Diablo 2: The Brother (And Sister)hood of EoFF

[Tavrobel]

YES! I love realm downs for helping people with their equipment!

[Giga Guess]

Ah. Cool.

[EDIT] @ Lou, not Tav.

[Nominus Experse]

Tav witnessed one of the greatest moments of Nom's stupidity today.

But I suppose such a thing isn't very select.

[Khaotic]

Median anyone?

[Nominus Experse]

*Nubcake question*

What are these guilds and clans I hear of from time to time? A few people have tried getting me to join their clan/guild, sometimes even with enticing items.

So, veterans of online Diablo, what exactly are these guilds and clans that I sometimes hear of? Are they good, bad, etc?

[SeeDRankLou]

Anyone have a spare Wizardspike?

Guilds and clans were going to be an official thing in the game's system, but it was scrapped. If you hear of a guild or clan, they are just people that play together and give themselves a team name or something. I would say that we are a clan. A guild is a little too organized for us, and we are not as exclusive as guilds can be, but we are definately a clan.

[Nominus Experse]

Mulley had a Wizardspike, though I am not certain if he kept it or not.

[Giga Guess]

I have a Wizardspike, but I have no access to my Diablo 2 account at this time. :(

[Tavrobel]

So, veterans of online Diablo, what exactly are these guilds and clans that I sometimes hear of? Are they good, bad, etc?

Diablo II guilds and clans aren't really nubcake questions. This is a hard concept to grasp or explain.

Mostly, it is spill-off from the days of Starcraft popularity. In Starcraft, you could have what is called an Op channel, where a person, say "Moria" is currently in channel "Op Moria." Moria would have moderator functions, such as banning, kicking, and adding ops to a secondary "heir" (this is the offical term given from Battle.net when you "op" someone). People would often congregate in these channels with operational moderators (and heirs), and play together. This was done often because people were friends and had a common goal or interest, or even a style of gameplay.

Around 2002, Op channels and clans became much, much more proficient and widely recognized. While moderator options were not expanded, the release of the LotR movies began heralding a major shift in the maps played on Starcraft, called LotR (using LotR or Silmarillion heroes) or LotRish (using original heroes or stories). The premise of these maps is not necessary to know. During this time, Diablo had begun to get its synergies, forcing people to play in a party come Hell mode. Since Starcraft and Diablo use the same account information and realmtags, people would often switch on and off Diablo or Starcraft rapidly.

Essentially, Clans and Guilds are as SRL said. Clans are people who take common nametags (as account creation is incredibly easy), and play together, whether it be melee, UMS, or played DII. Guilds, however, aren't quite what one would think of in WoW (I also believe the WoW system is a bastardized version of Starcraft's), Guilds are simply a common group of people that share a common goal and may congregate in channels, but hold no allegiance to each other. Guild politics, while being severely anarchic, often did not have to deal with sabotage or things of the like, for people were merely associated, but not a part of something.

Whether they are good or evil, is really a question that could only be answered in the prime of their days. The Warcraft III system heavily contributed to popularity of Clans, since you can register "offical" clans, in the Warcraft III channels, and even something called "Clan" channels. The difference between these and Op channels, is that Clan channels are private unless allowed otherwise (they are also locked off when no one is in them, except Clan Members).

This leads to the conclusion that Ops channels can quickly be brought down by spammers (often Moderators and Spammers were bots), and force a disbandment due to raw confusion, and if successful, people would not know where to go and leaders would be forced to start over; Bots would sometimes lag from the spam, and disconnect, forcing no operational control. Clans can slo have up to 7 or 10 moderators, based on clan size. Clans in WCIII are disbanded only by Leaders (from 1 to all 10 of the original Clan founders), and all members are tagged until disbandment, and no longer need a new account (this is optional to make a new one). Strcraft players may join or be associated to WC clans, but are not offical members.

Clan politics are relatively close to international politics. Clans began dying out after the release of LotR: RotK, as the LotR buzz began fading. There are a few clans that survived, such as the ones on Warcraft III, if for melee (or non-LotR), and several DII and SC non-LotR clans.

Generally, I would discourage them, simply because they are needless trauma and pointless war making.

[Nominus Experse]

My, that was a bit to swallow.

Sounds silly to me. But why were they literally bribing me with torches (that I presume were duped or completely non-existent)?

Also, I found a Key of Hate if anyone needs it.

[Tavrobel]

Because they need members. Simple as that. The reason behind it is unecessary to know.

[Nominus Experse]

For one reason or another, I found a Collosus Voulge and a Cryptic Axe within minutes of each other. Socketed, what might these be worth? 1 or 2 hrs?

I also found an Arioc's Needle with +3 Skills and 230% Dmg Incease. Is this worth anything?

[SeeDRankLou]

If they are 4 or 5os the polearms will go for at least 1 hr. Infinity, Doom, Hand of Justice, Passion, Pheonix, Pride and Rift are all used on an act 2 merc (the first two being the most common), and socketed elite polearms are hard to come by. Some builds even benefit from an Insight all the way through their levels and end up putting Insight on an elite polearm (many who use an Insight only need it until @lv 75, so it gets put on an exceptional polearm). I don't think many people use a Cresent Moon, Breath of the Dying or Last Wish on their merc, but you might be able to sell a 3os or 6os one if someone wants to do that. I've seen all of the above runewords on act 2 mercs, but never those three. Still, you might get lucky. Also, due to the high str req on a Collossus Voulge you might not get that many takers on it. But you will definately get takers on the Cryptic Axe, which would be optimal for those runewords (unless it was ED-Superior and Ethereal, but those only exist in fairy tales :tongue: ).

Also, an Arioc's Needle is a common replacement for a lack of runeword Polearm, and you got the high end of the damage on that one. +3 to skills is not the highest, but still high. I would say you could get 2 hrs for that one.

[Nominus Experse]

I've decided to try and make a Hammerdin.

Any suggestions in terms of items and skills I ought to place effort in? What auras effect Blessed Hammer, what enemies are immune to this attack, etcetera etcetera...

[Flying Mullet]

Yes, I think one of my chars has a Wizardspike if anyone needs it.

[Khaotic]

/me is playing median all alone lately ;/

[Tavrobel]

For one reason or another, I found a Collosus Voulge and a Cryptic Axe within minutes of each other. Socketed, what might these be worth? 1 or 2 hrs?

I also found an Arioc's Needle with +3 Skills and 230% Dmg Incease. Is this worth anything?

They are only worth something if 4Os, or ethereal. The CV is worth more than the Cryptic Axe, because it's max of sockets is four. However, if they are both already 4Os, then the CV will fetch a high rune. Keep the Cryptic Axe, because it;s not worth anything, but a 4Os Pole is a 4Os Pole. You won't get anything better, nor could you expect to. There's no way to get it to 2 high runes, unless it is the CV, Superior with maximum enhanced damage (15%), Ethereal, and already has 4Os, and even then, that's pushing it.

No, but as SRL says, it's a replacement for Insight, Doom, or Pride A2 mercenaries. No one uses anything else, because they aren't really worth using on a mercenary. Those with A2 mercenaries are always busting out the Auras.


I've decided to try and make a Hammerdin.

Any suggestions in terms of items and skills I ought to place effort in? What auras effect Blessed Hammer, what enemies are immune to this attack, etcetera etcetera...

Vigor - synergy, max
Hammers - main attack, max
Concentrate - provides a massive bonus, max
Blessed Aim - synergy, max
Holy Shield - defensive properties, as it goes

Don't waste ANY skills in anything unnecessary, or anything past where you need it to be. You will need all of these skills for an effective Hammerdin, because, guess what, Hammerdins that only do 10k are considered "low." FCR is incredibly useful and a major necessity. The best of Hammerdins can do up to 20k with the right Grand Charms.

Stat distribution should go something akin to this:
Str - enough for Enigma (~77 for DS, ~105? for AP) and other spellcaster equipment
Dex - none, all should be provided by equipment bonuses, your primary weapon should be Hoto
Vit - all
Mana - none

Equipment should be close to, or exactly this:
Helm - any +skills, Shako, Ber'd or Um'd
Armor - Enigma
Weapon - Hoto or Spirit, CtA for the BO on tab 2
Shield - HoZ or Paladin Spirit with 35+ natural resistance, low or spare Paladin Spirit on tab 2
Gloves - Magefists or Trang Oul's for the FCR, no real options here
Belt - anything with resistance, Arach's (LOL like you're gonna get that)
Boots - anything with resistance, you don't really have too many options here)
Rings - SoJ, Manald, or FCR with resistance
Amulet - either a Rare with +Paladin Skills, resistance, life, or mana, or a +3 Combat Skills or Offensive Aura magic amulet
Charms - Paladin Offensive Auras, Paladin Combat Skills, Lifers

If you're going for an MFer build:
Shako with Ist or PTopaz
Enigma
6 Ist Sword, Gull, Ali Baba's with Ist
Rhyme, Milabrega's, Splendor
Any gloves
War Traveler's
Nagelrings
Anything with MF
Any charms work

Your mercenary, you should only have at level 80, and until then, do Baal runs:
Insight on Elite Pole
Fortitude Armor
Any +Str helm, such as Guillame's or Natalya's, Dream
Aura - Holy Freeze, Defiance, Prayer

Don't worry about Immune monsters. Demons and Undead take full or extra damage. Only Magic Immune Animals are of any concenr, of which there are very few.

[Flying Mullet]

I've updated the player information panel.

Added a Median section. Maxx Power is noted to be in charge of this one, and has been removed from inactive players, while Khaotic has moved down.

Also note that I have added tags after player names. If you need to remember which accounts to add, add only the ones with the (primary) tag after the account name. These, for the time being, will be Tavrobel, Valarauko, and Faelivrin. You may remove the others from your friends list to save space.

In the next update, I may consider adding AIM, MSN, or Y!M names, if provided.

If you have private games where people can find you whilst not in EoFF (and you do not disdain being disturbed at the time), then provide them for me, if you wish.
The latest page is uploaded:
http://www.homemade-websites.com/eoffdiablogroup.php

[Tavrobel]

I'll be developing the Median section next update, assuming anyone gets back to me.

8 PMs and only one response. I feel so neglected.

Even Psychotic and Lunarweaver are ignoring me.

EDIT: Diablo II is a fucking Jewish game. I just lost a 33 Hoto for no goddamn reason, because I thought the game was still EoFF, when it wasn't. So I forgot the password, and couldn't get it back. Lost my Druid's gloves, also. Now I'm back down to 2 Hoto instead of three. A 33 Hoto lost is not worth a 37 made. Fucking Jewish game.

EDIT2: You know, I used to think that hacking was for newbs, or duping, but I see now it isn't. with a game that has nothing to support loyal players, Blizzard consistently attempts to screw you over, and will do anything in its power to do so. Hacking on SC and WCIII is still Jewish, by all means. But in DII it just seems that people are also trying to make up for unjustly lost items.

[Flying Mullet]

8 PMs and only one response. I feel so neglected.
I haven't played the Median Mod enough yet to have any info for you on my char(s).

[Tavrobel]

Yeah, well, doesn't matter anyways. I'm quitting Diablo for the time being, and focusing on Warcraft III. SRL has full access to all of my accounts, so ask him if you need something.

[Giga Guess]

Will do!

[SeeDRankLou]

So Tav, I sent you the PM before I read your post, so I already know the answer to my question. I'll keep your stuff alive, no worries.

Remember, I'm usually on after 6pm central time if you need anything from Tav.

I have made a full on dedicated Druid Summoner, named alphaSRL. He's kind of fun so far, we'll see.

[Giga Guess]

Wow...has anyone looked at the Eastern Sun mod? Looks interesting. I may give it a test run over the next couple of days.

[Nominus Experse]

Need xfer really, really bad.

Tav rescued me.

[Tavrobel]

As it turns out, I am somewhat competent at owning newbs on WCIII melee.

[CimminyCricket]

O_o Really? If I were to buy it, is it worth playing? I can get it for less than 5 $ new.

[Tavrobel]

LOL no you can't. The last time I checked, WCIII was still 20 dollars per part.

[Khaotic]

LOL no you can't. The last time I checked, WCIII was still 20 dollars per part.
Dude, there could be a store by him having a clearance sale or something, don't be so jumpy.


Anyways, what the hell is going on with median? It's like no one is playing it anymore, and someone is even mentioning a different mod? Should I just delete it or something?

[Tavrobel]

The real driving force behind Median was Maxx Power. Since he is taking a break, it's kinda not being mentioned.

[Nominus Experse]

The fact that I can now do Countess/Andy/Shenk/Pindleskin/Duriel/Sumoner/Nihilthak runs in around ten minutes or less each has kind of halted my attempts to do anything more with Median.

I may yet come back and play Median again.

[Khaotic]

I just don't understand why you guys want to continue playing normal D2, I honestly cannot see what is keeping you guys playing the same old thing everyday, it's not even like a real mmorpg, the community is nearly non-existent, you need to risk dupes and other malicious trades, you do the same thing every_single_game, and there's nothing to even look forward to.

Atleast in something like Median you can do the uberquests, hunt for new items, make new runewords, and most important, you don't need to deal with Bnet problems.

[Nominus Experse]

I've tried understanding it myself, believe me.

My situation is a little different, in that unlike Tav, I haven't been playing Diablo online for four or more years. This is really my first or second year playing online, and really, I didn't play it religiously until four months ago.

But yes, the fact remains that I am basically doing the same fucking thing over and over again. Why that entertains me, I don't know.

[CimminyCricket]

I'm still playing because I'm finding that I like making new builds. Before, I only played for 6-7 months and had a hdin, orb sorc, crappy frenzy barb, and a wonderful summoner necro. that was it. oh and mules.

Now I have another hdin, a good barb, another orbsorc, an elemental druid, and an amazon that's coming along.

And yes, Tav, there is a clearance, the regular WIII is 4:58 or something so because I get a 10% discount hells yes, I'll buy it, only assuming it's good.

[Giga Guess]

Not to mention, each game has randomization. "Yeah, yeah" I hear, but for example: my Fire Sorc can clean the floor one time, but if I encounter Fire Immunes (Like the Undead Knights in Worldstone Keep/Chaos Sanctuary) I have to pray that my merc can handle them. not to mention, it helps that I'm building to achieve an item set, so that helps. In short...I dunno. Obsessiveness? I just know I like it!

[Nominus Experse]

SMURF YOU B.NET! SMURF YOU!

Go to hell, OMFG...

[Tavrobel]

I just don't understand why you guys want to continue playing normal D2, I honestly cannot see what is keeping you guys playing the same old thing everyday...


SMURF YOU B.NET! SMURF YOU!

Go to hell, OMFG...

Nice and simple reason, Khaotic.

The first is that Blizzard fans are like abused little children. Despite the and suffering and dumbocracy of the Blizzard entertainment group, loyal fans will blindly come back for more, and defend Blizzard, foot and teeth.

[Khaotic]

:confused: I could just give you addicts my stuff.

[Giga Guess]

I just don't understand why you guys want to continue playing normal D2, I honestly cannot see what is keeping you guys playing the same old thing everyday...


SMURF YOU B.NET! SMURF YOU!

Go to hell, OMFG...

Nice and simple reason, Khaotic.

The first is that Blizzard fans are like abused little children. Despite the and suffering and dumbocracy of the Blizzard entertainment group, loyal fans will blindly come back for more, and defend Blizzard, foot and teeth.

Or just a vendetta...out to prove that we will win...someday...someday.

[Giga Guess]

Is there a recipe to put sockets in a set item, or is Larzuk my only option in that matter?

[Tavrobel]

Set items must come with sockets. Otherwise, Larzuk.

Don't socket set items unless you really need it. And most of the time, you don't need it.

[Giga Guess]

Yeah, I just need to get a few more levels. Damn the Chains for making the Shield unusable otherwise. :(

[Nominus Experse]

I need a xfer really bad - again.
Thank you once again Tav.

[Tavrobel]

Done.

[Nominus Experse]

There seems to now be Uber Duriel runs, which in fact actually net more experience than the classic Baal runs.

I found this kind of funny.

[Tavrobel]

You have to kill Duriel first, but yeah, they do net more experience. I can gain a level with my 84 Paladin when he was but a mere 83 by clearing out Forgotten Sands by myself. that's because the monsters in the Uber areas are >85.

[Giga Guess]

How do you get Forgotten Sands?

[EDIT] Oh, and does anyone have any +Strength Charms? Or a decent ring?

[EDIT2] Nevermind. Nom remedied my situation.

[Tavrobel]

How do you get Forgotten Sands?

You synthesize three Keys dropped by the Countess, the Summoner, and Nihlathak, the Terror, Hate, and Destruction. Upon making, it will create one of three portals, one of which leads to an uber boss; one of them is Duriel.

This is part of the Uber Tristram Uber-Quest.

By using the Uber Duriel Mod, you can get it by a simple modification of the d2_patch.mpq file in your local Diablo II folder, and two major waypoints, Canyon of the Magi, and either the second or third in Act 5. The modification can be found here (http://www.edgeofnowhere.cc/viewtopic.php?t=348408&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0). However, note that this is, by definition, a modification, and you can have your account banned by playing this on the closed realms.

By the way, unless you have a pure, concentrated, magic caster build, you will have a very difficult time defeating Duriel. My 7k Zealadin and 5k Tornado Druid can't even defeat Uber Duriel easily. My Frenzy Barb can do this, but only because his attack beard is too fast for Duriel to handle. And you need micromanagement skills.

[Giga Guess]

Oh, trust me...I don't have my hopes up just yet...:p

BTW, I'm putting out an APB if anyone happens to find a Rising Sun Amulet. I know my chances are slim on that one, but if anyone comes across it, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Muchos Gracias!

[Tavrobel]

You already have Tal's Amulet. You don't need Rising Sun, unless you are going to completely revamp your build.

[Giga Guess]

Tal's is good, but eventually I'll outgrow it. Rising Sun has excellent Fire Mods, plus, at high levels, an excellent Fire Absorb ability.

[Tavrobel]

Sorceresses don't get hit. If you're getting hit, we have a problem.

Additionally, you lose the resistance and Set bonuses that come with the Amulet.

[Giga Guess]

Hrmmm...I coulda sworn it was +3 to Fire Skills. Okay, I stand corrected. You are correct my friend.

[Tavrobel]

Hrmmm...I coulda sworn it was +3 to Fire Skills. Okay, I stand corrected. You are correct my friend.

Rising Sun has +2, while Tal's Ammy also has +2.

[Giga Guess]

Hrmmm...I coulda sworn it was +3 to Fire Skills. Okay, I stand corrected. You are correct my friend.

Rising Sun has +2, while Tal's Ammy also has +2.

I also thought for a second there that there was a further Fire bonus...don't know where I got that from, but without it...yeah, it's redundant.

[Nominus Experse]

My Auramancer has at last swollen to a very promising and lovely bud. I need only a small xfer of my Bramble and Dream helm, and I shall see these auras dancing about.

Lvl 9 Fanaticism
Lvl 20 Concentration
Lvl 15+ Might
Lvl 14 Holy Fire
Lvl 15 Holy Shock
Lvl 20 Thorns

Two of them aren't really needed, but I wanted to make something out of my Superior Troll Nest, and I already had a Bramble.

And I also happened to make a +6 BO CtA yesterday, effectively making my minions invincible.

2325.93 HP per Skeleton Warrior and 898.53 per Skeletal Mage.

And my Fire Golem will have 12976.53 HP. A Clay Golem would sit in the range of 48000 HP.

Eventually, without any charms, I will end up sitting in the 4000s.


There is one profound drawback to this build:
My resists are mangled pieces of :skull::skull::skull::skull:. I may just make a Sanctuary or try to find/trade resist all small charms to compensate.



This is a very fun build, and actually moves quite fast.
And blobbing is just plain lagomancer fun.

[Tavrobel]

If you get on, I'll find a way to up your resistances without a major shift in equipment. Alternatively, you can tell me what you have equipped, by parts of equipment, right here.

[Nominus Experse]

Orted Shako, which I would like to replace with Um at some future point.
Beast'd Zerker
Spirit or Dragon shield. It's a requirement that I use the Spirit in Hell mode, due to its resists.
Trang's Belt
Trang's Gloves
Maras
2x SoJ

On switch, its CtA with Spirit


I do have some resistance small charms on a few other characters, but I believe I'll still be sitting in the negatives when those are applied to this character.


I won't be on until later today, as I have the day with my girl.

[Tavrobel]

Trang's Belt could be replaced with Credendum of the Disciple set, which has +15 resistance, as the synergy for Trang's +40 Cold needs 3 items. Your Boots should either be Aldur's or high Natalya's. Armor should be Enigma, or Chains of Honor, if your resistance REALLY need the kick.

Generally, Summoners should use Enigma, just so you dont lose anything, but Summoners usually don't ever get hit. Ditch the Bramble, as Thorns can be provided by a little friend I like to call, an Act II mercenary, more specifically, Combat Nightmare.

Your merc could wear it instead, and you can opt for a Might/Defiance mercenary, but you sacrifice Fortitude. Then you can make a Doom, which has Holy Freeze, Pride, which has Concentrate, Hand of Justice has Holy Fire, Infinity (LOL YEAH RIGHT).

Can't use Last Wish because of Beast, but that may be covered by mercenary. Dragon can be worn, if you lack a Holy Fire.

I'll finish this up later after a response or further research.

[CimminyCricket]

I have the belt that Tav was talking about if you want it, I don't need it. I'll be later on tonight.

[Nominus Experse]

Thanks to half an inventory of resist charms, I am now sitting in the 30-60 range of all my resists (given, of course, by Tav).

Blob blob...

[Giga Guess]

I may need Fire Res Charms...we'll see.

[Nominus Experse]

If I am going to Uber with this character, I am going to NEED a Vampire Gaze. Although it's not needed, an Infinity runeword. would be wondrous as well.

Would any of you happen to have a Vampire Gaze I could use, or know the trading value of one? The Infinity I ought to be able to make in due time, but I can't seem to find this seemingly very popular mercenary helm - the Vampire Gaze.

[Giga Guess]

If I am going to Uber with this character, I am going to NEED a Vampire Gaze. Although it's not needed, an Infinity runeword. would be wondrous as well.

Would any of you happen to have a Vampire Gaze I could use, or know the trading value of one? The Infinity I ought to be able to make in due time, but I can't seem to find this seemingly very popular mercenary helm - the Vampire Gaze.

Kinda like the one you gave me for my Merc? :p

If you need it, just give me a suitable replacement, please.

[Nominus Experse]

I gave you a Vampire Gaze (http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/exceptional/uhelms.shtml)?

[CimminyCricket]

GG, I think I gave you that, I know I gave someone a Vampire Gaze, and if Nom needs it, I have a number of probable replacements.

[Nominus Experse]

Never mind, I don't need an Infinity runeword like I stupidly thought I did. My Poison Mages ought to halt the Ubers' health regeneration. Additionally, Infinity doesn't provide an offensive bonus like my Pride does.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

I haven't been on in forever, whats the general standard for gear nowadays. (PS, Im interested in joining the "hood")

I've been playing since the game came out, but not actively in the past 12 months or so. I have 2 level 85ish characters but sadly they are USWest and Non-ladder, but I am willing to start anew.

[Nominus Experse]

It depends greatly on what class and even more importantly, what build you plan on creating of that character.

Everyone continues to love and adore Shakos, Vampire Gazes, Crown of Ages; Torches, Annis; SoJs/BKs/Ravenfrosts; and Maras/Cat's Eyes/Highlord's/Seraph's; godly rare/crafted items, most notably circlets and ammies; skillers and res small charms with life mods; etc...

The above is quite general, as a Cerberus Bite means nothing to an Auramancer, but might make a Shapeshifting Druid quite happy.

In short, it depends on your class and build.

[Tavrobel]

I got Nominus his Vampire Gaze.

I'll send you an information sheet, soon, unless someone else wants to send him one, instead. Once you get on, I may decide to pimp your character. If I get on, that is. Otherwise, SRL will be doing that for me.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Well my good characters on my USWest account... one is a Summoning Necro, he has Full Trangs, Arm of Leoric, Marrowwalk, SOjs, Mara, torch, anni etc etc etc.

My other is a sorc which really wasn't that great anymore. Trielemental (Thunderstorm, Meteor, orb) Lots of charms and the like but otherwise bland since I made her pre 1.11 (Pre-synergies)

But I love playing characters of all sorts. All my other characters worth anything were deleted long ago, but I also enjoy bowazons and assassins of any kind from time to time.

I just started a summ. necro on East, so that'll be the first char I build up.

[Giga Guess]

I just started a summ. necro on East, so that'll be the first char I build up.

LOL! I'm sure I'll be bringing you goodies soon enough.

[Nominus Experse]

Giga finds all my charms.

NOTE: I just noticed this thread has 1320+ posts, and around 12k views. This thread has become quite bloated, I think. It will one day eat another thread, I swear.

And Bad Karma, I play Necromancers stupidly religiously, so I will likely have some goods you can have.

[Giga Guess]

I find all the Necro items PERIOD!

And I'm pretty sure this thread has a steady diet of "HU DO J00 LIK MOAR?!?!? TIFA OR AERIS?" threads.

[Tavrobel]

And Bad Karma, I play Necromancers stupidly.

No need to strike that out. Infinity on a Summoner Necro? LOL!

I think this thread eats Kingdom Hearts newbs.

[Nominus Experse]

Shut up, it was late.

EDIT: I <3 realm downs.

[CimminyCricket]

xD Restart your computer and then log back in, it always works for me.

[Nominus Experse]

Actually, I just realized why it was that I wanted the Infinity rune word so very much: 40% crushing blow. Pride may be glorious in how much damage it can create, but crushing blow is far faster.

Taking 1/8 or 1/16 off of Baal/Diablo/Mephisto's life makes a difference when they begin with 660k life (by the time they reach a level of health to where crushing blow no longer matters, the normal damage output ought to suffice). The chance to cut their life bit by bit means more in the end than what Pride gives.

Combined with Guillaume's Face, that's 75% of Crushing Blow on my merc.

And with a lovely mob of Urdars/Gorebellies/etc, there ought to be a a lot of Crushing Blow.

I don't think that the extra 40% is really needed, due to the Urdars, but having it would be rather nice indeed.

[SeeDRankLou]

Muah ha ha ha. I am the winner.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/maddylouis/EoFF/berserkeraxe.jpg

Now I just have to find some runes really quick.

[Nominus Experse]

I believe it is high time I made an Enchantress

[SeeDRankLou]

I hate those builds that are really boring until lv 30. Take for example the Singing Barb. Standard melee Barb until level 30, which quite frankly is boring. Battle Cry made it a tad interesting, but now that I have War Cry it's actually fun. I can Leap into the center of a pack and start War Cry-ing, and they are all stunned and helpless to do anything. This is the first time that the only real option for an act 2 merc is the Prayer one. Of course I'm not in nightmare yet, but I might try out a Thorns merc, just for the hell of it. None of their auras really help this character, except for Prayer, which helps a tad. Or maybe a Might merc for his own benefit. I don't know, but at least it's playable now.

[Tavrobel]

Actually, I just realized why it was that I wanted the Infinity rune word so very much: 40% crushing blow. Pride may be glorious in how much damage it can create, but crushing blow is far faster.

Taking 1/8 or 1/16 off of Baal/Diablo/Mephisto's life makes a difference when they begin with 660k life (by the time they reach a level of health to where crushing blow no longer matters, the normal damage output ought to suffice). The chance to cut their life bit by bit means more in the end than what Pride gives.

Combined with Guillaume's Face, that's 75% of Crushing Blow on my merc.

And with a lovely mob of Urdars/Gorebellies/etc, there ought to be a a lot of Crushing Blow.

I don't think that the extra 40% is really needed, due to the Urdars, but having it would be rather nice indeed.

CB does not stack. If you have a value of 25% CB, and 66% CB, those values will only trigger respectively, not additive. CB is also reduced in great proportions against bosses, particularly against Uber-bosses. The only character who can use CB is a Smiter, because they have a natural stun, Life Tap, and life. Urdars don't have that luxury, nor the IAS.

By the way, the ubers eat mercenaries as quickly as I drink water. And there ain't no one who drinks water like me.

Stick with the Pride. It won't matter how much damage your mercenary can do, because he will be dead the entire time. Plus, if your goons are going to hit the monsters in Tristram, they'll need all the damage they can get, not just one character, hitting something repeatedly, hopefully, not dying.

[Giga Guess]

How does Crushing Blow work, anyways?

[Tavrobel]

Percentage listed is the likelihood of doing that much percent from an enemy's HP or adds to damage, whichever is greater. Essentially, if you have 65% CB, there is a 65% chance for you to deal an attack that takes 65% of the enemy's HP, unless the damage you deal is greater than that amount.

[SeeDRankLou]

Tav, are you sure you are talking about Crushing Blow?

Taken from http://battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic.shtml#sma (scroll down a little)

Crushing Blow
This is a chance of reducing a monster's health by X% in a single blow.

-Default: 1/4th
-vs. Players: 1/10th
-vs. Hirelings: 1/10th
-vs. Champions, Uniques, Bosses: 1/8th
-with missile weapons, default: 1/8th
-with missile weapons, vs. Players: 1/20th
-with missile weapons, vs Hirelings: 1/20th
-with missile weapons, vs Champions, Uniques, Bosses: 1/16th

The life removed is also scaled with number of players. So that if a monster has 450% more life due to 8 players (or whatever the value is) the life removed is further reduced by the same amount (450% would equal multiplying by 4.5 so the life removed by Crushing Blow is divided by 4.5).

* It is possible to get up to 100% chance for Crushing Blow. Anything above 100% is discarded.
* Physical resistance does apply to Crushing Blow damage, but only if the resistance is positive.
* Crushing Blow Items stack in most cases.
* Since 1.10 Crushing Blow is calculated before your normal damage. So, before doing the damage that you would normally do, there is a chance you will reduce the health of the monster by X% then normal damage apply to the resulting lower life. If you have more than one item with Crushing Blow, the probabilities will be added together. There will be one random check for a Crushing Blow. There is no check for each separate item, so one can not get multiple Crushing Blows in one attack.

[Nominus Experse]

Hmmm.... I guess it will be a giant experiment when I go to Uber Tristram. If I have an Infinity (unlikely) I'll try that for a bit, and switch it out for a Pride half way through.

That is, of course, if I am not dead within three seconds of entering.

[CimminyCricket]

xD I don't know if I'm going to be able to play for a bit.

I broke the window in my room with my head.
<_<
It was an accident.

I tripped on my cat. xD

This is awesome.

[Nominus Experse]

True warriors play no matter the weather or situation.

Just shove your cat in the window space, being quite generous with the tape. Now the sun won't glare your screen, and you won't trip over your cat again.

Plus who has a furry window? You do.

Perfect fix.

[CimminyCricket]

xD My cat isn't large enough to fit in the hole.
It's surprising really, I barely it the thing and it popped right the hell out.
I said, "WTF, HEAD, WHY DID YOU DO THAT?!"
I'll get a picture in a few.
And then I'll force my kitty to stand next to it.

[Nominus Experse]

I am in need of a 4oS Phase Blade

[Tavrobel]

I am in need of a 4oS Phase Blade

I have a 4Os PB.

Get online.

[Giga Guess]

Hey Nom! I have the Sickle for your Halo if you wish...and a Unique Bone Shield you may want to look at.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

I've got all of trangs aside from the helm, let me know if any of you guys spot one.

[Nominus Experse]

I have one you can use

[Tavrobel]

I've got Trang's Shield, Armor, and Gloves, but that's about it.

[Giga Guess]

Ironically, for being the main Necro finder in the group, I have none of Trang's items... O_o I find this rather odd.

[Tavrobel]

I'd rather that you continue finding P&B GCs, as opposed to Trang Oul's parts.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Well all I need is the helm and I should be good. I'll be on tonight after I get out of work.

[Giga Guess]

I'd rather that you continue finding P&B GCs, as opposed to Trang Oul's parts.

Hey, I take my magic finds any way I can get 'em... :p

ZOMG I found a Gheed's last night! I so happy!

[CimminyCricket]

You needed a gheed's?
Why didn't you say anything? I've had to let go a few of them because I can't carry more than one.

[Giga Guess]

Didn't necessarily *need* one, but they do help, and I didn't have one for my Sorceress up until last night. :p

(Edited for accuracy)

[Flying Mullet]

Didn't necessarily *need* one, but they do help, and I didn't have one up until last night. :p
What happened to the one I gave you?

[Tavrobel]

I think I have a spare Gheed's somewhere.

[Giga Guess]

Didn't necessarily *need* one, but they do help, and I didn't have one up until last night. :p
What happened to the one I gave you?

Still on my Druid. Now I have one for both my Druid AND my Sorc. Sorry...I guess I worded my prior post rather awkwardly.

[CimminyCricket]

I need low level gear that adds to strength.

Someone help?

[VorpalCyberWolf]

I have some low lvl set stuff you can have. Not sure which of it boosts strength though.

[Tavrobel]

Sigon's has Strength boosts.

[Flying Mullet]

But don't you need a lot of strength to equip most of it? Cim's necro's strength is around 20.

[CimminyCricket]

24 to be exact.

[Flying Mullet]

I thought it was 24.2? :confused:

[Giga Guess]

:eek:

NEVER omit the decimal! The decimal > All!

[CimminyCricket]

I'm sorry! 24.2 is my real life strength which, Monkey Man, is why I also asked you for some bad ass real life strength enhancing items.
My DII Necro's strength is exactly 24.

[Giga Guess]

Pssssh. 24.2? I'm a solid 78 here... *flexes*

[Tavrobel]

276 on Barbarian! Suck on that, popsicles!

My real-life Strength, is a mediocre 1. However, as I am almost 100% like Zexion, I use a Book to attack my enemies, and therefore, I am the smartest of the smart, and I have chemicals!

[Giga Guess]

Eeesh...tomorrow I *HAVE* to xfer...but I found a cool Necro wand (surprise, surprise...)

[SeeDRankLou]

Would someone mind getting on for like 5 seconds, pretty please? :D

Nevermind.....yay!
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/maddylouis/EoFF/grief.jpg

[Nominus Experse]

I need a few of your brains to help my own shriveled up one.


For my Enchantress Sorceress, I'm wondering if I ought to place all my points in Mana instead of Vitality.

I wonder if this may be a better option than Vitality due to the fact that Energy Shield will absorb around 93-95 percent of all damage done in exchange for around .75 Mana per point of damage. Additionally, there are items that boost maximum Mana by a very substantial amount , whereas I have yet to see an item give a maximum Life boost of 40% or 25%. Obviously, the higher the base number, the greater the percentage increase. A Sorceress also gains more Mana than Life per level.

And since I'm maxing Warmth and Enchant due to its bonuses (Increased Dmg, AR, and duration), "Life" will have a recovery rate of around 360%. I've thought about using an Insight mercenary, which would give me a Mana regeneration of around 1060%, but I don't know how applicable that would actually be. And the Conviction Aura is somewhat needed due to Sorceresses not having any skills other than Enchant that grant AR bonuses - not to mention the fact that such an aura removes most Lightning and/or Fire immunities.

3000 or so Mana is quite a barrier, if I do say so myself, and made even more so when each point of damage done is literally reduced by a 1/4 before my ES feels the brunt of it. But that barrier can be broken, especially since it takes full damage instead of receiving resist bonuses (I believe). Only my Life receives such a luxury. And the scary part of it all is that I would only have around 580 Life if I pour points in Mana instead of Life.

It's a shame that resists are not factored in until after Energy Shield has taken damage, because I ought to have 74% resists on all elements in Hell difficulty - a feat usually only achieved by Paladins.



So I'm not entirely certain what route I ought to take. I have done a number of test runs in Single Player, and placing all my points in Mana instead of Life seemed a better option. The only real issue I had when placing all my points in Mana instead of Vitality was when I came across hordes of Lightning enchanted Scarab Beetles in the Worldstone Keep. For one reason or another, these slaughtered me (probably because of the resists not being factored in for ES), even going so far as to crash the game.

But everything else, I was able to kill (and with ease, I might add) and survive with payers set to 8 - including Baal's Minions of Destruction.

Everything dies in one or two hits, and Baal dies in around four or five.

31897 average damage is sexy (without Conviction Aura from Mercenary factored in).



*An interesting thing I found out is that I am almost immune to the curses Weaken and Iron Maiden. Since all my damage comes from a stacked Lvl 30 Holy Shock aura and Enchant, The effects of Weaken or minimal, and Iron Madain only caused my Mana to deplete by around 700-1000.

EDIT: I was thinking that it may prove beneficial for all of us playing to make a list of items that we are currently IN NEED OF, OMFG looking for. It may a compliment to the character sheet, or I could simply post updates every week.

If this sounds of any use or interest to you, PM me.




And I need a pair of Frostburns, along with any Small Charms with the following mods:
Fine (AR)
Steel (AR)
Iron (AR)
Serpent's (Mana)
Vita (Life)
Balance (FHR)

Any small charms that deal more than 20-30 Fire or Lightning damage.

[Tavrobel]

To be honest, I don't know how Energy Shield works best, nor Enchant. I know that there are some attacks that can ignore Energy Shield, and ALWAYS deal Life damage. With boosted Mana, you will also have to worry about Blood Curse.

You will have to worry about your Mana instead of your life, but Warmth and Insight could take care of that, if you're completely drained of Mana. You could also invest in one of the Ice Armors, if you have some spare skills.

BTW, both my Druid and Hammerdin have full resistances in Hell. My Barbarian and Zealadin can cast Fade.

Shriveled brains are a sign of intelligence, since the greater the creases in your brain, the more information.

[Nominus Experse]

It will net me more points if I devote points into Energy instead of Vitality, so I think I'll do that.

As for the attacks that pass through ES... I guess I'll either have to kill very swiftly or Tele away.

And yes, one of the Ice armours is most definitely needed for the Defense boost (~65%).

My characters always suck when it comes to resists, so this is something new to me.


And yes, indeed, shriveled brains are more intelligent, but I fear mine sometimes goes lax.

[Tavrobel]

What weapon do you think you will use?

Two-handed or one-handed?

[Nominus Experse]

One handed:
Phase Blade (Passion Runeword)

[Tavrobel]

LOL Dexterity rating.

EDIT: Are you considering Max block rate with Stormshield?

[Giga Guess]

Does anyone have a spare set of Aldur's Boots I could use? Even just for comparison purposes for my Sorc...tonight that is...damn this working for a living thing...*grumble, grumble*

[Tavrobel]

I think I gave out my last one, but if you're on when I am, my Druid can lend his to you.

[Giga Guess]

No, I'd rather you not have to strip a functional character for me, but thanks!

[Nominus Experse]

Does anyone know if you can stack auras on your character? I know you cannot do this on your mercenary any longer since there was a bug involved in stacking auras on your merc (duping or making you invincible - something of that nature).

But I haven't read anything that says if you can or can't do this on your character....

[Giga Guess]

Define stacking, please, as my merc has Prayer and Meditation, and both work seamlessly, I think.

[Nominus Experse]

Stacking would be when you have two auras of the same, such as a Dream Helmet and a Dream Shield. Both grant a Lvl 15 Holy Shock aura, and if they stack, they would then net me a Lvl 30 Holy Shock aura.

So basically, its adding like aura levels up.

With a Lvl 20 Lightning Mastery, the Lightning damage bonuses of a high Holy Shock aura are insane.


However, you can't do this on a merc now, and the same may or may not be true for your actual character.

[Tavrobel]

Define stacking, please, as my merc has Prayer and Meditation, and both work seamlessly, I think.

Putting on the same Aura twice on a character. For example, a Paladin with Last Wish, and Might skilled to level 20. Having Might active while Last Wish is equipped, would be stacking.

Different auras, such as Prayer and Meditation, work normally, and are calculated independently of each other.

However, in Diablo II, the non Holy Auras cannot stack. The one that is the strongest will take over, unless multiple characters have the same item. The character with the strongest source will apply to others, but the one with a weaker source will apply based on whose was cast (or switched) the most recently.

In simpler terms, if I had two Paladins, one with a level 15 and a level 12 Concentrate, the level 15 would affect everyone. However, if the level 12 switches his skill to his own Concentrate, his Concentrate will be calculated, instead of the 15. However, this does not compromise allied damage.

This seems to be my understanding of the situation.


Does anyone know if you can stack auras on your character? I know you cannot do this on your mercenary any longer since there was a bug involved in stacking auras on your merc (duping or making you invincible - something of that nature).

But I haven't read anything that says if you can or can't do this on your character....

I haven't found it either. Continuing on from my previous paragraph, normally, Auras don't stack. However, the Holy Auras (Fire, Freeze, and Shock) are supposedly able to stack. I've never heard of them duping, but they can make you riggedly uber. I believe that in the patch notes, this was stopped in a previous patch, but I do not know for sure., since Blizzard patch notes are so reliable.

This seemed to only apply to Mercenaries, when I heard about it, however.

I, personally, would go with the safer route, and make a Dragon shield.

[Giga Guess]

However, in Diablo II, the non Holy Auras cannot stack. The one that is the strongest will take over, unless multiple characters have the same item. The character with the strongest source will apply to others, but the one with a weaker source will apply based on whose was cast (or switched) the most recently.

Which is why (Or at least so I've heard) that the only way to be able to use onviction on the Ubers it to first be able to beat Mephisto's aura in level, yes?

[Tavrobel]

I think they apply differently when enemies have the same aura. However, Conviction is an exception, and why is of a complete mystery to me. Conviction doesn't affect its caster.

Yes, Mephisto's Conviction can be cancelled when a Paladin has a level Conviction > Mephisto's. The one from Mercenary and Infinity is too low to be boosted, and Mercenaries tend to die. Alot.

[CimminyCricket]

Mercenaries suck.

[Tavrobel]

You suck!*

In the context that Auras are your god, and therefore, you should bow down.

[Flying Mullet]

I still remember when I was first playing D2 I was getting pissed at my crappy Rouge hireling because she kept dying. I was playing a Paladin and I had to keep Prayer on, pump points into it and burn through mana potions like crazy(this was before you could buy mana potions at the store). All just to keep my stupid merc alive.

[Tavrobel]

Yeah, Vanilla mercenaries kinda suck.

EDIT: Also, for those who are interested, there is a new update of Median.

http://files.filefront.com/7248199

[Flying Mullet]

EDIT: Also, for those who are interested, there is a new update of Median.
And I'm just about to enter the Durance of Hate in Normal difficulty. Perhaps I'll celebrate by smacking around Mephisto in the new update.

[Tavrobel]

We can obviously still use our old characters.

[Giga Guess]

You suck!*

In the context that Auras are your god, and therefore, you should bow down.

Very true, so sayeth one who is in a bad, bad way without Insight...

[Tavrobel]

Melee characters don't need mana regeneration.

[Giga Guess]

No, but bombardier sorceresses do.

[Nominus Experse]

When anyone has the time, a rush would be most appreciated as I'll be a sitting duck until Lvl 24, and I won't be able to deal any worthy damage until Lvl 65.

I think leveling will be the most difficult part, but, perhaps I ought to persevere solo, as I think it's time I finally had a challenge of sorts.

[Tavrobel]

LOL rollback. As a result, we have lost two precious posts from this thread. We should all now take a moment of silence for those two threads, and approximately 30 PMs to Psychotic.

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Now that that's over with, we may proceed. A new version of Median, 1.51.
http://files.filefront.com/7310530

By the way, EoFF fails.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Just so people know. The computer I usually play on is currently offline so I wont be on for a couple days or so.

[CimminyCricket]

I like Pokemon, I'll not be on for a bit.

[Nominus Experse]

It is impossible

[CimminyCricket]

What is impossible?

[Giga Guess]

Okay, I'm looking for an opinion for my Uber build for my sorc (Aside from the fact that I have a LOT of wishful thinking going on...)

Helm: Dream. Decent Res. All (5-20 I believe) and if Lightning Mastery Affects the active aura, all the better.
Armor: Chains of Honor. I have it, and it quite simply can't be beat. Massive Resistance bonus, good skills boost, can't lose!
Shield: Spirit. Pretty much, see above.
Weapon: Heart of the Oak. A whopping +3 all skills and a myriad of sweet bonuses. Plus, as a flail, it can help me out if I need to duke it out (God forbid...)
Boots: Aldur's. Have 'em, but it balances the Fire that Spirit lacks.

Here's where it gets into Wishful thinking:
Belt: The Spider Belt (It's name eludes me) solely for another +1 to skills.
Ammy: Mara's Amulet
Rings: A SoJ and a Bul Kathos (Yeah, right. :p)

Any suggested tweaks?

[Flying Mullet]

I would dye her hair bright orange and give her a tattoo.

[Giga Guess]

I would dye her hair bright orange and give her a tattoo.

Roxxorz punk sorc!

[Tavrobel]

There will be no Avril Lavigne references in my thread.

Helm should be Shako. Dream does not help Lightning skills at all, since Holys only affect melee damage.

Weapon should be an Eschuta's. It is much better than Hoto, damage-wise. Sorceress don't hit with melee weapons. Ever. And I do mean ever. Same skill bonus (if found properly), and a bonus to damage percentage. By the way, Flails don't actually deal damage once past Normal Act I.

Belt is Arach's.

Both rings should be an SoJ. Bul Kathos is for melee characters only, since Sorceresses don't use Lifesteal or Manasteal.

[Giga Guess]

Does Ecutcha's come in +3?

[Tavrobel]

+1, +2, +3. You really do need to learn your essential items.

+% Damage is for Fire and Lightning, ranging from 10 to 20% for each one separately.

[Giga Guess]

That's not very nice... :(

But yeah, if it comes in +3, I may have to find one...do I dare ask what they traditionally go for?

[CimminyCricket]

2-3 hrs generally

[Giga Guess]

And a High Rune is Um and up, right?

[Nominus Experse]

What I would use:

HELM

Harlequin Crest Shako

Defense: 98-141 (varies)
Required Level: 62
Required Strength: 50
Durability: 12
+2 To All Skills
+ (1.5 Per Character Level) 1-148 To Life (Based On Character Level)
+ (1.5 Per Character Level) 1-148 To Mana (Based On Character Level)
Damage Reduced By 10%
50% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+2 To All Attributes

OR

Rare circlet with +10-20 FCR, +2/3 Fire/Sorc Skills

To get resists out of the Shako, Um it. The Shako is really quite hard to beat, and the only thing missing from it is the FCR mod.


WEAPON

Eschuta's Temper Eldritch Orb

One-Hand Damage: 18 To 50 (34 Avg)
Required Level: 72
Durability: 30
Base Weapon Speed: [-10]
(Sorceress Only)
+1-3 To Sorceress Skill Levels (varies)
+40% Faster Cast Rate
+10-20% To Fire Skill Damage (varies)
+10-20% To Lightning Skill Damage (varies)
+20-30 To Energy (varies)

If you find one with +3, 20%, 30, you're fucking lucky, and a killing machine.

BELT

Arachnid Mesh Spiderweb Sash

Defense: 119-138 (varies)(Base Defense: 55-62)
Required Level: 80
Required Strength: 50
Durability: 12
16 Boxes
+90-120% Enhanced Defense (varies)
Slows Target By 10%
+1 To All Skills
+20% Faster Cast Rate
Increases Maximum Mana 5%
Level 3 Venom (11 Charges)

No contest.


Mara's Kaleidoscope Amulet

Required Level: 67
+2 To All Skills
All Resistances +20-30 (varies)
+5 To All Attributes

OR

Rare or Crafted Amulet with FCR, 10-20+% All Res, and +2/3 Fire/Sorc Skills

The only thing that Mara's is missing that can be found elsewhere is a FCR and a higher +skill mod. However, a Crafted or Rare amulet of that type is exceedingly difficult to find.


RINGS

Stone of Jordan Ring

Required Level: 29
+1 To All Skills
Increase Maximum Mana 25%
Adds 1-12 Lightning Damage
+20 To Mana

OR

Rare ring with FCR, Resists, etc...

As Tav pointed out, Sorcs do not generally need life. You will benefit more from increased Mana than Life. The Shako gives you more Life than a BK ring does anyways.

A Rare ring with FCR may mean more damage, since you'll get in more spells of perhaps lesser damage than a slower cast rate of higher damage spells.

But the choice is yours. You don't need to hit the 200% breakpoint, but it's a lovely thing when you do.


SHIELD

Spirit

+2 To All Skills
+25-35% Faster Cast Rate (varies)
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
+250 Defense Vs. Missile
+22 To Vitality
+89-112 To Mana (varies)
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
Poison Resist +35%
+3-8 Magic Absorb (varies)
Attacker Takes Damage of 14

You need one with +35% FCR. NEED.


ARMOUR

Chains of Honour

+2 To All Skills
+200% Damage To Demons
+100% Damage To Undead
8% Life Stolen Per Hit
+70% Enhanced Defense
+20 To Strength
Replenish Life +7
All Resistances +65
Damage Reduced By 8%
25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

OR

Ormus' Robes Dusk Shroud

Defense: 371-487 (varies)(Base Defense: 361-467)
Required Level: 75
Required Strength: 77
Durability: 20
+10-20 Defense (varies)
+20% Faster Cast Rate
+10-15% To Cold Skill Damage (varies)
+10-15% To Fire Skill Damage (varies)
+10-15% To Lightning Skill Damage (varies)
+3 bonus to a random Sorceress skill (Sorceress Only)*
Regenerate Mana 10-15% (varies)

OR

Skin of the Vipermagi Serpentskin Armor

+120% Enhanced Defense
+1 To All Skills
30% Faster Cast Rate
Magic Damage Reduced By 9-13 (varies)
All Resistances +20-35 (varies)

Ormus' Robes is better than CoH, but only if it has the correct attributes, which is completely variable and up to an insane amount of chance. CoH is much more secure, offers more defense and resists, and is not given to random skills and variables.

Skin of the Vipermagi is a nice armour for sorcs if they are poor, or can afford sacrificing skills and defense for FCR.

BOOTS

Whatever is needed to cover your weak spots (resists, Life, Mana, etc)

The only boots with FCR and resists are... well, they are only rare drops, and they are only fairy tales in all reality.


GLOVES

Magefist Light Gauntlets

Defense: 24-25 (varies)(Base Defense: 9-11)
Required Level: 23
Required Strength: 45
Durability: 18
+20-30% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+10 Defense
+1 To Fire Skills
+20% Faster Cast Rate
Regenerate Mana 25%
Adds 1-6 Fire Damage

Alternatively, a rare set of gloves with +2 Sorc/Fire skills, FCR would be best, but again, such rare items are nigh impossible to find.

At least with this pair of gloves, it's always going to grant you bonuses that you - being a Fire Sorc - can definitely use.

The only thing it's missing is resists/life/defense.


Any Vita/Serpent's Charms, FHR small charms, Shimmering charms, Fire Skillers, etc..


SWITCH

Call to Arms and a Spirit Shield

5 Socket Melee Weapons (Use a flail) *Thanks Tav

+1 To All Skills
+40% Increased Attack Speed
+250-290% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
+2-6 To Battle Command (varies)
+1-6 To Battle Orders (varies)
+1-4 To Battle Cry (varies)
Prevent Monster Heal
Replenish Life +12
30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

This makes living in Hell much, much easier, as it grants you and your merc a very large increase in Life and Mana.

Use a crap/any Spirit with the CtA, as you only want the Spirit for the +2 All Skills bonus.

MERC

Infinity/Insight
Fort/CoH
Dream/Delirium/Andy's/Vampire Gaze
Freeze Aura (Nightmare - Defensive)

You need crowd control. Slowing enemies down with a Holy Freeze aura and having a chance to cast Confuse/Mindblast is one of the best methods of doing so. Additionally, having a pulsing damage aura will cause the enemy to initially engage the merc, not you.



With this list, you could end up with quite a number of skills and bonuses to various attributes, but you haven't hit the high FHR or FCR breakpoint. However, you do have a lot of skills, and plenty of resists to survive almost without worry.

But this is only my opinion. I hope it helps.

[Tavrobel]

I have a +2, +17% Lightning. Not quite the +3, but still better than Hoto is. High runes are Um only if the person wants them. Otherwise, disregard it. A good Eschuta's goes for 5 or more.

Nom, I think he's making a Lightning Sorceress. Also, I think Mulley may have an Ormus' Robes that I gave him. The +skills is on Telekinesis, but it's still got +percent damage. Also, CtA is a 5Os Runeword, not 4Os.

Mercs don't need CoH. Their resistance is already high enough with Fortitude. Your merc, however, will benefit the most from Infinity, not Insight as is the case with most spellcasters. This is because all enemies with Lightning Immunity can have it broken in Diablo II, and those enemies with Immunity are not often, either.

Also, his belt and gloves should play the same function as his boots, unless he has Arach's, simply because this is both a popular item, but it has a low supply. However, most will go with Magefist or Teang Oul's for the FCR and resistance on Trang.

Charms should cover whatever it is that you lack, or mass Lightning skillers.

[Giga Guess]

Hmmm...seems pretty sound.

Oh, and all this is for my Fire Sorc, so that's my concern...bringing up the Lightning part just concerns the fact that Lightning is my secondary "survival" skillset.

[Flying Mullet]

Also, I think Mulley may have an Ormus' Robes that I gave him.
Yes, I have an Ormus' Robes collecting dust if GG(or anyone else) needs it.

[Giga Guess]

Iunno...I may have a look at it...but to replace my armor, I'd have to replace a lot of things, as Tal's set will lose a TON of power in doing so.

[Nominus Experse]

I agree with Tav's opinion of Mercs: use an Infinity rather than an Insight.

You can always quaff potions when your Mana gets low, whereas you can't do much about Fire Immunes other than, well, flee or for sad amounts of Lightning damage. Also, your merc is then granted crushing blow (40%).

And I also agree with using Fort rather than CoH. Fort offers damage, but most importantly, high defense and a chance to cast Chilling Armor.

I personally like the Delirium helm for mercs most, as the chance to cast Confuse and Mindblast is rather beneficial, made even more so by the +2 All Skills mod, which raises the merc's aura.

It also offers high defense bonuses.

The only thing it is missing is Life leech.

[Giga Guess]

Hmmmm...maybe I should go for an infinity. Once I break immunity, do I get full amount of Res Lowering, or does it remain at 1/5 of total amount?

[Tavrobel]

Magefists offers increased Mana regeneration, which should speed up, ever so slightly your mana regen.

What is unfortunate about -enemy resistance is that the hit only applies to the mercenary. 55% would help, but once you have 50k Lightning, that's not much of a problem.

Lifesteal shouldn't be too much a problem, especially because with a pure Lightning Sorceress, everything except Ubers will be dead by the time they get onscreen. If you've got a good Smiter helping you out, everything will be dead.

As for a character revamp, it shouldn't be too hard to find what you need, seeing as we are all one big family here, we should have, if not optimal, sufficient equipment.

Once immunity is broekn, then the remaning minus resistance works at 1/5 capacitiy. For example, if I had -150% Lightning resistance, and an enemy has 130% Lightning resistance, it would chop off 30 to bring it below 100%, then the remaning -120% would be divided by five, 24%, and subtracted from 100%, leaving your total resistance at 76%.

But once your damage exceeds 10k (which is possible even with base skills), that's 25% of 4 to ~10000, 1 to ~2500 per shot, at 2 shots per second, for 4 seconds on a typical enemy. An average comes out to 1250*2*4. An impressive amount, even for Final Fantasy standards, but as we know, Diablo characters would own Final Fantasy, even on their own system. Frenzy wins Sephiroth. It's been proven.

[Nominus Experse]

What would you say is the most insane build?

This can be in terms of finding correct items, dmg output, tanking abilities, how much of an irony or oxymoron the build is on paper, etc...

[Tavrobel]

Blessed Hammers, actually. The only thing that might surpass it in pure damage is a Frenzy Barbarian with Axes, or a Smiter because of stunlock.

With level 20 Hammers, synergies, and Concentrate, the damage is instantly boosted to 10k, minimum and maximum. If you got Offensive Aura Grand Charms, the damage would go upwards of 30k. Skill equipment could easily get it to 40k, and unlike elementals, they ignore defenses (if not deal extra) of Demons and Undead, and are fallible only to Magic-Immune animals (anything not a demon or undead).

BtV claims that Concentrater Barbarians are nigh unkillable.

Each of the elemental Sorceresses have their own style of ownage. Fire can attack extremely fast, Lightning does the most damage to the most enemies, and Cold is very easy to use.

Dragoons bring FF and DII together, and as we all know, FF fails to DII. However, in dueling, Dragoons are very effective with their Knockback from Leap.

Whirlwind received over 10 nerfs since its inception, and is still a very popular build.

Corpse Explosion used to be rigged, and it still is.

Trap Assassins are newbie, since you lay down some traps and wait for a bunch of dead enemies. Go bake a cake, look after some children, burn your hand and get rushed to the hospital, come back, and you're standing in a fire doing 5 damage a second, and you're somehow, still alive. If only this worked in real life.

Necromancers are kind of meh, but Summoners do uber-lag, which is a gift in and of itself. The gift of EXP loss.

Druids win you. End of discussion. Shapeshift. Wind. Summoning.

Strafers are like Barbarians, but are ranged, and kind of suck. But they are blonde, and we all know that blondes have more fun. Their Valkyrie cohorts usually go somewhere and do something. They also get Lightning Strike Amazons, which are like Lightning Sorceresses.

There are some non-conventional builds, such as Singing Barbarians, Golem Necromancers, Melee-sins, Charger Paladins (dueling), Vengeance Paladins (no longer viable past Nightmare), Energy Shield Sorceresses, Hydra Sorceresses, Fire Druids, Elemental Amazons, and many more!

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Im contemplating making two new characters... one a Melee-assassin and a hammerdin. What's your suggestions in building since I have, in fact never built either? Gear preference skill plans etc. Any help appreciated.

[Khaotic]

Might come back tomorrow, too lazy to install it right now(actually, too tired) and I need to login my chars so they don't get expired. I might just make a new char.

[Nominus Experse]

I knew Sorceresses could deal up to 64k damage, but was unaware of the fact that Hammerdins could get up to 40k damage per hammer...

It's no wonder such a build is extremely popular.

EDIT: I want to make a build that gives the following reaction:

"LOL, wut?"

And then surprise them by being viable in Hell difficulty. Do you believe it possible to make a build of that sort?

[Khaotic]

It's installed. Lost about 20 HR's(due to mule expiring) but other than that, everything is good.


As for whoever was trying to make a sorc, I have an item you'll want, but I'm not sure if it's free or not. It's quite valuable.

+2 sorc skills
+20%FCR
+18 Strength
+55 HP
+59 MP
all res +23

[Giga Guess]

Define "Item" please. What category? Weapon?

[Khaotic]

Sounds like an Ammy to me.

This is the best Sorc ammy you can get, it's even better than perfect mara's.

[Giga Guess]

Inquire further, please. I have a Ko, and a couple Hels if the help sway said person.

[Khaotic]

Sorry man, this ammy is rare, and has possibly some of the best stats any sorc would want.

Incase you're wondering, it's an Armageddon Fletch.


I need a transfer, anyone.

[CimminyCricket]

3 hrs then? xD

[Giga Guess]

That's what I meant, Cim...I can't expect someone to trade without offering a contribution at least.

[CimminyCricket]

:c) It's not like I have a use for them at this point.

[Giga Guess]

If you're offering, I'm happy for it, but if you'd like, I'll put you one Ko closer to a Sanctuary.

[EDIT] Tonight that is...can't access from work...:p

[Nominus Experse]

Christ that's a nice amulet...

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Indeed.

Just out of curiosity, was anyone gonna give me any pointers on those chars? :/

[Nominus Experse]

I only made one small, feeble attempt at a Hamerdin, and have never even touched the Assassin character.

So I can't help much.

I do know that many Hammerdins seem to use HOTO.

[Khaotic]

Just type in google what you're looking for and you'll find it, for example " Diablo II kick sin guide" "diablo II hammerdin guide".

[Flying Mullet]

I found the robes if anyone's interested.

[Giga Guess]

I'll pass on the Robes, thanks...

[Tavrobel]

Didn't you listen to anything we said about damage?

Anyways, Hammerdins, relatively easy to play with and to build. Unfortunately, you do need Baal runs for this build to get anywhere in the game at all.

Order of skill maxing:
Requisites
Vigor
Hammers
Concentrate
Blessed Aim
Holy Shield (as far as possible)
Defiance (optional)

Your equpment should focus around +skills for Paladin skills. The usual, really. Enigma, Shako, FCR rings, Amulet, Boots, Gloves, Belt, and all of that good stuff.

As for melee-sins, I don't have too much experience with them. However, SRL made one.

[Giga Guess]

All I know about Melee-sins, which is pretty elementary, is BEWARE IRON MAIDEN!

[SeeDRankLou]

Didn't you listen to anything we said about damage?
Well he has an armor with +2 to skills, is 11% fire damage more than the damage an additional 2 skill points will net? I don't know what it is for fire, but the answer would be no for lightning.

[Giga Guess]

Yeah, that's just it. +2 Firebolt, Meteor and Fire Mastery alone outclasses the bonus given by the armor by a long shot, let alone the flat out 2 additional levels to Fireball.

Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible. If so, please tell me.

[Tavrobel]

It is more for Lightning, oddly enough. The LCS isn't the first place to start.

[Khaotic]

Yeah, that's just it. +2 Firebolt, Meteor and Fire Mastery alone outclasses the bonus given by the armor by a long shot, let alone the flat out 2 additional levels to Fireball.

Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible. If so, please tell me.

Depends what you're wearing, is it Enigma? If so, Enigma doesn't have FCR.

[Tavrobel]

Neither does CoH.

[Khaotic]

FCR > +2 skills for fire sorc. Not to mention the +11% fire makes it less noticeable that you're missing +2skills.

Point of fireball/bolt is to shoot them fast.

[Tavrobel]

In addition, it would appear that you have told me that you actually have skills invested in the Lightning techtree as well. This is not a good thing. The +% is your friend, especially since Fire Sorcs rely most on FCR.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Thanks for the tips, Tav. You too GG. Even if it is elementary, it doesn't change how true it is. ;)

Well, I'll be working on those characters tonight if anyone might be interested in helping with a rush. (For forge of course)

[Giga Guess]

Hey Tav, next time we're on together, would you happen to have a spare Infinity, perchance?

[Flying Mullet]

I'm playing a Spear Amazon right now, so if anyone finds any nice low-level spears, please let me know.

[Giga Guess]

I may have a couple Mid grade ones...I'll look when I get home.

[Tavrobel]

Hey Tav, next time we're on together, would you happen to have a spare Infinity, perchance?

I don't use Infinity, and you should know why by now.


I'm playing a Spear Amazon right now, so if anyone finds any nice low-level spears, please let me know.

I've got a Dragon Chang unique and some other stuff.

Also, is this build going to be based on the actual Spear skills, such as Jab and Impale, or Thunder Strike, etc?

[Flying Mullet]

It's going to be strictly Spear, no Javelin skills. As for the Spear skills, I plan on mostly the thunder skills, with a few thrown into Fend for good measure.

[Tavrobel]

I'll get on in a minute.

[Nominus Experse]

Today, I was testing a variation of the Lightning Melee Sorceress I plan on building, when what do I find, a perfect fucking Maras. Oh, wow, that's nice, I found another one, but this time it's on Single Player...

Dammit. Stupid Single Player.

[Tavrobel]

Wow, your Luck rating just shot down by 50 points out of 99. Use a Potion of Greed!

BTW did you know that I've posted more than the next two combined? I'm so pathetic.

[Giga Guess]

Today, I was testing a variation of the Lightning Melee Sorceress I plan on building, when what do I find, a perfect smurfing Maras. Oh, wow, that's nice, I found another one, but this time it's on Single Player...

Dammit. Stupid Single Player.

Lucky, yet unlucky, bugger.

[Nominus Experse]

But that only lasts 20 seconds...

[Tavrobel]

Too bad.

[Giga Guess]

But that only lasts 20 seconds...

That is only because you fail.

FAIL!

[Nominus Experse]

I should actually try building my Sorceress now...

I ought to be on late tonight, if that's of any real news...

EDIT: I found some Titan's and a Gheed's if anyone wants them.

[VorpalCyberWolf]

Would someone be able to come on so I can xfer some stuff?

[Nominus Experse]

I am going to redo my Aura-based Summoning Necromancer. I believe it would be best if my Mercenary held an Infinity polearm, rather than a pride one. Instead, I plan to do something terribly risky:

Make a Pride Iron Golem.



The risks are terribly great, as pride is NOT a cheap runeword. If I or my Iron Golem perish, my Pride weapon will melt away...

According to the Necromancer Pet Calculator (http://tph.tuwien.ac.at/~gottwald/necro_pet_calculator.html), I ought to be able to summon an Iron Golem with around 9.8k base life in Hell mode at around clvl 80 (giving me enough points to max Golem Mastery, and place a point in Summon Resist). Truly, I won't see any real use of a Pride Iron Golem until this stage of the game, so I believe it ought to work relatively well.

Before, I've only used Iggy as an Insight fount, and he didn't last very long as I had chosen to initially try a Fire Golem set up instead. But I believe a much more focused approach would give me a very stable, strong Iron Golem.


Due to his low damage attacks, he shouldn't kill himself instantly when under the effects of Iron Maiden (Unlike my damn merc...). Iggy also has a natural resistance of 50 Lightning and 100 poison, which will prove most beneficial when dealing with Lightning Enchanted monsters such as Scarabs, or when facing the infamous Black Souls.

Really, my only concern after pumping points into Golem Mastery ought to be how I am going to keep myself alive. There are many left over Skill Points when building a Summoner Necromancer, so I am thinking of placing 1 point in Bone Armour and the rest in its respective synergies. At around clvl 80, I ought to be around the 500 damage absorb mark.


This may fall flat on it face and I will be one precious Pride runeword less, but there is too much of an allure in having Conviction AND Concentration at work. My Skeletons will kill faster as they hit 50% more often, and have a lovely boost in damage output from the wandering Pride Iron Golem, and my Corpse Explosion will receive the bonuses of Conviction as well (since half of its damage is Fire based).


I guess we'll see how it works.



NOTE: I've recently discovered that summoned minions will keep the stats that they are granted from whatever items they were initially summoned with. This means that if I use King Leoric's Arm and Spirit/Homo to summon minions and then switch to my Beast and Spirit/Homo set-up, the skeletons will still benefit from the +Skeleton Mastery and other bonuses found on the wand. Same can be said of any item. It seems that although I may lose the amount of skeletons, their damage, AR, and life stats remain.

I simply found this interesting, and suspect it's also true for Druid Summoners, and perhaps even the Amazon's Valkyrie and Assassins Shadow Summons benefit from similar effects.

[Tavrobel]

Those Runes were all yours. Go for it. Assuming that Polearms, runeword or not, can be converted to a Iron Golem. Be prepared to be make very fast Exits from the game.

Also, beforewarned that Iron Golems do not take every property of an item, for example, Iron Golems are not invincible when the Indestructible mod is found on an item. I do not believe that Iron Golems take Auras, either, but I could be wrong.

[Nominus Experse]

I have tested it, and they do in fact take on the properties of auras. Whether or not it will receive the other bonuses on the Pride runeword or not is up in the air, but from making an Insight Iron Golem once before, it does make a minion with an aura.

I have heard rumour of Iron Golems just simply vanishing for no apparent reason between games, which is something that puts me on edge.

Being PK'd is most likely my worst fear, however...

[Tavrobel]

Being PK'd is most likely my worst fear, however...

Then don't be an idiot and if someone hostiles you, leave.

[Nominus Experse]

Being PK'd is most likely my worst fear, however...

Then don't be an idiot and if someone hostiles you, leave.
Of course, but on one occasion that I recall quite vividly, myself and a few others were PK'd abruptly. Those who were also slain were quite confused, as there seemed to have been no Hostile message.

However, this has only occurred on one single instance. Those who PK often display certain tendencies anyways, so if I simply remember to remain observant, I ought to be fine - for the most part.


Usually it would be simply annoying to be PK'd, but now it would be tragic.

[Tavrobel]

It's called a hack or a bot program. Get used to them.

[CimminyCricket]

People suck.

[Nominus Experse]

They do suck...

My Homonculus was apparently a dupe, and so it disappeared on me today.

I swear, nothing is perm...

[Tavrobel]

LOL a duped Homo. That's quite new, actually.

Anyways, as we all know, +3 Trap skills on an Assassin claw are the best type of weapon for a character. As such, make sure everyone keeps an eye out for these. +Skills claws also work.

I've been largely absent due to me playing Median alot more recently, so if you're ever on, let me know.

[Nominus Experse]

Sacred Sets are sex

[Khaotic]

LOL a duped Homo. That's quite new, actually.

Anyways, as we all know, +3 Trap skills on an Assassin claw are the best type of weapon for a character. As such, make sure everyone keeps an eye out for these. +Skills claws also work.

I've been largely absent due to me playing Median alot more recently, so if you're ever on, let me know.

You can not have my claw, tav :(

[Nominus Experse]

I can create a new account without fear of the other one disappearing, correct?

[SeeDRankLou]

Yeah, just make sure you keep up with your accounts to make sure nothing expires.

[Flying Mullet]

I just found Eschuta's Temper. It's etheral, but if you're using this to whack enemies then you don't deserve it anyway. :p

[Khaotic]

Hmm.

[CimminyCricket]

Mullet ftw

[Tavrobel]

You can not have my claw, tav :(

This request comes from Cruise Control via AIM.


I can create a new account without fear of the other one disappearing, correct?

I should hope so, otherwise, I will have 6 accounts worth of stuff to be expired.

That's not a good thing, especially since the oldest two have been around since 2003 and 2004, respectively.

[Khaotic]

You can not have my claw, tav :(

This request comes from Cruise Control via AIM.


I can create a new account without fear of the other one disappearing, correct?

I should hope so, otherwise, I will have 6 accounts worth of stuff to be expired.

That's not a good thing, especially since the oldest two have been around since 2003 and 2004, respectively.

No one can! It's a legit one. :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

[Giga Guess]

That tops my current Escutcha's by a long shot!

[Nominus Experse]

I am requesting a rush whenever anyone is willing to do so.

[SeeDRankLou]

I am going to be at work until 11 at least, I don't know if anyone will be on before then.

[CimminyCricket]

I miss you guys... :c(

[Nominus Experse]

The Trapsin looks quite intriguing...

Fellow Diablo players, what are your thoughts on this build?

[Giga Guess]

Sounds like it's worth a shot.

[Tavrobel]

Newbish, because all you do is click a few times, and everything dies.

However, it owns like WTF. But newbish.

[Khaotic]

Newbish, because all you do is click a few times, and everything dies.

However, it owns like WTF. But newbish.

I'll show you newbish, come 1v1 with me even though I'm probably 10+ levels lower than you. :love:

[Nominus Experse]

I sometimes like being a nubcake, Tav

13k damage is too hard to ignore

[Khaotic]

I sometimes like being a nubcake, Tav

13k damage is too hard to ignore

You need good stuff to be strong though. Good stuff includes dual +skill katars with atleast +5 skill.

[Nominus Experse]

Anya and I will soon become very, very good friends, just as my Bone Necro and Drognan also are.

[Tavrobel]

I'll show you newbish, come 1v1 with me even though I'm probably 10+ levels lower than you. :love:

I don't have a Fire Sorceress nor a Charger Paladins, and ergo, I'm not stupid enough to duel an Assassin.

[Khaotic]

I'll show you newbish, come 1v1 with me even though I'm probably 10+ levels lower than you. :love:

I don't have a Fire Sorceress nor a Charger Paladins, and ergo, I'm not stupid enough to duel an Assassin.

Lawl@you pooned bro, pooned




:eep:


How's Median? I've been playing FFXI lately, but that game is getting boring again, and I'm still on my free trial, so I may just delete it and forget about it for the 20th(?) time. Is median updated at all?

[Tavrobel]

It recently received two updates, 1.50 and 1.51. It's getting nice, as I received a large number of higher level runes from Maxx Power. My Elemental Druid is capable of dealing close to 10k with all of his elemental attacks (except Poison), and can kill effectively on [/players 8].

No major spellcaster uniques, though, I did find a Sacred level throwing axe. It seems like runewords are the way to go, and I'm almost ready to choose an uberskill, but I haven't touched Median in the last week, and Maxx has largely been occupied elsewhere.

EDIT: By the way, have I been owning for the last week, or what? Epic gains in the Elections, high grades in my Spanish and History classes (Honors III and AP US)! And I just recently owned this poor, unfortunate newb, not once, but twice!


OMG!!!!! Tavvy's a Nazi!!!....no surprise's there.


You fail for not understanding the reference, and having one of them n00bish "what character am I" pictures in your signature. Also, I am more accurately defined as Communist, so you fail once again.


Tavrobel, people have the right to put whatever they f****** want in their sig, heck, I could diss you for constantly putting people down when they have an opinion, or blatently braging about how "awesome" you are, calling people n00bs just because they're not as good as you, well, people who call people n00bs, are n00bs and I know a great place where you and your followers can go, i've been there and some people there are exactly like you....trolls....
GameFAQs (http://www.gamefaqs.com)
Also, if you find KH2 so easy, why play it if you are going to just press a single button and watch the screen.

To the other people of the board, I am sorry if I went overboard, but that had to be said, and if I have commited a crime.....I deserve the punishment.





Tavrobel, people have the right to put whatever they f****** want in their sig, heck, I could diss you for constantly putting people down (B) (F)

when they have an opinion, or blatently braging about how "awesome" (A)

thsi r teh el oh el (http://www.gamefaqs.com) (C)

why play it [a game] if you are going to just press a single button and watch the screen. (D)

To the other people of the board, I am sorry if I went overboard, but that had to be said (E)

and if I have commited a crime.....I deserve the punishment.

A) I am that awesome

B) you really need to learn the difference between comedy and actual insult, and not really, since what you call a "diss" requires that you inform someone of something that they do not already know, and a "burn" requires that you make a successful attempt at humor; I have done so, and you have not, and to be able to diss someone, you must have some form of superiority, and yet, I see no proof of yours anywhere

C) GameFAQs is uncultured, while I am; ever called of someone named Carl Jung? You should read up on him, he's quite fascinating, but of course, I won't ever have to worry about you coming out of the cave (read up on Aristotle, too, he's also a good friend of mine)

D) have you ever played an RPG before? A single button? LOL!

E) of course it needed to be said; however, just because you say it, doesn't mean it will amount to anything

F) of course I'm arrogant and condescending, it's what I do

G) you still are a n00b, but I'll overlook it because you have newb tendencies

H) YTMND

I) go read General Chat, and then after that, read 1984

[Nominus Experse]

Just so everyone knows, I have two new accounts:

Nominus_Experse
Molgathos

So when you notice that these accounts have added you as a friend, realize that it is me.

[Flying Mullet]

What are +3 ammys for a single skill tree worth, if anything?

[Nominus Experse]

In my experience, they don't seem to go for much, unless there are other useful mods on it, such as strength, dex, resists, FCR, etc...

But I am bad at trading...

[CimminyCricket]

I played today! And then I almost died in a hard core game of basket ball.

[Nominus Experse]

I NEED Frostburns

Please, if anyone has them... NEED...

[CimminyCricket]

I think I have them.

[Tavrobel]

I should have plenty of pairs of those. Ask SRL for them.

[CimminyCricket]

The Frostburn thing has been covered. I like candy.

[Nominus Experse]

I just discovered that my Assassin can run from the Frigid Highlands WP to Harrogath's WP in exactly 56 seconds.

Who wants to race me? Maybe your Frenzy Barb, Tav?

VVRRROOOOOM

I am bored

[Tavrobel]

My Hammerdin and Wind Druid can get there in less than three, if I turn on my Teleport hack.

By the way, Frenzy Barbs need a kill, and it only lasts for six seconds after.

[Nominus Experse]

Teleport hack? I'm intrigued.

And yes, I realize it would be in 6 second bursts, but my god are they fast during those 6 seconds!

EDIT: Holy :skull::skull::skull::skull:, i just found out that Khalim's Will is just pure sex for starting characters.