Diablo 2: The Brother (And Sister)hood of EoFF

[CimminyCricket]

Cool!
So...I won't be on until maybe Saturday I'm in the process of attempting to graduate before Monday. I was a lazy as hell Sophmore and Junior.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Nom, I have a glass canon zon I use for MFing and I enjoy her much. For skills I maxed Guided, Strafe, Valk (If you are glass, you need a meat shield), and spread some out over the Passive skills. about 3-5 since gear brings them up to the point where they start to pooter out. Stats, Ive put nearly everything in to Dex, ending up with somewhere near 450 dex (at level 86)

I use BOTD Crusader Bow, Umed Shako, Enigma, Chanceguards, Wartravs, Goldwrap, Ravenfrost, Lifeleech/Ressie Rare ring, Crecent Moon Ammy (for lleech and mleech goodness), a Perfect Gheeds, 17/18 anni, 18/20 torch, 15 all ressie 6 dex GC, mondo Poison scs (about 900 dmg worth), and a couple mf scs as well.

My damage is only about 2000-4000, but if I swapped out my gear for +skills stuff Im certain it would be much more grand. Either way, with all the lleech and mleech I refill both anytime I hit something so I rarely die under non-lag induced circumstances.

[CimminyCricket]

I'll be remaking my Zon soon. xD

[Nominus Experse]

I was thinking of this following set-up:

Skills:
Magic Arrow = 1
Cold Arrow = 1
Multiple Shot = 13
Ice Arrow = 1
Guided Arrow = 20
Strafe = 20
Inner Sight = 1
Critical Strike (passive) = 20
Dodge (passive) = 1
Slow Missiles = 1
Avoid (passive) = 1
Penetrate (passive) = 1
Decoy = 1
Evade (passive) = 1
Valkyrie = 8
Pierce (passive) = 20


Mulit-Shot seems a waste after you hit the 24 arrow mark, as it never increases damage output - only mana expenditure.

Guided Arrow is a lovely skill, and so I shall max it so as to gain a respectable increase in damage and reduce the mana cost to 1. Shooting around corners was incredibly fun in Single Player.

Strafe will be maxed for obvious reasons.

Pierce and Critical Strike will maxed only if I somehow have this character reach level 99. Basically, I plan to dump 10 points in each at first, and then filling them in as I level past 89.

I thought of increasing the Valkyrie, since one could simply max her completely and simply tag along throughout the game - watching as the Valk beat the game in your stead.

But even at level 8, she ought to reach level 17 from my +skill items, which is the point when she spawns with all Rare equipment. She also has a large amount of life at this point, allowing her to tank Baal or Diablo easily.

Really, she's meant to tank, while I kill. So 8 points seems perfect.



Armour: Fortitude Dusk Shroud (or Wire Fleece since it makes the Zon damn sexy)



Weapon: Faith Grand Matron Bow


Rings: Ravenfrost
A rare or crafted ring with LL and ML


Gloves: The +skills/20%IAS pair I found, or a crafted Hit power gloves in order to get Knockback (which may also grant the very desirable +skill/20%IAS/LL/ML mods as well)


And then the rest of the gear is difficult for me to chose...



Helms:

Giant Skull

Defense: 350-477 (varies)(Base Defense: 100-157)
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 106
Durability: 40
+250-320 Defense (varies)
10% Chance Of Crushing Blow
Knockback
+25-35 to Strength (varies)
Socketed (1-2) (varies)

Knockback is a lovely mod to have as a Glass Cannon, and the fact that it may spawn with 2 open sockets gives me the option of placing a Shael or Um rune(s), or select Jewels that raise my attack speed, max/min damage, resists, defense, etc...

However, other than the Knockback and 2 open sockets, there is nothing great about this helm. Additionally, it offers no LL or ML, and the sockets are used in order to achieve IAS% or some less useful mod.


Andariel's Visage

Defense: 310-387 (varies)(Base Defense: 101-154)
Required Level: 83
Required Strength: 102
Durability: 20
+100-150% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+2 To All Skills
20% Increased Attack Speed
8-10% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
+25-30 To Strength (varies)
+10% To Maximum Poison Resist
Fire Resist -30%
Poison Resist +70%
15% Chance To Cast Level 15 Poison Nova When Struck
Level 3 Venom (20 charges)


This helm is terribly appealing, as it has 20% IAS, +skills, a huge poison resist, and a high LL. However, it has a penalty of -30% Fire resistances, and with little +resistances equipment available to a Bowazon, this may hurt. But I have 2 meat shields twenty metres in front of me at all times, so it ought not be much of an issue - at least on paper it seems that way.


Tal Rasha's Horadric Crest

Defense: 99-131 (varies)(Base Defense: 54-86)
Required Level: 66
Required Strength: 55
Durability: 20
10% Life Stolen Per Hit
10% Mana Stolen Per Hit
All Resistances +15
+45 Defense
+30 To Mana
+60 To Life

Someone explain to me why something designated for the Sorceress is so damn close to perfect for a Bowazon? The huge LL and ML, coupled with resistances, is too difficult to ignore. The only thing this helm is missing is an IAS modifier, which can be added via a socketing quest and placing a select Jewel in the newly formed socket. This helm is also missing a +skill modifier, but it seems as though +skill items don't quite make such a big difference in non-mage builds.

This helm is also ass-ugly.

M'avina's True Sight Diadem

Defense: 200-210(varies) (Base Defense: 50-60)
Required Level: 64
Durability: 20
+150 Defense
Replenish Life +10
+25 To Mana
+30% Increased Attack Speed

Other than the very large IAS modifier, I don't see any reason to use this helm but with the belt, which would grant a +1skills mod and 20 strength. But I don't need strength, and I believe I can find IAS elsewhere.

It does look nice on the Amazon though, seeing as it's a circlet.



Ultimately, I think I'll likely use either Tal Rasha's or Andy's, unless I find a orgasmic rare/crafted circlet with IAS/skills/LL & ML, etc...

Belts:

Vosferatu's Coil

Defense: 56-63 (varies)
Required Level: 51
Required Strength: 50
Durability: 14
16 Boxes
Slows Target By 10%
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
5-7% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
+15 To Strength
10% Increased Attack Speed
-3 To Light Radius

Honestly, this seems to be the perfect choice. There is nothing I can't complain about in this belt. It has LL, Slow, +Str mods. The only thing missing is ML, which can easily be found in rings/helms/amulets.


Wilhelm's Pride

Defense: 75 (Base Defense: 37-42)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 88
Durability: 18
16 boxes
+75% Enhanced Defense
5% Life Stolen Per Hit
5% Mana Stolen Per Hit
Cold Resist +10%

OR

M'avina's Tenet

Defense: 81-86 (varies)(Base Defense: 31-36)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 20
Durability: 14
16 boxes
+50 Defense
+20% Faster Run/Walk
+5 To Light Radius
5% Mana Stolen Per Hit
All Resistances +25 (4 Items)

Basically, these belts will be used simply if I cannot get my hands on the Vosferatu's Coil. Wilhem's is the only belt I know of that grants duel leech, and M'avina's isn't bad at all with the FR/W and ML.

Boots:

War Traveler

Defense: 120-139 (varies)(Base Defense: 39-47)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 95
Durability: 48
Assassin Kick Damage: 37-64
+150-190% Enhanced Defense (varies)
25% Faster Run/Walk
+10 To Vitality
+10 To Strength
Adds 15-25 Damage
40% Slower Stamina Drain
Attacker Takes Damage Of 5-10 (varies)
30-50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items (varies)

For one reason or another, when I equipped these boots in Single Player, they raised my damage output by around 300-400 points. My guess is that somehow the 15-25 added damage modifier is being ran through the unique formula of finding her damage, and so it's given extra enhanced damage privileges, though I may be incorrect. Whatever the reason, there is a noticeable jump in damage output. I wish the FR/W speed was higher, and that there was a bonus given to Dexterity instead of Strength and Vitality, but overall, these boots seem best.

I imagine that there are rare/crafted boots that would most definitely be termed as godly for a Bowazon floating around out there. A nice increase in Dex and resistances would be perfect.


Amulets:


Crescent Moon

Required Level: 50
10% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
+45 To Mana
3-6% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
11-15% Mana Stolen Per Hit (varies)
Magic Damage Reduced By 10
-2 To Light Radius

This amulet boasts a marvelous ML and a very nice LL as well. However wonderful this amulet may be in that respect, it's the only thing about it that will benefit me. If I am short on ML items, I think I'll simply wear this amulet.


Highlord's Wrath

Required Level: 65
+1 To All Skills
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+ (0.375 Per Character Level) 0-37 % Deadly Strike (Based On Character Level)
Lightning Resist +35%
Adds 1-30 Lightning Damage
Attacker Takes Lightning Damage Of 15

The Lightning resistances and 20% IAS are quite nice, as is the Critical Stike modifier. The only issue with the Critical Strike mod is that my inherent Critical Strike ability is calculated first, and then run through a calculation that makes wearing this amulet less appealing than it first appears. The +skill aspect is negligible.


Atma's Scarab

Required Level: 60
5% Chance To Cast Level 2 Amplify Damage On Striking
20% Bonus To Attack Rating
+40 Poison Damage over 4 seconds
Poison Resist +75%
+3 To Light Radius
Attacker Takes Damage of 5

As a Bowazon, I will already have a huge amount of AR, and so the 20% AR boost won't be of any real use to me. knowing that a Bowazon emplioys Strafe religiously, the chance to cast Amp modifier looks like sex on hot sauce. The poison resistances is also nice, though poison doesn't seem to be a very damaging element.


The Cat's Eye

Required Level: 50
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+100 Defense Vs. Missile
+100 Defense
+25 To Dexterity

There is nothing I can complain about in this amulet. IAS and FR/W, with an ample boost in dexterity. If I find that the chance to cast Amp is deceptively low, or that I have enough ML and LL elsewhere, I will likely use this amulet.


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So, any suggestions as to what looks best? What looks wonderful on paper, but is wonderfully effective in-game? Or visa versa?

[Flying Mullet]

Damn Nom, you must have a lot of time on your hands to do all of this research on new builds all the time. :p

[Nominus Experse]

IT KEEPS ME AWAKE MULLEY!

I CANNOT SLEEP WITHOUT ANALYZING THIS GAME TO ITS CORE!




...someone save me...

[CimminyCricket]

I can..."save" you. But it requires that I take your accounts from you and transfer everything to accounts you cannot access. :cP

[Tavrobel]

Most Bowazons I know of maximize Valkyrie as much as possible, for Strafe automatically aims, and hits targets off-screen. The only problem with a Bowazon is Physical immunes, which can be dealt with, in various fashions.

The thing about Guided Arrow is that it doesn't save on arrow economy, and while fun in single player to shoot past corners, a Valkyrie and a Mercenary should be able to absorb the one or two hits that are required before you shoot the living daylights out of that enemy. If a Valkyrie is maxed out, then it should be able to take the enemy by itself.

Here's what I once used:
20 Strafe
20 Valkyrie
20 Penetrate (or which ever one increases AR)
20 Decoy (Valkyrie life synergy)
1 in requisites
1-5 in passives (Critical Strike, etc)

This build puts less of a strain on +skills, and emphasizes the meat tank more. Strafe is more than enough.

Helm: I would agree with Bone Visage (if resistance is what you need, stick one of the low runes, and rotate it as necessary) or Andy's. The lack of fire resistance can easily be overturned by a simple Ral rune. It brings the resistance up by 30, nulling it out. I'm not sure if Dream's Holy Shock would help with the Physical Immunes, nor provide what you're looking for, but is also an option. M'avina's Helm is also an option. If you REALLY, and I mean REALLY need the resistance, use Kira's Unique Circlet (which I also have).

Armor: Chains of Honor. In so many ways is this the perfect armor for a Bowazon. Great resistance (+65 static), increased damage to both Undead and Demons, Lifesteal, reduces damage by 8%. This makes up for the increased damage and defense of Fortitude.

Bow: Grand Matron Faith. Right on the dot. Alternatively, you could also try wearing CtA and Spirit on the alternative set. However, you could try Titan's on the other set for an alternative attack, when combined with TGod's.

Amulet: Cat's Eye, Mara's. The usual, or a Rare with +skills, res, whatever you need. You could also use Highlord's Wrath, which has IAS and a +skills.

Rings: Ravenfrost and Rare. You could also double up on the Ravens for the +Dex. BK's also provide Lifesteal.

Boots: Uhh, Gores (for the CB)? You don't really have too many options here, unless you are lacking in some certain department. If Res, Nat's (Cold/Lite), Aldur's (Fire), or IK (it's got some okay mods, but its true beauty is when mixed with IK Gloves and Belt). I'm not very comfortable with the War Traveler's damage mods (remember that you can't trust the character screen).

Belt: I have a Nosferatu's Coil. I might be online later today, PM for details. IK would also suffice for the Fire/Lite res. M'avina's Tenet also works fairly well. Alternatively, you could also throw on Thundergod's Vigor, which has a 5% chance to heal (casts FoH on strike). The Lightning skills are useless, unless you want a Lightning skill as a backup. In which case, I also have a Titan's for you.

Gloves: Magnus' Skin. +IAS is all that you need, and it comes with Cold res. Alternatively, you can go with IK Gloves/Boots for the synergized IAS, or M'avina's Gloves/Belt, for whatever synergy you happen to get. Lava Gout Uniques also bear 20% IAS and fire res. Soul Drainer Uniques have both Life and Manasteal, but no other spectacular mods.

Charms: I have 2 Passives GCs. I would be more than happy to lend them to you. If you are on later tonight, PM me for details.

Beforewarned that in order to get any +resistance out of M'avina's you need 4 parts. These mods appear only on M'avina's Belt and Helm, for a total of +50 resistance to all. Depending on your items, you should be able to hit maxed, or close to it, as that CoH is a huge boost.

[Nominus Experse]

Hmm, I didn't look too closely at the idea of wearing Chains of Honour, but due to the LL, Res, and IAS, and huge increased damage to Undead and Demons, it may be better.

The Bowazon seemed spectacular in The Chaos Santuary, which is littered with Demon-type enemies. I think I will experiment in Single Player a bit more.

I'm still very conflicted on what helm to use. None of them seem to really shine and scream "CHOSE ME".

Wearing a Giantskull with appropriate Jewels/Runes would allow me to have Knockback without crafting gloves. Andy's grants IAS and a large LL and PRes. And Tal Rasha's grants a very large duel leech.

I think they all require around the same amount of strength, so I could switch them out on command wihtout any fuss.


As for boots, I think survival is better than damage output at this point. So whatever res I am lacking in, I will opt to wear a pair that will cover the weak res.


The gloves I have are already better than Magnus'. They grant 20% IAS, +2Passive, Enhanced Defense, and ML. The only thing they're missing is res. I've never had an issue with achieving a respectable Cold Resistance, but I suppose we'll see.

[CimminyCricket]

Yeah, I need to redo my zon! xD

[Tavrobel]

CoH is your best bet, armorwise. Since in Hell mode, you only need approximately 150 resistance for full, you have instantly reduced your requirements to 85, all. Chaos Sanctuary is littered with Demons and Undead; there are no Animal type enemies until right before you get there, and even then, they are easily dispatched. Iron Maiden is no problem, since it only works at melee range.

Depending on which helm you want to use, any of them could be possible. Remember that IAS maxes out at around 95%. With a high Dex rating, it's more like 75%. PvM only really requires around 5000 Defense, total, and 7000 AR.

If you want res, so that you don't have to worry about it on other equipment, go with Kira's (I believe that mine is 57% all), and can be socketed (with Larzuk). Andy's +100% Poison is also a boon to choose. Skull Visage seems to have the best ideal for customization: two 15% IAS jewels are 30% IAS, but runes could also be used to increase resistance. Two Um runes is an additional 19%, bringing your total to 38% all in Visage. Tal's Helm is also another option with 15% all res, static boost to Life, Mana, and Life/Manasteal. It is also by far the cheapest.

However, if you go with my suggested build, your only real problem would be Mana. Therefore, Manasteal would be of a higher priority, putting preference toward Tal's. IAS has a cap on an Amazon, as well.

There are very few outstanding boots that should be used in all situations. Same for Gloves, but since you have some with good stats, treat your boots like Rings. I'll assume you know which Rings, Amulet, and Belt to use.

Do you even have a Grand Matron Bow? Because I sure as hell don't. Fortunately for you, Faith covers many other weak points. I have a 4Os Blade Bow as of the moment, but not a GM bow.

Have you given any thought to what Mercenary you will use? I'm not sure that Might works on a Bowazon, but it sure as hell boosts your Valkyrie. You shouldn't need Blessed Aim. However, I might think that Concentration (Pride) would work wonders. Thorns would be pretty useless.

However, you could simply not worry about Lifesteal nor Manasteal if you slipped on a Prayer with Insight. That might free up room for resistance (Kira's). A regular Mercenary build would suffice (any helm, Fortitude, Insight if mana boost, Pride for Concentration)

[Nominus Experse]

I tried a Pride NM Offensive Mercenary in Single Player, and it seemed to be the best option as it raises your damage to a very respectable amount.

I liked the Giant Skull most when I tested the equipment. The ability to customize without losing Knockback is ever so lovely. There are jewels that grant 40% Enhanced damage as well, so that could be an option (albeit an expensive one).

I actually like this build quite a bit. Unlike many other builds, you can easily switch items in and out without fucking your main skill over.

[LunarWeaver]

As my Necromancer traverses the Nightmare difficulty, he faces many woes of curses. I need me some Lower Resist, so why must they override it with everything but? When did Decrepify get so popular? How is Iron Maiden helping the Amazon and me? Who in their right mind uses Weaken? I do not have the answers to these questions. No, I can only muse the matter and wonder...and wonder....

I also need to remake my Bowie hardcore, 'coz I screwed up big with mine. Don't you just hate when that happens.

Edit: And Hammerdins are fail and everybody that has one is fail. *Looks at Koast and Chimney*

[Tavrobel]

Edit: And Hammerdins are fail and everybody that has one is fail. *Looks at Koast and Chimney*

Who is Koast?

[LunarWeaver]

If you got online and played with us, you'd know. :smash:

[Tavrobel]

Is Koast supposed to be me? I'll have you know that I hate using my Hammerdin.

I prefer MFing with my Wind Druid and my MFer Barbarian.

[CimminyCricket]

BadKarm

Also, 3-4 cds and I can't find one.

[Tavrobel]

I don't get it.

Anyways, Cim, when you get home, I'll be online with that Grief in eoff/trout.

[CimminyCricket]

I only post at home, school or library xD

[Nominus Experse]

When we all have our Zons reworked, we should rape Baal runs by lagging them all out.

[Tavrobel]

No Torches, please. They tend to instantly drop people, dude to the graphics demnd.

[Nominus Experse]

Um, that's the point of raping Baal runs. Pissing people off via dropping the game.

Glitching Baal is fun as well. Everyone stands around like idiots.

[CimminyCricket]

I'll be remaking my zon this weekend. xD
But first, do my points go into vit as I have done? Or do they go into dex? Or can I split them, dex-vit-dex-vit?

[Tavrobel]

No points go into Vitality until Str and Dex requirements for equipment have been met. A few points here and there is okay, so long as you can equip your median equipment before your end-game build. By level 50, your points should look like this:

Str: < 100 unless equipment demands require it, or +Str equipment is had
Dex: < 100 if not base; if higher, then higher
Vita: ~ 100-120
Eng: none

At level 80:
Str: enough to equip, within 10 points of highest equipment
Dex: enough to equip, within 5 points of highest equipment
Vit: everything else
Eng: base

[Nominus Experse]

I'm going full glass cannon myself. My plan is to have more than 500 points in Dex by the time I hit 90.

[CimminyCricket]

I graduated :D

[Nominus Experse]

About fucking time, son. Now you get to play with the big kids, in the real world.

[CimminyCricket]

It only took me two extra days! xD
Anyway, I'll be on in 45 minutes to school you bitches. :cP

[Tavrobel]

You are all idiots.

[Nominus Experse]

Tav now feels better about himself

[Giga Guess]

You are all idiots.

I love you too Tav.

[Tavrobel]

Having no one to play Median with is so painful. If only Maxx Power were on, he would know how to settle the score! He's anti-Elitist, and...

...well, Median is Elitist, because it's incredibly difficult to play. I want to finish off Cathedral of Vanity so bad, but the Crystal Ball keeps pawning me. I'm forced to resort to DotA and n00bish public games! Uggh! Plus, I haven't quite gotten to Act 5, nor have I found anything worth using. I did find a Sacred Polearm, but it's useless without big Str and Dex boosters! WAAH

[Nominus Experse]

OMFG Frost Maidens are so much damn fun.

I'm now torn between which one I wish to complete first; my classic Glass Cannon, or the cold, nova-popping Frost Maiden?

If I chose to first complete my Frost Maiden, I will soon be seeking out a Razortail Sharkskin

[VorpalCyberWolf]

I believe I have razortail... I am currently looking for an Arachnid Mesh (Mine's Ethereal, so it's not going to last long :(.)

[Nominus Experse]

I am now going to try and collect every single fucking piece of equipment in this game.

Check back on me within a decade.

[Tavrobel]

Including Magic mods and Rare mods?

[Nominus Experse]

Oh dear lord no... I would be dead before that was achieved.

So perhaps I ought to have said that I wish to collect every Unique possible, along with every Runeword

[Tavrobel]

Yeah, I'm just going to ignore that and not really listen, because I don't remember stuff from the thread.

[Nominus Experse]

I'll send you :skull::skull::skull::skull: via PM, Tav.



Also, an interesting thing I discovered today:

I learned how to make it so that your character will indefinitely run while in the Rogue Camp. I don't know if this is news to anyone, but to me it was. For those of whom are interested, here are some shots in order to achieve such a thing:

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2271/screenshot005ho6.jpg
When you begin as a new character, Akara bears an exclamation mark, meaning she wishes to bother you. Characters with an exclamation mark will move towards you if within a certain distance.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4158/screenshot007ah5.jpg
Lure Akara to around this location. Once here, quickly click Akara and then click somewhere else. DO NOT SPEAK TO AKARA. When you click Akara, she will sop moving, effectively anchoring her in place.

Once she is anchored, move to around this location:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8057/screenshot008vg6.jpg
And then click Akara. You're character will now indefinitely run as it vainly attempts to engage Akara.



This is nice for when perming a mule, or giving yourself a seizure if you sit and watch the shaking screen.

You could also use a mule-bot, but meh... basically, for those that don't wish to use any bots whatsoever, this method seems to work mighty well.

[Tavrobel]

I prefer to afk in a game and do other stuff.

[CimminyCricket]

I'm so glad none of us have any real lives.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Well, most of us anyway. Life is finally pulling me from DII... granted not that much, but it is nonetheless.

[CimminyCricket]

ZOMG SOmEONE GET ON AND GRAB MY GEMS xD

[Tavrobel]

Game's dead. Nom, I'll also need an xfer on Median soon. I'm PM you a preferred time.

[Fonzie]

I got Diablo 2:LOD today. I'll probably make a fire sorc. as my first.

[Giga Guess]

I got Diablo 2:LOD today. I'll probably make a fire sorc. as my first.

*sigh*

I will always be the original.

[Nominus Experse]

I may have no life, but I am still getting teh sexxors, u n00b.

[CimminyCricket]

I hate battlenet.

[Khaotic]

I got Diablo 2:LOD today. I'll probably make a fire sorc. as my first.

*sigh*

I will always be the original.

<-- made a fire sorc way before you did.:greenie:

[CimminyCricket]

But, you don't play anymore, so that doesn't count. :cP

[Tavrobel]

I got Diablo 2:LOD today. I'll probably make a fire sorc. as my first.

*sigh*

I will always be the original.

<-- made a fire sorc way before you did.:greenie:

/emote probably made a Fire Sorc before you did.

[Giga Guess]

I got Diablo 2:LOD today. I'll probably make a fire sorc. as my first.

*sigh*

I will always be the original.

<-- made a fire sorc way before you did.:greenie:

/emote probably made a Fire Sorc before you did.

Bah, to the both of you.

[Tavrobel]

I know you can see this Nom; get on.

[Nominus Experse]

Tavrobel stalks me.

[Tavrobel]

So I did sopmething really stupid. I accidentally quit when I was cubing stuff in a one player game, and guess what happened. I lost my uber-awesome Sacred Unique Polearm, a bunch of Jewels, and that Book of Summoning I worked so hard to xfer for.

I want to kill myself.

EDIT: However, the game decided to be kind and granted me a second Zod rune.

[Nominus Experse]

Tav, you and that damned cube really ought to talk to a councilor. You two keep fucking each other over.

[Nominus Experse]

I dropped. LUNAR, IF YOU SEE THIS, PLEASE PICK UP MY STUFF!

[LunarWeaver]

He rebelled and double posted. SUCH WAS HIS URGENCY. You know I'd never leave your stuff anyway <3

And Chimney, I had to go to bed last night because it was almost 5:00 am, but I do still have your Martial Arts grand charm. You asked me to pick it up for some reason, so I'm still holding it. Remind me or I'll forget about it forever. But if you kids haven't learned my memory is a huge piece of :skull::skull::skull::skull: by now, then you're slower than a blind snail in molasses.

Ezzy admitted to me today that being on my friends list fills him with joy and honor :bigsmile:

[Fonzie]

I'm level 34 xD

Oh yeah. My username is TheFonz2010.

[CimminyCricket]

Dear God! Lunar xD Grab my stuff please!!

[LunarWeaver]

Okies =O I'm going to bed now, so I will return it all tomorrow.

[CimminyCricket]

OH NOEZ AGAIN WITH THE REALM BAN
MAP HACK WASN'T EVEN ON

Thank god there are 2 other wireless networks that I have access to w/o leaving my house xD I'll be there in a second

[LunarWeaver]

Vietnom and I both got dropped D: The game went pooof.

[CimminyCricket]

It was just up I was in it

I love my neighbors
I hate battlenet, has banned me from all 3 different IP addresses.

[LunarWeaver]

I tried to join it and it told me it wasn't there :mad2: B.net makes no sense to me.

[CimminyCricket]

I was just in it again
I've grabbed all I need

[LunarWeaver]

I was halfway through a Baal run in that game ;__;

At least you didn't lose anything. <3

[CimminyCricket]

Yus

[Tavrobel]

OH NOEZ AGAIN WITH THE REALM BAN
MAP HACK WASN'T EVEN ON

Thank god there are 2 other wireless networks that I have access to w/o leaving my house xD I'll be there in a second

They also ban you for:
A) joining or leaving games too quickly or in a repeated fashion (killa gets Realmdowned for Baal runs all the time)
B) changing characters on a single account too quickly or in a repeated fashion (I get tempbanned for mule checking very frequently)
C) lagging (yes, lagging)


It was just up I was in it

I love my neighbors
I hate battlenet, has banned me from all 3 different IP addresses.

Warden (the online collective term for all of Blizzard's security measures, even though it functions solely as spyware, which is in turn used for detecting hacks and third party programs) is capable of banning IP, connection source, and CD-Key. You were either hit by the second or the third.

[Nominus Experse]

What really humors me about b.net and its security measures is that when I run my bot, it never gets realm-downed (as it waits a set period before creating a new game). However, when I play as myself, I realm-downed for performing actions similar to a bot.

Eh?

[LunarWeaver]

I get banned for the game "thinking" I'm a bot now and again. Plus, they implemented those new anti-dupe measures or whatever and I constantly get kicked because my game seems to read like that's what I'm doing. I dunno, that's the best I can figure anyway, because it never used to happen and now it does.

And I used to do so many runs in a row that it would temp ban me, too. I'm human, damnit, let me run my runs :nonono:

[Nominus Experse]

I reckon I now have around 1/12 of the game's total uniques and 1/10 of its sets.

It will become much more difficult when I am unable to save each and every unique or set I come across. In fact, the items I take back with me will exponentially decreases, it would seem.


I really don't know what I will accomplish by collecting every single possible item in the game, but nonetheless, I want to.


EDIT: It will take even longer when b.net realm-downs me....

[Tavrobel]

What really humors me about b.net and its security measures is that when I run my bot, it never gets realm-downed (as it waits a set period before creating a new game). However, when I play as myself, I realm-downed for performing actions similar to a bot.

Eh?

If you preset it to a long enough delay between games, it'll never get you. However, it's easier to catch a person doing bot-like things,because of the little things that humans do to give themselves way. You'd think it would work backwards, but it doesn't.


And I used to do so many runs in a row that it would temp ban me, too. I'm human, damnit, let me run my runs :nonono:

They don't want you to do endless runs/endless Baal, either, so I'm not surprised by that.


I really don't know what I will accomplish by collecting every single possible item in the game, but nonetheless, I want to.

Well, it's already been done by all of those companies that profit from selling MMORPG stuff, but they are multiple people. I'm not sure what you want to accomplish, either, but it's your call. Whatever floats your boat.

[LunarWeaver]

I don't get Blizzard's line of thinking on that at all. The biggest allure of Diablo II is the variety of items and attempting to hunt the rarest ones and make the best character possible. But they refuse to just accept that. They're anti-runs, anti-MF, anti-transfering, anti-stash space, anti-mule, anti-everything that makes Diablo II what it is. Everybody just gets around it, anyway. It seems pointless.

[CimminyCricket]

Dear god, I hope they haven't banned my CD-Key, I only have one for the non expansion.

[Nominus Experse]

I wish ATMA worked for b.net....

[Tavrobel]

I don't get Blizzard's line of thinking on that at all. The biggest allure of Diablo II is the variety of items and attempting to hunt the rarest ones and make the best character possible. But they refuse to just accept that. They're anti-runs, anti-MF, anti-transfering, anti-stash space, anti-mule, anti-everything that makes Diablo II what it is. Everybody just gets around it, anyway. It seems pointless.

I take it that you've never played 1.03 vanilla, or 1.07 expansion.

They are anti-runs, because it's too easy to store items. Also, there's a greater increase on server demands. Even though you can summon a new client, the buzz doesn't go away for a long while. So massing games isn't fun for the servers.

They are anti-muling/MF, because Diablo II is supposed to be about item management. You have ti know what to sell and to throw away, and what to keep.

They officially are not anti-transferring. Anything you lose is your own fault for the same reasons listed above.

I'll agree on the Stash, and that their restrictions are incredibly harsh. However, if you've ever played Diablo I, you'll know just exactly why they put these restrictions in place. That game died online years ago. I'm surprised they even bother to support it anymore. It's almost the same for Starcraft.


Dear god, I hope they haven't banned my CD-Key, I only have one for the non expansion.

I think that they ban on the Expansion if you got caught by Warden on expansion. If you've never cheated (or even been online for Vanilla), then you'll be fine.


I wish ATMA worked for b.net....

ATMA will never work online, because the coding base assumes that all things about characters are stored locally. Since Realms are stored on the servers, re-writing ATMA to work for B.net would be an entirely different program, not to mention the added code to keep it from appearing malicious to Warden.

[Nominus Experse]

Tav, I'm not that stupid.

Just a passing wish that I know will never happen.

[CimminyCricket]

What nonsense, if you aren't Tav, you're stupid. I thought this was general knowledge.

[Tavrobel]

Tav, I'm not that stupid.

Just a passing wish that I know will never happen.

This is me sticking it to you for suggesting ATMA for Median (and PlugY likes to glitch the smurf out of Median, as I told you during an xfer session, I believe). I get 3 verbal insults and reminders, and then I have you as my xferring bitch, and speaking of which, I do need another tomorrow; anytime works for me. PM me when you are on.

This one is because I am making a new character, so my Druid is busy running around finding stuff.

[LunarWeaver]

I have been around since the beginning of D1 of course <3. I watched them both evolve. It's just that they implement a lot of new ideas, but never to make certain things easier when I know they could. 1.11 is a completely different game than the 1.00 (and not all due to the expansion), but they still won't put in an xfering system. It wouldn't be that hard at all and then I wouldn't have to bug other people to help me do it. They won't do it for the same reason you said: they've been trying to make it about "item management" since the beginning. They've even said they want to force players to pick and choose what they keep and don't. But when people have been getting around it for this long with mules, it's time to just let it go.

As for runs, I'd rather they just be unhappy about it then go for the whole "good drops on the first kill and then never again"...thing. So I'll just let it go. Although, that's just for items; I want them to nerf the experience. If Baal was gone, people would simply get together and run from the beginning of Act-5 to the end as an 8-person group. This would make the builds much more even and the characters all have more of a purpose rather than it being a bunch of Hammerdins and then you. If that's all I wanted to do, I'd make a simulator where I stand in a red room and watch a white bar slowly fill itself over and over. In fact, considering the time it takes to find a good baal game in Hell, it would probably work out to twice the experience in the long-run to just get together and play through Act-5 in its entirety, but what do I know.

I can dream of things that won't happen...and I shall. Dreams of patches never to come.

I'm making a Javazon. It's the first Amazon I've done without the magic line of skills, including Decoy and Valkyrie. They sure gave Lightning Fury some hella high synergies. Of coure, I'm really doing all the synergies for a badass Charged Strike :jess:.

[Tavrobel]

I have two words for you: Median. The other word is play.

[Nominus Experse]

Tav is correct. It's faster, more difficult, and chalk-full of secrets, recipes, and novel takes on normal play.

EDIT: Today was quite profitable. I amassed around 60 - 70 new items today.

MORE INTERESTING EDIT:

Cim has thought - surprising, I know, it thinks - of an interesting tournament we could hold for all of us lame Diablo II players of EoFF.

We could hold an official Hard Core EoFF Diablo Dueling Tournament.

Here is the premise:

We all create one or more Hard Core players.
We then level them up to 9 or 10.
At this point, we hold a duel between a fellow EoFF player of the same level.
Whoever wins advances on to the next round.

These would be untwinked characters, so then it wouldn't simply be a duel of who has the best low-end gear.

That's all he spoke to me about, but I think there are few things we could also do.

- Team duels would be interesting.
- And having one character that has defeated all the others separately will fight ALL of the others at once to see if he is completely and utterly king. Also known as suicide/revenge.


So, an example would be this:


Round 1

Nominus
The Fonz

Cim
Lunar

Mulley
Bad Karma

SRL
Giga Guess

Tav
B.net (LAGMONSTER)

Winners of Round 1

The Fonz
Lunarweaver
Mulley
SRL
B.net (LAGMONSTER)

Round 2

SRL
B.net (LAGMONSTER)

Mulley
Lunarweaver

The Fonz
Some random Zombie

Round 2 Winners

B.net (LAGMONSTER)
Mulley
Some random Zombie

Round 3

B.net (LAGMONSTER)
Mulley

Some random zombie
Horadric Cube

Round 3 Winners

B.net (LAGMONSTER)
Horadric Cube

Round 4

B.net
Horadric Cube

Round 4 Winners
B.net (LAGMONSTER)



*The CHAMPION IS B.NET(LAGMONSTER)*

[LunarWeaver]

Ooh, my old posse and I used to have these all the time! We called them Iron Maidens in my day <3. I only won one. We didn't have a structure, though, we just level'd to nine and then killed each other. Then we'd all go back to a channel and everybody would be ghosts but one. BUT ONE.

I would do it =3 It will hurt me to murder you all, but I will find the ability to do it.

And I do have Median, I'm just too lazy to play it. Plus the synergies are lame and I can't stand playing anymore where you're just waitin until a certain level to put points into something.

[CimminyCricket]

Not just one on one off the bat, a battle royal. As soon as the last person hits 9 or 10, poof back to town initiate combat and BWOYAA duke it out. Then after 8 of those with different builds, those that are left then go for the one on one.

[LunarWeaver]

Wait, I meant Iron Man not Iron Maiden. Ooohoho, I'm a silly little bugga.

The words battle royale make me want to do it.

[Tavrobel]

Wait, I meant Iron Man not Iron Maiden. Ooohoho, I'm a silly little bugga.

The words battle royale make me want to do it.

You should totally get online on Open and play Median with me. It's awesome.

Median 2008 - Diablo 2 Mods by Brother Laz (http://modsbylaz.planetdiablo.gamespy.com/)

[LunarWeaver]

Too lazy to install the mod again :grover:

[Nominus Experse]

Dude, it's drag and drop to switch...

[CimminyCricket]

And? He's really lazee.

[LunarWeaver]

TWO verbs?!

[Nominus Experse]

All I can say is that it's a good thing Lunar doesn't have to think about performing his vital functions, otherwise I fear he would be dead...


Possible scenario concerning Lunar:

"Dude, breathe."
"Nah, too much work."

...

[CimminyCricket]

Can you even do one of those without bitching? I think not.

[Nominus Experse]

Quiet, you Hammerdin

[VorpalCyberWolf]

I think i've had to remind lunar to breath/eat/sleep before. The only function built into his system is supplying himself with Coffee. I think Lunar's (And my own for that matter) deadly sin would be sloth...

[Nominus Experse]

How the hell is Lunar so damn lazy if he's a walking coffee pot?

[LunarWeaver]

Making the coffee takes up all the effort I have.

[Nominus Experse]

Use an IV, which gives you the added pleasure of stabbing yourself with a needle

EDIT: OMFG this thread is gargantuan... I like how we use it for everything, instead of simply Diablo...

[Tavrobel]

Caffeine is one of them habit forming drugs. Eventually, you need more and more just to get back to normal. Withdrawal symptoms can be very painful, ranging from laziness (OMFG), violence (o rly?), and thoughts of death from having no source of caffeine (well, this is rare).

By the way Lunar, you don't actually install it. Literally, it's drag and drop after download. For the even lazier, there's Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V. Okay, so you might have to back up the MPQ file, but that is, at most, 6 clicks.

Right Click --> New --> Folder --> Click --> Drag --> Drop --> Rename (optional)

Actually, depending on the source, it'll come to you as a RAR file, all compressed and stuff. That takes a substantially increased amount of effort, but seriously, how do you not know how to use an archiver?

EDIT: Nom, as I have said numerous times, this thread has become our personal LiveJournal.

I even set it as "my homepage/your site" in my EoFF profile.

[Nominus Experse]

Maybe we'll have Lunar activate Remote Assistance or something on his computer so that we can do :skull::skull::skull::skull: for him.

[CimminyCricket]

or to him

[Nominus Experse]

Today was not quite as profitable as yesterday... Only found around 20 or so new items.

Cim and I are hoping to find a Nightwing's Veil. I figure if I can find a SoJ, Arachnid Mesh, 3 Perfect Mara's, 3 Gheeds, Shako, and a HoZ, I ought to be able to find a Nightwing.

[CimminyCricket]

lolz yeah about that xD 6 sojs, 2 hoz, 4gheeds 2 maras, 2 shakos and still no arach or nightwing

[Nominus Experse]

We suck

[CimminyCricket]

We do suck.

[Nominus Experse]

Maxx Power, I have found your Ribcracker

It's a terribly low one, but a Ribcracker all the same.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2061/screenshot018cp6.jpg

EDIT: OMFG, managing all these items is a pain in the ass...

[Flying Mullet]

Seeing Nom's screenshot made me decide to start up a random minor side-discussion in this thread:

How do you organize your inventory and stash? Where do you keep your cube?

I keep my Tome of Town Portals in the upper-right corner of my inventory with my keys, then work my way back to the left with charms, leaving 8-16 spaces, or 2-4 columns, free to pick up items. In my stash, I keep my cube in the upper-right or upper left corner, with gems organized by column at the bottom of the stash, skulls and runes at the top next to the cube, and other items in the middle.

[Tavrobel]

Maxx Power, I have found your Ribcracker

It's a terribly low one, but a Ribcracker all the same.
*Ribcracker*

EDIT: OMFG, managing all these items is a pain in the ass...

If you want, you can use my mules. Quite a few of them have half empty inventories/stashes.

Cim has my passwords.



How do you organize your inventory and stash? Where do you keep your cube?

Cube is top left of the inventory, always, and is usually clear of items. The tomes (TP and Identify) are either to the right, or directly below. The TP tome is usually to the left of the Identifies. Charms litter going from left to right, in whatever order is most convenient. At the end of the day on an active character, I'll wind up with anywhere from 4*4 spaces to 2*4 (vertical dimension first).

In my stash, equipment goes at the top (top left for Cube if necessary), whiles Gems and Runes go at the bottom.

My inventory is pretty much the same for Median, except for my Cube/Stash, and low Runes take up the bottom right of the inventory. My Cube holds all of my equipment. In the Stash, Gems are at the bottom, Jewels/Shards/crafting jewelry go to the bottom left, and highs Runes go to the top.

[CimminyCricket]

But Maxx needs a 300% xD

[VorpalCyberWolf]

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x146/BadKarm/gear.jpg
My layout. I'm different >.>

Actually, Mines pretty similar to Mulley's

[LunarWeaver]

I do the same thing that Koast does. My tomes on the right, then charms working to the left, and a cube in the stash. Then the rest of my crap is just wherever I feel like it.

[Nominus Experse]

Tav and I seem to be clones in how we organize our items, both in our inventory and stash.

I always make sure that my Anni and Torch are in the middle of my inventory, so that I don't accidentally sell or drop these items.

Charms are grouped together based on type. All my MF are clustered together, as are my Life, Res, FHR, etc... The only time this is broken is when I jam my Torch and Anni in the middle of it all.

The tome of tps is always tucked away on the left side of my inventory so that I can quickly call up my inventory, right-click the tome, and travel on home. I could call up the skill select, but I found out that it is less distance and requires one less click to simply right-click my tome. I could hot-key my tome of tps, but that's something I don't want to do - I generally am not in need of retreating, but rather in need of returning to Cain.

On characters that have a naturally slow casting animation - such as the Amazon - I place 4 tps in my belt to avoid the casting animation. Very handy when retreating or simply cannot suffer the slow animation.

The cube in generally empty so I can carry polearms and other large items without any hassle. My inventory is chalk-full of MF charms, so carrying my cube is something of a must. Once I return to town and Cain has identified my items, I either place them in stash, load them off in some random Normal game, or sell them. New characters seem to like anything with a gold or green title, if even its useless.



Due to the nature of my MFing, I commonly fill up within 30 minutes. Although, I expect this will become increasingly slower as I gather more and more items.

My estimate as of right now is that I have around 200+ items.



EDIT: Wooo! Found a Highlord's, Gheed's, and a Stormlash within three runs.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

I'm actually trying for the same feat Nom. I think you are beating me though.

Heres a pic of the Kashya glitch I discovered. Keep talking to her and clicking away while she is saying something and the only option will become 'Cancel' after awhile. It's like she starts ignoring you.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x146/BadKarm/Random%20Pics/glitchedkashya.jpg

[LunarWeaver]

Sadly, the only thing I could focus on was Vietnom's character BOOBZORS leaving. That one always does me a chortle.

[Nominus Experse]

I like BOOBZORS quite a bit myself. Perhaps a bit too much...

[CimminyCricket]

What makes you think that, Nom? Was it the fact that, OH that's right, you spent half an hour going on about the boobs of an amazon?

[Nominus Experse]

I still can't get over those things. They put Madonna to shame. I mean, those aren't simply torpedoes, they're god damn nuclear warheads.

[CimminyCricket]

See? And did I mention that most of this was said using ! instead of just regular Diablo 2 chat. That's right, he had to do all of this using !. Of course 97% of the converstations between SRL, Nom and myself that night were using !. One or more of us almost died of laughter. Anyway, Nom really likes boobs.

[Giga Guess]

Yeah...most of the girls on Diablo have pretty good gazongas, but the 'Zon puts 'em all to shame.

(For the record, the gay thing still is not strong enough to drown out the fascination with boobs. I'm sure SRL would be willing to corroborate that too.)

[CimminyCricket]

boobs are going to rule the world.

[Flying Mullet]

boobs are going to rule the world.
Proof. (http://prime-boobs.ytmnsfw.com/) :chef:

[CimminyCricket]

xD ZOMG

[LunarWeaver]

Proof that Optimus is better than Voltron and Gigantor.

[CimminyCricket]

Aren't you Voltron?

[LunarWeaver]

No, because Koast left me for his stupid whatever it is he does and now I have no motivation to be anything.

[CimminyCricket]

Cry baby.

[LunarWeaver]

I'll cry on your mom. :mad2:


Edit: Chimney, I forgot to perm one of your mules again last night ;_; And after you let me borrow some awesome stuff, too, so now I feel like Donald Trump's rectum. Here, have a grover :grover:

[CimminyCricket]

:c) it's fine, there are only 2 left anyway

[SeeDRankLou]

Yeah...most of the girls on Diablo have pretty good gazongas, but the 'Zon puts 'em all to shame.

(For the record, the gay thing still is not strong enough to drown out the fascination with boobs. I'm sure SRL would be willing to corroborate that too.)
No, the gay thing is enough for me, I have no fascination with boobs. I do notice their size and all that, but it does nothing for me.

[Flying Mullet]

Yeah...most of the girls on Diablo have pretty good gazongas, but the 'Zon puts 'em all to shame.

(For the record, the gay thing still is not strong enough to drown out the fascination with boobs. I'm sure SRL would be willing to corroborate that too.)
No, the gay thing is enough for me, I have no fascination with boobs. I do notice their size and all that, but it does nothing for me.
It's okay, you can come out of the closet about being a boob-lover. We'll support and encourage you.

[CimminyCricket]

Lou, you son of a bitch, get on Diablo, now. You haven't played with us enough.

[Nominus Experse]

I now see why companies loathe taking inventory.. it takes forever, my god.

I've now hit the 264 mark in terms of items; 280 counting duplicates of items (Magefists, Wizardspikes, other useful items, etc...)

I still need to organize them all, but I think I will have to make separate accounts for each item type, seeing as there are far more items than I initially thought.

Fun times.


EDIT:

I made a checklist using Excel for all the Uniques found in the game. I created such a thing for myself, but I thought that perhaps others could make use of it as well (as a method of tracking mules or some such)

[CimminyCricket]

Cool, so I wish I had microsoft anything on this computer. All I've got is XP, but that didn't come with anything xD

[Fonzie]

Saw TheFonz yesterday. :D
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7549/screenshot001cc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8103/screenshot002lh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Nominus Experse]

aaaaaaaaaayyyyyy

I am not familiar with the term. Someone enlighten me.

[Tavrobel]

LOL owned.

I noticed that you're not using Lightning on the left tab. Chances are, you'll never have to change attacks. I always have attack spells on the left, and Teleport/Timered spells on the right.

[Nominus Experse]

Listen to the sage advice of Tav, for he is made self-proclaimed Diablo Encyclopedia god thing wise from life wasted experience. Listen nublet, and you shall one day be as Tav is now...

No, but seriously, he has a point. Having a skill on either side allows you to be quicker and more non-nublet worthy.

[LunarWeaver]

I personally cannot stand having it on the left tab. It just drives me nuts. There's something about it I don't like because I'm strange. The only time I ever do is Martial Arts Assassins (finishing moves on one and charges on the other) and Paladins because of the aura things. But Paladins suck, so who cares about them

However, I do see you're still using the F keys, which are horrible. Change them to other keys immediately you heretic.

My key set-up of ultra awesome:

ZXCV- skills 1 through 4
ASDF- Skills 5 through 8

This puts them all comfortably right next to each other in a perfect little square. Then B, N, and M, are the inventory, char, and skill screens, as those three letters are right next to my bottom line of skills. Q for the Quest screen that nobody looks at and W for weapon switch can stay the same because they're right above my second skill line.

I also changed the item pop-up from alt to the spacebar so it's a larger button and I don't hit the Windows key on accident. To compensate, I changed the Clear Screen to mouse 3 which works surprisingly well.
Wheeeeeeee~!!

Edit:

It also upsets me that my Javazon is charmed and nobody can see her equipment except for her Titan's. Her later stuff will make her look silly and right now she looks smexy ;_;. So everybody look at her and clap:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot002.jpg

[Nominus Experse]

I have a few types of set-ups, varying on the type of build.

Ranged:

Skills 1 -5
Caps Lock A S D F

Skills 6 - 9
SPACE F7 F8 F9

Potions:
Q W E R

Switch:
Mouse 5

Inventory:
Mouse 3 (Click of mouse wheel)

Quest:
NA (Don't need)

Character screen:
C

Caster AKA Lazy Builds:

Skills 1 - 8
Defaults

I have my mouse wheel hot-keyed so that when I spin it up or down, it cycles through skills. My most commonly used skill is keyed to the left, and the others are organized to hang in groups, allowing me spin the wheel and click without interruption.

Potions:
Default

Switch:
E

Quest:
Q

Inventory:
Mouse 3 (Click of mouse wheel)

Character Screen:
A or C

Melee:

Very much like Lunar's standard set-up, though I remain true to keying my inventory to my Mouse wheel, switch on G, and potions to Q W E R and Mouse 1 (Q).



I never change Alt.

[Tavrobel]

However, I do see you're still using the F keys, which are horrible. Change them to other keys immediately you heretic.

My key set-up of ultra awesome:

ZXCV- skills 1 through 4
ASDF- Skills 5 through 8

It also upsets me that my Javazon is charmed and nobody can see her equipment except for her Titan's. Her later stuff will make her look silly and right now she looks smexy ;_;. So everybody look at her and clap:


I've been doing that for a long time. But I still use the F Keys for characters who don't have as many skills. For example, I leave my Barbarian's attack on Frenzy. He only has to cast BC, BO, and Shout. F1-3, with Leap at F4. Problem solved.

Strength glitcher! Either that, or all of your gear is Eth.

[Nominus Experse]

I hate Str glitching since then my corpse has to be sorted out every time I pick it up. Although one hardly dies in Diablo, if and when I do, I don't want to spend my time trying to once again place gear on when there are Pit Lords swarming my half-naked character.

[LunarWeaver]

I could never go back to using the F keys for anything :( They disturb my peace.

I seem to always have characters that are strength glitched up the wazoo. Apparently my Assassin looks completely naked.

[Nominus Experse]

You could get the Assassin nude mod and she'd truly be naked.

[LunarWeaver]

Then mine would finally get more attention than BOOBZORS does.

[Nominus Experse]

You still won't be able to compete with MAGIC_BONER

[CimminyCricket]

I remember that one

[Nominus Experse]

mAGIC BAOSNER cme back . I played hiom, toinght.

Im and MAGEIC BIOENR are beatiing dIabl;o toingit
.
..

WHerEs my grldfrind Neds Her FOR GHAME

[SeeDRankLou]

Need her for game or for rehydration? :tongue:

[Nominus Experse]

mAIGC BONER staered his jorney todnight

Here, listen tomt story


hE crawwled into the DEn of EVIL soo that he may prove to eth Sistrhood of the Siighhtkess EYE that he is good oR Somthing.

Thaere were mamny enemies about but , MAGIC BONER WAS wihtin the rage of batttle!

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8356/screenshot005to7.jpg
Manyy a Fallen was slaain. LUNAR Tels me thatth ey wea r grey pannts.



MAGGICB ONER ALSO found TRESURES!

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4431/screenshot006ky0.jpg
THe joruny was prvoing more andm ore profittabll

The DEN was expriencing the hioly werath of retribuion but sommem monsaters remaimned to sufffer judgment. Cowering like the scuim they arer , I found the remainig two zombnies in this corner:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2767/screenshot008eq2.jpg
NO OEN HIDES F RMO THE BONER FOOLS@!


MAGMIC BOMNER THEn jouirnery d past the cold plains, where he then found POISONOUS LIKMES AND XEPLOSOVE ORANGES!!!

CITETUS LOL

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8043/screenshot011rw8.jpg

NO ONE FNUCKS WITH CITRUS FRUITS U NOOBS


MAGIC BIONER Was told t oget Cain by go ing to the DAR JK WOOD.
Som he valia nty braved the darkness ofht euUnderground Tiinnnul to reach teh DARK WOD. There the TREEE Of INUFESS would give buirth to a scroll bearing the same name as the tree.

All was wellllllll until he put his citrus fruit away in fvaor of a sword......
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3972/screenshot002ns2.jpg
BONERN IS PWND!!!

Its time I wennnt to bes anyways...

[Nominus Experse]

HAH IGET 1900tH POST!

[Tavrobel]

Drunk Tank, anyone?

[Giga Guess]

Wow...no kidding!

[CimminyCricket]

That was the greatest story ever. We need to get this archived xD

[LunarWeaver]

This is why I want Vietnom to marry me.

[Khaotic]

mAIGC BONER staered his jorney todnight

Here, listen tomt story


hE crawwled into the DEn of EVIL soo that he may prove to eth Sistrhood of the Siighhtkess EYE that he is good oR Somthing.

Thaere were mamny enemies about but , MAGIC BONER WAS wihtin the rage of batttle!

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8356/screenshot005to7.jpg
Manyy a Fallen was slaain. LUNAR Tels me thatth ey wea r grey pannts.



MAGGICB ONER ALSO found TRESURES!

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4431/screenshot006ky0.jpg
THe joruny was prvoing more andm ore profittabll

The DEN was expriencing the hioly werath of retribuion but sommem monsaters remaimned to sufffer judgment. Cowering like the scuim they arer , I found the remainig two zombnies in this corner:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2767/screenshot008eq2.jpg
NO OEN HIDES F RMO THE BONER FOOLS@!


MAGMIC BOMNER THEn jouirnery d past the cold plains, where he then found POISONOUS LIKMES AND XEPLOSOVE ORANGES!!!

CITETUS LOL

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8043/screenshot011rw8.jpg

NO ONE FNUCKS WITH CITRUS FRUITS U NOOBS


MAGIC BIONER Was told t oget Cain by go ing to the DAR JK WOOD.
Som he valia nty braved the darkness ofht euUnderground Tiinnnul to reach teh DARK WOD. There the TREEE Of INUFESS would give buirth to a scroll bearing the same name as the tree.

All was wellllllll until he put his citrus fruit away in fvaor of a sword......
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3972/screenshot002ns2.jpg
BONERN IS PWND!!!

Its time I wennnt to bes anyways...

lolquote

[LunarWeaver]

I am making a Martial Sin soon and I will need another Bartuc's D: If anybody has one, I will give you a 5os or 4os flail for it ;_;

Also, can I get a Nat's claw for the Griswold weapon? I know nobody uses Griswold's that much, but nobody uses Nat's claw either. It's only good for attacking and everybody is a trapper. The only trapper set-up I can imagine using it would be full Nat's plus a Chaos, throw up some traps, then whirlwind everywhere. But I have seen that exactly never.

So, while Nat's Claw may be really hard to find, it's also just not that useful. ;( Well, except for me, 'coz I want it.

[Nominus Experse]

LOL @ Drunk Nominus...

Lunar, I have both of those, so whenever you want me to come on and hand them over, PM me.

[Tavrobel]

If any one of us becomes a CK or Admin, we shall archive this when no one cares about us any more.

[Nominus Experse]

We're cared for now?

[Tavrobel]

The key word is "no one."

[Markus. D]

I care!!! *hug tackles thread*

*Is Installing new flashy disk*

edit: Will I need anything new to play with you all? or are you playing the Original Battle.Net?

[CimminyCricket]

Original Battle.net yes

[Tavrobel]

need another Bartuc's D:

So, while Nat's Claw may be really hard to find

I have both, I believe, on my Assassin.


edit: Will I need anything new to play with you all? or are you playing the Original Battle.Net?

Well, you can still play with Cim, The Fonz, Nominus, Lunar, perhaps Mulley, and Cruise Control. I no longer play online that much, and Cim and SRL are in charge of my accounts.

[LunarWeaver]

Another person I can make constant your mom jokes to.

[Markus. D]

Another person I can make constant your mom jokes to.

I have a relitively solid counter/s for that. :333

My character is... Reduxus or something... Trapassin xD

[CimminyCricket]

For seriously, I hate battle.net.

[Fonzie]

For seriously, I hate battle.net.

Edward and his silly realm is down messages.

[Nominus Experse]

Cim's name is Edward?

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

[CimminyCricket]

For seriously, I hate battle.net.

Edward and his silly realm is down messages.

I'm still not sure what makes you think knowing my name gives you the right to use it.


Cim's name is Edward?

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

Yus! :D

[Nominus Experse]

Colt is going to pay, EDWARDO!

[CimminyCricket]

Colt is going to pay, EDWARDO!

Who is colt?

xD Edwardo

Also, Nom, hell cow me
I need one and less than a half level more before I can wear coh, I'm not trying to get to baal, I just want coh. NO rush, just cow. Please :c)

[LunarWeaver]

I thought your name was Dustin or something. And Colt is Ezzy, of course.

I posted this after I left b.net saying I was going to bed, LOLOLOLOL@urfaces.

Also, Mika is my new crush. Vietnom has been replaced and is now free.

[Fonzie]

Ed, Edward, and Eddy?

[Markus. D]

I thought your name was Dustin or something. And Colt is Ezzy, of course.

I posted this after I left b.net saying I was going to bed, LOLOLOLOL@urfaces.

Also, Mika is my new crush. Vietnom has been replaced and is now free.

Mika... o_o;

Where did that name spawn from :3?

[CimminyCricket]

He doesn't know

[Nominus Experse]

What am I supposed to do that I am now free?

[Fonzie]

I thought your name was Dustin or something. And Colt is Ezzy, of course.

I posted this after I left b.net saying I was going to bed, LOLOLOLOL@urfaces.

Also, Mika is my new crush. Vietnom has been replaced and is now free.

Mika... o_o;

Where did that name spawn from :3?

Kyle is going to swoosh you away to wonderland.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

How come when my Computer dies and and I go out of town you guys party without me :( ah well, Ill be back in town in 3 days, then still a yet determined date for when my comp is back online for me to play again. I may pop on with my desktop, but only to keep my chars from getting deleted until I can play on the good one again.

Also, Lunar, my name's Dustin. And when you first found out you said you were going to get me confused with someone else at some point or another. For horray for you being right.

And last, that checklist you made Nom. Well I worked on it a little more and it's closer to having all the weapons now, Ill finish it after I come back in town if you don't want to.

[Nominus Experse]

Umm, BadKarm, it was already completed when I uploaded it...

Did you realize that there are multiple sheets within the spreadsheet? You ought to be able to see them in the bottom-left hand corner, categorized by type (Armor, Jewelry & Charms, etc...)

Thanks for the thought though.

Original Post:
http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-gaming-discussion/93792-diablo-2-brother-sister-hood-eoff-19.html#post2215443

EDIT: Cim (and whoever else does not have Excel), I converted the sheets to a webpage, and then later a .rar file, so you can use this as well.

[LunarWeaver]

I was curious about the Fade and hidden Physical Reduction thing. I went to DiabloII.net to see if I could find anything.


Q: What's this about Fade having PDR?

A: Fade has a hidden PDR bonus of 1% per skill point invested it in (whether natural or from +skills). So, an slvl 10 Fade would have 10% hidden PDR. This only applies when Fade is active.

Considering that...

Vampire Gaze - 20%
Shaftstop- 30%
Stormshield- 35%
String of ears- 15%
Level 20 Fade- 20%
Total= 120% Reduction.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this make you completely invulnerable to physical attacks?

I suppose it doesn't matter anyway. No Martial sin is going to choose Fade over Burst of Speed, and the real dangers are elemental attacks in hell. It would be better to get resists on equipment and use Burst, but I still thought it was fun to think about, so bite me.

My new Sin is going to need some pretty boots. If anybody is carrying around regular mesh boots or finds some, I would like them if they don't want them. I'm going to try imbuing them like crazy to find a good pair. Mesh Boots don't have the highest damage, but the strength requirements of higher boots are too much for me to fuss with. Sins need a hella lotta life if they plan on being close and personal, and I can't go spilling tons into Str. And don't even bring up Shadow Dancers and their -20% requirements to me because I'm never gonna get my hands on a pair.

And how much does an Arreat's trade for?

[Nominus Experse]

Damage reduced by % is capped at 50%

However, Damage Reduced by _____ and Magic Damage Reduced by ____ are not capped.

[LunarWeaver]

Goddamn you Blizzard. I knew it was too good to be true. The Great Jubbah knows the Assassin needs a special ticket to break that rule. If they're going to make her suck, then at least bend rules for her.

[Nominus Experse]

Consider equipping a weapon that adds stun or slow effects to give you an upper hand. I believe that the Assassin's kicks can reach the second highest attack frame rate, so you ought to be able to survive easily with the right items and planning.

[LunarWeaver]

Trust me, I have tested this up the wazoo using Zonfire on single player. In a Hell game, with the best equipment she can possibly have and stuff that I will never actually own on Realm, she is still not as strong as most other character builds. And she still dies a lot. Can you imagine being a Martial Sin and stepping into a room full of Souls and Dolls in an eight player game and surviving?

It's true that kicks can do a lot of damage. With the right boots, Tiger Strike and Dragon Tail can reach upwards of 20k. But that's after hitting them three times to get three charges and then a fourth time for the Finishing Move. Sorcs can do that much in one shot and do it faster at a safer range.

And let's look at a skill I like to call What the Smurf Strike:

Phoenix Strike at level 20 with all three Synergies maxed:
Charge 1 - meteor damage: 1074-1230
38: Fire Explosion Damage: 951-993 per second
62: Charge 2 - chain lightning damage: 3-2664
62: Charge 3 - chaos ice bolt damage: 468-528
2: Attack: +148 percent

Lightning Sentry at level 20 with all three synergies maxed:
Lightning Damage: 8-2574
1: Mana Cost: 20

The highest damaging effect of Phoenix Strike is the second charge, Lightning. The other two are pathetic. The freeze on the third is nice and isn't for damage anyway, but then you're just a really crappy version of a Freezing Arrow amazon with a crappier summon to boot.

So basically, your reward for running into a group of enemies then hitting them twice and a third time to set off a charge is doing the same damage as one single trap out of five. Gee, I wonder why more people don't use this.

You could argue Phoenix is the most flexible skill in the game, but really it's just a pain. You actually have to stop and attack slower to make sure you don't go past the charge you want or that she didn't miss and get another charge, otherwise you are constantly setting off a charge you didn't want. While all the Amazons elemental spear/javelin skills are Always Hit, they just couldn't see fit to do the same with the skill that actually needed it.

The only reason I play the assassin is because she happens to be my favorite character. I personally don't care that she isn't the best in the game because I like the challenge, it's just very odd to me how unbalanced she actually is. Even though she gets 3 HP per Vit, her claws require even dex and str and she ends up having fairly low health no matter what. That' s also kind of her point, so I get it; she's fast with low health. She's the "mage fighter" character type. Well, if that's the case, then make her mage fighting do lots of damage and not less than the actual mage.

She might be fast, but she's just not the toughest cookie in the batch, kids. Oh well, I still like her. I still choose her over Hammerdins unlike Chimney other people I won't mention.

[CimminyCricket]

Quit bitching. Also, I'll be on soon.

[Markus. D]

Oh my gawsh.

I tried Median.

I... wish it was Median instead of Lord of Destruction. ;_;

[LunarWeaver]

I'LL BITCH ALL I WANT.

I didn't really give Median much of a go. It's still just sort of sitting there.

[Markus. D]

I'LL BITCH ALL I WANT.

I didn't really give Median much of a go. It's still just sort of sitting there.

I wonder if you can still play on "Other Multiplayer" with Median.

Sure would be fun!

My only problem so far is that Shadow Conjuring Necros are powerful from the beginning compared to say... all the other classes.

edit: Until the Assassin pwns with poisonic chaos~ Oh my gawsh~ Poison poison everywhere at level 8! :]]]
edit edit: I seem to accidentally "Waltz" Into Ub3r leveled areas x_x; I can't wait to be at a level where I can actually tackle these things.

[CimminyCricket]

xD

[Markus. D]

xD

Play Median >_<!

edit: Does EoFF have a Median Server Name?

eoffmedietc /// troetc?

[CimminyCricket]

I still have 2 more accounts to fill with characters I've played before I jump onto Median. I had planned on it, but nope.

[Tavrobel]

I wonder if you can still play on "Other Multiplayer" with Median.

Sure would be fun!

edit edit: I seem to accidentally "Waltz" Into Ub3r leveled areas x_x; I can't wait to be at a level where I can actually tackle these things.

You can play on Open Battle.net and TCP/IP. I use the latter to transfer amongst myselves all the time.

That'll be around level 70 for Hatred.



edit: Does EoFF have a Median Server Name?

No.

The primary reasons are because the people who play Median, (me, Maxx Power, and possibly Khaotic) no longer play LoD vanilla. As we are the only major three who have an interest in Median, our demand is not high. Furthermore, all three of us have connection problems, spurred on by distance (Maxx lives several hours ahead of me, and Khaotic is enough of a recluse as it is).

Additionally, I level my characters very quickly. Within a few days, I can have a character from 1 to 120; even if I started a new character, you would play with that character at most, once.

[CimminyCricket]

Get a life!

[Nominus Experse]

Get a life!
You're one to talk

NOTE: I certainly don't have one either

[Tavrobel]

Get a life!
You're one to talk

NOTE: I certainly don't have one either

At least you have sex.

[Nominus Experse]

Very true. Mass quantities of sex seem to make up for my lack of quality or notable lifestyle.

[LunarWeaver]

I have dreams the Druid transforms into a Werebear and rapes me if that counts.

[Nominus Experse]

I have dreams the Druid transforms into a Werebear and rapes me if that counts.
That Werebear is me, Lunar

[LunarWeaver]

So I've been screaming "MIKA!" all this time for nothing? D:

[CimminyCricket]

xD

[Tavrobel]

I will not condone homosexuality in this thread*unless I am involved.

[CimminyCricket]

Then get out, Tav. :c)

[SeeDRankLou]

Highlight the whole line Cim.

[Nominus Experse]

You know some Amazon x Assassin pr0n would be the highlight of your life, Tav.

Or some Shapeshifted Druid x Barbarian pr0n as well. Listen to that Barb yell! RAWR!!! RAWR!!! RAWR!!

[LunarWeaver]

A brand new kind of Warcry.

[Markus. D]

So I've been screaming "MIKA!" all this time for nothing? D:

:(

Fine. I will switch patches back.

Bunch of Notch Sotchers. :3 (o_o?)

edit: No fair ;_; My Archer has Useless on its mind again.

[Giga Guess]

I will not condone homosexuality in this thread*unless I am involved.

Awww...that's not what you said last night... ;)

[EDIT] And then I noticed the hidden text. Oh well.

[Tavrobel]

Looks like there's three more Ciddies winners in this thread. We deserved them, after all this time.

PARTY ON MOTHER SMURFERS

[Nominus Experse]

I need a xfer terribly badly OMFG I'm going to die unless I get a xfer badly...

[Tavrobel]

I need a xfer terribly badly OMFG I'm going to die unless I get a xfer badly...

You sound like me right before I got Carpal Tunnel.

[Nominus Experse]

Meh, I'll just harass one of you when I come back on later.

[Giga Guess]

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure I should be proud of the one I won...but I am, so there.

[Markus. D]

I need a xfer terribly badly OMFG I'm going to die unless I get a xfer badly...

I'll do it!

edit: Transmuting a Towns Portal with a Wirt's Leg does NOT gain me access into Tombs. :(

[Nominus Experse]

FUCK THIS GAME

I'M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE

[Markus. D]

smurf THIS GAME

I'M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE

;_;

[CimminyCricket]

Nom, you son of a bitch, you get your ass back on that game now. Or no more....um...stfu and get back on.

[Markus. D]

Nom, you son of a bitch, you get your ass back on that game now. Or no more....um...stfu and get back on.

;_________;

;-;

[LunarWeaver]

I wanted to post beneath Mika's tears so I could catch them in my mouth and savor his sweet taste.

[Markus. D]

I wanted to post beneath Mika's tears so I could catch them in my mouth and savor his sweet taste.

Convert that longing into a "Rush Mika up to tombs" :3?

[Nominus Experse]

Alright, so I lied - I'm still playing.

Fonz, I do so very much hope you still have my Arachnid Mesh. If not, then, well, I am going to cry tears of acidic blood.

I am actually playing characters through now, rather than MFing for weeks on end.

[Tavrobel]

Alright, so I lied - I'm still playing.

If he follows the pattern of addiction that I followed, then his most major loss will become his finest hour. Fresh from the rage of losing that which he values the most in Diablo II, his soul will creep back from depression in utter rage and anger, and fight back against the Man, in an effort to regain a bit of what he lost. This will cause him to switch to hunter mode, and strike down any and everything in his MF path, and in consequence, he will find not gold, but heaps of silver and diamonds.

[LunarWeaver]

Chimney, I don't know if you remember, but we were wondering about how good Lycander's Aim would be as an Elite instead of an Exceptional a few days back. I know you want a Faith anyway, but I was testing out the upgraded version in single player using Zonfire for myself and took picture in case you wanted to see the difference.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot004.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot005.jpg


I also tested out some stuff with boots and kick damage. With the generous lendings of Vietnom and Chimney, I have the entire Nat's Set. I could use this and get great bonuses for equipment none of my other characters will want or need, so I won't have to strip them.

The only problem is Nat's boots are Mesh Boots, which have average kick damage. This is my damage with three tiger strike charges and dragon tail (which my realm assassin is doing) with Nat's boots and the strongest boots in the game:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot007.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot009-1.jpg

As you can see, the difference is pretty astounding. The Shadow Dancers minimum damage is larger than Nat's maximum. They have high strength, but I'm thinking they're worth getting. I might have to trade for a +1 pair since they'll be cheaper and I don't care about having "perfect" ones anyway.

And Vietnom was right, you cannot upgrade set equipment :( Of course, this means I'll have to make a Phoenix Strike assassin for the sole reason of using the full Natalya set. Phoenix sins are fine enough using Dragon Claw to set off their charges, so I won't be worried with boot damage anymore.

[Tavrobel]

Which armor are you using? It doesn't look like Nat's Armor. Your best option might be a Fortitude.

And as for your weapons, are those Bartuc's?

[Markus. D]

Wow~

So many potions in your inventory.

:(

[LunarWeaver]

Those are upgraded Bartuc's, although it didn't really matter since the damage didn't come out to very much difference.

Really, as far as claws go, I've tried them all and none of them really do any significant damage in a Hell game with other players. Nat's claws against Demons or Undead can, but there's not much point to it. You're only hitting one person, so it's not like whirlwind or strafe where your weapon damage is important to wiping out the whole room. It's all about getting charges as fast as you can and then getting off finishing moves. All I care about are bonuses, and the ones on Bartuc's are the best. And the Ladder only claws are just stupid.

She's wearing a Dusk Shroud Chains of Honor, and if my realm assassin doesn't end up wearing Nat's then I'll take the CoH off my Javvie and put it on her. The javvie can just wear...Shaftstop, or something. The assassin will need the ressies, since I want to dual-wield Bartuc's instead of wearing a Jade (+6 to all martial arts is just too sexy).

Then again, Fortitude does gives some ressies, just not as much, and the other bonuses are fairly nice. I have a four-socket dusk shroud and all the runes but Lo...

I really should trade for another ber and just make another Enigma for my Javvie. I have three socket armor and an Ith and a Jah already. But trading is...silly :yuck:


Wow~

So many potions in your inventory.

:(

:jess:. you could almost call me a...POT HEAD. ROFLROFLROFLROFl... *sits in the corner of shame*

My realm assassin will unfortunately not have that many. She'll be jacked up with Strength and Dex charms. This one has an anni and a sin torch so she never had to worry about stats much. Plus Bartuc's gives +20 to str and dex a piece, so she was pretty set, wheeeeee~

[Markus. D]

Tavvy~~

How do you level so fast in Median?

I feel like re-installing the patch (Normal DII just doesn't feel right after being to heaven).

[Tavrobel]

Set it to /players 8.

Fortitude also doubles melee damage (if not more).

[Markus. D]

Set it to /players 8.

Fortitude also doubles melee damage (if not more).

Wouldn't I kinda... die?

[Tavrobel]

No.

[Markus. D]

No.

Ah... Thanks :]! *hug tackles*

[LunarWeaver]

I think that boots work like shields and that a Fortitude won't raise the damage because the game won't recognize it as a weapon. It will greatly raise my claw damage, but like I said, I just don't think it will matter. I haven't checked it, though, but it doesn't work for smiters so I doubt it will work for kickers.


Edit:

Oh, the Ladder is resetting in roughly four days, too.


Diablo II Ladder Reset on June 25!
We will be resetting the Diablo II ladder on June 25, 2007, beginning a new ladder season and providing a fresh start for those participating on the ladder realms. All current ladder characters will be moved to the non-ladder realm, and the ladder realm will re-open as a blank slate where all-new heroes can make their mark. Try out a new character idea, adventure with your friends, and race to be the first on your realm to reach level 99. The realms will be offline for approximately four hours during the ladder reset. Once the specific schedule for the reset has been determined, we’ll post that information in the Battle.net Status Forum.

So, if you have any Ladder-only items to find or runewords to make, I guess you better hurry the hell up :grover:.

[Tavrobel]

The Enhanced Damage mod on Fortitude works on total damage after all calculations.

You're lying. But hope prevails!

EDIT: Spirit, Infinity, Fortitude, and Insight are all Ladder-only. Make them fast.

[LunarWeaver]

This is my kick with CoH:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot012.jpg

And this is my kick with Fortitude:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot013.jpg

Fortitude actually did less damage. Kickers are very fickle folk that way.



Ezzy, you have a Lo rune, I know you do >;[ In four days, it's going to be useless, and I have all the other stuff to make a Fortitude. I'm sure I can find something you want to trade for it somewhere. I need that damn Lo, Ezzy!

[Fonzie]

I wish I had a Lo, but I don't. I'll help you look for one if you want me too.

[LunarWeaver]

Blargharghargh.

Here's what I worry about: I trade for a Lo, only to have the Ladder reset and all duped items go poof for whatever reason. Then I'll be legit itemless and only be left with air. It makes me nervous.

[CimminyCricket]

FUCK THIS GAME. I'm not playing until ladder resets.

[Markus. D]

smurf THIS GAME. I'm not playing until ladder resets.

Median 2008 - Diablo 2 Mods by Brother Laz (http://modsbylaz.planetdiablo.gamespy.com/)

*begins fondling own hair*

[CimminyCricket]

No, this game sucks. I hate Diablo II.

[Nominus Experse]

Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S Y E S

[LunarWeaver]

I'm not playing until it resets either. If we're going to move with the reset, I don't see the point. So I'll be back on whenever it happens. :jess:

[CimminyCricket]

I've installed NeverWinter Nights, come play if you have the game.

[Nominus Experse]

I'm never going to play Non-Ladder, so if anyone wants my stuff before I give it all away, tell me within the next week.

Come the 25th, it's all given to some random people.

[CimminyCricket]

Save it once I have cooled down, I will most likely still play non ladder. This still game still sucks.

[Markus. D]

Save it once I have cooled down, I will most likely still play non ladder. This still game still sucks.

Median Doesn't.

Play :33

[Nominus Experse]

I'm wondering what character and build I ought to create when the ladder resets. There is always the tried and true Meteor/Orb combination for Meph hunting, but I don't know...

What do you guys plan to create?

[Markus. D]

I've always wanted to try a Poison Javazon... I've seen one played.

It's beautiful *-*

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Umm, BadKarm, it was already completed when I uploaded it...

Did you realize that there are multiple sheets within the spreadsheet? You ought to be able to see them in the bottom-left hand corner, categorized by type (Armor, Jewelry & Charms, etc...)

Thanks for the thought though.

Original Post:
http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-gaming-discussion/93792-diablo-2-brother-sister-hood-eoff-19.html#post2215443

EDIT: Cim (and whoever else does not have Excel), I converted the sheets to a webpage, and then later a .rar file, so you can use this as well.

Silly me. I guess I truly was just desperate enough to make it since I can't play D2 at the moment. It was the closest thing. Aside from playing D1 on the Playstation. But I vow not to stoop that low.

[Edit: Reads rest of thread.] I hate Bnet. Im curious to see what I will still have on my chars when I come back. But alas, what is one to do? I think I am actually going to start playing Median. It seems much less tedious than the blasphemous kind of way Closed Bnet is nowadays...

[Tavrobel]

This is my kick with CoH:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot012.jpg

And this is my kick with Fortitude:
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/LunarWeaver/Screenshot013.jpg

Fortitude actually did less damage. Kickers are very fickle folk that way.


Lying Character Screen; I have to keep telling people about this. Numbers shown do not necessarily represent damage done. Diablo II has this very weird thing of the damage being done not actually always being represented. Usually, Fortitude shows damage, but in this case, it does not.

Unles the lack of +skills is taking effect here. I don't know the growth of the Asn Martial skills. It's certainly not exponential, but it could be self-stacking. Have you tried attacking an enemy?

[CimminyCricket]

I'm going to start a lightning sorc, Lunar will be an ice sorc, and apparently Fonz is going to be a fireball sorc. I demand that MAGIC_BONER joins us.

[Flying Mullet]

I'm going to start a lightning sorc, Lunar will be an ice sorc, and apparently Fonz is going to be a fireball sorc. I demand that MAGIC_BONER joins us.
It'll be like Charlie's Angels. :angel: