Diablo 2: The Brother (And Sister)hood of EoFF

[SeeDRankLou]

So Tav, I made a game last night to trade for Nat's Mark and Helm, and no one answered for a while, so I minimized the window and started reading something online. I got very distracted, and like two hours later two things had happened. One, miracuously I didn't get kicked from the game. And two, someone wanted to trade for the helm. So the internet is working, and this whole trading thing can work, I guess I just have to be patient.

Hmmm, oh well.

[Tavrobel]

I'll see if I can personally obtain one.

Also, I'll TRY to stop making Spirit Swords, because I'm out of Thuls, Orts, and Amns. Plenty of Tals, though.

[Flying Mullet]

In the spirit of Spirit (great pun, eh?), if anyone finds a quality 4Os shield my necro would appreciate it. I need to make another +2 skills shield since I lost my stellar Heirophant Trophy that had a +2 sklls on it. :(

[Tavrobel]

Remember that your Necromancer needs at least 120 base Strength in order to equip a Spirit Shield, especially that of the lowest possible requirement with maximum Socket abilities, the Monarch (156). Otherwise, the Runeword itself provides a large bonus to spellcaster essential stats, and is in many ways, better than most shields. I guess I'll have to put my plans to trade for Vex on hold. 40 PGems should be able to catch Nat's stuff and a 4Os Monarch.

If you happen to have 219+ Str, I'll lend you mine, since my Barb is useless until I can get BotD to combine with LW.

[Flying Mullet]

My necromancer has 202 base strength. xD

I don't like him to miss out on being able to equip that high-end stuff. xD

I don't have any strength modifiers at the moment though, so don't worry about the loaner shield. I'm MF'ing right now anyway so I have a shrunken head with Rhyme on it equipped.

[SeeDRankLou]

40 PGems should be able to catch Nat's stuff and a 4Os Monarch.
I have 40 PGems myself if one set isn't enough.

So, I have a question. It's about dexterity. I currently have 200 dexterity on SRLkungfu. She hits about 3/4 of the time, and the kick hits about 80%. I can imagine those numbers are going to go down once I start act 3 and beyond, and more dex=more AR=more hitting. Should I keep putting points into dexterity or is that good?

[Tavrobel]

I don't know about Assassins, because I didn't use them. Traditionally, I would say enough to get max Block (if you are using dual claws and the skills Claw Block). It couldn't hurt, but since you are a melee character, some life can't hurt.

EDIT: I have found it necessary to expand my operations to a third account, Rothinzil. So add this. Currently, I am making a Fire Sorceress, Mar_Zoe.

[Flying Mullet]

I usually like to increase my attack rating through items and skills. You'll find that pumping 5 points into dexterity will (maybe) give you a 1% better chance of hitting an enemy. Also, I find the life boost more usefull for melee chars in hell.

[Cruise Control]

I need help with duriel. My level 23 auradin doesn't cut it. eoff trout Normal. Just chilling in Luht Gain.

And I have some uber equips. They say required level 8, and strength 66. I have a strength of 66 (without equips or buffs), and I'm level 23. But I can't equip it.

[Nominus Experse]

Your game seems to not exist CC....

[Cruise Control]

Wierd. It's an open. Does that make a difference?

[Nominus Experse]

Why are you in Open?

[Cruise Control]

Is there a difference? I picked the one that didn't require me to start at level one.

[Nominus Experse]

We all play on Battle.net, USEast Ladder. Playing Open is for the characters stored on your computer, not the net.

[Cruise Control]

Christ. This sucks. I don't wanna restart.
Game: eoff
Password: trout
Character: bbomber
Some gold would be great.

[Nominus Experse]

Uh... CC? You need to check the box that makes your character an Expansion character, otherwise I am unable to join. You can convert your character in the screen where you choose which character to play prior to making a game. Just click the box, etc...

EDIT: GIrlfriend came home. I will be off for a few hours.

[Cruise Control]

I don't have the expansion. T_T

Does that make me alone in the brotherhood?

[Flying Mullet]

I think everyone else is expansion.

[Tavrobel]

It does, but he's not on Expansion, so none of us can help except by objectively observing.

Make a donation to the CCD2:LoD, please. 20 dollars!

EDIT: Also, you need to check the box that says "Ladder" character. When you log onto Battle.net, it is supposed to automatically log you onto the Realms. Whether or not the character is Ladder is your choice (so make sure the tick is in the Realm character box, Ladder box, and NOT the Hardcore box).

Also, this is a quick guide to level, if you need to rush characters. SRL, I, and Mulley have characters that can rush, including my Barbarian, which can now do Hell rushes.

Level 1-5: level up by going through Act I
Get rush from friend until Ancients
6-15: Tristram runs (labelled as trist00#, or tristy#, or some variation on B.net)
16-20: level up by going through Act II
Get Ancients, must be at least level 20 for Ancients
21-25/30: cow games (labelled as I cow, or you make cows, or something that involves beef)
26/31-40/45/50: Baal runs, then kill Baal, get Nightmare rush (Baal, TacoBaal, w/e)
41/46/50-70+: Nightmare Baal runs/Cow games, then kill Baal
70-80: Get full Hell rush (if possible), then do Baal runs or Cows
80+: Chaos runs (I chaos you, variation)

ADDENDUM: I got got a BotD borrowed from friend for 4hrs, to be paid off witihin a month, one hr per week. Wish me luck.

[Nominus Experse]

I need someone to help me through the Viper Amulet quest: I can't make it to the temple due to the darkness hiding the monsters. So, literally, the darkness is killing me.

I traded for the two remaining pieces I needed to complete Trang-Oul's Avatar, and am very pleased, but for one thing:

There seems to be a bug in the set that causes the casting animation to be horrendously slow... Bone Necros need speed casting, so that ruined that idea...

Instead, I decided to revert back to my Lagmancer ways, using an earlier character. My minions and I are now invincible. I have my Skeleton Skills jacked all the way up to smurfing 30!

Whilst cruising about Nightmare, I decided to off-handedly slay Baal, and upon his death, he dropped a particular item, more specifically, a certain hat, something that looks like a particular green peasant hat...

[SeeDRankLou]

Yeah, that's a bug that even Blizzard knows about. Maybe if they release another patch they will fix it. I got my Shadow Master up to level 31 with the help of an ammy from Tav and a skill shrine. She's freaking invincible, I can't imagine a whole army of Shadow Masters. Hopefully your Skeletons have at least decent AI.

I now have three of the four pieces of Natalya's Odium. All I need now is Natalya's Mark and I'm set.

[Flying Mullet]

My skele's AI was superb when I had 31 in skeletons, skeleton mastery and skeletal mage. The only problem I ran into was with so many summons out if I ran too fast some would just disappear. Thus I had to run in spurts to make sure everyone could keep up.

[Tavrobel]

Whilst cruising about Nightmare, I decided to off-handedly slay Baal, and upon his death, he dropped a particular item, more specifically, a certain hat, something that looks like a particular green peasant hat...

I hate you.

Even with BotD and Last Wish.

Ohh, and if anyone finds a good 4Os Polearm (preferably an Elite version, such as a War Pike), please tell me. I am trying to make an Insight. Since I am dualwielding weapons, I will be strapped for mana. Preferably Ethereal if possible, but not necessary.

[Nominus Experse]

Tav, if you want, I could lend you the Harlequin Crest Shako for a bit since I am currently using only Trang-Oul's Avatar, which includes his helm.

However, once I am strong enough that I no longer need the complete set, I will want it back.

[SeeDRankLou]

Ohh, and if anyone finds a good 4Os Polearm (preferably an Elite version, such as a War Pike), please tell me. I am trying to make an Insight. Since I am dualwielding weapons, I will be strapped for mana. Preferably Ethereal if possible, but not necessary.
Tav, Insight will only work on a polearm or a stave, not a spear. A War Pike is a spear. I know the runes for Insight are cheap, but still, make sure you use a polearm and not a spear. The strength requirements for elite polearms can be pretty steep, and the one that has decent requirements (a Thresher) has a rather low minimum damage. Of course it depends on what other equipment you give your merc. If you can get his strength up to 165, then a Cryptic Axe is the way to go, but unless you can do that a Partizan has pretty decent attack and low strength requirement. It's up to you, just don't use a spear.

[Tavrobel]

I gave my Mercenary Arioc's Needle instead.

And I doubt I will use the Shako unless I go back to using my MF Paladin, which is possible.

[Nominus Experse]

Made it through Act I in Hell with no problem, besides lag issues. But having a grand meat wall of thirty-five or so helps when it comes to the lagmonster rearing its ugly, repugnant face.

And Tav, I already want my Shako back...

[Cruise Control]

Level 1-5: level up by going through Act I
Get rush from friend until Ancients
6-15: Tristram runs (labelled as trist00#, or tristy#, or some variation on B.net)
16-20: level up by going through Act II
Get Ancients, must be at least level 20 for Ancients
21-25/30: cow games (labelled as I cow, or you make cows, or something that involves beef)
26/31-40/45/50: Baal runs, then kill Baal, get Nightmare rush (Baal, TacoBaal, w/e)
41/46/50-70+: Nightmare Baal runs/Cow games, then kill Baal
70-80: Get full Hell rush (if possible), then do Baal runs or Cows
80+: Chaos runs (I chaos you, variation)
What the hell?

[Flying Mullet]

He's listing the best places to level up (and look for good item drops) when you're at the respective levels.

[Nominus Experse]

Nominus made it through Act II with no difficulty. Duriel never seemed so easy...

Found a Rockstopper and the helm to the Aldur set, if anyone wants them.

[Flying Mullet]

I have a level 15 druid that can use the helm eventually if GG doesn't want it.

[Tavrobel]

Made it through Act I in Hell with no problem, besides lag issues. But having a grand meat wall of thirty-five or so helps when it comes to the lagmonster rearing its ugly, repugnant face.

And Tav, I already want my Shako back...

Damnit.

[Cruise Control]

Well that makes him a God (note capital G).

[Giga Guess]

A Harlequin Quest AND a Druid's Helm?! Hrmmm...I think I'm gonna log on.

[EDIT] Oh...no one's on...

[Tavrobel]

Shako's is Nom's, and the Aldur's Helm, well, I've got two of them. Jalal's is WAY better, and worth a high rune. Good thing I found it with my MFDin!

I'll be on in a bit.

EDIT: So I was just walking along casually when I happened to run into a Unique monster that dropped a HoZ.

And Nom got his Shako back *cries*

[Nominus Experse]

Shako shako shako!
:choc2: :choc2: :choc2:

Tav helped me through Act III because he is a dear. Karma looked well upon him and gave him a HoZ, which is insane and ever so lovely.

[Tavrobel]

Ironically enough, my Spirit Shield is better than HoZ on a spellcaster Paladin, but there are those who could use my HoZ. After all, HoZ is worth many, and I repeat, many high runes.

[Giga Guess]

Drop me a line when you're logging in, please, Tav.

[Tavrobel]

I'm already on.

[Nominus Experse]

Found Scarbshell Sandtrack Boots if anyone wants them.

And Tav, I'll be on later today at around 4:00 or 6:00 if you still need a xfer.

[SeeDRankLou]

If anyone has a spare Ko rune may I have it? Pretty please? :D

[Tavrobel]

I'll consider it.

Ohh, and if someone finds a 450+ defense Archon Plate with 3Os, tell me. I have recently found the items required to make myself this shiny thing called Enigma.

EDIT: We need to find a way to get LoD for Cruise Control.

[Giga Guess]

Question. The Lilith quest. I'm assuming this is a Hell only things?

[Tavrobel]

Yes.

Pandamonium event is a uber character thing only. No hybrid or poorly built character could hope to survive in those areas, partially because of the immunities and the high amounts of HP for enemies.

Essentially, what you do, is do a bunch of Countess (Black Marsh's The Tower), Summoner (Arcane Sanctuary), and Nihlatak (Halls of Vaught), which drop the three keys, Hate, Destruction, and Terror keys. after synthesyzing them in the Cube, you get to fight an uber boss, Litith (Andariel palette swap), Uber Duriel (Hell palette), and Uber Izual (normal colors). They drop the Brain, eye, and Heart of the three Brothers. When the organs are synthesized together, they lead to Uber Tristram, where you fight Uber Mephisto, Uber Baal, and Pandamonium Diablo. The last one that dies drops a Torch, a Large Charm with random +3 skills to a certain class, and random + attributes, and random + resistances.

[Giga Guess]

Hrmmm...does it have to be done solo, or can I ask for help?

[Tavrobel]

You can get help, but only one Torch will drop. In addition, a character can only hold one Torch at a time. The last brother killed will also drop one Standard of Heroes per character in game. All these signify is that you beat Pandamonium Event, and you can hold as many as you'd like. Ignore the level requirement, because it does nothing.

The portals can only be opened in Harrogath, Hell mode. Enemies also begin spawning when you enter, and are considerably more difficult than most enemies, despite how similar they look.

If you want to solo Pandamonium, the only character that can do it is a Frenzy Barbarian with level 20 Berserk Synergy and the best possible gear, or, the more popular alternative, a Smiter with the best equipment that Diablo 2 can afford.

[Giga Guess]

LOL! So basically, help isn't something that I can ask for, it's pretty much a necessity.

BTW, my knowledge of runes is, to be polite, limited. Jah + Ith + Ber. I forget the name, but I saw an armor with them in it, and it was quite good. How many firstborns will I have to sell to get my hands on 'em?

[Tavrobel]

Yes. Even I can't do Uber Tristram with my Barbarian, or my Hammerdin yet. I can do the Key Runs, but there's no guarantee that I will survive, since the Countess spawns Physical Immunes in her croft.

40 or more, each firstborn meaning a Perfect Gem, and one for Jah and Ber. Ith can be found rather frequently, so no cost there. The Armor is called Enigma, and it is considered the BEST runeword in the game, even better than Last Wish, Jah + Mal + Jah + Sur + Jah + Ber, and Breath of the Dying, Vex + Hel + El + Eld + Zod + Eth, two equally respected weapon runewords.

I already have Jah, Ith, and Ber. All I need now is the 3Os Archon Plate, which is the optimal equipment for Enigma.

[Giga Guess]

:( No lovin' for the Giga?

*ducks flying blunt object* KIDDING! Kidding!

[Tavrobel]

The only reason I'm so rich is because I haven't stopped playing.

My Fire Sorceress can even make me fried chicken. But I prefer my Beef RARE; five seconds on each side.

[Giga Guess]

Reminds me of the 8-Bit Theater comment.

"It was flash fried in 6 seconds. It was dead for 5."

[SeeDRankLou]

Thanks for the charm Tav. That and remembering that I had the Fade ability (I am so used to using Burst of Speed), I was able to get through the Gloams and such and kill Mephisto. I can now to Travincal runs. Don't know if I should try hell yet, the gloam types might get the better of me.

[Tavrobel]

Gloams don't appear in Hell Travincal, and surprisingly enough, Hell Travincal is arguably more difficult than anything in the previous acts, whether for MF or for experience. You can continue through Hell, if you'd like, you seem to be strong enough to handle it.

In Hell Travincal, the enemy pattern is always the same.

Zealots (Animal)
Heirophant, uses Blizzard, Lightning, but not nearly as good as a Gloam Lightning (Animal)
Water Watchers, uses Poison Knockback attack skills (Animal)
Death Lords, uses Fire Ball, Meteor, and Fire Wall (Demons)
Council (Demons)

Also, at level eighty, you'll pretty much stop gaining levels without outside help, or unless you can go through the entire game without dying more than once per act (with the exception of Act IV).

EDIT: I told you that one of these days, those Spirits would pay off! One of my 35% Spirit Broad Swords just netted me 2 Mals, 2 Ists, and a Vex! Not an actual show of how valuable Spirit is, but it was totally worth it.

[SeeDRankLou]

Oh, when I said hell I meant act IV, not hell difficulty. I did the travincal on hell difficulty, died once, but it was my own fault. Surprisingly didn't die once while fighting Mephisto, and only used three full rejuvinication potions, and not a one for my merc (shadow master died several times though). Got a really crappy drop from him though, especially considering I ran into at least 10 unique items on my way to him.

Edit: I have a question about stacking "X% extra gold from monsters". I got an ethereal Crown of Thieves, and I gave it to my merc. So now he has 83% more gold from monsters. Does that just work for his kills, or does mine add to his and now all the kills are the cumulative sum?

[Tavrobel]

You should be fine, I thinks.

EDIT: Gold and MF work in the same way, so gold I believe is cumulative, if the merc scores the kill.

ADDENDUM: GG owes me his firstborn, since I just traded a high rune for Aldur's Armor.

[Nominus Experse]

If anyone can spare the time when they see me on Diablo, could they graciously give me the City of the Damned WP? I have traveled there three times now, and each time it has kicked me off.

I am rather tired of fighting Burning Souls since they utterly destroy my minions, not to mention my Full Rejuvs...

[Giga Guess]

You should be fine, I thinks.

EDIT: Gold and MF work in the same way, so gold I believe is cumulative, if the merc scores the kill.

ADDENDUM: GG owes me his firstborn, since I just traded a high rune for Aldur's Armor.

I just crated up Mouse, and he should be at your place in 6 to 8 weeks.

[Tavrobel]

If anyone can spare the time when they see me on Diablo, could they graciously give me the City of the Damned WP? I have traveled there three times now, and each time it has kicked me off.

I am rather tired of fighting Burning Souls since they utterly destroy my minions, not to mention my Full Rejuvs...

I've got it in Hell on Necro and Barb.

[Giga Guess]

I may hit you up later to assist me in taking out Nihlathak.

Oh, and I can *FINALLY* use Gheed's Fortune.

[Tavrobel]

I think there should be monuments to my generosity.

[Giga Guess]

Yes, yes there should.

I don't think I am a high enough level to go into Hell difficulty...ah well.

[SeeDRankLou]

Yeah, Tav gave up a Cham for me. I think that actually finding Nat's Claws would have been far easier than finding a Cham, so his generosity is quite appreciated. And now my assassin has that cool fade look that comes with completing the set. And also, thanks in part to Tav and in another part to GigaGuess, I am now in the positive with all my resists in hell, and I have 80 to poison resist. I forgot that the set gives +50 to all resists. I think I'm ready for act IV in hell now.

[Nominus Experse]

How much is an Um rune worth?

[SeeDRankLou]

Um is a decently rare rune, you could get most any non-runeword item from other players. You could probably even trade for a slight higher rune if that person has a higher rune but no use for it, and they need an Um.

There are two rather good runewords using an Um. The first is Chains of Honor, which makes an extremely good and versatile armor, especially with the +65 to resist all. The second is for Chaos, and two of this runeword are pretty necessary for the ellusive Whirlwind Assassin build. So you'll be rather popular with an Um. In fact, you might want to just hang onto it, and trade other things for making a Chains of Honor for yourself (if you want).

Unless you are wanting a specific item or something, make a game called "Um 4 trade" and see what people are will to trade for it. You might get some good stuff, or a better rune.

[Nominus Experse]

Thanks - I'll hold onto it for a bit

[Giga Guess]

Is there a minimum level to enter Hell difficulty?

[Nominus Experse]

No, as far as I know. I think the only requirement of Hell is to somehow survive.

[SeeDRankLou]

Is there a minimum level to enter Hell difficulty?
Here's how you can tell if you are ready for hell. In the very first area where the Den of Evil is, go out and find a unique zombie monster. There will be at least one. If you can't even make a dent in it before it hits you maybe twice and nearly kills you, you are not ready for hell.

[Giga Guess]

No, I mean last time I made a game, Hell wasn't even available.

[SeeDRankLou]

The last time you made a game, had you already beaten Baal in nightmare? With that character?

[Giga Guess]

NM. I tried again, I must've just overlooked it. But yes, I need more time to level up. :p

[SeeDRankLou]

OK, so.....

The devil takes true form when it presents itself as FREAKING IRON MAIDEN!!!! OMG...OMG...OH MY GOD!!!! My merc died at least 10 times by himself, not to mention the times he died when I died. Those damn Oblivion Mages were so damn cunning with when they cast Iron Maiden, one they were off screen so I didn't even know I was in range, two they usually did it right before I was about to perform a full power Dragon Talon, which for me can do up to 20k damage (including poison), and my 875ish HP is no match for that. I am even no match for my normal attack. But after dieing 3 times, I finally got to Diablo. And I was so very very close to killing him when I ran out of full rejuvinication potions without realizing it and died. But I eventually got him, 3 rares, but I only had 100ish mf, so I wasn't expecting much.

I am now in act 5, and this is the first time while playing this game that I have ever been this far into hell, I'm excited.

[Giga Guess]

*applauds.*

[Tavrobel]

How much is an Um rune worth?

It is the lowest of the high runes. High runes have roughly the same values of other high runes, but some are more valuable than others. Um is cradled in between the middle runes and the high runes, which makes it worth just about any valuable Unique (such as Jalal's or Shako), but also worth high runes, such as Mal (best trade value), Ist or Jah (best usage value), and Ber (which is arguably the best of the high runes before Zod).


Is there a minimum level to enter Hell difficulty?

60 for Ancients. 75+ is recommended to get the best of the possible experience, based on monster levels, and ease of difficulty in killing monsters (as in, not using 16 Potions to kill one champion).

[CimminyCricket]

Gaw! I can never find a cow game... >< its annoying as crap, why does East suck so much?

[Giga Guess]

Is there a minimum level to enter Hell difficulty?

60 for Ancients. 75+ is recommended to get the best of the possible experience, based on monster levels, and ease of difficulty in killing monsters (as in, not using 16 Potions to kill one champion).

Kewl...I may be hitting you up the line to help me grind a bit, if it doesn't offend you. I'd like to go into Hell with my full Aldur's set.

[Tavrobel]

Gaw! I can never find a cow game... >< its annoying as crap, why does East suck so much?

What's you account name?

We have better Baal runs and Chaoses than West. Our trading system is also slightly better than Europe and Asia. But Psychotic lives in Europe, so we obviously could not do that.

But apparently, we have incompetents for Cow games.

[CimminyCricket]

My account name is RebellionCraft.


And I found one but there's one problem, we keep dying lmto

[Giga Guess]

My account name is RebellionCraft.


And I found one but there's one problem, we keep dying lmto

What difficulty?

[Tavrobel]

I think we just found out.

LOL Battle.net wins for tagging me every three seconds.

[CimminyCricket]

Thanks, Tavrobel + GigaGuess! :cD

[Giga Guess]

:) No prob. If you want a quest rush, I might be on tonight, so...just lemme know.

[Tavrobel]

GG, if you check your PMs, you can ignore the one labelled as "xfer."

EDIT: I win, Battle.net! I now have the full, completed, shiny, and the very purple Tal Rasha's Wrappings Set!

[CimminyCricket]

battle.net hates me, I swear to gods, battle.net hates me

[Tavrobel]

battle.net hates me, I swear to gods, battle.net hates me

It hates everyone that doesn't play WoW. And even then, Blizzard hates the people that play on WoW.

Even Mistress Lekana.

[Giga Guess]

battle.net hates me, I swear to gods, battle.net hates me

It hates everyone that doesn't play WoW. And even then, Blizzard hates the people that play on WoW.

Even Mistress Lekana.

Battle.net is a fickle mistress, definitely a love-hate relationship with all her lovers.

[Tavrobel]

No, I'm fairly sure that it is just hateful and vengeful feelings.

[Giga Guess]

Oh, no...sometimes she's nice and gives me many shiny things, other times she...well lets just edit this for decency of the forums.

[CimminyCricket]

I just think she needs to get a little younger is all...
maybe have a daughter or something....new.

[Tavrobel]

Are we still talking about Lekana Blizzard? Because if so, then that's a little disturbing talking about my wife like that then you are all right on the ball s.

Ohh, and I'm going to update the EoFF Diablo 2 players cheatsheet chart on the first page. Let me know if there are any major changes.

[SeeDRankLou]

You can add SRLcoldzap to my list (lightning sorc with frozen orb back-up). I just started her yesterday.

And SRLkungfu is three steps away from being Matriarch. :D

[Tavrobel]

Matriarch.

[Giga Guess]

BTW, if anyone's interested, I found a Graverobber's Charm of Sustenance. +1 to Necro summons, plus 36 to life, I believe.

[Flying Mullet]

*drools*

[Giga Guess]

Can you be on right now?

[Tavrobel]

BTW, if anyone's interested, I found a Graverobber's Charm of Sustenance. +1 to Necro summons, plus 36 to life, I believe.

Another high rune(s) for GG, right there.

Ohh, and by the way, Grand Charms with +1 [skill to character's techtree] are worth one high rune. Ones with Faster Hit Recovery, Faster Cast Rate, Run Speed, Life, Mana, or Resists are worth 2 high runes are more. Sorceress techtrees (fire, lite, ice), Paladin Combat tree (pcombs only) and Assassin Trap Tree (traps only) go for four high runes or more.

Ohh, and for a warning, expect PMs, as I'll be updating the character chart for Diablo 2. Details will await you.

Also, I am considering deleting my Bone Necro, since I built it wrong, have not that great equipment, screwed up, and are not having fun with it dying every three seconds. I'll be needing both an xfer, and the next lucky Necro that helps me out when I require it will get my items (if I'm willing to give them away).

[Flying Mullet]

Anytime you need to xfer if I'm on AIM ping me and I can log in and leave my char on in the background as I work (as usual).

[SeeDRankLou]

What's up with Tomb Vipers? I went to kill Nihlathak and these Claw Viper-like monster that had a poison projectile attack (Tomb Vipers) did this thing where they would hit me and it sounded like they were hitting me 10-20 times very rapidly and I would die almost instantly, same for my merc. What's up with that, my poison resist is 80 right now? Is that right?

[Tavrobel]

Yeah, Vipers with Poison attacks have a skill level above 15.

Astonishingly enough, Mercenaries last alot longer than any of us.

[Giga Guess]

BTW, if anyone's interested, I found a Graverobber's Charm of Sustenance. +1 to Necro summons, plus 36 to life, I believe.

Another high rune(s) for GG, right there.

Ohh, and by the way, Grand Charms with +1 [skill to character's techtree] are worth one high rune. Ones with Faster Hit Recovery, Faster Cast Rate, Run Speed, Life, Mana, or Resists are worth 2 high runes are more. Sorceress techtrees (fire, lite, ice), Paladin Combat tree (pcombs only) and Assassin Trap Tree (traps only) go for four high runes or more.

Ohh, and for a warning, expect PMs, as I'll be updating the character chart for Diablo 2. Details will await you.

Also, I am considering deleting my Bone Necro, since I built it wrong, have not that great equipment, screwed up, and are not having fun with it dying every three seconds. I'll be needing both an xfer, and the next lucky Necro that helps me out when I require it will get my items (if I'm willing to give them away).

High Rune notwithstanding, Mully's claimed it, and I'd rather give it to one of the people who have helped me so much than to trade it off...now if there were no takers...Heh heh heh...

[EDIT!] W00t! Another level! I'm now up to Level 67...only 9 more levels 'til I can go full Aldur's. I'm reiterating my request for decent Jewels (One of the Uniques is ideal, but rare/just plain good buffs is cool too...I'd say resistances is my priority, but I wanna see what the additional bonus from Aldur's armor brings me to...) Also, I'm on my computer in the Morning from about 6-7AM MST, Mully, so drop me a line if you're still interested in that charm.

[Nominus Experse]

Found some things, if anyone wants to have them:

[Nominus Experse]

And:

[Flying Mullet]

Well that was fun. I just did a Hell Andy run and a random normal Zombie dropped Ali Babas and Andy dropped Goldwrap. That puts my MF over 500%! :D

I also found a nice unique elite bow (attached image) if anyone's interested.

And Nominus, I could use the Trang Oul's gloves since I need to recollect the set.

[Nominus Experse]

PM me when you're on, Mulley

[Tavrobel]

Well that was fun. I just did a Hell Andy run and a random normal Zombie dropped Ali Babas and Andy dropped Goldwrap. That puts my MF over 500%! :D

And Nominus, I could use the Trang Oul's gloves since I need to recollect the set.

Barbarian: 106, Skullder's Ire, +PTopaz, 24
Dual Isted Ali Baba's: 86+86+60+60
Rings: 14+15 (26+28 if Nagels)
IK Gloves and boots: 25%
IK Helm: 75%
+4 from charms, +34 from Gheeds

But more importantly, when you get on, I'll be giving you my Necro's items, since I'm going to delete it for space. I've got Trang's Armor, Gloves, and some other useful items.

[Giga Guess]

I'm not sure if I want Mahim-Oak's Curio or not...

[Flying Mullet]

Whew, just beat Hell Baal to make my necro a Patriarch. Baal also dropped the attached items if anyone needs them.

[CimminyCricket]

Ooo, monkey man, that's a nice wizard spike! XcD

[Tavrobel]

So me and SRL were playing a Baal game, so that he could Matriarch his Assassin. Halfway through the run, it lags horribly, but that's not the bad part. Half the time I couldn't click on anything, and my Lifetap REFUSED to cooperate, so I had to rely on Berserk to kill the Physical Immunes, of which we ran into endless droves of. We get to Baal's minions, and the game speeds back up. I die twice IN TOWN, lost half of my EXP, and my money, of which I was overflowing from my stash, was reduced to a mere 1.6 million gold. I kill Baal with my Dual Ali Baba's, of which he dropped not a single useful unique for SRL's Baal quest. I try to Travincal, and wind up using half of my Full Rejuvination Potions (I only have eight left, now). Not a happy day.

Smurfing load of crap. At least I found an Um rune in the minions chamber.

[Flying Mullet]

I just traded a Ko for a Lem so I have the runes for Delirium, I just need a high quality 3 socket helm now...

[Tavrobel]

Bone Visages or Diadems.

EDIT: He got a Superior Crown and Fal from me, and I in exchange, got a low HOTO. Bloody smurf.

[Flying Mullet]

Well I managed to trade for a Lem and Tav gave me a 3 socket grand crown so now I sport a sexy Delirium helm. :love:

I also traded and got Homonculus so my Necro is even better than it was before I lost everything in a lagged xfer. :love:

[Tavrobel]

I traded a 4Os Phase Blade for 2 Facets and Thundegod's Vigor.

Those are 4 high runes, while Os'd pbs are worth only one high rune.

Great, now I'm tagged on all of my accounts.

[Flying Mullet]

Bone Visages or Diadems.

EDIT: He got a Superior Crown and Fal from me, and I in exchange, got a low HOTO. Bloody smurf.
I still gave you the Pul you needed for it. :p

Edit: bnet's not letting me into any games so I'll take that as a hint and go work on my website instead...

[SeeDRankLou]

Hey Mulley, how are you liking the Delerium helm? I have the runes for one, and I was thinking of giving one to my merc, I figure the AI could probably use a Bone Fetish better than I could (on the rare occassion that it happens).

Also, I was reading through the various runewords and thought of something (that's probably already been thought of, but still). I know it's expensive, but if I take a defensive Act 2 nm merc (Holy Freeze), give him a Dream helm (Holy Shock), a Dragon armor (Holy Fire), and an Infinity polearm (Conviction), how effective would that be? I mean it sounds pretty decently powerful for a merc, but would it actually be?

[Tavrobel]

Depends on how high the Holy skills are, that simple.

[Giga Guess]

FACETS?! I am SO there!

[Tavrobel]

They're gone, and by the way, ALWAYS recheck your trade screen when trading.

I've learned this lesson the hard way.

[CimminyCricket]

Ooo, they did a switch on you eh? I've had that happen, once or twice, not a biggie.

Anyway, Tomorrow! I will be on for a LONG ass time, so anyone on should message me on D2 and we can play :c)

My account name is on here somewhere.

[Giga Guess]

They're gone, and by the way, ALWAYS recheck your trade screen when trading.

I've learned this lesson the hard way.

Ooooh...I think I know what happened. That's cold.

[Tavrobel]

This has not been a good week for me, that it has not.

[CimminyCricket]

You'll recover :c)

[Tavrobel]

I was meaning about my life in general, but I guess that works, too.

[Giga Guess]

I was meaning about my life in general, but I guess that works, too.


If you wish, tomorrow we can kick the snot outta Baal a few times. I'm looking to level up like mad, you have some frustrations to take out...win-win baby!

[Edit] I've been coming across LOADS of Full Rejuvs lately...I'll start hoarding them, so if y'all ever need a restock, I'll do my best to oblige.

[CimminyCricket]

You'll recover :c)

:c) It goes for everything.

[Giga Guess]

Oh, I almost forgot. I've stashed a Fungal Grand Charm (+1 to Poison and Bone Skills), so if anyone wants it...

[Nominus Experse]

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!

*Ahem... Yes, I would like that.

[Flying Mullet]

A +1 Grand Charm for the Magic Boner.

I just had to write that. :p

[CimminyCricket]

Hey, who is going to be on tonight? I'm looking to do a few baal runs till 45 on my pally and druid, anyone open to help? Afterwards maybe get me to nightmare baal? :c)
Please? Please?

Also...


I was meaning about my life in general, but I guess that works, too.


If you wish, tomorrow we can kick the snot outta Baal a few times. I'm looking to level up like mad, you have some frustrations to take out...win-win baby!



lmto, I can see Tav clicking furiously, screaming, and crying and yelling all dramatically and such.

[Flying Mullet]

Alright, I found a tastey 6 socket Lance. :) Now I can start working on the runes for BotD...

[Tavrobel]

It's better to find a Etheral Spear, since Zod is innately Indestructible, nor does a mercenary drain durability.

[Flying Mullet]

If I find one before I get the runes then I'll look into it.

[SeeDRankLou]

GG, that's going to start happening in Hell regularly. Eventually, you should replace all of your potions on your belt with Full Rejuvs, and maybe keep a few in your stash as back-up. You never when you are going to encounter an Extra Strong, Extra Fast, Stone Skin, Mana Burn, Multi-Shot, Lightning Enchanted, Cold Enchanted projectile super unique and you'll need to use like five of them just to run away from it. It happens more often than you might expect.

Mulley, are you sure you want to use that on a Lance? You could use a six-socket one handed sword or flail and still have a shield (I run into six-socket swords all the time in hell). Are you making this for your necro?

[Flying Mullet]

It's for my merc. My necro has Loric's wand now so he'll never need another weapon again. :D

[Tavrobel]

Mulley, are you sure you want to use that on a Lance? You could use a six-socket one handed sword or flail and still have a shield (I run into six-socket swords all the time in hell). Are you making this for your necro?

LOL a Necro with BotD. How quaint.

Also, after I'm done eating, I've finished updating the player informations (with people who have provided me with such), and from that poin on, I'll be doing what I usually do: Hell Travincal with a mix of Shenk and Eldritch.

[Flying Mullet]

And if bnet will quit lagging I'm going to mosey around Hell with my MF equipment on and get any waypoints that I missed.

Edit: So in creating the cow level, I got a 3 socket Wirt's Leg. I was thinking about how funny it would be to make a higher-end rune word with it and offer it when trading. :)

[Tavrobel]

Runewords don't work in Wirt's Leg.

[Flying Mullet]

Well they should. :chef:

Anyways, I found a +3 passive/magic ammy for an amazon if anyone wants it.

[Tavrobel]

Great, I got kicked off, and I remeber where I put my good Spirit, too.

[Flying Mullet]

Yeah, I just got kicked off too, but it makes for a good story:

So I'm trying to trade for a Ko and the person asks what runes I have. I tell them a Fal, Lum and Um. They tell me they'll trade the Ko for the Um. I say no way, not straight up. So they offer a Ko AND Shael, which I laugh at. After I tell them no, they actually have the nerve to offer a Ko and an Ort, a freakin' Ort. At this time bnet diconnected me, which is a good thing, because I wouldn't have been very polite to the person. :smash:

[Tavrobel]

That's the LOL. Either way, don't do Um for Ko+anything, since Um alone is 3 Ko runes. Um is a high rune (the lowest of), and therefore, incredibly valuable.

[CimminyCricket]

Gwah! You guys got kicked off instead of me? that sucks.
Anywa, Tav I remembered the name of my pally after i logged on, you want me to pm them to you or what?

When someone gets the chance, I can make cows, but I need someone to kill them for me while I run and hide like the assassin that I am.

[CimminyCricket]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/Hagaisyourgod/Screenshot001.jpg
lmto, this was unbelievable...I didn't know wtf to do.
Anyway sorry its so big I dunno how to make its maller.

[Tavrobel]

Use an image editing program, like Photoshop, or GIMP, or good old fashioned PAINT!

Remake game, either that or this was in Hell, and DClone was going to show up.

[CimminyCricket]

Oh, ok, it was in normal
I was level 4
and that was all
I finished the quest but I was like WTF for a while.

[Giga Guess]

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!

*Ahem... Yes, I would like that.

When can you meet up?

[Edit] Christ, I'm becoming a Necromancer's best friend here, aren't I. 2 Decent charms already...

[Editra]] Hey, unfortunately, I have to run, Tav, so I dunno if you were looking forward to Baal runs, but unfortunately something came up tonight. Sorry!

[Tavrobel]

[Editra]] Hey, unfortunately, I have to run, Tav, so I dunno if you were looking forward to Baal runs, but unfortunately something came up tonight. Sorry!

It's fine.

EDIT: My dear God, you can pick up an obscene amount of items just by running through the game and picking up Gems and Runes. My stash is filled to the peak with items that I can't use, for they need to be synthesized with the other gems. I need an xfer, please, from whoever sees this first.

[Nominus Experse]

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!

*Ahem... Yes, I would like that.

When can you meet up?

I will be awake and about at 3:30 PM Pacific Time, so if that works out, simply show up in a game called Gimme/gimme.

If not, PM me.

[Giga Guess]

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!!!

*Ahem... Yes, I would like that.

When can you meet up?

I will be awake and about at 3:30 PM Pacific Time, so if that works out, simply show up in a game called Gimme/gimme.

If not, PM me.

So that's, what, 2:30 here?

[Tavrobel]

C'mon guys, kill the quote pyramids; they are stretching the tables.

[Giga Guess]

:( Awww....

[Edit] Cimanim (RebellionCraft) has the charm, Nom. Hunt him down later.

[CimminyCricket]

:( Awww....

[Edit] Cimanim (RebellionCraft) has the charm, Nom. Hunt him down later.

Hunt? I'm being hunted now? Oh, jeez there's not a target on my shirt is there? -_-' Meh, this is so unfair.

[Tavrobel]

That's Diablo for you!

EDIT: Mulley, when you see this, this is the updated character information sheet.

ADDIITON: theundeadhero has not given me his player information, as well as KH-Cloudy, so Cloudy has been listed as "retired."

[Giga Guess]

:( Awww....

[Edit] Cimanim (RebellionCraft) has the charm, Nom. Hunt him down later.

Hunt? I'm being hunted now? Oh, jeez there's not a target on my shirt is there? -_-' Meh, this is so unfair.

Heeheehee...have fun.

[Tavrobel]

Aww, damn, I forgot Tsukasa on the list. Ohh, well.

[CimminyCricket]

oops, giga should you check this in the next few minutes, bnet just pwned me again

I'll get on as soon as I can

[Giga Guess]

So once and for all, is there any way I can complete Cain's after the fact?

[CimminyCricket]

Yes, just make a game that has some variation of "Get Cain" and do the quest, if you were on I'd help :c) And let Tav go do whatever :c)

[Giga Guess]

So I just need to help someone get Cain on Hell difficulty.

[Tavrobel]

I can do that, but you know, you can still do Cain when you get into Act 2.

[Giga Guess]

Cool.

[CimminyCricket]

Ah! Gosh darned battle.net! I'm almost level 65 almost, but nooo they refuse to let me back on....WTH.

I'm fine now :c)

[Tavrobel]

You were either changing characters too quickly, you were realm downed for hacking, the realms actually are down for maintenence, your CD-Key was caught in lag and now it is being used by an untimed-out IP, or Blizzard picked your CD-Key out of a lineup and decided to randomly enforce "February is full of jerks" month.

[CimminyCricket]

gah, I can't use east at all >< this is bull shizit, I don't know how to hack, I'm sure someone else is on east, I can get into west and the like, and why would someone be a jerk to little ol' me?

Edit: oh and I had just switched a char for the first time in an hour so...
DAMN....I'm sorry.

[Tavrobel]

They say that life is like a box of chocolates.

You never know when you'll nbeed to move some uber-duber items to mules.

EDIT: After posting this, I have found myself my very own Shako. TAKE THAT BATTLE.NET!

ADDITION: And a 20 Life Small Charm. That's two high runes in less than an hour.

ADDENDUM: I need an xfer. And I mean BAD.

[SeeDRankLou]

Dammit. My account has been restricted. I guess I'm done for the day.

[Giga Guess]

Almost Lvl. 72...Almost there...

[Flying Mullet]

EDIT: Mulley, when you see this, this is the updated character information sheet.
Uploaded. :chef:

http://www.homemade-websites.com/eoffdiablogroup.php

[Nominus Experse]

I'm thinking of trying out a Bowazon, so if anyone could keep an eye out for items that would benefit that class, that would be most appreciated. Also, if anyone would be kind enough to keep an eye out for low-level awesome weapons, that'd be swell.

I have decided that it would be best to try a new class for one reason: although I have played Diablo II for three years now, I have never been anything but Necromancers... So I hope to give Diablo some new flair by being a new class. We'll see how it turns out, eh?

[Flying Mullet]

Most of the items that I'm saving now are level 40+, but I do have a few lower level items, such as Hsarus' Set, if you're interested (level 3).

[Nominus Experse]

Thanks Mulley :)

And for those that wish to know, my character's name is Faeritha.

[Tavrobel]

I have a fair assortment of low level Sets and items (Arctic and Vidala), as well as equipment. However, as far as weapons go, the only REAL weapons that a Bowazon can use are Faith, Ohm + Jah + Lem + Eld, and BotD, Vex + Hel + El + Eld + Zod + Eth. Good luck for those! Collossus Crossbows bows are your best best as far as sockets and damage go.

For you attack skill, either go Strafe with Cold or Fire backup, or full elemental techtree with synergies.


Uploaded. :chef:

I'll be managing this with updates everyone once in awhile. If anyone has a change, PM me for the next update session (I am not going to go through the posts in this thread, checking for each marker).

Also, everyone, check the updated character page for all accounts. I don't want to have to switch accounts, and then switch back on, just because I can't talk to one of you because of not having me on my friends list. I also have a new account, Serinde.

[Flying Mullet]

I made a couple of minor updates to my info before uploading the page so when you're ready to do more updates let me know and I'll send you the latest version of the page.

[Tavrobel]

I made a couple of minor updates to my info before uploading the page so when you're ready to do more updates let me know and I'll send you the latest version of the page.

Don't worry, I can get the page source.

[SeeDRankLou]

Ok, so I was really bored yesterday and went from the Arcane Sanctuary to the River of Flame in one sitting. It lagged like 673131 times, but it never kicked me. Guess I got lucky. And I didn't see anyone on last night either. Hmmm, guess it was a typical Monday then. Ah well.

[Tavrobel]

I technically was on, but I was using my Rothinzil account, which doesn't have any friends on it, except Mulley and rusherkilla (my very, very, very, rich friend who's lost 30 hrs worth of items in a single night and still survive).

[Flying Mullet]

I don't know how much I'll be playing D2 during the coming weeks since FFVI Advance was just released and I picked up my copy today...

[Tavrobel]

I don't know how much I'll be playing D2 during the coming weeks since FFVI Advance was just released and I picked up my copy today...

Somehow, I kind of expected that.

EDIT: remember not to toss +skills Grand Charms. PCombs (one of which I just found) are worth 10+ high runes, while others are closer to anywhere from 2-6.

[Nominus Experse]

*cue naive Nominus

What's a PComb?

[Tavrobel]

Grand Charm with +1 to all Paladin Combat Skills. The Suffix can be anything; +life or +mana are worth most.

[Flying Mullet]

I haven't found any ones with a suffix yet, just the +1 skills, but they're still tastey.

[Tavrobel]

No suffix at all is only 8 high runes, but delicious!

[CimminyCricket]

Wow, what things are worth have really changed in the 8 months I haven't played. It's really bad. Shako's apparently are worth more than pul (they used to be pul along with homunculus and occulus), now apparently its worth 2-3 high runes, which is ridiculous. and PCcharms 10+ highrunes? When the hell did that one happen. They were 2+4 hrs, 5 if you got a nice life or mana addition to it. Man,greedy farts.

[Flying Mullet]

I'm guessing that as time has gone on, more high runes entered the market, thus making them worth less.

EDIT: And pardon my ignorance, but when people refer to a Shako, are they referring to the Harlequin Crest?

[Nominus Experse]

EDIT: And pardon my ignorance, but when people refer to a Shako, are they referring to the Harlequin Crest?
Yes

And I am about to rip the Start key off my keyboard. That now makes six times its killed me...

[CimminyCricket]

EDIT: And pardon my ignorance, but when people refer to a Shako, are they referring to the Harlequin Crest?
Yes

And I am about to rip the Start key off my keyboard. That now makes six times its killed me...

I already have. <_< It sucks to be a high level and then die in nightmare cause your stupid start key decided to jump in the way. -_-

[Tavrobel]

Wow, what things are worth have really changed in the 8 months I haven't played. It's really bad. Shako's apparently are worth more than pul (they used to be pul along with homunculus and occulus), now apparently its worth 2-3 high runes, which is ridiculous. and PCcharms 10+ highrunes? When the hell did that one happen. They were 2+4 hrs, 5 if you got a nice life or mana addition to it. Man,greedy farts.

Yes. Jalal's used to only be worth a Hel, but now that people have the options to MF more, and have the gear to make high class Smiter Paladins, high runes have been easier to find. As the demands of more characters increases, so does the demand for gear for those characters. Particularly, Paladins. Torches are now only worth one high rune, while Sorceress and Paladin Torches range from 3 to 12. As more characters are required, so does also the need to make them more gosu. It's like an exponential curve that is self perpetuating, which is why Battle.net is having lag problems recently.


I'm guessing that as time has gone on, more high runes entered the market, thus making them worth less.

EDIT: And pardon my ignorance, but when people refer to a Shako, are they referring to the Harlequin Crest?

Yes.

People call it Shako because it is green, unlike its normal counterpart, which is the same as any other cap.

[Flying Mullet]

And I am about to rip the Start key off my keyboard. That now makes six times its killed me...

I already have. <_< It sucks to be a high level and then die in nightmare cause your stupid start key decided to jump in the way. -_-
I've had a similar issue when picking up items and switching to my Revive spell via hot key.

Alt + F4 = bad news...

[Tavrobel]

Obviously.

EDIT: Ohh, bloody smurf, there goes a Mavina's Armor and a PEmerald. Nevermind. Thanks, Mulley and Nom.

ADDITION: GG, sorry, but I'm not gonna be on for awhile. Don't feel like I ditched you, because while I was in the public channel, someone there told us that whoever counted to 10 the fastest would win. I'd done this thing before, but I counted too fast this time. I'll get back on when my connection clears.

[SeeDRankLou]

GG, hope you read this. My account has been restriced. I'm going to try to sign on in like 30 minutes. If I lost that Insight I'm going to be PISSED.

[Giga Guess]

Thanks for the cool shinies, Tav! They SO help! I'm pretty much immune to fire now.

Almost able to wear Aldur's! Heeee....

[EDIT] Game no longer exists...agh...At any rate, my fingers need a rest.

[Nominus Experse]

MOTHER FUCKER

I just lost all my small charms (including three perfect Good Luck Small Charms and a few FHR/+Res Combos) and M'avina's Icy Clutch...

I'm done for a while...

[Giga Guess]

Well, I still have that Grand Charm for you...do you still want it?

[Nominus Experse]

Well, I still have that Grand Charm for you...do you still want it?
Yeah. that would be nice.

I'll be on sporadially throughout the day, or you can PM me when you are on.

[CimminyCricket]

lmto

You still haven't been able to get that to him?
That was a week ago, lol.

[Flying Mullet]

I've been trying to get a Ko for a week now. I set up a game to trade IK Helm, Boots or Tal Helm for one and no one shows up. 30 minutes later I take a quick bathroom break and I come back and someone stopped by to trade but left before I got back. :cry:

EDIT: Also, what's a Lidless worth?

[CimminyCricket]

used to be pul, not sure, but I think I can find you a Ko, this weekend if I get on, so wait a bit? :c)
Or, if you don't want to wait, simply make a game named "Bring Ko" and people will come. You can make your offer then.

[Flying Mullet]

I wish, but only one person came to my "Bring Ko" game and they wanted a Pul or an Ist, which I didn't have, plus I wouldn't trade for a Ko.

[CimminyCricket]

Well, like I said, gimme till maybe tomorrow and I'll have one for you, if I don't I'll let you know and if you still don't have one I'll try again on sat, I'm usually good at stuff like that.

[Flying Mullet]

Okay, I appreciate it. If there's anything you're looking for, please let me know.

[Nominus Experse]

If anyone could give me the Worldstone Keep WP in Hell, I would be most pleased. I missed it on my way to Baal (which I couldn't fight due to Blizzard kicking me off right after I died...).

[Flying Mullet]

If you're on right now I can hop on and give it to you.

EDIT: Let me know when you're online and I can give it to you.

[Flying Mullet]

So being the gentleman that I am, I log in, go the the Worldstone Keep WP and pop up a TP for Nom, only to get obliterated by some Black Souls hanging out in the area. xD

[Tavrobel]

MOTHER smurfER

I just lost all my small charms (including three perfect Good Luck Small Charms and a few FHR/+Res Combos) and M'avina's Icy Clutch...

I'm done for a while...

I've got +life and +res charms. And Mavina's Gloves.


EDIT: Also, what's a Lidless worth?

Ko to Pul. Getting a Ko shouldn't be hard, if you play for awhile.


So being the gentleman that I am, I log in, go the the Worldstone Keep WP and pop up a TP for Nom, only to get obliterated by some Black Souls hanging out in the area. xD

LOL Hit points + resistance, please. This kind of mades me sad.

[Nominus Experse]

So being the gentleman that I am, I log in, go the the Worldstone Keep WP and pop up a TP for Nom, only to get obliterated by some Black Souls hanging out in the area. xD
Yeah, that was terrible. The instant I show up, Mulley dies...

[Giga Guess]

So being the gentleman that I am, I log in, go the the Worldstone Keep WP and pop up a TP for Nom, only to get obliterated by some Black Souls hanging out in the area. xD
Yeah, that was terrible. The instant I show up, Mulley dies...

Cursed, ye be! CURSED!

[Khaotic]

I was going to come back, but I seem to have lost my LoD CD key :(

[Flying Mullet]

:cry:

[Giga Guess]

Heeheehee...any takers on this baby?

Oh, and I have an Ammy for your 'Zon, Mully.

[Nominus Experse]

My Arm of King Leoric Tomb Wand and Death's Web Unearthed Wand are far superior.

But the thought was nice, Gigaguess. And what is with you and finding Necromancer items?

[Flying Mullet]

Oh, and I have an Ammy for your 'Zon, Mully.
Cool, what's the Ammy?

My Arm of King Leoric Tomb Wand and Death's Web Unearthed Wand are far superior.

But the thought was nice, Gigaguess. And what is with you and finding Necromancer items?
I have King Leoric's Tomb Wand as well so I don't need the wand. Thanks though GG.

[Tavrobel]

I found one of those yesterday doing a Mephisto run. I gave it to a friend, so I also do not need it, since I have cannablized my Necromancer to a Charms and Gems mule. I can also afford anything I wish, but that's not the point.

[Flying Mullet]

What's a 5os Phase Blade worth?

[Tavrobel]

A high rune, maybe two (but don;t count on it), since it can be used for Eternity, Death, Destruction, and the most important of them all, Grief. Also remember to keep Berserker Axes (http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/elite/axes.shtml), the Elite version of normal one handed Axes. These are the highest power weapons in the game when combined with a good runeword. An Os'd Berserker Axe is worth 2+ high runes (not the Set item, the white item).

[CimminyCricket]

I was going to come back, but I seem to have lost my LoD CD key :(

I've two extra, lemme know if you want one. I can PM it to you.


Heeheehee...any takers on this baby?

Oh, and I have an Ammy for your 'Zon, Mully.

Oi, what do you want for the wand thing, I got a buddy that would like it.

[Tavrobel]

When you get back, Khaotic, PM your character information to me, as I'm also managing the character screen.

[CimminyCricket]

Okay, I appreciate it. If there's anything you're looking for, please let me know.

The only problem is that I don't get on when you do, so I'll just make a mock account put the rune on there and give you the info through pm. Is that OK with you?

[SeeDRankLou]

Ok, this is ridiculous. This is the third time in a row that it has not only kicked me from a game but then restricted my account. Effing bnet.

So Tav, as I was saying, I am maxing Chain Lightning + synergies, 1 to Thunderstorm for extra damage, and maxing Nova last since it's the crappiest. I think I'll be done at level 94, but I'll be strong enough at level like 75ish.

[Tavrobel]

So that's Chain, Lightning, Charged Bolt, Nova, Mastery.

Then there's equipment, so your damage should be anywhere from 1 - 20k.

EDIT: I do hope you have not forgotten mastery! Realistically, you'll want to get Chain, then Lightning, then Mastery, then Charged Bolt, then Nova.

[SeeDRankLou]

Actually I was going to go Chain Lightning, Lightning Mastery, Lightning, Charged Bolt, Nova with a point in Warmth, Static Field, Telekinesis, Teleport and Thunderstorm when they are available. But I suppose your way works too. :D

Edit: Dammit!!! Happened again, and Tav I lost that nice armor you gave me. Sorry, hope it wasn't a loaner. :(

Edit 2: Chain Lightning down, four more to go.

[Giga Guess]

My Arm of King Leoric Tomb Wand and Death's Web Unearthed Wand are far superior.

But the thought was nice, Gigaguess. And what is with you and finding Necromancer items?

No :skull::skull::skull::skull:, eh?



Heeheehee...any takers on this baby?

Oh, and I have an Ammy for your 'Zon, Mully.

Oi, what do you want for the wand thing, I got a buddy that would like it.

I dunno...I can't think of anything I really *need* at the moment anyways. He can have it. Not like I have any use for it anyways.



Oh, and I have an Ammy for your 'Zon, Mully.
Cool, what's the Ammy?

Just a Maiden's Amulet. nothing to write home about, truth be told. But if you want it, it's yours.

[Flying Mullet]

Okay, I appreciate it. If there's anything you're looking for, please let me know.

The only problem is that I don't get on when you do, so I'll just make a mock account put the rune on there and give you the info through pm. Is that OK with you?
Sure, that works.

[Nominus Experse]

I found some things. Let me know if any are of interest to you.

[Flying Mullet]

Well that was interesting. I had a game up for trading my 5 socket Phase Blade. A person came on saying they needed it. After they saw the blade they asked if I had an Amn, Ral and Mal as well for trade. When I told them I didn't they got mad at me and left. xD

And Nom, my Barb could use the Ogre Maul.

[CimminyCricket]

My pally could use the nice manald, heh, that'd be his second ring. I haven't spent too much time trying to get equip for him, but I guess I should start now.

[Tavrobel]

Edit: Dammit!!! Happened again, and Tav I lost that nice armor you gave me. Sorry, hope it wasn't a loaner. :(
Que Hagan's? It's fine, I've got another one (somewhere I think). I also have a plethora of other armors.

However, if it was Shaftstop, I will kill you.

[SeeDRankLou]

However, if it was Shaftstop, I will kill you.
LOL

My merc killed the cow king, so can't do that anymore. Oh well. I'm in nightmare now. Got to the last waypoint of act 1 and saved just as bnet was about to kick me. Haha!

[Tavrobel]

However, if it was Shaftstop, I will kill you.
LOL

I wasn't joking.


After they saw the blade they asked if I had an Amn, Ral and Mal as well for trade.

LOL a Call to Arms Phase Blade! What a newb. 5Os Phase Blades have WAY better options.


My pally could use the nice manald, heh, that'd be his second ring. I haven't spent too much time trying to get equip for him, but I guess I should start now.

I feel ya, playa'. Son, I can right lend you one of mine.

[Flying Mullet]

For fun I'm starting a Fire/Lightning Hybrid Sorceress.

[SeeDRankLou]

With the advent of synergies, you could go much more powerful just sticking with one tree. But that makes Hell all the more difficult. But if it's for fun then have fun, I'm currently working on a Lightning Sorc myself.

One day when I finally leave work I will get on (yes it's 8:15 and I've been at work for 10 hours, someone please make this gel finish running so I can go home, please).

[Tavrobel]

With the advent of synergies, you could go much more powerful just sticking with one tree. But that makes Hell all the more difficult. But if it's for fun then have fun, I'm currently working on a Lightning Sorc myself.

More accurately, you NEED them to survive in Hell, unless you can get your Skill levels above 40.

Also, I just made a Fortitude, and it's awesome!

EDIT: New transfer policy; if someone doesn't come back on within two minutes, pick up their items, especially high runes, or equally valuable items, and leave. They might be realmdowned or restricted, because Blizzard is a newb.

ADDITION: GG, I need my Gladiator back, I got back on around 1PM EST.

[CimminyCricket]

Understood.

[Khaotic]

And I'm back, thanks to Cimanim.

[CimminyCricket]

No problem what's your account name?


Also, #(*$&U(#*$& I lost a Ber rune to a gosh damned socketed item
It was Tavs eth superior warscythe. >< I hate this stupid game.

[Khaotic]

Emilylove

[Tavrobel]

Also, #(*$&U(#*$& I lost a Ber rune to a gosh damned socketed item
It was Tavs eth superior warscythe. >< I hate this stupid game.

If it was 4Os, Ber + Mal + Ber + Ist is Infinty.

Also, I'll update the information page to reflect Khaotic's changes.

EDIT: Say it with me, now, children: le-gi-ti-mate Ann-i-hul-us. Me and killa were in my Hell tav/tav game, doing stuff, killing each other, when we note that the SoJ message came up. We started to obsess about the boss that we had just killed, and that he killed everything, and I didn't. When the message pops up a few times more, he realizes that DClone would likely to appear in this game of ours, which he did. Then we teleported to Dark Wood to kill the Super Unique monster that is replaced by DClone. I get the Annihulus, since killa was kind enough to let me have it. I identified it, +8% EXP, +12 Stats, +12% Resistance. a low as hell Annihulus, but still one, nevertheless! In exchange for letting me have it, I gave him three Mal runes.

ADDITION: I need an xfer, as of 12PM EST.

ADDENDUM: Nevermind, I got it. I plan on updating the information page by the end of the day.

YOU GUYS SUCK, POST DAMNIT; SERIOUSLY, I HAD TO EDIT FOUR TIMES TO GET TO THIS POINT I MEAN LOL C'MON I KNOW IT'S THE WEEKEND, BUT SHEESH; AND IGNORE THE ALL CAPS AS THOUGH IT WERE YELLING BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST THAT ALL THE PREVI)OUS EDITS ARE CAP'D TOO: Uploaded the updated information sheet. If there are any additions that you felt I missed or you would like to make, please PM with the changes. Thank you in advance.

[SeeDRankLou]

I need a 3 socket armor, I suppose maybe a Wire Fleece, but yeah. So, my lightning sorc has Chain Lightning and Lightning maxed, now I'm on to Lightning Mastery.

Happy Tav. :D

[Giga Guess]

2 Ammys on my personage. One is a basic enchanted one, but +3(!) to Necromancer Summoning Skills, the other is a rare, and has +2 the Sorc Cold Skills. Takers?

Oh, and a rare Rune Blade with +1 to Paladin Skills.

[Flying Mullet]

but +3(!) to Necromancer Summoning Skills
Oh wow, I would love that ammy, mine's only +2 and I've gambled millions of gold trying to get that one. xD

[Giga Guess]

Are you on now?

[Flying Mullet]

GG just gave me a +3 summoning skills ammy, making Niblick the happiest Necro in the whole wide world. :)

[CimminyCricket]

Is there a way to unsocket items, someone one of the people told me there was and I forgot who and how.

Also, since I started playing Diablo II again, my ps2 and rpgs are finding themselves unplayed. O_o

[Flying Mullet]

You can unsocket an item by putting the item you want to clear the sockets of, along with a Hel Rune and a Scroll of Town Portal, in the cube and Transmute. Just remember that you will lose any gems, runes, setc... that are socketed into it.

http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml#unsocket

[CimminyCricket]

then its not smurfing worth it at all

[Tavrobel]

GG just gave me a +3 summoning skills ammy, making Niblick the happiest Necro in the whole wide world. :)

You still need Summoning GCs, which go for one high rune each, 2 if you are looking for supporting mods.


then its not smurfing worth it at all

Yeah, it is. Hel can be found frequently beginning in Hell mode. Hel is one of the most used and valuable middle runes because of this recipe. though it might be more desirable in the dueling kingdom, it can also be used to change runewords; even +3 points of damage or a new ability, such as LifeTap versus Poison Nova, could mean the difference between life and death in dueling.

[Flying Mullet]

GG just gave me a +3 summoning skills ammy, making Niblick the happiest Necro in the whole wide world. :)

You still need Summoning GCs, which go for one high rune each, 2 if you are looking for supporting mods.
I've had one summoning gc for a while now, so my collection is started. I'm at +15 summoning skills now, so I need (and not easy to get) two SoJ, an Arachnid Mesh, more summoning GC's, a Boneflame if it has +3 to necro skills and a summoning Hellfire Torch.

[CimminyCricket]

then its not smurfing worth it at all

Yeah, it is. Hel can be found frequently beginning in Hell mode. Hel is one of the most used and valuable middle runes because of this recipe. though it might be more desirable in the dueling kingdom, it can also be used to change runewords; even +3 points of damage or a new ability, such as LifeTap versus Poison Nova, could mean the difference between life and death in dueling.[/QUOTE]

To hell if its worth it; I can't keep my runes afterwards. wtf is up this that. And you say its worth it. I wouldn't mind if you lost the item, but the runes? wtf.

[SeeDRankLou]

You lose the rune the moment you use it, rather it be by mistake, to use the rune's property, to complete a runeword, or in a cube recipe. If you have already made a good runeword, I would keep the item and find another socketed item to make another runeword. If you accidentally used the rune, then it's gone, no matter how accidental it was. One of the things that pretty much suck but there's nothing that can be done about it. Once it's used it's gone, part of something else now.

[Tavrobel]

To hell if its worth it; I can't keep my runes afterwards. wtf is up this that. And you say its worth it. I wouldn't mind if you lost the item, but the runes? wtf.

That's unfortunate, and is only your fault for accidentally socketing them. Now if it were because of lag, that's understandable (if it would let you socket it at all in lag, since most of the time, items are restored based on points of lag); but you should not blame me, for it is much more worth it to save the item than to save the rune: 4Os flails, 5Os flails, 3Os AP and DS, 4Os armors, 4Os Polearms, Os'd Phase Blades, and Os'd Berserker Axes are worth far more than some accidentally lost rune, especially Berserker axes (they go as high as five high runes).

Worth it in terms to save the item? Yes, absolutlely.

And you should have checked if Ber was used in a runeword, too. Ber + Mal + Ber + Ist = Infinity, one of the better runewords. But instead, you went and sold it, far be it from me to tell you to check something before you do it. Unfortunate as it is, but life goes on. How do you think I felt when I got duped for that Annihulus? I got back on Battle.net, when by all rights, I would have abandoned Diablo 2 altogether, found myself a PComb (which I definitely got gypped for; last time I listen to anyone except killa), got DClone in my game, and shot back up those 5 high runes that I lost. My Druid, Paladin, and Barbarian are all now pimped out as pimp can be.

[CimminyCricket]

Nah, I'm over the Ber thing, I could give a rat's arse now, but I was hoping to be able to take the runes out of a crappy item (already Runeworded) so that I could use them in something else. 'Cause the item they're in sucks.

In otherwords, I want to switch one rune word into another higher level item.