That's why I think Titan is cult, but you guys just won't believe me. :( He's the most likely recruit as he has the best power to stop them. And they knew it from DAY ONE.
What do you think depressed townie is? Do you think it is something cult-related?
Hey guess what Valefor? I investigated you last night and found out that you're Insane. Things not looking good for you, isn't it? Considering I got an Insane reading from you, we will need to get rid of you, since you are a possible cult member.
No where in either of the flashes does it say what Titans role does, so no they probably didn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
I was thinking it's some sort of Jester who has to get lynched within a few days or they kill themselves, but Ifrit says he killed him, so now I'm not sure.Quote:
What do you think depressed townie is? Do you think it is something cult-related?
How convienant for you to say that right after Valefor posted. Anyway, I didn't want Bahamut to get lynched because I wanted him to be alive just in case Ifrit got a investigative role again. Valefor would have probably been the better choice and now we seem to be at bad odds right now unless I blocked the right person last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
My theory on Anima. I believe Anima was infact the Jester, but because they were not lynched like many Jester roles require to win, they became a depressed townie instead.
Halt, squad!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
Did I not give you intel that Valefor was one of the enemy at 0-yesterday-hundred hours? :tongue:
However, we must conduct some recon before we move in for the kill. We must be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that he is the leader. I think he is a strong contender for it, however, there is absolutely no harm in considering all possibilities as we do have 0-24-hundred hours before we need to engage the enemy.
Valefor will face the firing squad. It is just a matter of when.
To clarify, Anima became a depressed townie when they were killed instead of lynched.
I am going to the barracks to sleep on this. Try to consider possibilities for the enemy General. I do not believe Titan, Shiva or Carbuncle can be the leader, they all have other abilities that have been proven.
The rest of you maggots are fair game! Now drop and give me 50!
50 what?;)
You may choose to believe me or not, but I will tell you I was never recruited to the Cult.
Ahhh, hmmm, one last thing that troubles me before I go. What if Sgt. Titan has been compromised? If the cult need to trick us for just one day, this is a perfect way of going about it and stalling us. Hell if it is 6-5 it wouldn't even matter if Valefor was just a regular cult goon. 6-5 changes to 5-5 and we lose.
Hoo-ah! This will take a lot of thought.
PS: Lt. Siren: 50 kisses. :aimkiss:
What if we don't have a Cult or Mafia and the roles Death Miller and Psychologist/Psychiartist are there to make us go insane? THIS GAME IS RIGGED! :bou: Either way we are at a very scary predicament right now. I can only say that hopefully I blocked/protected right most of the time.
Here are the claims
Carbuncle - Companion
Diablos - ?
Ifrit - Melodramatic Townie
Levaiathan - ?
Odin - Vanilla Town
Phoenix - ?
Ramuh - ?
Shiva - Nexus
Siren - ?
Titan - Psychiatrist
Valefor - Hag (Apparently insane)
There's five people who haven't, to my knowledge, roleclaimed at all.
Leviathan came in at the last second to lynch Bahamut in place of Valefor. That's pretty damn fishy to me, especially if Valefor is insane. Explain Leviathan.
##Vote: Valefor
##Vote: Valefor
Just so everyone shuts up about me being fishy because I haven't claimed, I am the Beloved Princess. This may be why the original owner of the account decided not to be active.
Also, since I am a power role and haven't been recruited, I have to believe that power roles can NOT be recruited, like in other games.
Maybe they just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I said 2-3 times that I'm Vanilla Townie :p
Ramuh, did you not ready any of what I posted yesterday about Bahamut? I was suspicious of him, that's why i voted for him.
**read
Half asleep = typos
Hey, original Diablos here.
I'm just apologising for not being able to make it online for a while. I've missed a bit too much to continue, and at this rate I'll probably miss more. Imma wish goodluck to the current Diablos, as it'd be terribad for us if he died.
Yep. Terribad.
The fact you've had investigations tells me Carbuncle hasn't protected/roleblocked you every night. Your role was outed on day 1 - even if you didn't confirm or deny it, the Cult would have known and made you their number one target.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
I don't see why power roles would be immune. I think you were converted. If not the first night, then some night after that.
There's also the matter of your "investigations". Doomtrain turned up Insane, yet the Dud is believed to be a variant of the Bomb, which is town-aligned. Town-aligned means Sane apparently.
This was posted when the vote count looked like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
More and more suspicion was being thrown towards Siren. I had also voted for Siren earlier because she was the most suspicious (until Anima good lord). It was quite possible that Siren would be up on the chopping block that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Also Bahamut (who I believe is a confirmed town, as his role did exactly as he said it would) said this the same post as his vote count:
I am almost certain you're a Cultist, Titan. However, I'm not looking for any ordinary Cultist. I'm looking for the leader, and you revealed your "investigation" to save Siren. I think Siren is the Cult Leader and I think you need to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
##Vote: [M] Siren
It seems to me that Valefor and Siren would both be good people to get rid of. I think that if Siren comes up innocent, I will believe Titan, and if Siren is Cult, Titan dies the next day. Valefor has been odd to me(because of other people opinions, though) for quite a while, and I truly believe him to be cult.
So I'm just going to claim major failure on my part. This isn't good and I should've just went with killing the bird.
If [M] Titan has been turned, then if he's willing to give up [M] Valefor, we might want to consider going after [M] Siren today.
If [M] Titan hasn't been turned, well, we just got an Insane reading on whom we've been hoping as the Cult Leader.
Alternatively, he's blowing smoke up our asses to protect [M] Valefor in the confusion.
Titan should have investigated himself to see if he came up insane or not.
Also we should consider people who claimed vanilla townie before today, because it's likely that they were recruited.
Quick march! Left, left, left right left!
Colonel Ifrit back from recon duty. This business with Sgt. Titan is driving me round the bend! If, and it is a pretty big if, and I will get onto this later, our officers with power roles can be captured, he would be the first target.
The reason why I am concerned about this now is the color of Pvt. Anima's role. It was cult purple. Could it be that he used to be a depressed townie but got captured by the enemy? My only evidence to suggest that Officers can't be captured is because I haven't been. But then maybe they don't want me because of my...free nature...shall we say.
If Sgt. Titan has been compromised, I would have to say it is likely that Cpl. Valefor and Lt. Siren have been too, and of the two, Lt. Siren would be more likely to be the leader after yesterday's innocent claim.
Bah! This is FUBAR, sir!
FRIENDLY FIRE!
Just to clarify what I meant there as I missed something out, when I called attention to Anima being a possible convert, what I meant to say is that non-vanillas could well be able to be converted. Meaning anyone is fair game.
Why he decided to march against us yesterday I do not know! At ease, men.
Anima was also Jester purple. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
Some people still haven't claimed so I presume they have been turned by the Cult.
Yes, yes you should have. When I asked what are you doing I meant why the hell would you change the vote. Even if Valefor was Hag then we could have prevented another recruitment at night for sure because all night actions would have been skipped. Now is not the time to be going after small fishes. It's time to get the big one or we may end up losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
I don't see the point in me claiming Vanilla Townie when it doesn't make me any more or less suspicious. But there, just for you Carbuncle :aimkiss:
Phoenix added to the fish list.
Sweet mother of pearl!
*facepalm* Okay seriously, don't we have a cult leader to find rather than pointing fingers saying people are fishy?
##Vote: Psychotic
^All y'all are just as absurd as that vote is.
Ramuh, why is it you say that the ones who have claimed Vanilla are suspicious?
Carbuncle, why is it that just because Phoenix claimed Vanilla, you automatically say he's suspicious?
Siren, who do you think is suspicious period?
Ifrit, let's go back to my tent and I'll show you 50 Pushups :love: Alternatively, who do you think is the best candidate for cult leader thus far?
If we go after Siren, and if she does end up innocent, like a Sane person would likely be, then I think it's a waste of a lynch when we could go after Valefor, whom I confirmed as Insane. Siren is a risk to vote for. We can also confirm my role's ability to being true or not if we choose to lynch Valefor.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Diablos
##Vote: Valefor
As for me, I honestly have no feelings for any of you. I know there's cult somewhere amongst all of you but I just plain don't have any gut feelings.
Any role that is not a potentiality power role I find suspicious as of right now. Even though I have reason to doubt Titan. I am looking for a Cult Leader, I assure you Mister Leviathan.
MISS Leviathan, Carbs. Miss.:colbert:
Roleclaims
Carbuncle - Companion
Diablos - Beloved Princess
Ifrit - Melodramatic Townie
Levaiathan - Vanilla Town
Odin - Vanilla Town
Phoenix - Vanilla Town
Ramuh - ?
Shiva - Nexus
Siren - ? (Apparently Sane)
Titan - Psychiatrist
Valefor - Hag (Apparently insane)
Carbuncle, it might be beneficial to post all of the roles in the game to see whether or not they all match up. Get a feel for the layout of the game, if you understand my meaning?
Titan, please post all your investigations.
Roleclaims of the dead
Cactuar - Cheater (Note: Cactuar said Titan was a Psychologist)
Anima - Jester
Bahamut - Death Miller
Night 1: Bahamut - No Result
Night 2: Doomtrain - Insane
Night 3: Siren - Sane
Night 4: Valefor - Insane
Doomtrain still makes no sense to me.
Now Ifrit's turn.
I'm assuming yours will come after that, Carbuncle? Or are you just going to point us in the right direction? :roll2
In the last game General qwerty hosted:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Jester
Cult
I could just be clutching at straws, here, but it's something to consider.
Turn for what, Colonel Carbuncle?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
I think he wants you to post your night actions.
Night 1 - Cop - Chocobo
Night 2 - Vigilante - Bahamut
Night 3 - Doctor - Ifrit
Night 4 - Vigilante - Anima
INCOMING FIRE! GET TO THE TRENCHES! VIET-CONG!
And should you get an investigative role, who's your next target, Commander Ifrit?
Major Ifrit, Captain Leviathan! :colbert:
I honestly don't know and I can't see the point. My investigative power is Cop. Cult, even the Leader, do not show up as guilty. In fact, if you particularly care, I can get one of five roles: Cop, Doctor, Vigilante, Bulletproof, Roleblocker. I will get Vanilla if a certain something hasn't been achieved during the day phase.
Vanilla flavored Ifrit? Sounds lovely :love:
In that case, I suppose it's purely up to Titan for discoveries.
Cool role actually, Ifrit.
Because the Cult will know they can recruit them, so I think to would be beneficial to look back at those who claimed vanilla before today because they could be be a recently recruited cult.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
*nods* makes sense.
Soldiers who are vanillas could well have been compromised. But to me, they should not be our target yet. I'm reading through the thread, trying to find any shots fired that strike me as suspicious.
Ifrit has a point. We really should be looking for the leader, as his (or her) death means no more recruiting which means we have a better chance of winning.
Ah, depressed townie was the second color, but we still don't know what the color of Cult is because we might not have killed a Cult member yet unless your theory on Anima is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] IfritIn the last game General qwerty hosted:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Jester
Cult
Can't be the Cult Leader
Carbuncle
Ifrit
Titan
Shiva
That leaves
Leviathan
Diablos
Odin
Siren
Phoenix
Valefor
Ramuh
Did I miss anyone?
Dead people can't be cult leaders. :colbert:
Or maybe he's town trying to save either townie. Besides, it wasn't exactly that got me of.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] PhoenixI am almost certain you're a Cultist, Titan. However, I'm not looking for any ordinary Cultist. I'm looking for the leader, and you revealed your "investigation" to save Siren. I think Siren is the Cult Leader and I think you need to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenOr maybe he's town trying to save either townie. Besides, it wasn't exactly that got me of.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] PhoenixI am almost certain you're a Cultist, Titan. However, I'm not looking for any ordinary Cultist. I'm looking for the leader, and you revealed your "investigation" to save Siren. I think Siren is the Cult Leader and I think you need to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
Good to know I wasn't the only confused one.
Could you tell me which bit you're confused about?
Your wording. "Besides, it wasn't exactly that got me of."
I was saying that I'm pretty sure Titan calling me sane wasn't the only reason I didn't get lynched.
I'm still really entertaining the possibility that Titan is an insane psychologist. Depressive Townie, Melodramatic Townie, Hag - they all sound like they could be insane, but it would be a silly role if it registered all of them as insane wouldn't it? Then why would the dud come up insane? what makes him crazier than the rest of us? Plus seeing as some of us are suspicious of him being cult anyway, I think maybe lynching him would be the best course of action.
Well now I pretty much know for a fact that Titan is either lying or is insane himself, because I am sure I am not insane. I can't see how the 'Hag' would be insane, and I was never recruited to any cult. If Titan is insane then that means Siren is too, and he should be lynched. However I think it more plausible to believe that Titan is in fact cult and has been working against us for some time.
How many cult has he actually helped us find? Why did he investigate Siren instead of someone more plausible like Bahamut? My guess is that he investigated Siren to gain a townie's trust, or to clear one of his own cult buddies. Or, perhaps Siren was with us yesterday and was turned last night. If he ended up getting lynched (which she almost did) it would have helped 'clear' Titan and allow him to further send us to our doom.
Just ask yourself who is most likely to be recruited. I think it's obvious. He has done nothing to help us and in fact he has only hurt us, ever since Cactuar on day one!
##Vote: Titan
I also want to point out, that if I am lynched Titan has an out. I will come up as 'Hag' and he can just argue that it is another role that would come up as insane. Like 'Dud'. I should not have claimed then but I was up against it and wanted to make sure you guys knew the truth.
FORWARD MARCH! I've been scouting out the thread and I have two theories.
The Siren Theory
Lt. Siren has been playing it low key for the entire war. Hasn't even voted except once, for Cpl. Valefor - but this is crucial - only after the tie had already been broken so her vote would not count. Rather convienient.
0-Yesterday-Hundred hours, Gunnery Sergeant Ramuh was all over Lt. Siren's :bou::bou::bou::bou:. Was totally obsessed and even came up with a trap to try to get her. Yet today he has made absolutely no mention of her and instead goes after Cpl. Valefor. I think that if Lt. Siren is the leader, poor Gunny Ramuh was last night's recruit.
It is as clear as a polished M16 to me that under this scenario, the cult want Cpl. Valefor lynched. Is he one of them? Possible. Titan has obviously been forced to sign up to the cult if Lt. Siren is the leader, and I suppose it would've come around the time of his false insane claim on Pvt. Doomtrain.
Theory 2: The Valefor-Odin Alliance
I strongly suspected Cpl. Valefor yesterday of being the cult leader. I have been trying to figure out who would be his squad mates if this was true. I think the most obvious of these would be Lance Cpl. Odin.
On Day 2, Lance Cpl. Odin and Cpl. Valefor clashed, with Lance Cpl. Odin putting a vote on Cpl. Valefor and the two had a little bit of a bicker. This completely stops on Day 3. Clearly, one of them decided to recruit his foe on Night 2. Instead, Odin goes after the power roles, myself and Colonel Carbuncle, coming out with some FUBAR theory about a Mafia Cop. We all know there is no Mafia, and it would make sense for a Cultist to try to find evidence that there is.
I would also like to draw attention to Odin being low key for Day 1 and 2, and Valefor doing the exact opposite, and then on Day 3, the roles were switched.
Which of the two is the enemy General? I'm not sure, sir! *salutes*
However, judging from the sheer speed at which so much infantry has massed against Valefor, while nobody has even mentioned Odin, it stands to reason that he could well be the lower-ranked grunt taking the hit for his Officer as his fellow soldiers conduct friendly fire (although I don't think everybody who voted for Valefor is cult. Hell, I did it yesterday!), and that would be why I am worried it might be Odin instead.
Oh crap uhhhhh when I say "Odin" I mean "Lance Cpl Odin." :riiight:
And anybody who says differently gets latrine duty!
##Vote: Siren
You haven't been helpful to the town at all. Perfect candidate for cult leader, if you ask me.
Exactly. I suspected Odin for awhile now for things I have already brought up.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
I think Odin may be the leader not Valefor.
Interesting theory Ifrit. I hope you didn't spend too much time on it though, because it's wrong. :(
What makes you say that, Ramuh?
Have you seen something else that I missed? Lance Cpl. Odin is a slippery dude and hard to get a handle on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carbuncle
I have two theories, Gunnery Sergeant Ramuh! I only theorised at your conversion to the enemy camp in one of them. *salutes*Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramuh
How is it wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Although, Gunnery Sergeant Ramuh, I have to ask for your views on Lt. Siren and why you have stopped your battle with her.
Oh right, i see where ramuh was mentioned, which is why he claims it's wrong.
the whole game is made of claims. :spin:
I voted for the obtuse bird as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
I was typing my vote up while the watery snake was breaking the tie.Quote:
- but this is crucial - only after the tie had already been broken so her vote would not count. Rather convienient.
everyone has stolen my phrase :(
If [M] Ifrit fails to stay in character throughout the day, he doesn't earn his random ability? Triva aside, time to re-ready the noose. :eep:
##VOTE: [M] Valefor
Ten-hut! If you'd done it earlier, Lt. Siren, when I asked you to vote - for the good of the town, no less! - Cpl. Valefor would be KIA right now.
For the greater good.
##Unvote: Valefor
##Vote: Titan
This will answer much more. Think ahead.
Does nobody but Colonel Carbuncle have anything, anything at all, to say about Odin?
Because this is seriously making me feel ill at ease, soldiers.
I was having problems deciding between him and Bahamut. Sorry.
Lance Cpl. Odin*
bahhhhh I can't remember all the ranks I assigned to you fine military men. :lol:
What do you claim yourself to be Ramuh?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Some have to break the game to take the game. ;)
What does Siren claim to be other obviously being Cult.
Ramuh goes on the fishy list.
Who is this Odin guy anyway?
Bilge Rats
Odin
Siren
Ramuh
Phoenix
Leviathan
Diablos
Valefor
Take a look at each of them and ask yourselves which would could be the leader. Unless you are guilty then stfu.
Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Rydia, you need to update your first post by the way.
What is your claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenHuh?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
This day has had too many fishy lists and possibilities and not enough evidence.
We can't help it that we're all players who are good at avoiding traps.
I have two possibilities, Gunnery Sergeant Ramuh, with evidence to support each. I'm not sure which is right and I am looking for other people's opinions on them to help me in my decision, although I am well aware that some of those who seek to influence me are enemies. All you have said to one is that it is wrong. You have not said which is wrong, or why, nor what you think of the other.
I ought to have you court martialled :(
Reading through [M] Odin's recent posts, he hasn't contributed much in terms of hunting down scum. He seemed pretty hung up yesterday about [M] Carbuncle, whose role we're fairly certain of. I'll have to go further back to make more paranoid deductions, but he's a good bet for Cult.
You too, Captain Leviathan! It is obvious you suspect Lt. Siren so you agree with Theory 1, but what about Theory 2? Is that a possibility to you?
Come on, men! One soldier alone cannot need a war! FORWARD!
by "need" I mean "win" and I have no idea where the smurf that came from. xD Over and out.
In my book aptly titled Dealing With People You Can't Stand, we call people like Ramuh "The No Person."
See? He's trying to mentally break us :(Quote:
Originally Posted by my awesome book
Well for a start this town isn't getting anywhere until the 'confirmed' townies take a step down from lining up the non-confirmed town and deliberating which ones to pick off. Everybody on the 'fishy' list has no reason to speak because the target's on their heads only, but if we keep quiet we know Valefor will get lynched. I understand you have put facts to theories and that's pretty good, but this town is starting to develop authorities and every day you'll pick a new target and everybody else will stfu until they have to say something.
We are playing Mafia, hopelessness in others and depression is necessary. :spin:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Things that don't make sense about Titan
- His vote for Ramuh because he thought he was arrogant
- His unvote for Ramuh and then vote for Catuar because she was being a jerk
- Despite the fact that if he were the psychiatrist, he'd know that Cactuar was telling the truth and she could her in the game
- Catuar saying he was a Psychologist
- Having a serial killer and a psychiatrist yet him being able to do investigations on others
- Doomtrain coming up as a Dude yet Titan said they were insane
Ifrit, theory 2 is also possible. I find both of your theories to be equally possible. Howeverr, I have a slight bias against Siren due to the fact that she hasn't done hardly a thing to even pretend to help. Laying oh so very low is not helpful in the least and a very good reason for me to believe her to be Cult leader.
<-- Is lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Also you have about 5.5 hours until dusk if I'm not mistaken
Possible that Doomtrain simply had some gender confusion going on?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Silly person. All the people on that list cannot be fish, but one of them has to be the leader. Stop blabbing on like a fishy and get to cracking on some theories.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] LeviathanPossible that Doomtrain simply had some gender confusion going on?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Man that was my first post on day one, what good did that serve?
And I'm am happy with my vote on Titan.
- The role he claimed is not accurate to what his role should be. (heals serial killers)
- He got an insane reading on Doomtrain
- We could figure out if Valefor or Siren is guilty by lynching him.
- Initially refused to confirm he was psychologist. Could have been recruited night two and used that to his advantage.
I was thinking you could answer that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Ramuh you still haven't claimed. Confirmed roles are pro-town. You're either with us or against us.
Pvt. Cactuar was incredibly angry and pissed off with us all. What if she discovered he was the Enemy Leader, and lied to get back at us? And is laughing at us all right now?
This is all driving me insane.
Vanilla TownieQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleWhat is your claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenHuh?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
I don't wish to claim. I know that you know I'm town.
Once upon a time there was a Cultist named Odin. For days Odin was no where to be found until one day Odin decided to post and said he thought Ifrit was a Mafia Cop. Ifrit said "No" in many words. Odin then said "well then you must be townie cop" and then said he thought he was suspicious. Odin went after Ifrit with a venegance citing that Ifrit could be lying. An adorable summon named Carbuncle pointed out the flaws in Odin's statements. Odin then struck back at Carbuncle. Carbuncle added that Odin was going after me for the same thing he got on Ifrit for. Odin voted for Carbuncle. Valefor kept pointing out not to trust three "power roles". Odin unvoted for me and then I told Odin to suck it. And well all lived happily ever after. The end.
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
- You should not base what the roles should be from that flash. I was given an investigative role, not a protective role if I were to heal our serial killer, I should have turned into a Doctor then?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
- I want to say that it's possible for a few pro-town roles may end up Insane, but everyone who ended up Sane are pro-town.
- Lynching me today will almost guarantee a Cult victory, and we don't want that, and it would be too late to find whether Valefor is guilty by the next day.
- I refused because I had "No Result" on the first night, and it would serve no purpose to role-claim with nothing to back me up. I was never recruited by the Cult as well.
How would I know you're town? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Cactuar could have just as easily told the truth about Titan to get him killed during the night. Al though both possibilities could work they are just that, possibilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
- I am not basing it from the flash. I have played Mafia before and I know what that role does.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan- You should not base what the roles should be from that flash. I was given an investigative role, not a protective role if I were to heal our serial killer, I should have turned into a Doctor then?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
- I want to say that it's possible for a few pro-town roles may end up Insane, but everyone who ended up Sane are pro-town.
- Lynching me today will almost guarantee a Cult victory, and we don't want that, and it would be too late to find whether Valefor is guilty by the next day.
- I refused because I had "No Result" on the first night, and it would serve no purpose to role-claim with nothing to back me up. I was never recruited by the Cult as well.
- Doomtrain was pro-town and he didn't come up sane.
- Why? We will lynch a confirmed cult tomorrow if we lynch you. If we lynch valefor and he is innocent then it will have the same effect. Lynching you gives us a 25% chance to get cult today, and 100% tomorrow.
Sorry. I don't think you'll get lynched today anyway, but we need to get to the bottom of your sanity. Lynching you is the best way to do that. Also lynching you won't confirm a cult win because in a worst case scenario it will be 9-6
As I said I did block Titan night 2 and Titan claims to have gotten a no result night 2. This is why I believed his claim but if Titan was a Cult Leader would he know he was roleblocked? Would be get the no result?
;) oh really? Titan seems to have said night 1, not night 2.
11 in totalQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
5 possible recruits
that was in case titan was town and we lynched him.
A mistake. I meant night 1. I roleblocked/protected Ifrit night 2. Good catch fishy.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
:Oo:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
I'm going to take a nap. Everyone's pointing fingers at everyone and while it's kind of amusing because it's an absolute STALEMATE this way, it's also quite counter-productive and thus, has made me cranky. Or maybe that's just because I'm a girl that I'm cranky :roll2
Either way, have fun, back in like 2 hours.
Worse case scenario it is currently 6-5.
I don't know where you're getting your numbers from.
:lol: x 2Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan:Oo:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
No.
11-5 now.
- 1 Titan 10-5
-1 town and + 1 cult
9-6
suck my cock.
How would it be 11 - 5 when we have 11 people playing in total? Where is your maths coming from?
:spin:
That deserves a mod kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I've been re-reading the thread for [M] Odin posts, and if you're looking for Cult instead of Mafia, he looks highly probable. It should be noted he comes out with an initial vote for [M] Valefor on Day 2, and then goes on to try to sell a Mafia Cop theory on Day 3 which is by then we're certain there's no mafia. (Sidenote: [M] Leviathan is highly doubtful of a cult at this time and his posts turn out in [M] Odin's favor) Also tries to get a lot of information on [M] Ifrit's role, possibly to see how he can get around it.
He also posts a ton that day about how everyone is on his case and tries to vote for [M] Carbuncle. I disregarded [M] Carbuncle's suspicions because he suspected me too and maybe it was a lot of random finger-pointing on his part, but [M] Odin didn't like it and when he realizes we're liking [M] Doomtrain for a Cultist, he jumps on that bandwagon. He also says he has stuff to do (understandable) but then says he'll come back but might not post (why come back, maybe to do a night action)? He could've been too late to post, but in hindsight, it's susceptible.
The final nail I can draw up for this guy is when he says he suspects the Cult can't recruit power roles. I could have sworn we all had thought [M] Titan was half-compromised since he was a good Cult target. But what if he wasn't because he was a power role? [M] Odin might've tried to recruit him and got burned, or he knew the Leader tried and failed, but in either case it's SUPER suspicious because he also hints our Roleblocker (unknown at the time) protect [M] Titan because he's outed. Hints it a day late.
It'd probably be best to review every suspect as if they were the Cult Leader and see how they've been behaving.
##UNVOTE
Oh, one bonus note: [M] Odin voted for [M] Valefor on Day 2 immediately. Failed recruitment and then an attempt to neutralize a power role?
I took my rod pill.
Silly fishy.
I'm just driving you crazy to see if you'd vote me.
That won't work just take a look at Day 1. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I think I've learned that the traps don't work. Probably because I suck at them. bah.
Shiva, did I not say guilty cannot talk so why is Ramuh talking?
##Unvote: Titan
I would like Titan to investigate me tonight. I have a plan (that will actually work this time) Nothing to be afraid of because I would prefer to keep our investigative role, but I would also like to be able to be able define his sanity. He'll have to tell the truth with me, but I don't see why he wouldn't.
I was planning on investigating one of our current Vanilla Townies, except Siren, but if you want me to investigate you tonight, I can do that for you Ramuh.
First warning. Play nice Ramuh, don't post anything you wouldn't post normally.
Why bother? He voted for you earlier now suddenly he's changed his mind because "he has a plan". If you feel a person should be investigated over someone else then go with that person.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
But Rydia, I always tell people to sample my cock.
http://www.dorlingkindersley-uk.co.u...ge_farm010.jpg
He's lovely. :)
A shame you haven't investigated a power role, [M] Titan, I think that would've settle the question of your results. Doing so now might be alright, but keep your target list open until you've seen the results of today.
[M] Ramuh does smell of fish. His ploys keep failing, so he comes out like a bumbling fool. But what if he were Cult? Remember the dumb I'll-save-you-Cult-if-you-confess? He said it failed after, what, twenty minutes? They could just be ploys to make himself look better.
Will be going through other people's histories as well and trying to sense Cult.
I admit, my playing has been terrible recently. I can genuinely sort Titan's situation out though.
What on earth is Gunnery Sergeant Ramuh doing? Is he going crazy and trying to draw attention to himself rather than a leader or something? Jesus.
Okay, let me get this straight.
I am suspicious of Titan, and I thought it would be good to put pressure on him and so i voted for him and stuff as you do. I tried to spring something on Carbuncle after he made his mistake with the night he blocked Titan (just because I wanted to keep everyone on their toes) and I failed and looked like a douchebag. My aim was to see if he would snap and vote, and then I would question him why. In retrospect, it was a crappy plan.
Now there is a reason I did not roleclaim. I want to see what alignment Titan is without lynching him, so I would ask him if he could investigate me. I'm asking him to investigate me, not because I want to distract him, but because I have a plan that makes sense and that will be revealed. This isn't a big thing and I'm not trying to draw attention to myself, I'm just trying to sort this matter out but my slightly erratic behavior today has affected that badly.
I think we should continue with the day.
Also i will not see the end of the day. I think the decision would be better left to the rest of the town, because I have spent too much time on unnecessary things today. I will vote for myself because I don't have enough time to read into others to make a confident vote, but not voting is not contributing.
##Vote: Ramuh
That vote is simply because I believe everyone should always vote, but I do not have time to collect my own evidence. This is my fault. Sorry town, I'll be better tomorrow.
Ten hut! This running interference makes me think my theory about Lt. Siren is more plausible.
In fact, for now I think it will be best if:
##vote: Siren
Let's see what the effect of this is on certain soldiers :greenie:
Killing me will prove nothing.
Votecount
Siren(3): Phoenix, Leviathan, Ifrit
Valefor(2): Diablos, Titan,Ramuh,Shiva
Titan(1): Valefor,Ramuh
I am fine with both Valefor and Siren dying today, as I have said.
Wait, killing me will prove something. The fact that all but Titan are wrong about me.
I should have done this earlier yesterday, but I'll do it now before I go
##Vote: Valefor
Also, how will killing Siren not prove anything? We have 3 possibilities for Titan right now, if I am right.
1. Cult member
2. Telling the truth and town
3. Insane but town
If Siren is town, we know he is not insane, if Siren is Cult, we know Titan is not telling the truth.
For Valefor... If he is Cult we know Titan is not insane, and if he is town we know Titan is not telling the truth.
Therefore, if Siren is Town and Valefor is Town, Titan is Cult.
If Siren is Cult and Valefor is Cult, then Titan is Cult.
If Siren is Town and Valefor is Cult, then Titan is either Cult or telling the truth and town
If Siren is Cult and Valefor is Town, then Titan is either Cult or Insane but town.
Also, a problem with Titan investigating himself... If he is insane, then he should get an insane reading, but because he is insane, he will get sane. If Titan is sane, he will get sane.
Dear Ramuh,
It has come to my attention that you are old and crazy, amongst other things.Your symptoms match up with a condition known as Magibeetus. Now, I know you may be a little sensitive about this condition as it could easily be quite embarassing for old timers like you, but I assure you, there is a cure! It's called Firaga. I'm sure that if you read the informational pamphlets that I will be sending as an attachment, you will see just how helpful this could be for you.
Please consider this my way of ensuring the town's safety. I only wish for us to make it through to the end as unscathed as possible.
Your friend,
Miss Leviathan
Ofcourse a cult member would try to create such a skeavy plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
:lol: Oh, tickle me biddle witters.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Carbuncle, what about my plan? Is my plan too crazy?
Everyone has claimed except Ramuh and not sure if Diablos has yet either. Most of the bilge rats have claimed Vanilla Town.
I've said I was the Beloved Princess
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Originally Posted by Mafia Game Wiki
Carbuncle, I have asked you about my plan.
Your wording is Insane. :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Diablos
If [M] Titan's readings are accurate then a Townie reads Sane and an Anti-Town reads Insane.
If [M] Titan is a "bad" Psych, it reads oppositely. Townies are Insane and Anti-Towns are Sane.
There is no confusion as to there only being Insane results, as he's given a Sane result. So it's not all one-sided although he could just receive random results as well.
ALL OF THIS SAID, the Cult apparently cannot recruit power roles. [M] Titan is a Psych. His info might be bad, but he's supposed to be clean.
Lynching Valefor seems like the best idea. Preferably I would want to lynch someone who stands out more as a Cult Leader. But think about this. What do we really have to lose by lynching Valefor? If he is the Hag our night phase is skipped according to him about his role which is a good thing because then Cult cannot recruit and we'd still have another day to figure out who the leader is. It would be 5-5 then. If he is a Cult member then we've got rid of one and go us. 1 cult out of possibly 5 down and 5 town. It would be 5-4 then. Hmmm
Why would we have two of the same roles? Beloved Princess and Hag have similar actions?
Either [M] Rydia thought she had a great idea or [M] Diablos thought if we have one, we'd believe him about having the other.
We don't actually know if we have a Hag.
My finger pointing is never random. I pointed fingers at you because saying keep the serial killer alive and investigate me instead of a Ramuh is still an extremely scummy thing to say but makes sense now that the Nexus is explained.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Valefor no where to be found. Ramuh fishy. Odin fishy as usual. Titan confusion. Siren not helping as usual.
Pretty good summary. And I really thought the Serial Killer idea wasn't bad. It's not as if he was going to kill me. :|
Alpha squad, secure the perimeter!
Valefor is a good choice, Siren is a good choice, Odin is a good choice. I am still torn. I think Valefor is the most likely of the three to be cult - and I don't think he is a hag - but I also think he is the least likely of the three soldiers to be a General and it's the General we need, unless Carbuncle pulls off a miracle tonight.
Votecount
Siren(3): Phoenix, Leviathan, Ifrit
Valefor(3): Diablos, Titan,Ramuh,Shiva, Siren
Titan(1): Valefor,Ramuh
Ramuh (1): Ramuh
Not Voting: Carbuncle, Shiva, Odin
Is this how we're looking? :confused:
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Game opened at 10:48EST, it is now 8:08EST. ~2hrs and 40 minutes remaining.
I think Ramuh wanted to try to get me to vote for him so I wouldn't vote for the Cult Leader or he wanted to get me lynched because I can roleblock the Cult Leader. Either way, Ramuh is not to be trusted.
[M] Ramuh can be cleaned out later as long as we stop the Leader today or tonight. :)
Does anybody who has voted for Cpl. Valefor actually thinks he is the leader? I honestly don't care about finding out whether or not Sgt. Titan is to be trusted with a lynch because it is a lynch we can ill afford. We should've shot Cpl. Valefor yesterday tbh, this is a case of shutting the stable door after the horse is bolted.
I'm really worried that many of you are not seeing the bigger picture. ie, we could well lose if we don't get the leader. Frankly, I don't think Cpl. Valefor is a Hag. I think he's Cult through and through. I am just not convinced that he is the leader.
I think Valefor may be the leader. and even if he isn't, it would be better to prolong out death than to aid it.
I would think [M] Odin was the Cult Leader, but the odds of stringing him up are slim. :(
I think you are one of the few untainted townies, Captain Diablos, so I am interested to why you think Cpl. Valefor is the leader. If he isn't, well, lynching him is better than hitting one of our troops, but it's still not the optimum outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Diablos
I would be more than willing to vote for Lance Cpl. Odin.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Why would they be slim?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
In fact, in the hope of starting an offensive:
##unvote ##vote: Odin
Will switch back to Lt. Siren if it looks like Lance Cpl. Odin is nowhere near the firing squad.
##VOTE: [M] Odin
Who are you going to get to vote?
Votecount
Siren(2): Phoenix, Leviathan,Ifrit
Valefor(3): Diablos, Titan,Ramuh,Shiva, Siren
Titan(1): Valefor,Ramuh
Ramuh (1): Ramuh
Odin (2): Ifrit, Shiva
Not Voting: Carbuncle, Odin
Hopefully any soldiers who haven't been compromised and claimed as POWs will come to back us up. I doubt any cultists will join in for some bizarre reason...!
Also, you deserve a medal for the vote count. :)
Well, I'll check Odin out in a sec. I need to get the Sun Sigil in FFX first(Kill me).
I'm going to need to reread that evidence against Odin before I switch my vote, if at all.
Well, looks like Diablos won't be coming back until 5 years later.
##Vote: Odin
Staff Sgt. Phoenix, I made a pretty good post (or I like to think so, anyway) with my views on him and Valefor. Give it a read and report to your CO to tell us what you think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix
About 2 hours ago I got a 0.0.4 on my 3rd or 4th try, and I thought, "Hey, maybe this won't be as bad as I remember! Maybe I got better since then!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
I hoping the game will pity me, so I'll check out Odin while I'm waiting for my timer to max out.
So did Shiva.
I think the bold is a big thing right here. He hasn't been entirely consistent from day 1, has he? Maybe he was purposely changed a little so he could use this if he was on the chopping block?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
Oops :p
This was supposed to go above the post I just made:cool:
Actually, Odin seems like a good choice. He goes for the easy kills, he seems to be saying a lot without actually saying anything, and he has tried to prove that he is town in some odd ways, here is a quote.
I have posts against Odin as well, but agree that looking at his quotes is the best way to go about it. He is definitely a big fishy, but would he be the biggest fish? As I said I think he is more likely to big the Cult Leader than Valefor. Odin tried tried to slander Titan, Ifrit, Shiva and my name. How interesting.
unvote
##vote: odin
I've read not only your post Ifrit, but also that of Shiva and Carbuncle. It's pretty convincing.
This is especially alarming, because like Shiva says here:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Everybody seemed at least partially suspicious of Titan because he would be an obvious target for the Cult. Was there a basis for his suspicion? Other than being a Cultist, that is :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Also that bolded bit I see Diablos has quoted in my preview is concerning.
If I recall, we still have a bit of time, so I'm just going to mull it over a bit while longer. Now is not the stage to rush things.
Whoa Miss Leviathan, while there is ample evidence, could you point out why you voted? What exactly reeks of Cult to you?
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Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
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Originally Posted by [M] SirenI see two problems right now.
1.
The theory of there being no mafia isn't the only way of explaining Ifrit not dieing. After all, the mafia might have tried to kill him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
2. If the cult can recruit, what if Doomtrain isn't the recruiter? Titan, can you be recruited?
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Originally Posted by [M] Odin
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Originally Posted by [M] Diablos
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Originally Posted by [M] Odin
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Originally Posted by [M] Odin1) What happened day 2 and night 2 both can point to either that or the Mafia Cop theory. Why is it you are so sure it's the one Ifirit claims to be true? Whats tipping the scales in his favor?
2)
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Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
...Care to explain the jump in logic between those two quotes?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] IfritAnd what be yer evidence that I be a Landlubber Cop, Odin lad? That I be gettin' a serial killer lynched? Arrrr, Cap'n Ifrit be sorry about that, Odin! Next time he be gettin' a guilty result, he be keepin' it all to himself because the only people who be capable o' findin' bad guys clearly be Landlubber Cops. :greenie:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Odin
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Originally Posted by [M] Odin
You know, we could always just check Titans claim tonight and lynch Doomtrain, and have him check out Shiva tonight. Kill two birds with one stone.
If Titan dies tonight however, regardless of his role, we get Shiva tomorrow.
^ How do you people let this guy go this long without being lynched? :eep: