Diablo 2: The Brother (And Sister)hood of EoFF

[Fonzie]

Ay, they did.

[Nominus Experse]

Jesus Christ, this post of mine here makes 2501 posts...

Tav, you were right, Rares are the best things to occur in Median. I found a crossbow that is rife with awesomesauce.

I can now PEW PEW PEW better

[Markus. D]

^^~ Pew Pew Pew :3

[Nominus Experse]

Note to all:
Necromancer Summoners suck in Median

The minions' stats don't scale with the difficulty
There is no crowd control skill available (which means no Uberquests)
When you come into town, you lose more than half your army
The Attack Rating of the Necromancer's pets is abysmal
You must have the Nightmare skill, otherwise everything heals itself
The AI is poor
You have to lead the crowd, meaning you'll get picked off first by an archer
Half the totems are useless
The spell timer for Corpse Seed is too long
Additionally, the spell timer for either the Summon Overlord, Rathma's Chosen, and Corpse Seed all run ON THE SAME smurfING ONE. This means that if you just used Corpse Seed, you'll have to wait 15 seconds in order to use either of the other two. This may not seem an issue until you get to an Uberlevel where you and your minions need the Life/Damage/Mana boost from totems immediately.
Minions get stuck on stairs when entering an area. Of particular interest is Kurast 3000 BA. Everything will simply sit there on the stairs doing... nothing.
By the time you get a totem up, everything is dead - whether that's your army or the enemy.
PEW PEW PEW is fun, but the damage is laughable.
Act II is more difficult than it ought to be.
Etc...

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I needed a break from this game anyways.

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EDIT: ZOMG! I just realized that there was more to the attribute challenge than what I first thought. Necromancers can apparently craft rings and gloves that give a huge boost to minion life and damage, along with 4 random modifiers that may grant +Skills and resists.

FUCK! Why didn't I read this before... I foolishly deleted my character...

In other news, I've found Throwing Barbarians to be immensely fun - especially when using Wolf Stance and Hawk Talons.

There's just something fun about zooming around with your 4 spirits laying mines everywhere.

[LunarWeaver]

Allow me to tell a tale:

I got all the keys. Three different keys three times to create all the sets for all the portals in one game to make sure I don't get repeats. I recruit Yummie to help me, and we decide to collect the body parts.

As I imagined, despite my bone necro having level 44 Bone spells and battle orders and teleport and almost all his synergies done and everything else imaginable, he could not even scratch the harder version of Duriel. He literally healed faster than I could hurt him. I had no choice but to swallow my racism and use Chimney's smiter instead. But I saw this coming; none of my characters are strong enough to handle the bulk of the work.

I got on Chimney's smiter and Yummie got on my account because all his characters suck complete ass and mine don't. Together, we brought him down so easily it was pie.

Next up is Izual. Easy, easy.

Lilith, same thing.

I think, "Wow, his Smiter is stupidly overpowered when it comes to bosses, so I can take on Ubers."

We make the portal and go on through. I look for Diablo or Baal first because they're easier. I lock on to Baal, and away I hack. I get him down to about [ ] life, and because of Life Tap he can't even scratch me. I'm invincible. Mephisto shows up, but I still survive because Yummie is keeping him busy and I can't be hurt.

Then Diablo comes into my screen with Armageddon crap on.

My screen FREEZES...and freezes...and freezes...I start counting with Mississippi in between. 27 seconds of my computer frozen. Do you know how long that is? It may not sound like much, but sit there and really count 27 seconds to yourself. It's quite a while.

When it unfreezes and goes haywire trying to play catch up, both of us are dead and they are standing over our corpses. He told me he froze up too. We have trouble enough loading two of them on screen, and it seems all three was the breaking point.

Then, anytime either of us try and go in the portal, we freeze up for about 5-10 seconds then it just shows us as dead. Our computers are literally too crappy to enter Uber Tristram.

And so we had no choice but to abandon the game. And by no choice, I mean I said many key words, threw a fit, and left after dying about 100 times. I tried everything. I tried rejoining to get my body. I tried his Hammerdin. I tried Koast's summoner to take the damage for me until I could load the screen. I even tried Amazons just to be funny. It was a lost cause, kids. It was a lost cause.

This is why I will be collecting the keys again. Next time, everybody who has any Non-Ladder characters worth ass is getting on and helping me. You will die for me until I can load them and then proceed to smite everything to death. But I'm collecting the keys, so you have to give me the prize :bigsmile: Which will also belong to Chimney when he gets back because I'm using his character to kill the bosses. Although at this point, I just think they're fun coz they're hard and I'm not worried too much about the torch anymore.

Fin~

[Tavrobel]

That just means that your computer sucks. Nothing more.

Smiters are still overpowered.

[Fonzie]

Where'd did Nom go?

[Tavrobel]

If you want to, I have a partially stripped Zealadin on Faelivrin. Cim has my account accesses. My WW Barb used to be able to tank anything in Uber Tristram, but I deleted him. Cim also has my entire inventory to work with.

[LunarWeaver]

It's true, my computer does suck. Like, big time. Sometimes, I go into a Baal run and freeze for the entire thing. By the time I load it, everything is dead and all the players are gone. It's quite sad, really.

Oddly enough, we dropped when fighting Lilith at complete random when there was no lag at all, but the Ubers lagged us like madmen and we didn't drop once. Oh, b.net, I like you.

But Chimney is gone D: He cannot help me now. I must help myself. And his smiter is sick. Just sick.

Somebody give me non-ladder Martial Arts charms and I'll give that person a real live kao.

And where did Vietnom go?

This whole post is so ADD I can't even look at it.

[Flying Mullet]

I decided to do a NM Andy run yesterday for good ol' times with my Fire Sorc and Andy dropped a SoJ. :D

[LunarWeaver]

You goddamn son of a bitch.

[Giga Guess]

I decided to do a NM Andy run yesterday for good ol' times with my Fire Sorc and Andy dropped a SoJ. :D

Hate you. So, so much.

[Tavrobel]

But Chimney is gone D: He cannot help me now. I must help myself. And his smiter is sick. Just sick.

And where did Vietnom go?

Who knows? Nom hasn't been on in about two weeks.


I decided to do a NM Andy run yesterday for good ol' times with my Fire Sorc and Andy dropped a SoJ. :D

I hate you and your luck.


Hate you. So, so much.

I said hi to you on WCIII and you never answered! More hate to you too.

[Giga Guess]

Hate you. So, so much.

I said hi to you on WCIII and you never answered! More hate to you too.

Quite likely got swallowed by lag. My connection here is crappy.

[Flying Mullet]

Quite likely got swallowed by lag.
Lagomorph? http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy6/NPCs/Nonhuman/Lagomorph.gif

[Tavrobel]

Quite likely got swallowed by lag.
Lagomorph? http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy6/NPCs/Nonhuman/Lagomorph.gif

LOL pwned

[Captain Maxx Power]

FYI if anyone wants to catch me on Europe my account name is *maxxpower

[Giga Guess]

Quite likely got swallowed by lag.
Lagomorph? http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy6/NPCs/Nonhuman/Lagomorph.gif

LOL pwned

Psssh. Lagosaurus. Dun et my Sorc up.

[Tavrobel]

Mulley, GG, Lunar, and SRL, in the PM I sent, the Druid and the Hammerdin have equipment on them; they are not stripped. There are, however, no mules, since I have given all of the stuff away.

[LunarWeaver]

I hope you know I totally took a billion Fortitudes.


People want one high rune per Martial Arts charm. They want me to give them Jahs and Bers and I keep telling them to go die. I mean, there are only 4 martial arts assassins on b.net and I own 3 of them, so I think this is a little much. They aren't even THAT useful to her. She's totally all about the boots, the stingy assholes. I don't even want to think what they're gonna ask for Shadow Dancers.

[Nominus Experse]

I think Diablo has finally died. I no longer seem to be addicted. This is likely the only time in my life that I have missed an addiction.

Not really.

[LunarWeaver]

It's a Vietnom! *catches in a pokeball*

I finished up a few last chars, and then Yummie and I looked at each other and said, "Okay, I think it's clear we're both just done."

So I have also given up. I will keep my stuff up-to-date until my brother gets a computer next year, though, because he's dying to play with me for some reason. Until then, I guess it's finally over ;_;

[Nominus Experse]

Meh, all "good" things come to an end at one point or another

And I wonder, Lunar, what's a Vietnom's evolution?

[Tavrobel]

As I said, this is my personal LJ right now. Expect daily updates.

Where the fuck have you been?

Also, Vietnom evolves into 'M. I evolve into .4, 4.4, and 44.4. I'm malicious and delicious!

[Nominus Experse]

I took an impromptu break.

Though, that was largely due to me suddenly finding myself homeless and jobless, but meh. Things are back to "normal" now I suppose.

[Tavrobel]

Really? I'm taking a fairly permanent break. Normal would be me not having carpal tunnel, but hey, whatever works. Stupid friggin' Lunar. Now I have to go make a signature based on the MissingNo. glitches from the first generation of Pokemon.

[Markus. D]

You can also catch MissingNo on Ruby and Sapphy I think :]

and some other bizarre way on Gold/Silver.

[Tavrobel]

You can also catch MissingNo on Ruby and Sapphy I think :]

and some other bizarre way on Gold/Silver.

They aren't the same! They are mere question marks! Sacrilege to the name of #000, the Kangaskhan evolver!

[DeStyle]

Wait what!?

How do you get missingno on Ruby/Silver???? And is there an item cloning glitch included?

Anyhoo this sucks, just while I was thinking to really start my diablo journey (tried to start a poisonmancer like waaay back) everyone stops :(. I guess I'll be playing Fate then (diablo II clone without the online gaming goodness).

[Nominus Experse]

Diablo II hasn't had any online "goodness" in years. The seemingly continual influx of 10 year old numb-nuts and arrogant assholes took any "good" there ever was in the online community of Diablo II.

I still marvel how some people have managed to play this game online for years on end

*That would be you Tav*



And Pokemon is the only game ever worth playing anymore, so get a DS and play with your cartoon pets, dammit.

[Tavrobel]

How do you get missingno on Ruby/Silver???? And is there an item cloning glitch included?

Anyhoo this sucks, just while I was thinking to really start my diablo journey (tried to start a poisonmancer like waaay back) everyone stops :(. I guess I'll be playing Fate then (diablo II clone without the online gaming goodness).

You don't. Red/Blue/Yellow are the only true American versions with MissingNo. Gold/Silver have a variation that is not the real thing, mostly consisting of ?????, but due to the error handling of the newer games, they don't really do anything; they are just there. Ruby/Sapphire also have the question marks. However, Diamond/Pearl seem to have MissingNo, but it's only accessable by getting into a battle before you get a Pokemon, which means it's a cheat, and therefore, not the true MissingNo.

Sorry, you missed it. But over the past year since starting this insane idea with Khaotic, Behold the Void, BahamutX2000, KH-Cloudy, and Nom, I've found that DII is growing into the years of the Blizzard game called "post-prime." A dying legion of fanhood is slowly being sucked away by automated response, immorality, and general jerk-ness in a community that was once filled with optimism and gratitude. It happened to Diablo, and it is certainly happening to Starcraft.


Diablo II hasn't had any online "goodness" in years. The seemingly continual influx of 10 year old numb-nuts and arrogant assholes took any "good" there ever was in the online community of Diablo II.

I still marvel how some people have managed to play this game online for years on end *That would be you Tav*

The greatest tragedy to ever happen to the internet is the internet.

[LunarWeaver]

Anybody want to play Median sometime? :jess: I was thinking I could set aside a character that only levels when played with somebody else :O Namely a Spearazon because getting them to level 24 by yourself is boring *cough*

[Tavrobel]

I would if I could host, but I can't. I only really want to play using my level 120s.

[LunarWeaver]

Can't we just play on Closed B.net? D: You know you want to make one with me and have a nice, slow pace to it. Deep down you ache for this.

[Tavrobel]

Can't we just play on Closed B.net? D: You know you want to make one with me and have a nice, slow pace to it. Deep down you ache for this.

If you want a nice quick ban, then yes, you can play on Closed Battle.net.

I don't feel like getting on Open, since I can't host either way.

[Nominus Experse]

I suppose I could make another Hawk Talon Barbarian.

Maybe.

[LunarWeaver]

Oops, I meant open, silly me.

What's up with your hosting capabilities? Did Alaskan midgets take that from you...just like they took my virginity :sad:

Vietnom, dooo it. I don't even know what that is. I've barely played the mod at all. But now that I'm bored with regular D2, I'm finally ready to be commited. Assassin = so totally awesome in this thing, and for that I love it.

[Tavrobel]

My firewall doesn't like it, even when it's turned off.

[Bunny]

Should I install this? I have it for some reason and I do not remember buying it.

[Tavrobel]

I say yes.

[Bunny]

So, like. It is installing now. It has been years since I have played this game. What do I do first?

I am thinking either barbarian or necromancer. Perhaps an assassin.

[Tavrobel]

Whatever floats your boat, Bunny.

[Bunny]

Obviously. USEast, correct?

[Tavrobel]

Yes. However, now you have the option of either playing on Ladder or non-Ladder. NL has my entire inventory from the previous season (well, the items I haven't given away). Ladder has a relatively small number of items, but is still useful for Ladder climbers.

You'll have to see if anyone else is on right now, though, since I'm pretty much retired, and I don't keep an eye on everyone else.

[Markus. D]

Everyone in here seems to get light years in progression in this game in like 5 hours .___.

[LunarWeaver]

'Coz we're all magick!

Bunny, I know all there is to know about the Assassin :bigsmile: If you ever want to know about her, I will give you an unnecessarily long post about it that will be torture to read.

[Bunny]

I started a Necromancer. And then I realized how boring the game is without someone to play with. And that starting over while everyone else is a billion levels ahead in progression is horrible.

[Markus. D]

Make Lunar~~~ start a new character :3!

It's slightly funner pwning with another ^---^

[Nominus Experse]

Install Median Bunny

[LunarWeaver]

I would play with you Bunny, but now I'm too lazy to move my patches around and take off Median. My behaviour would only make you shake your head and turn you into Tavrobel a bitter old woman anyway. I'm dangerous!

Vietnom, you will play Median with me or I will do some sort of threatening internet-related thing to you.

[Bunny]

Install Median Bunny

What does Median do?

[Flying Mullet]

Install Median Bunny
What does Median do?
Allows your computer to toast bread.

[Tavrobel]

What does Median do?

It's a mod. Basically, it's a replacement of the patch.mpq file that Diablo II runs from.

Here (http://modsbylaz.planetdiablo.gamespy.com/) is the main site and download center. After playing the vanilla game for so long, it's quite refreshing and almost as though it were a totally different game.

[DeStyle]

I started a Necromancer. And then I realized how boring the game is without someone to play with. And that starting over while everyone else is a billion levels ahead in progression is horrible.

I'm thinking about starting out (this time for the keep) dunno what
character though. I tried to go for the poisonmancer build a while ago
but that didn't work out (level 30 without any proper skills is a pain).

[Captain Maxx Power]

You know considering the high Median playership and the fact that a new patch is due, I believe it's 100% necessary for us to start an EoFF troop to play over TCP/IP or Open B.net.

[Markus. D]

:D!

That would be neat :3

[Tavrobel]

Hurry guys! Get those new uber-High Runes in Terror Fautzinville while you can! Otherwise, you'll have to settle for Destruction difficulty! And we all know we can't survive that, because my Druid got pwned by Tremor nerf.

[Nominus Experse]

He's sending out a new patch already?

[Tavrobel]

He said three days from Friday. So I'm guessing either Sunday or Monday.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Monday 20th. (http://phrozenkeep.planetdiablo.gamespy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=345677#345677)

[LunarWeaver]

I can't seem to get a spearazon past level 18. I keep getting bored just trying to get Wings of Light or whatever the hell. So instead I'm using a Paladin since they're horribly overpowered and I need somebody to get good things for my other people. I can self-transfer, thankfully, so all my characters share goodness :bigsmile:. My Assassin would do, but the "don't get hit for 2 seconds" thing can get tiresome after a while. He made too many groups that have physical hits and shoot too fast for me to get my goddamn lotus off. PEW PEW HOLY SKILLS PEW.

A new patch and I only just started!

[Tavrobel]

Anyone happen to have an upgraded Barbarian Class Charm in Median?

[Nominus Experse]

I have all of the charms, but none of them upgraded yet.

[Giga Guess]

If I said I got a Sol rune in Hell, Normal difficulty, would that be abnormal?

[Markus. D]

Hmmm...

Median?

If it's median... than Runes of x drop all over the place.

[Giga Guess]

No, basic.

I think after the wipe, they reassessed the drop rates of certain things. I know I got an Edge Bow in Travincal.

[Nominus Experse]

I can't figure out where to summon Inarius' soul, god dammit. Have any of you any idea where I might do this?

[Tavrobel]

I can't figure out where to summon Inarius' soul, god dammit. Have any of you any idea where I might do this?

Cathedral of Vanity. You have to clear out the uberquest Inarius, the Orb, the two Clerics, and all of the Nuns before you can summon the Ubersummon Inarius and his Overlord Minions, all basically mini-Butchers using the same sprite with a palette swap.

Drops the Spirit of Damnation.

[Flying Mullet]

It's funny how different Median is than vanilla Diablo II. I've hardly played Median, so I have no idea what y'all are talking about. It's a completely new game.

[Markus. D]

It still feels like Diablo II though n_n-b

[Nominus Experse]

I can't figure out where to summon Inarius' soul, god dammit. Have any of you any idea where I might do this?

Cathedral of Vanity. You have to clear out the uberquest Inarius, the Orb, the two Clerics, and all of the Nuns before you can summon the Ubersummon Inarius and his Overlord Minions, all basically mini-Butchers using the same sprite with a palette swap.

Drops the Spirit of Damnation.
Ah, I see. I can defeat the Cathedral Uberquest, so I can't see this being too difficult. I don't know why I didn't try summoning him there...

But I'll likely get raped anyway.


EDIT:

I feel like a fucktard: he mentions reading from the book when you defeat him anyways, so why the hell didn't I think? Grawr...

Anyways, I now hold in my possession, the Spirit of Damnation:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6848/screenshot002gu2.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9971/screenshot003zz0.jpg

Yay, go me... or something. I still can't quite do the Uberlevel where you get the Eternal Bone Pile, though...

[Tavrobel]

You're not supposed to be able to do the Juris Khan level. It was inserted purely in order to piss off the hackers and the n00b who thought that they were 1337h4x.

[Nominus Experse]

But the Eternal Bone Pile looks like it's full of win and awesomesauce.

DO WANT.

There has to be a way.


EDIT:

Tav, how was it that you managed to xfer with yourself? Such a technique would prove most beneficial.

[Captain Maxx Power]

@Nom; You can get a program at the Keep called "PlugY" which allows you to not only have an infinitely large stash (well, technical 4 billion normal stash pages, but you try filling all those suckers), but also a "shared" stash that all characters can have access to. Same thing applies for gold. It also allows you to keep track of the more awkward stats such as Crafting Points with a separate character window(s) detailing hidden stats such as magic resistance, crushing blow, etc. etc. If you thought Median changed Diablo wait until you shove PlugY into the mix.

@Everyone else; There's a brand spanking new version of Median out. As Necrocopter would say treat yourself. (http://modsbylaz.planetdiablo.gamespy.com/download.html)

[Nominus Experse]

Is there any specific version of PlugY I ought to get, because the one I have seems to be creating errors left and right.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Is there any specific version of PlugY I ought to get, because the one I have seems to be creating errors left and right.

Get the latest one. It took a bit of tweaking myself. In the end I had both the whole PlugY directory in the main Diablo 2 folder, then the executable and configuration file in the directory holding Median. Works for me now, and I can't tell you how awesome it is having such a massive stash. If you're a packrat like I am it's a godsend.

[Tavrobel]

But the Eternal Bone Pile looks like it's full of win and awesomesauce.

DO WANT. There has to be a way.

Tav, how was it that you managed to xfer with yourself? Such a technique would prove most beneficial.

There is. If you are a hacker, and if you seriously need to hack on a single player game, I wonder why you even bother to live life. Of course, if you are legit, I imagine that this could not be done with anything besides a Paladin, Necro, or Assassin.

I have a special modification of my d2gfx.dll. This is the file that prevents multiple copies of DII being open at once. A simple uncheck, and then I can transfer amongst me, myself, and I.


Get the latest one. It took a bit of tweaking myself. In the end I had both the whole PlugY directory in the main Diablo 2 folder, then the executable and configuration file in the directory holding Median. Works for me now, and I can't tell you how awesome it is having such a massive stash. If you're a packrat like I am it's a godsend.

Only slightly less packratish than me.

Did I mention to anyone that I love the Set Sacrifice recipes? I had a collected a massing of Tier 6 Sets, and sacrificed them all in order to create the most desirable uniques for my Druid. He now has 17000 Defense, 9990~ HP, and damage overflow, now causing me to do very miniscule amounts of damage, but nothing terrible. Cast Rates ftw.

[Nominus Experse]

Whoa... wait...

Set sacrifice recipes? You mean there was a use for all my uncompleted tier 6 set pieces? FUCK FUCK FUCK....

Someone shoot me, for I hath given them all to Charsi...

[Nominus Experse]

Is there any method in negating an enemy's Stone Skin or Immune to Physical Attacks status?

Because I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to get to Inarius and realize that after destroying that fucking crystal ball, the Cleric are Stone Skin or Inarius himself happens to be Stone Skin...

It's driving me up the wall.

[KH-Cloudy]

Err..so I found my LoD disk to install. I'm confused about what you guys are saying about Median and all. >_>. What the smurf is going on?!??
EDIT:Ladder/Non?
EDIT2:Nevermind. Playing on TCP/IP

[Giga Guess]

Hey, KH, I'm currently the only one playing basic, and I'm Ladder, USEast.

[Tavrobel]

Whoa... wait...

Set sacrifice recipes? You mean there was a use for all my uncompleted tier 6 set pieces? smurf smurf smurf....

Someone shoot me, for I hath given them all to Charsi...

Yeah. Didn't you read the documentation?


Is there any method in negating an enemy's Stone Skin or Immune to Physical Attacks status?

Because I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to get to Inarius and realize that after destroying that smurfing crystal ball, the Cleric are Stone Skin or Inarius himself happens to be Stone Skin...

It's driving me up the wall.

Get an elemental attack. Laz says that Stone Skin and Element-Enchanted statuses automatically give immunities in Hell. It's a flaw in the coding.


Err..so I found my LoD disk to install. I'm confused about what you guys are saying about Median and all. >_>. What the smurf is going on?!??
EDIT:Ladder/Non?
EDIT2:Nevermind. Playing on TCP/IP

It's a modification. It changes all of the requisite parts inside of the patch_d2.mpq, and turns each part into something new. It's like playing a completely new game using the DII engine.

By the way, you can't play Ladder using Median. Open and TCP/IP only. Hamachi, I have found, seems to work for playing together.

[Nominus Experse]

Whoa... wait...

Set sacrifice recipes? You mean there was a use for all my uncompleted tier 6 set pieces? smurf smurf smurf....

Someone shoot me, for I hath given them all to Charsi...


Yeah. Didn't you read the documentation?

No, which happened to be a rather dimwitted move on my part...


Is there any method in negating an enemy's Stone Skin or Immune to Physical Attacks status?

Because I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to get to Inarius and realize that after destroying that smurfing crystal ball, the Cleric are Stone Skin or Inarius himself happens to be Stone Skin...

It's driving me up the wall.


Get an elemental attack. Laz says that Stone Skin and Element-Enchanted statuses automatically give immunities in Hell. It's a flaw in the coding.
Hmm... I'll have to keep an eye out for some tri-elemental and/or quad-elemental weapons and the like then...

Or get the Kraken Stance, but that's something I want to do...



On a different note, does anyone have any strategies on achieving the Level Challenges? I can get to the first Priestess (Ice) - with a Necromancer, Druid, Amazon, and Assassin - but I cannot kill her before her swarm of friendlies slay me and then play campout over my dead body.

[Giga Guess]

Hey, I have a request...I'm going on vacation in a couple weeks to Montreal...I need to pas off Cim's accounts for that time, if anyone can pull it off? Thanks.

[Tavrobel]

No, which happened to be a rather dimwitted move on my part...

o rly?



Hmm... I'll have to keep an eye out for some tri-elemental and/or quad-elemental weapons and the like then...

Or get the Kraken Stance, but that's something I want to do...

The runeword Berith, Ber Ith Ber Ith has +150-300 Fire, Cold, and Lightning damage, along with some respectable mods. Joy, Zod Ber Ort Lo adds 1-1001 Lightning damage with a Stun. Anything with Way of the Spider/Pheonix, an Assassin OSkill, can add Poison/Fire damage, respectively. I doubt you'll find Way of the Gryphon, though. Snake Stance adds Poison; Pheonix Stance USED to add Fire damage, but was changed.


On a different note, does anyone have any strategies on achieving the Level Challenges? I can get to the first Priestess (Ice) - with a Necromancer, Druid, Amazon, and Assassin - but I cannot kill her before her swarm of friendlies slay me and then play campout over my dead body.

No, because I don't plan on doing them. I would suggest trying to pick them off, one by one, and running.


Hey, I have a request...I'm going on vacation in a couple weeks to Montreal...I need to pas off Cim's accounts for that time, if anyone can pull it off? Thanks.

Send out a mass PM to Mulley, Lunar, SRL, and Nom. They (oddly enough) still get on from time to time.

[Tavrobel]

This is worth the double post!

Anyways, listen to my sob story of how I qq. So I tried to log onto Europe to play with the venerable Captain Maxx Power. Unfortunately, I never found him online. So I go home to play Median by myself, and I start tansferring items to and from myself as necessary.

Lo and behold, I can no longer host and join any games by myself. I tried to replace the d2gfx, but it failed. So now, I resort to PlugY. However, I went through all of the instructions (not that there were many), and I cannot run the game with Median. Now, I have seen people using Median with PlugY, just that most of the options are disabled.

I just want the shared stash damnit, and I know that it can be used! I don't care about anything else from PlugY, I just want that bloody-fucking shared stash.

EDIT: Ignore this post. You are all useless, and it works. All I had to do was run the normal game exe.

[Giga Guess]

Making a Vengeance Pally. Any tips?

[Giga Guess]

Tav did it, so I am too.

I need an Xfer at the next person's earliest convenience.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Making a Vengeance Pally. Any tips?

LoD or Median?

[Giga Guess]

LoD. The obvious, Max Vengeance and Conviction are a given. Also some work into the Resist Auras for their Synergies into Conviction is a given too...now I just need to know if there's any equipment I should seek, and any other skills that may help, too.

[Tavrobel]

Actually, I have not made a Vengeance Paladin on Battle.net since 1.07. I have however, made a Zeal Paladin, and a Fist of the Heavens Paladin.

Vengeance can either go Balanced, or try to focus more on any single element. Due to the massive amounts of duping on Closed Realms, your only option is to make whatever can kill the fastest, and can reach closer to the damage cap. This is reflected in the Aura synergies of Vengeance.

Vengeance (20)
Resist (20), or Salvation (20)
Conviction (20)
Fanatcism (optional 20)

Strength: enough to use equipment (may vary).
Dexterity: none, unless you plan on getting Max Block Rate, which could save you more often than not
Vitality: none, that Red Orb at the bottom is pointless
Energy: all! YOU NEED MANA FOR MELEE LOLOLOLOL

This'll leave about 20 skill points for pre-requisites, and Holy Shield. Stats is the standard build.

Ultimately, you'll have very few equipment options. At the end of the game, you need whatever you can get your filthy hands on that makes your elemental damage higher. Chances are, you will most likely be using Baranar's Star, or Runemaster Ettin Axe. I believe that I have a Baranar's on Ladder.

Baranar has the 1-200 damage of element (all three supported by Vengeance), which is good, and the Strength requirement without needing Dexterity (44). The weapon itself has a 50% IAS. However, Runemaster has the greatest customization options, having 3-5 sockets. You could boost damage by sticking in Ral, Tal, or Thul; you can even pump up IAS using Shael (20% IAS).

Runeword options are [I]Beast, Ber Tir Um Mal Lum, which has the Fanatcism Aura that you so desperately need. Cresent Moon, Shael Um Tir, is particularly useful if you are making a Lightning based Vengeance Paladin. Helm could use Dream, of which we are familar with. Your shield, well, Spirit, HoZ, Exile, are all good flavors. Anything useful. Gloves, Boots, Amulet, and Rings are the standard drill.

Do note, however, that I have a pair of Dracul's Grasp Gloves. You may take them if you wish, for the incredibly valuable Life Tap proc. But to make real use of this, you need some wicked sick Attack Speed, or the Block Rate to prevent life from going bye-bye in one shot.

Armor should be Fortitude, Guardian Angel Templar Coat, or CoH. I'm sure you can look up what fits you the most, Runeword-wise.

[Giga Guess]

Duly noted...it all makes sense, yeah.

[Nominus Experse]

What's the damage cap in Median? 65k?

[Tavrobel]

Yeah, anything else rolls over until it hits x%65535, and the remainder is your current attack power. The damage on my Sorc-Druid is close enough to 130k so that it rolls over once, but the spill off remains under 65k.

[LunarWeaver]

Laz made the Amazon's other Bow Line better and now I have to start over so I can do that :jess:. I'll never get anywhere in this mod because I keep starting over when I get to a skill and decide I don't like it after all. I'll probably get to Buckshot and switch back to something else. Somebody slap me with their tongue.

[KH-Cloudy]

Oh yeah, I'm a paladin like always :P. Holy paladin fyi.

[Nominus Experse]

So I still don't quite get the damage cap in Median. I realize it's 65k, but what exactly happens when you "roll over"? Are you saying that all damage inflicted (once "rolling over" the 65k mark) is then taken from only your stats, and not the net total of your stats and weapons and other item modifiers?

And furthermore, does this apply to poison directly as well? I ask this because poison is not administered all at once but over x amount of seconds. My guess is yes, but I have been wrong on many - if not most - accounts.

[Tavrobel]

Unless you can do 65535 Poison damage per second, Poison does not have an actual damage cap. Basically, once you get to 65k, anything higher is chopped off by 65k TOTAL. Afterwards, your damage begins at 1, and rises according to the difference of the damage remaining. This roll over calculation is done from skills and all modifiers.

For example, let's say I have 35 points in a damage skill. It does 35k. I have a Magic damage modifer total of 300%. I have a total Character Damage Bonus of 100%. Since they are two different modifications, they are calculated separately. 300% Damage is like four times the true amount. 1.4e5 damage, with the Total Bonus 100% is like doubling the damage. I now deal 2.8e5 damage. If I divide the damage by 65000 and take the remainder, I now deal 20000. That's how you get your true damage.

Now, of course, those bonuses are not reflective of the actual math used in calculating damage in Median. I myself have similar stats, but only do slightly less than 65k with Mark of the Wild. I just needed some good, clean numbers.

I started a summoning Barbarian, and plan on using Corruption to get myself some Acid Fiends. I don't plan on playing this character frequently, because, well, let's face it, my Druid is more fun to use.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Side note: The damage cap only applies if you use 1.11 as your base diablo installation. 1.10 actually doesn't have a damage cap due to some coding, whereas 1.11 reinstated the old 1.09 formula. Since fundamentally there's no real difference between 1.10 and 1.11 baring merc recruitment levels and the Open Wounds formula, it's recommended you use 1.10, especially if you're damage is overflowing.

[Tavrobel]

Too bad mercs in Median are fairly useless outside of normal play. Their AI sucks.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Too bad mercs in Median are fairly useless outside of normal play. Their AI sucks.

I generally find I can easily go without mercs with many of the builds I make in Median, and indeed in normal LOD. Generally I don't like mercs, as due to their suicidal nature and high cost their movements generally dictate the pace of the game rather than your own.

[Tavrobel]

That's why I never bought mercs in vanilla until after level 85. I also didn't use mercs in Median; they suck.

[Nominus Experse]

Thanks Tav.

And yes, I also find mercenaries useless in Median. In vanilla, they were nice due to their ability to tank and stack auras, but now... they just die.

Oh happy day - v 1.10 come to me!!

[KH-Cloudy]

I used a merc from act to act 3 just to tank everything. But after some certain things..they just completely died. Hatred difficulty too. Now I'm my own tank..Also lost a unique level 10 bow while transferring..damn D2 crashed.

[Tavrobel]

I lost over 300 Crafted and Magic Jewels, 10 -8% Requirements Jewels, 10 of every color of Gem, a Sacred Unique Polearm, multiple runeworded items, and set items because of PlugY (Horadric Cube isn't counted as a specific item, so it erased everything inside once opened).

Waah.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Yeah, never, under any circumstances, place your cube in your stash whilst using Plugy. The two really do not get on.

[Tavrobel]

Yeah, well, I know that NOW. I did a Fautzinville run in Terror, and I made up for what I lost in Gems.

Jewels are an entirely different story. And the unique wasn't that good.

EDIT: I like where this is going!

[Nominus Experse]

Grawr...

How do I revert back to 1.10?

[KH-Cloudy]

I hate Act III..such a pain finding all these places..

[LunarWeaver]

I tried playing with Yummie again through an IP game and it still didn't work. I'm beginning to wonder if I can play Median with others at all period. That will sucky suck. I wanted to play with him and make a purely support Necro just for kicks D:

He replaced Winged Strike with a new skill and I thought my spearazon would finally get some levels, but... not so much with the new one either.

[Tavrobel]

Grawr...

How do I revert back to 1.10?

Do to the Blizzard main website for DII and download the 1.10 patch, and dump it in the DII folder.

[Nominus Experse]

Oh...

That's it?

EDIT: It won't let me do it that way, as it brings up a message stating that I already have a more up-to-date patch installed.

[Tavrobel]

I would say re-install, but it's such a hassle, and there are ways to back-patch. I never bother, though.

[LunarWeaver]

I think I remember getting all the proper DLL and patches n such for 1.10 from Phrozen Keep. Then I think I just manually stuck them all in the folder. It's been forever since I ever tried, though, so I may be wrong :yuck:.

[KH-Cloudy]

I'm getting pwned so much in Act 4. Can't get to River of Flame, so many range attacks.

[Tavrobel]

If in Median, get a shield and a ranged attack of your own. If in vanilla, just get rushed.

[LunarWeaver]

I seem to have spawned a map in the Crystalline Passage that cannot be gotten through. The Frozen River is accessible, but the other two passages are behind solid wall that I have walked up and down to no results. Is killing Nihlathak a requirement in Median or something? What the fuck is going on.

[Tavrobel]

You just spawned a really bad map. I haven't killed Nihlathak on any of my characters.

If you're in Hatred Difficulty, just go onto Open Battle.net, create a game, and quit.

[Nominus Experse]

Lawl...

Only Lunar could suffer such a fate

[LunarWeaver]

I will name one of my Acid Fiends Vietnom and then let it die. Yes...Yes, that will show him.

Oh my, I will go on open to get a new map. I didn't even think of it. Oh, Sir Taffy, you spicy soul you.

[Tavrobel]

Acid Fiends don't get names.

If Open B.net doesn't work, then get the multiple copy of d2gfx.dll at Phrozen Keep, and run a TCP/IP game.

[LunarWeaver]

I can name anything I want :mad2: This makes me miss my Valkyrie, Lucy.

I spawned a new one <3 I'm up to Baal now. This is sadly the most I've ever gone in this mod. -_-

[Tavrobel]

LOL I have most of the Ubercharms, with the sole exception of Eternal Bone Pile (which is not meant to be had).

Ohh, I also don't have Level Challenges, Attribute Challenges, and the Sunstone of the Gods (Tran Athula).

[LunarWeaver]

Those things are hot potatoes. Scanning around the Median website makes me yearn with the yearning.

But I'll never see anything remotely awesome as I made yet another new character. I noticed most of the YouTubes are Barbarians so I was all "Okay, let's try one 'coz I'm sick of my Lamias dying." Thunder Clap or whatever is sexy. He kills slower than others, but is like...impossible to kill himself.

I'm not sure which stance to do, though. I want to do the stance that gives more damage in trade for receiving it and also maybe the attribute one for when I start to get too hurt. And then I need one of those summons with the passive too. Ugh.

One thing that can be said about the Barb is speed, especially with the new dual weapon addition. He has that passive that makes him so fast! And I thought the zon was where it was at. Pfft.

[Nominus Experse]

I liked when I went Wolf Stance. You could probably make use of the Shamanic Stance if you are more reliant on your Guardians, but half the fun of Median is actually being involved in what :skull::skull::skull::skull: goes down.

I upgraded my Druid's Charm completely, and my oh my, is it ever sexy. Expensive to do, though. Even though my Barbarian can do The Idol of Vanity uberquest easily, saving 1000 points is hellish indeed.

[LunarWeaver]

And why are you not playing with me Vietnom :mad2:

It's because all my characters are too small and nobody wants to deal with them -hands head in shame-

[Nominus Experse]

Sorry - I haven't been very active online the last few months. I'll see what I can do Lunar.

I'll throw a PM at you if I ever get on.

In ten or so days time, I'll be sitting in a small room with nothing to do (besides studying for lame classes that I don't care for), so I'll likely be on quite often then.

[LunarWeaver]

Yaaay <3


And boooo. I just realized with my barbarian I have no way of killing Physical Immunes. I know they're supposed to be few and far between, but I still need something. I'll have to do that poison stance or some such >;O

[Tavrobel]

I upgraded my Druid's Charm completely, and my oh my, is it ever sexy. Expensive to do, though. Even though my Barbarian can do The Idol of Vanity uberquest easily, saving 1000 points is hellish indeed.

You wouldn't happen to have an extra one would you? I believe that you can craft as many Attribute Challenge Charms as you want, as long as you fall under the limitations. If not, could you dupe one for me? I don't feel like having to remake my Druid just to account for a minion (Tran Althula is pissing me off).


And boooo. I just realized with my barbarian I have no way of killing Physical Immunes. I know they're supposed to be few and far between, but I still need something. I'll have to do that poison stance or some such >;O

Uberskill Kraken Stance can deal with that very efficiently, but otherwise, Snake Stance should work.

[Nominus Experse]

Jah, I can probably do that for you Tav.

EDIT: Do you also want me to dupe my upgraded Sunstone of Ice and Fire (I can't get the Thunder Stone - it's impossible)?

[Tavrobel]

Maybe the Ice Stone. That +2 Skills looks tasty. I have plenty of resists.

[Nominus Experse]

'Kay.

I'll try to get on around 8:30 PM tonight.

[Tavrobel]

8:30 on Eastern Standard Time? If you have Hamachi, that will work.

[KH-Cloudy]

Hmm, its either me or my gear, but I kill things in After Terror kind of slow..(forgot difficulty)

[Tavrobel]

You mean Hell Destruction? Sounds like vanilla Median.

[LunarWeaver]

SOUNDS LIKE GYPSY MAGIC TO ME.

So, this Thunder Slam business + Snake Stance is my new best friend. And don't get me started on Shower of Rocks. I should have made a Barb ages ago.

It's very sad that I have a million runes sitting across a million characters taking up all my stash space... and yet I'm too lazy to go look at the new runewords. The runes hate me over it. They spelled Su Ck It Lu Nar in one piece of armor of their own accord. It gave me -100 to all stats and +4,000% cost to Malah's wares because she's a bitch.

One of these days I'll make a Magic Missile sceptor-wielding Amazon and name her Sailor Moon.

[Captain Maxx Power]

Barbs were once my favourite class in Median until recent patches started including random PI's in Destruction. The only viable PI solutions are Snake Stance (got to wait for it to work...) and Kraken Stance (which forces your hand when it comes to uberskills). Personally my current love is Unholy Pallies. If you want to know moar about them I took the liberty of writing a guide on them. (http://phrozenkeep.planetdiablo.gamespy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47139)

[KH-Cloudy]

Wow, nice guide. Too bad I didn't look at it before I became a Holy one. Damn gonna restart pally kind of...Actually I'll try Unholy out, see if I like it.

Oh yeah Tav, it's the Nightmare difficulty in Median, not vanilla.

[Nominus Experse]

Blarg... Tav, I'm PST. And I don't have Hamamschcihcichichi whatever.

Either way, I'll be online in a moment.

EDIT: Lunar or Tav, if you want me to show up, send me a PM.

[Nominus Experse]

I now have a Necromancer with 600 unspent skill points, so if you want any special crafts done by him, tell me and I'll make you some.

[Tavrobel]

PM sent.

[Nominus Experse]

Tav, where do you want to meet me? I'm still not sure if I am supposed to go Open or TC/IP whatever... I see you in Maxis, but when I try to get in, I get a "Generic Bad File" error...

I made a picture inspired by Where's Waldo? today:

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9550/screenshot012yl8.jpg

The Colours!

[Tavrobel]

If you can't join on Open, then try my IP game:
69.143.252.253

It should be up. Make sure that you are also using PlugY, also.

[LunarWeaver]

That is the funniest thing I've seen since that old lady got run over. The Necro's amount of summons would kill my computer x_x

I still don't know if I can even play with others at all. I wanted to make a pure support Necro that does Dark Power, Unholy Armor, Nightmare, and the final +% damage Totem too >:C But without somebody else there to kill everything, I cannot do it. WOE IS ME.

[Nominus Experse]

Blarg - I don't know why this happening, but my computer cannot connect...

I'll see what I can do to fix this.

Sorry Tav.

[LunarWeaver]

I tried getting into his game and it says I can't connect either :bigsmile: It's because Sir Taffy is a Nobody.

[Tavrobel]

Then get on Open again, and you make a game.

[Captain Maxx Power]

I still don't know if I can even play with others at all. I wanted to make a pure support Necro that does Dark Power, Unholy Armor, Nightmare, and the final +% damage Totem too >:C But without somebody else there to kill everything, I cannot do it. WOE IS ME.

I've been doing exactly that with my friend, with him playing as a pure summoner Necro whilst I provide Dark Power/Totems. I would suggest getting the Pew Pew Pew skill so that you don't get too bored. Right now we're in Act 3 and I can kill faster than him purely due to this one skill. :cool:

[LunarWeaver]

Lawleu, Pew Pew. That should be a runeword for Necro crossbows.

I forgot I didn't have PlugY and couldn't join Sir Taffy's game, but I was really only using him as a test. I'm not asking for somebody to play with me, I just want to see if it's possible so Yummie and I can work out the kinks. So someday, somebody with my version and no firewall and no PlugY needs to get on open so I can see if it's even possible for me to play with other people at all. It's frustrating me, and when I get frustrated my face turns into Rosie O' Donnell's.

[Nominus Experse]

This mod hates me - it drops sets, but they're all ones I already have dammit.

The only one I've completed is the useless - for me - Emerald Charmer set.

[Tavrobel]

Well, hang onto them. You never know when a Set will come in handy. For example, my Melee Barbarian is currently using two parts from the Melee Sorceress set, the Gloves and the Helm. Plus, they seem to be able to be traded well on Hamachi for the Phrozen Keep goers, as well as being very useful for any new build you might need equipment for.

[Nominus Experse]

I noticed the Withhunter's belt is very nice for my melee barbarian, so I agree that they do have their uses. It's just that the Charmer set seems to be EVERYWHERE.

I'm a little curious: in general, are Sacred Uniques superior than Sets, or is it the other way around. They both have max sockets, but Set items recieve bonuses from being paired with other Set items. So, in a sense, it seems that Set items are capable of recieving two bonuses (though one is preset), whereas Uniques can only recieve the bonuses from runes/jewels/gems/skulls.

I think Sets are more valuable and useful, but some of these Sacred Uniques I've found are pretty sexy, I must say.

[Tavrobel]

Uniques are great, but they stand alone. Sets, however, have specific uses that don't always cater to your needs. Uniques can be used in tandem with the other, but don't have any synergy bonus. But non-Sacred Uniques can be sacrificed from old (6) Sets, and upped freely, without a deteriment to sockets.

Uniques are probably harder to find, since Fauztinville is harder than Kurast.

EDIT: Someone find me a Bul Kathos' Voice Sacred Avenger Guard. It goes great with my Nimmenjuushin.

[Nominus Experse]

I have the super gay Thunderdome Horned Helm, but no Bul Kathos...

[Giga Guess]

Hey, just checking, are you still checking Cim's accounts, Lunar?

[Tavrobel]

This thread feels so... empty.

I guess this is the end of our little tirade. We've had a lot of memories. I just hope the Staff does this thread justice.

[Giga Guess]

I know...we should try and do this again in a couple years. :)

[Tavrobel]

If we are around that long. Either way, there's still Hellgate: London and Starcraft II.

[Nominus Experse]

I'll most definitely be there for either of those two games

[Fonzie]

I'll shed a tear for this.

Nothing more, nothing less.

[Nominus Experse]

I'll masturbate furiously.

Were you guys ever able to complete all of the quests in both Diablo II and Median? Vanilla was easy - of course - but I still haven't been able to fully complete all of Median. But I likely won't, as Alpha Centuari has once more taken a hold of me.

[Giga Guess]

One of these days, I really could use an xfer, prease?

[Tavrobel]

I'll masturbate furiously.

Were you guys ever able to complete all of the quests in both Diablo II and Median? Vanilla was easy - of course - but I still haven't been able to fully complete all of Median. But I likely won't, as Alpha Centuari has once more taken a hold of me.

Please do.

Yeah, that is, everything except for Tran Althula and Jitan. I haven't bothered to do the attribute challenges, because I don't find the benefits from them to be worth it, with the possible exception of Lifeblood.


One of these days, I really could use an xfer, prease?

On what, Vanilla?

[Giga Guess]

Yes, lame old vanilla.

[Tavrobel]

I'll see if I can get on, assuming you haven't gotten one already.

[CimminyCricket]

Same old, same old?

[Tavrobel]

Same old, same old?

Getting an F in Math, bitching about my classes, having three tests every day for the past two weeks, and spending WAY too much time on the internet, rather than focusing on College things.

Yeah, same old, pretty much.

[Giga Guess]

I'll see if I can get on, assuming you haven't gotten one already.

Not yet. Let me know what time is and date is good for you.

[Tavrobel]

GG got his xfer.

[Markus. D]

Can't play it on DAMNED Vista.

It works on my friends Vista-ish one though.

I'll never understand what made me choose Vista over XP :[

[CimminyCricket]

Slight retardation?

[Giga Guess]

Can't play it on DAMNED Vista.

It works on my friends Vista-ish one though.

I'll never understand what made me choose Vista over XP :[

Vista is the spawn of Satan.

[Nominus Experse]

I'm reinstalling Diablo II as we speak, so I'll soon waste some more time with Diablo and whoever else may be playing.

Yes, college is that boring.

[Giga Guess]

Median, Nom?

[Tavrobel]

Median, Nom?

Vanilla is too dry for our tastes.

[Nominus Experse]

I'll probably play both, though I'll spend much more time on Median than Vanilla.

I may fuck around with various hacks and the like, just to see what that end of the spectrum is like. I mean, hell, I haven't got much too lose now, right?

[Tavrobel]

I may smurf around with various hacks and the like, just to see what that end of the spectrum is like.

If you find a character editor for Median let me know. I've always wondered what it's like to be able to defeat Juris Khan. However, it'll probably be soon out of date: there's a new update expected.

[CimminyCricket]

What is Vanilla?

[Tavrobel]

What is Vanilla?

Diablo II and DII: Lord of Destruction. Vanilla, representing a flavor which is neutral and therefore untainted, is apt to be compared to a video game original intention and style of play that has a large variety of modifications to the structure, and that may be exercised.

So basically, it's the original version, not a mod.

[Nominus Experse]

I was talking about cheating Vanilla.

Cheating while on Median seems to be... silly, to me, for one reason or another. I doubt I could find anything anyway.

[CimminyCricket]

Clever.

[LunarWeaver]

I want to cheat at Median ;_; Hax plz. But I can never find any, and I wouldn't be an intelligent enough seal to make them function.

I haven't posted here for a long time. I think I'm going to eat confetti in celebration.

[CimminyCricket]

How about you eat :skull::skull::skull::skull: and die instead! >:c(

[Giga Guess]

How about you eat :skull::skull::skull::skull: and die instead! >:c(

Feel the Lurve.

[CimminyCricket]

Dead thread. :c(

[Tavrobel]

More or less, yeah. I'll ask Psychotic to deal with it.

Question.
Answered.
Closed.

[CimminyCricket]

Do not ask, demand!

[Tavrobel]

I thought that when I ask, a demand is implied.

[CimminyCricket]

I bet you're the only one that still plays.

[Tavrobel]

Yeah. I am. But we should stop spamming this thread up. Let it die in peace.

[CimminyCricket]

Never.

[KH-Cloudy]

Would anyone like to say anything more before this dying thread?
=(

[Tavrobel]

Wow, we made it through a year, surprisingly enough.

Not sure if there's anything that can be said that we haven't already said. We've had our ups, our downs, our disconnects, and our lag-fests. Epic finds. Epic fail. Either way, I'm proud to have led this community (let's face it, it's true) through our mis-adventures, and we were given a chance to bond with and get to know those who might not have spoken to or associated with otherwise.

I love this game, but things are not meant to last forever. Oddly enough, I still play on Median, and plan to get Hellgate: London in the near future. Ohh well, probably sounds like a sod-fest by now.

[KoShiatar]

Since only Tavrobel plays anymore, I'd better close it.
But if you want to open a new one, do so. Maybe this time I'll seriously get around to playing that game again.