to digging in Bone Village, and you can either get Catastrophe in Corel or through digging. If you fail to save N. Corel you can only get it through digging.

Is catastrophe ultima?

[Karifean]

It's Barret's final Limit Break.

[Hollycat]

oh..
I guess ultima

[BG-57]

Not Ultima.

[Aerith's Knight]

Is it related to going back to Shinra headquarters at the return to Midgar?

[BG-57]

Nope.

Repost:

You must do this once
But there is no upper limit
Two pathways to follow
But one is quickly closed

[Melissaur]

decent into northern cave?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Running around in the Midgar subway system?

[BG-57]

decent into northern cave?

No.


Running around in the Midgar subway system?

Nope.

[Hollycat]

hes beat me

[BG-57]

Would you like a hint?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Omnislash?

[BG-57]

Not Omnislash.

[Hollycat]

I would love a hint

[BG-57]

The plot related pathway is connected to a specific character, the other pathway to a specific location.

[Hollycat]

does it have anything to do with don corneo?

[Rantz]

Could it be Da Chao mountain?

[BG-57]

It's neither.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Wutai Continent?

[Jiro]

It's not Nibelheim, is it? You visit it during the flashback, which would be the pathway closed, but can also visit it as often as you like during the game.

[BG-57]

Neither.

Repost:

You must do this once
But there is no upper limit
Two pathways to follow
But one is quickly closed .

[Hollycat]

I WILL SOLVE DIS RIDDLE IF I HAV TO PLAY 7 AGAIN

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Hey BG, can you post the hints and known incorrect guesses?

[BG-57]

How about a new hint instead?

It's not a minigame, but it can be found near many of them.

[Hollycat]

that imediatly makes me think of golden-whatever, but i thought it wasnt related? its not the gondola ride is it?

[Khimbar2775]

my thoughts flash to when you first arrive in golden saucer. youre incited to follow barret down one particular tunnel, but can choose instead to go to the speed square to chat with Dio, and *then* go to the wonder square. if you pass going to speed first, youre never able to chat with Dio about Sephy.

[BG-57]

that imediatly makes me think of golden-whatever, but i thought it wasnt related? its not the gondola ride is it?

It does involve Gold Saucer, but it's not the gondola ride.


my thoughts flash to when you first arrive in golden saucer. youre incited to follow barret down one particular tunnel, but can choose instead to go to the speed square to chat with Dio, and *then* go to the wonder square. if you pass going to speed first, youre never able to chat with Dio about Sephy.

Nothing to do with the tunnel choice.

[Hollycat]

its not the play is it... no wait, that only happens once.... OOH the hotel!

[BG-57]

Sorry, no.