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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCracker View Post
    Meta was brought up on the basis that the same things that made it strange to go competative still exist within the game, even after it's given a competitive focus.

    I think it's odd, because you would imagine that balance would be very important for the tournament scene. The more unbalanced a game, the less likely common sense dictates a game would go that far.

    Meta-Knights temporary banning shows that this game is far from fixing this problem.

    Mind you, I have never said the game shouldn't be, or that it couldn't effectively be, played at a tournament level. Just that this game started off an unlikely canidate for it, and still has a lot of the elements that made it an unlikely candidate.


    And I still say the Random Items made it an odd choice, on the basis that's the way the game was meant to be played, yet to play competitively you must eliminate that factor entirely. That almost feels like saying that you can play a game like Bloody Roar competitively, but you can't use your beast mode. (No Idea if that game ever had much a competitive scene mind you. )
    Balance is important. And there is enough balance among the top 7 characters that they all see almost equal amount of play, are played by an equal amount of good players and perform almost equally well on average. Yes, that's not even half of the cast, but 7 characters are still more than the amount of different characters I saw being played last time I went to a BlazBlue tournament. And the gap between these 7 most played and the next 5 characters on the tier list isn't all that big either. It's really just that less people play those characters, but there are still top-players who use them well and beat equally well-played top-tier characters with them. So, I really wouldn't say there is a big balance issue that far to be honest. At least 12 characters are certainly "available" at even the top-level. You only really see an issue when comparing top to bottom, yet even then there are weird cases of certain bottom/low characters doing well against high/top characters simply because their moves and style give a kind of coverage that just so happens to be very effective against certain top-level characters. Young Link vs Jigglypuff is a good such example. Jiggly is much better overall, but still struggles against Young Link because of how Young Link works.

    ...and also, I have beaten quite a few equally good players with my Pichu. Just saying.

    And well, Meta is still a Brawl character, and his temporary banning doesn't really say anything about Melee.

    And yes, it did start off a bit unlikely, since it wasn't designed with any kind of competition in mind. However, I personally don't find it strange in the least that it is being played on a serious level.
    Last edited by Ultima Shadow; 02-11-2013 at 12:52 PM. Reason: forgot to add the word "issue". :p

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