is Sephiroth the best bad guy in the series?

[The Crystal]

Personally, I'm with Ryu on this one. The Crystal, your argument seems to revolve around 'show my facts, not interpretation' and 'use your copy of the RF to prove me wrong'. It's like your trying to win by default. Also, you've managed to contradict yourself when you disagreed with Ryu because his argument was an interpretation, but later you stated each of you could interpret words a different way.

Please Continue.

What i wanted to prove is that Sephiroth is more powerful than anyone, and i have the word of Kitase in my favor.
But then, Ryu try to distort his word with this BS of interpretation. Ryu is saying that what Kitase wanted to mean is that Sephiroth is more powerful in a controll sense and metaphorical way that related with the metaphysical of... No! If Kitase said that Sephiroth is the more stronger that means that... Sephiroth is the more stronger! The End.
What Ryu is doing is taking the creator's words out of context for personal reasons.

Sephiroth is the more stronger, because i already proved it with the official words of SE.

I'm sorry YTDN, but i don't see any reason to continue, really.

[Avarice-ness]

It's been said before, but your opinion does not make Sephy a great villain.
Also, no offense, but it doesn't look like anybody is even listening to you anymore. Ryushikaze and The Crystal are basically taking over this thread.

this was posted by some muppet!

look its everyone’s thread the fact that some people have more to say then others doesn’t matter! Im just wondering if anyone thinks their is a villian in the series that you have hated more and wanted to kill! than Sephiroth.

Yeah but atleast there's some kind of debate going on. I'm fighting for the Kefka side and right now I'm outside the courtroom eating bagles and drinking orange juice. When they start going after Kefka again I'll be posting. Till then I'm quite amused by this arguing, because they're almost agreeing on the same thing, but their different veiws on thing keeps them disagreeing.

It's like saying an apple is red, and someone saying an apple is green. Apples can be red or green it just depends on what you consider to be the idea of an apple.

[The Crystal]

Yeah but atleast there's some kind of debate going on. I'm fighting for the Kefka side and right now I'm outside the courtroom eating bagles and drinking orange juice. When they start going after Kefka again I'll be posting. Till then I'm quite amused by this arguing, because they're almost agreeing on the same thing, but their different veiws on thing keeps them disagreeing.

It's like saying an apple is red, and someone saying an apple is green. Apples can be red or green it just depends on what you consider to be the idea of an apple.

I think that the common agreement is that Kefka is more powerfull than Sephiroth, at least this is what i think now.

And about who is right and who is wrong, exist some things that don't need interpretation, and this is one of them. What Kitase said is very clear.
What is happening here, is like if someone post a quote of UOG that say that Sephiroth is controlling Jenova during the game, but then, someone say "but we can give another interpretation to the word "controlling" and etc etc, and that prove that Jenova was controlling Sephiroth!!!". By the word of the UOG, is very clear who was controlling who, and by the word of Kitase, Sephiroth's power in FFVII world is very clear too. Don't exist any "if" or "but" about what he said.
What is happening here is ridiculous. Sephiroth is the more stronger character in FFVII. If anyone don't like it, then talk with Kitase not with me.

[NeoCracker]

Yeah but atleast there's some kind of debate going on. I'm fighting for the Kefka side and right now I'm outside the courtroom eating bagles and drinking orange juice. When they start going after Kefka again I'll be posting. Till then I'm quite amused by this arguing, because they're almost agreeing on the same thing, but their different veiws on thing keeps them disagreeing.

It's like saying an apple is red, and someone saying an apple is green. Apples can be red or green it just depends on what you consider to be the idea of an apple.

I think that the common agreement is that Kefka is more powerfull than Sephiroth, at least this is what i think now.

And about who is right and who is wrong, exist some things that don't need interpretation, and this is one of them. What Kitase said is very clear.
What is happening here, is like if someone post a quote of UOG that say that Sephiroth is controlling Jenova during the game, but then, someone say "but we can give another interpretation to the word "controlling" and etc etc, and that prove that Jenova was controlling Sephiroth!!!". By the word of the UOG, is very clear who was controlling who, and by the word of Kitase, Sephiroth's power in FFVII world is very clear too. Don't exist any "if" or "but" about what he said.
What is happening here is ridiculous. Sephiroth is the more stronger character in FFVII. If anyone don't like it, then talk with Kitase not with me.

But to only talk to those who would agree with you get boring. Working against some one on frivilous debates is by far more enjoyable.

[Goldenboko]

It's been said before, but your opinion does not make Sephy a great villain.
Also, no offense, but it doesn't look like anybody is even listening to you anymore. Ryushikaze and The Crystal are basically taking over this thread.

this was posted by some muppet!

look its everyone’s thread the fact that some people have more to say then others doesn’t matter! Im just wondering if anyone thinks their is a villian in the series that you have hated more and wanted to kill! than Sephiroth.

PuPu a muppet oh he's gonna get a kick out of that.

Sorry to break it to you, but your post sounds nothing like what you described.....

I don’t know about Kefka but with Kuja I never really hated him or the bad guy in X or 8 but with 7 I really wanted to kill Sephiroth more then completing the game, that’s what made him a great villain for me.

You asked absolutely no question there.

[YTDN]

I have come to a reasonable conclusion now. Sephiroth is more powerful than Cloud, and can control the lifestream and stuff, and destroy the world, but his dreams of destroying Cloud and the world will fail, because he suffers from Villain's luck.

Going by that logic, if Kefka and Sephy came up against each other, they would both lose, since a group of heroes would come and destroy them with their Heroes luck.

[PuPu]

It's been said before, but your opinion does not make Sephy a great villain.
Also, no offense, but it doesn't look like anybody is even listening to you anymore. Ryushikaze and The Crystal are basically taking over this thread.

this was posted by some muppet!

look its everyone’s thread the fact that some people have more to say then others doesn’t matter! Im just wondering if anyone thinks their is a villian in the series that you have hated more and wanted to kill! than Sephiroth.

The thing is, the only thing you've really done was just continue to spam "Sephy is the best and I hardly have any proof for my claims" for the past few pages. You probably wouldn't like it if I posted "kefka is awesome" over and over again either. Also, people that are actually trying to debate here are posting proofs and reasons for why they think that way and not just their opinions. If you really were 'just wondering' what we all thought, you wouldn't be spamming "Sephy is the best" over and over again. I don't really care that you think Sephy is the best, but just try and give detailed explainations and proofs of why. Expressing your opinion is fine, but everyone else here gives reasons and proofs why they think that way in their posts, something you apparently can't do.

muppet!

I'd probably be more insulted if you didn't just agree with yourself a few pages ago.

On Topic:
Kefka does have more power than Sephiroth, but I doubt Kefka could survive ten slahes in one second by Sephy (KHII). Kefka is stronger is terms of magic, but Sephy is faster and physically stronger.

[chrisfffan]

i didnt agree with my post it was someboady eles s that i posted i agreed with but i forgot to put their name down alright?

[Jimma]

Sepiroth spoke weirdly like a mama's boy but unlike any other villian i have encountered (only played 7 8 9 10 and 10-2) he has a mysterious presence backed with the music which in my oponion made people act different around him. He an okay villian but i dont like it how he goes MOTHER all the time.

[Goldenboko]

It's been said before, but your opinion does not make Sephy a great villain.
Also, no offense, but it doesn't look like anybody is even listening to you anymore. Ryushikaze and The Crystal are basically taking over this thread.

this was posted by some muppet!

look its everyone’s thread the fact that some people have more to say then others doesn’t matter! Im just wondering if anyone thinks their is a villian in the series that you have hated more and wanted to kill! than Sephiroth.

The thing is, the only thing you've really done was just continue to spam "Sephy is the best and I hardly have any proof for my claims" for the past few pages. You probably wouldn't like it if I posted "kefka is awesome" over and over again either. Also, people that are actually trying to debate here are posting proofs and reasons for why they think that way and not just their opinions. If you really were 'just wondering' what we all thought, you wouldn't be spamming "Sephy is the best" over and over again. I don't really care that you think Sephy is the best, but just try and give detailed explainations and proofs of why. Expressing your opinion is fine, but everyone else here gives reasons and proofs why they think that way in their posts, something you apparently can't do.

muppet!

I'd probably be more insulted if you didn't just agree with yourself a few pages ago.

On Topic:
Kefka does have more power than Sephiroth, but I doubt Kefka could survive ten slahes in one second by Sephy (KHII). Kefka is stronger is terms of magic, but Sephy is faster and physically stronger.

i didnt agree with my post it was someboady eles s that i posted i agreed with but i forgot to put their name down alright?

K kiddes calm down and get back on topic or this thread is gonna get closed faster then you can say mod/admin.

[Darth Anarcus]

Sephiroth is overrated. I mean, he's still cool and all, but I like Ultimecia and Garland from FF1 better.

[Avarice-ness]

Yeah but atleast there's some kind of debate going on. I'm fighting for the Kefka side and right now I'm outside the courtroom eating bagles and drinking orange juice. When they start going after Kefka again I'll be posting. Till then I'm quite amused by this arguing, because they're almost agreeing on the same thing, but their different veiws on thing keeps them disagreeing.

It's like saying an apple is red, and someone saying an apple is green. Apples can be red or green it just depends on what you consider to be the idea of an apple.

I think that the common agreement is that Kefka is more powerfull than Sephiroth, at least this is what i think now.

And about who is right and who is wrong, exist some things that don't need interpretation, and this is one of them. What Kitase said is very clear.
What is happening here, is like if someone post a quote of UOG that say that Sephiroth is controlling Jenova during the game, but then, someone say "but we can give another interpretation to the word "controlling" and etc etc, and that prove that Jenova was controlling Sephiroth!!!". By the word of the UOG, is very clear who was controlling who, and by the word of Kitase, Sephiroth's power in FFVII world is very clear too. Don't exist any "if" or "but" about what he said.
What is happening here is ridiculous. Sephiroth is the more stronger character in FFVII. If anyone don't like it, then talk with Kitase not with me.

But to only talk to those who would agree with you get boring. Working against some one on frivilous debates is by far more enjoyable.

Crackers right, I don't really have much to say anymore 'cause the points apparently been made.

Although I'm still trolling around. This is prolly the only thread I'm amused by reading everyday.

[Forsaken Lover]

Well, glad we can all agree after this very lenghty and intriguing topic that Sephiroth is far from the best. miles behind Kuja and Kefka in all categories.

[The Crystal]

Well, glad we can all agree after this very lenghty and intriguing topic that Sephiroth is far from the best, and is behind Kuja and Kefka in some categories.

Fixed for you.

[Ryushikaze]

Well, glad we can all agree after this very lenghty and intriguing topic that Sephiroth is far from the best, and is behind Kuja and Kefka in some categories.

Fixed for you.

So, we're 4Chan now, eh? Better go prepare for the invasion of the /b/tards.

Evidence would be appreciated. Non-vague, non-made up evidence, this time, please. Kitase saying Sephiroth is the strongest character in FF7 (in some undefined category) does not grant him superpowers we've never seen him use. Substantiate your arguments, please. Non sequitors will not be tolerated.

Oh yes- Concession accepted on what you did not address. If you wish to resume arguing these claims, please begin from square one.