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el oh el. Porn kills the computer kids.
Usually my error report works (it responds), but the error report itself for my particular problem has not given me any solution to my problem, which sucks. My computer crashes because of an internet driver, but I don't think I can update the driver (no update availavle) or get a new one without causing problems.
Who couldn't love Windows...? :D
I'm not going to blame Windows for my incompetence on the computer (wait a second, who am I kidding, of course I am).
Bill stepped down. He no longer runs facisoft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé Gaelach
Use linux then, geez
No! No! I could never do that! Then I wouldn't be able to blame my computer when I screw up things really badly!Quote:
Originally Posted by stuffing
you would get laid though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé GaelachNo! No! I could never do that! Then I wouldn't be able to blame my computer when I screw up things really badly!Quote:
Originally Posted by stuffing
I wasn't even DOING anything when my computer crashed today! I got up and left for a few minutes and when I came back, my computer had crashed and restarted!
So Linux = laid?Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
And Windows = ?
PaidQuote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé GaelachSo Linux = laid?Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
And Windows = ?
windows = fap fyi
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by bipper
He's still CEO until the end of 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
I don't really hate Windows because I only use it to play games. I have a very minimal setup so if something goes wrong at least I can narrow the problem down. All my other computer use is relegated under Linux. :)
Hating microsoft is cool these days, so I will be different and like it. I also like ballet and when pens run out of ink.
He is stepping down in june of 2007. Baulmer is already taking the helm so to speak. Gates will ease out of his position ~ the transition has long since been started :)Quote:
Originally Posted by YamanekoHe's still CEO until the end of 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
I don't really hate Windows because I only use it to play games. I have a very minimal setup so if something goes wrong at least I can narrow the problem down. All my other computer use is relegated under Linux. :)
Bipper
I fell out of a window once.
I don't hate windows. I hate linux, mac, unix and most other desktop OS though. Servers are another thing all together.
I don't hate Windows. At least not Windows XP; it's the first one in years to actually work. All of the versions from 95 up until XP royally blow though. Honestly if you're running, say, Windows 98, just save yourself some time and toss your computer into the middle of the street now.
I do not hate Windows.
oh, but windows hates you. Windows hates us all :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
I have enough love in my heart to forgive. :love: :jess:
are you hitting on me?:confused:
Windows works just fine, it just happens to be cool to bitch about it. Much like it's cool to complain about Internet Explorer, champion alternative low-budget computing methods, and make in-jokes relating to CK's and CK's only.
This is what I mean when I say I don't hate windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22
I have a feeling Vista will bring the hate out because of DRM and [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img].
Microsoft+Xbox+PC+gaming monopoly= very sad world.:(
Well IE does actually suck pretty hard next to Firefox/Opera/A drunk hobo with a biro and a notepad.
And have any of you Windows lubbers given linux a decent try? It is ok if you love it; as long as you claim ignorance to linux!
Windows has always worked fine for me, so I actually like it quite a bit... But if my computer crashes at some point I'd probably be the first to complain about Windows, though :rolleyes:
I'm going to have a linux box, once I get a new box that is, because it's a better bet for non-gaming stuff. Although I hear good things about WINE, but I don't want to install Linux and then discover those good things were lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
Point is: I know what I'm talking about.
Linux is annoying if you're not willing to do command line work. That applies to most people and I don't blame them.
Mac > Windows
You heard...
I have. Linux is a nice operating system (in my case, specifically, Suse Linux :tongue:). The only major problems I have with Linux is the shell commands and the bootloaders. I've had enough DOS commands to last a lifetime; I don't want to have to learn another mountain of Linux commands.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
Plus, the bootloaders suck - both Grub and Lilo. At least with Windows you can modify the bootloaders easily with the Boot.ini file. If you use a Linux bootloader then you're stuck with it for life - even if you remove Linux from your system.
For me, nothing beats Windows. :)
I have used Red Hat and Suse. I stand by their suckiness for reasons explained by others already.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
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Originally Posted by Magus of Zeal
Lol. I really ike the second one. Very true.
Redhat's the sucky of the linux bunch though :p You should try Ubuntu for evaluating linux for a desktop user :p
Yes I hate windows! Bringing in sunlight! PURE EVIL!
Ubuntu is the most evil OS ever created. No, seriously. I'd rather gouge my eyes out and swallow them than use that rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by cl_out
Wow... are you sure have you tasted your eyes lately, late me tell you not very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé GaelachUbuntu is the most evil OS ever created. No, seriously. I'd rather gouge my eyes out and swallow them than use that rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by cl_out
I like windows, it lets me go on the computer.
Mac < Everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreddz
Dreddz is the original Mac fanboy. Really. Macs have problems too.
That's why you turn error reporting off. We wouldn't want to give microsoft an unfair advantage, now would we?
Agreed it can't run anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
That's part of what keeps me from getting other people to adopt it. It's a shame, too, because it's people who just can't keep themselves out of trouble on Windows, so I'm fixing their computer every couple o f months as a result of them using it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamaneko
Actually, you aren't. It's relatively painless to remove it, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé Gaelach
I dislike Windows on principle that it's really expensive. Like, $100 for a license that I can only use across three computers, and then I have to buy a new copy. My old Win98SE CD (OEM, at that) let me install unlimited times on unlimited computers. Their licensing scheme just seems a little ridiculous, even though it's in attempt to stop piracy - but really, if I knew I could buy a license and not have it worthless after three installs, I would get a real copy. It's just not economic for me at the current license model.
That's seriously like 2/3s of why I try to use Linux.
Believe me, I tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hsu
Windows is pretty good. I've never had any heavily upsetting problems with it.
GEM Desktop is Where It's At, though. (mostly due to nostalgic reasons)
I still don't understand how people manage to crash their windows installations all the time.
It degrades under normal usage. People are not to blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
I hate when I forget that the windows are open and it rains. Then everything gets all wet. :(
What's so hard about "fixmbr" using the Windows repair command line?Quote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé Gaelach
Oh, and GRUB is much more powerful than the Windows bootloader. I never have any problems editing menu.lst after a kernel compile.
clout I believe was making reference to the RPM-centric environment of Redhat. RPMs are terrible for package management compared to .deb.
I think I've just been owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamaneko
It's not a Linux problem. By default GRUB writes itself to the master boot record. fixmbr just rewrites the mbr with the Windows installation. It's also possible to boot straight into Linux without GRUB.
Yast is terrible.
My audio occaisonally vanishes until I restart my laptop or I put it in Stand By...
My favorite is the fact that it breaks the file system via its dirty mount/unmount systems. Litterally; it is self destructive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr UnneIt degrades under normal usage. People are not to blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
Mac OSX is prolly one of the greatest user friendly computers out there.
Ubunto sucks, I must say. I was horribly let down. It is easy, but its a bit ished up as well. I would rather go red hat, even though red hat sucks too.
The beutiful thing is, when I say linux, I am talking the OS, not the distros plumb full of shattily assemebled open source software, but a more carefully implimented Distro like Slackaware, or from scratch.
And since when are you stuck with Grub or Lilo w/o config? I don't ever really use grub to any other degree than install, but I know you can do a ton of configuration post install with lilo.
Bipper
Suse Linux was the first distribution that I installed on my PC. I didn't want to muck about too much with the settings during install, so I just chose the defaults for pretty much everything (except partitions).Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
The problem was that Yast wouldn't configure it. It just wouldn't write to the boot loader, it would always freeze.
On the topic of bootloaders, you can use the Windows bootloader NTLDR and add a menu option to boot Linux. But you have to use dd to dump a raw image of your Linux boot sector and store it as a file on your Windows partition, because the Windows boot loader is too stupid to read ext3 / reiserfs partitions, let alone know how to boot an OS from one. This method doesn't require modifying your MBR at all and it's very easy to uninstall. Not that "fdisk /mbr" is hard though.
That describes my current setup exactly. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr Unne
On the topic of distros, the one main thing I strongly dislike about Ubuntu us the lack of the root account by default. I want to run su once, not use sudo all the time. :mad2:
Geeze Louise, if you really hate Windows so much, fire up Linux.
Mine doesn't, for some strange reason. I must have gotten a special edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr UnneIt degrades under normal usage. People are not to blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
I think I provided a solid example of such degration.Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageMine doesn't, for some strange reason. I must have gotten a special edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr UnneIt degrades under normal usage. People are not to blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
You probably did, but I've yet to experience it myself.
What did Bill Gates' wife say to him on their wedding night?
Oh so that's why you call it Microsoft! LoLzOrDs.
I hate Microsoft because they're annoying, scamming b*st*rds. I work on Linux :love:
Windows are annoying, because they get smudges. Then you have to go get the Wendex. It's a never ending cycle of agony.
LOL micro$oft
Evidently there is a patent application by microsoft for something that has been around for ages :) [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] like this just makes them look even more smurfing retarded.
forget MS. I hate them.
Bipper
I dont hate windows anymore, but it hates me. I like it more than Linux, Apple and all the rest.
Well you could always create a root account, but I don't think you should really be using a root account for every day usage. Sudo by default gives you root access for five minutes before it expires. I don't mind using it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samuraid
Yes, but not half as many as Windows. My G4 had an issue of crashing alot and unexpectadly quitting programs while im using them. My G5 dosent have this problem, and I'd say its near perfection :)Quote:
Originally Posted by roto13-ness
It's still better than using a Mac.
No, not really. In my opinion, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
I've used Macs extensively, I'm not just speaking out of my ass on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by GenjiNo, not really. In my opinion, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...rash-different
Macs recently had a bad problem where the drivers could be coaxed into allowing one to have root access or some such. The find was not used mallaciously my most, as there is a low % of people using macs. Personally, I <3 thier OS. But it is not perfect. A lot closer than windows is, but not perfect.
OS X is nice, but I'd much prefer Windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
I really like iMovie though...
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pure Quin14
Pure Genius!
The problem could only be exploited through a third-party NIC card. No one uses a third-party NIC card with a Mac.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
Apple seems to be pretty big on accessorizing, so I don't think many people use much 3rd-party anything on a Mac.Quote:
Originally Posted by YamanekoThe problem could only be exploited through a third-party NIC card. No one uses a third-party NIC card with a Mac.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
I coulda sworn it was something motherboard... I remember reading on slashdot some time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by YamanekoThe problem could only be exploited through a third-party NIC card. No one uses a third-party NIC card with a Mac.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
It was proven with a third-party card but there were fears that the built in AirPort Wi-Fi card would also be vulnerable.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
yes.. .that sounds a lot more familiar! Case in point; MAC has a damn good thing going for itself, producing branded hardware and software. Though, if they ever got market share, I am sure they would be bigger bastards than M$ ever proved :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé GaelachIt was proven with a third-party card but there were fears that the built in AirPort Wi-Fi card would also be vulnerable.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
Bipper
Apple in the position that Microsoft are now?Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
Now that would scare me. :D
Microsoft sets this up in thier eula from 2000 on; so yes, XP has this as well. It is yet another perfect reason to hate windows. Yes, this cuts microsoft out of most any liability they can be pitted against. Is this the security you pay money for?Quote:
17. EXCLUSION OF INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL AND CERTAIN OTHER DAMAGES. TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, IN NO EVENT SHALL MICROSOFT OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, PUNITIVE, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS OR CONFIDENTIAL OR OTHER INFORMATION, FOR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, FOR PERSONAL INJURY, FOR LOSS OF PRIVACY, FOR FAILURE TO MEET ANY DUTY INCLUDING OF GOOD FAITH OR OF REASONABLE CARE, FOR NEGLIGENCE, AND FOR ANY OTHER PECUNIARY OR OTHER LOSS WHATSOEVER) ARISING OUT OF OR IN ANY WAY RELATED TO THE USE OF OR INABILITY TO USE THE SOFTWARE, THE PROVISION OF OR FAILURE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT OR OTHER SERVICES, INFORMATON, SOFTWARE, AND RELATED CONTENT THROUGH THE SOFTWARE OR OTHERWISE ARISING OUT OF THE USE OF THE SOFTWARE, OR OTHERWISE UNDER OR IN CONNECTION WITH ANY PROVISION OF THIS EULA, EVEN IN THE EVENT OF THE FAULT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), MISREPRESENTATION, STRICT LIABILITY, BREACH OF CONTRACT OR BREACH OF WARRANTY OF MICROSOFT OR ANY SUPPLIER, AND EVEN IF MICROSOFT OR ANY SUPPLIER HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
At the same time if I made a product that virtually 100% of businesses use (at least their grunt employees do), I would have something like this in my EULA.
Aye agree. Much as the GPL has; difference is, open source wise, your not paying for support that has no liability, and hardly and interest to see your problem solved. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pureghetto
On a similar note...
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THE APPLE SOFTWARE IS NOT INTENDED FOR USE IN THE OPERATION OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES, AIRCRAFT NAVIGATION OR COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEMS, LIFE SUPPORT MACHINES OR OTHER EQUIPMENT IN WHICH THE FAILURE OF THE APPLE SOFTWARE COULD LEAD TO DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, OR SEVERE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE.
LMFAO. I like that one infitely better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé Gaelach
This video I am particulary against. Really and truely, he only says that Macs crash. A PC crashes more often than a Mac, he really dosent put up a good arguement, well staged though...Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI've used Macs extensively, I'm not just speaking out of my ass on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by GenjiNo, not really. In my opinion, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...rash-different
Don't take it so seriously. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreddz
From the title I took it a completely different way. I mean, the title is "Crash Different".Quote:
Originally Posted by DreddzThis video I am particulary against. Really and truely, he only says that Macs crash. A PC crashes more often than a Mac, he really dosent put up a good arguement, well staged though...Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI've used Macs extensively, I'm not just speaking out of my ass on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by GenjiNo, not really. In my opinion, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...rash-different
Windows is probably still the best operating system out there. The only problem is is that it is extremely complicated, and unless you know what you are doing, there's really no point to it. Bill Gates thought everyone would be able to utilize it as he does, but nope, that was a sore misjudgement.
btw:
http://www.linux-schule.de/mssucks/New-MS-Keyboard.gif
and the classic
I like that picture a lot! :D
EDIT: But it wouldn't work anyway...
India has the idea:
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"The New York Times reports that the communist government in the Indian state of Kerala is trying to remove Microsoft from its public institutions, as part of a campaign against monopolistic corporations. From the article: 'schools and public offices across the state are being encouraged to install free software systems instead of purchasing Microsoft's Windows programs. "It is well-known that Microsoft wants to have a monopoly in the field of computer technology. Naturally, being a democratic and progressive government, we want to encourage the spread of free software," M. A. Baby, the state's education minister, said by telephone.' The government is not banning Microsoft, but it is actively encouraging all 12,500 public schools in the state to install Linux."
Get a mac :D
Fixed it. Windows or Linux, Mac is no option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinoabella
If you shouldn't use Apple products in a nuclear facility, then what OS does that leave the engineers with to control the nuclear reactors? Windows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinoabella
...
*realises what he's just said*
Oh God.
Frankly, I'm with Mirage on this. My Windows XP has given me no problems whatsoever. I've had it for almost a year now and use it frequently, yet it's never crashed or given me any major computer-pukes even once.
Though, I am quite fond of Macs.
My dad is in the electrical engineering field, and they've set up some systems on Unix, and specialized versions of Linux.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé GaelachIf you shouldn't use Apple products in a nuclear facility, then what OS does that leave the engineers with to control the nuclear reactors? Windows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinoabella
...
*realises what he's just said*
Oh God.
It annoys me when my PC just freezes, and Im like WHY HAVE YOU FROZE? WHY?
But Microsoft works, thats all Im bothered about
It really works?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeldy
Windows is unAmerican.
America's tagline for forever has been "lol diversity!" a "cultural melting pot" (how many history students are sick of that tired phrase?) so it should be against US law to have above a certain % of computers on US soil running the same operating system.
the rest of the world can just use linux and wait for us to catch up~
That being said, I want to get a mac laptop for school and do some triadbooting.
If you get a Mac, I'll make sure the Triads are informed about it >=|Quote:
Originally Posted by rubah
Don't get me started on that ridiculous "cultural melting pot" >_>
>>> The only thing windows can do right is run lame PC games..
You dare call Freecell lame!?Quote:
Originally Posted by black orb
lQuote:
Originally Posted by Odaisé GaelachIf you shouldn't use Apple products in a nuclear facility, then what OS does that leave the engineers with to control the nuclear reactors? Windows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinoabella
...
*realises what he's just said*
Oh God.
ol there are only two operating systems in the world ;)
I worked in university, with audio engineer and other media formats (including graphic design and 3d modeling). We used both Mac and PC, and they were both very power machines.
To be honest? I saw no difference other than the prefernce you prefer in an OS layout. (i.e. what you find easiest to navigate) I've never had any problems using Windows for all my media needs, and neither for Mac. I just like Windows' layout a lot better as I'm used to navigating around with it.
Macs can crash just as much as Windows does, I've learnt this a lot. And BTW, I have both a PC and a MAC in my home, so I do use them both extensively.
My opinion: I like Windows.
Your opinion is wrong. :bigsmile:
Windows is far too expensive because of the Monopoly they're running.