FFVII Remake Gameplay Trailer

Originally Posted by Ayen

...I remember reading that one of the reasons Red wasn't seen much in the movie was because the animators were too lazy to design his fur coat.

That's part of the reason Tifa's had a haircut in Advent Children. Her waist-length hair from her original design would have been quite a mission to animate, so they gave her a more manageable do instead.

Aerith's hair is similarly long, but since it's almost always in a big braid it'll pose much fewer animation challenges.

Originally Posted by Ayen

I wonder what Aerith and Tifa will look like? The shades notwithstanding, Cloud and Barret's designs seem to retain the essence of the polygons in the original game as does the minor characters we've seen so far. Wouldn't surprise me if they follow suit. I also wonder if they got over their Red XIII fur fear. Since I remember reading that one of the reasons Red wasn't seen much in the movie was because the animators were too lazy to design his fur coat.

I doubt Aerith will have much of a design change, I can see her sporting a new weapon/fighting style to compensate for the more action style gameplay. I imagine Tifa's outfit will have a more modest design for her outfit. After the blowback from Cidney for XV, I'm sure SE is going to think twice before putting her in her original. I imagine it will mix elements of the original with her AC outfit.

I've seen people manage to do fast pace action with staffs/polearms before so you never know.

Originally Posted by Ayen

I've seen people manage to do fast pace action with staffs/polearms before so you never know.

More has to do with her not exactly being much of a fighter. I can see them making her a long range fighter of some type, or seriously building her around being magic orientated like Aqua from BbS.

Ohh... Right, right, I had forgotten about that. Shouldn't have. All those barrels I had to drop for her to climb some bloody stairs.

I just make her do the fights. Not like she doesn't need the XP.

Can we talk about Cloud's skinny arms for a bit? A lot of people don't like them. I think they're brilliant!

OK, so, Cloud Strife. Who is he? Former SOLDIER, First Class? Nah mate. He's not even Third Class. He's nobody. A Nibelheim kid who flunked his SOLDIER aspirations and got a crummy grunt's uniform. A guy who gets sick in the back of the truck on the way to a mission, who spent 4 years of his life floating unconscious in a tank. That's the real Cloud Strife. So it seems perfectly sensible that he looks gaunt and skinny. He should look kinda out of place in that SOLDIER uniform, because it was never his to wear in the first place.

The only reason he can even lift that Buster Sword and jump onto trains and stuff is because he got pumped full of JENOVA cells and spent four years stewing in Mako. That's where his strength is coming from, not his piddly little arms. Given that he's borrowing his personality and history just like he's borrowing his strength... his skinny arms are more or less all that's left of the real him at this point.

Maybe they didn't put this much thought into this when they designed this version of him, but I hope they did. Because I reckon it's a great piece of visual storytelling. I love it.

Completely agree. He wasn't exactly bulging with muscles in the original FF7 FMVs either.

The timeline as I remember it might be a bit off, and I don't know exactly how much time has passed since he got to Midgar until he joined the mission, but it's not that long ago that he escaped from the basement of the shinra mansion. It takes time to build big muscles, and he's basically fresh out of a test tube.

To get to barret's size either takes over 5 years of hard training, or two years of steroids+hard training.

I honestly didn't even notice he was that skinny. I think people secretly just miss the characters' arms looking like they had cancer.

Originally Posted by Mirage

The timeline as I remember it might be a bit off, and I don't know exactly how much time has passed since he got to Midgar until he joined the mission, but it's not that long ago that he escaped from the basement of the shinra mansion. It takes time to build big muscles, and he's basically fresh out of a test tube.

"How long has it been?"
"It's been... five years."

The Niblheim incident was 5 years ago. He was unconscious for 4. So... yeah. It's only been about a year since Crisis Core.

I was really just going by the character ages. He was 16 in the flashback, and he's 21 when he helps blow up the reactor. He spent 4 years in the tank, and i'm gonna assume that the truck they rode from Nibelheim to Midgar didn't travel at light speed.

Originally Posted by Fox

Originally Posted by Mirage

The timeline as I remember it might be a bit off, and I don't know exactly how much time has passed since he got to Midgar until he joined the mission, but it's not that long ago that he escaped from the basement of the shinra mansion. It takes time to build big muscles, and he's basically fresh out of a test tube.

"How long has it been?"
"It's been... five years."

The Niblheim incident was 5 years ago. He was unconscious for 4. So... yeah. It's only been about a year since Crisis Core.

Not even. The journey from Nibelheim to Midgar needed a great amount of time. Interestingly enough way more than the entire FFVII-1 journey which is 1 month.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Not even. The journey from Nibelheim to Midgar needed a great amount of time. Interestingly enough way more than the entire FFVII-1 journey which is 1 month.

Not the way I play FFVII! Chocobo breeding a lone probably should have ended up with Meteor killing us all, now that I think of it.

You have to admire the amount of debate a small amount of game-play footage can create, really.

OH I reblogged a set of pictures about that on our tumblr the other day.... let me find it.....


HERE WE GO! Everyone go look at this. I believe making him look like a skeleton is intentional.

(also while you're at it follow the eoff tumblr)

Originally Posted by Fox

Can we talk about Cloud's skinny arms for a bit? A lot of people don't like them. I think they're brilliant!

OK, so, Cloud Strife. Who is he? Former SOLDIER, First Class? Nah mate. He's not even Third Class. He's nobody. A Nibelheim kid who flunked his SOLDIER aspirations and got a crummy grunt's uniform. A guy who gets sick in the back of the truck on the way to a mission, who spent 4 years of his life floating unconscious in a tank. That's the real Cloud Strife. So it seems perfectly sensible that he looks gaunt and skinny. He should look kinda out of place in that SOLDIER uniform, because it was never his to wear in the first place.

The only reason he can even lift that Buster Sword and jump onto trains and stuff is because he got pumped full of JENOVA cells and spent four years stewing in Mako. That's where his strength is coming from, not his piddly little arms. Given that he's borrowing his personality and history just like he's borrowing his strength... his skinny arms are more or less all that's left of the real him at this point.

Maybe they didn't put this much thought into this when they designed this version of him, but I hope they did. Because I reckon it's a great piece of visual storytelling. I love it.

Nope. He was strong enough to hurl Sephiroth off the bridge in the reactor at Nibelheim.

Not that I care about the thickness of his arms one way or the other. But Cloud wasn't physically that weak.

Originally Posted by Skyblade

Nope. He was strong enough to hurl Sephiroth off the bridge in the reactor at Nibelheim.

Not that I care about the thickness of his arms one way or the other. But Cloud wasn't physically that weak.

I always took that not as a display of strength but of adrenaline and determination. You know, one of those extraordinary things that can happen in extraordinary situations. On a normal day Cloud wouldn't be throwing anybody off any bridges.

Besides, in FFVII the strength to lift a man is pretty minor strength. Remember what Sephiroth could do to the Midgar Zolom.

He also lifted sephiroth before he had been stuck in a tube for 4 years, not after.

Originally Posted by Fox

Originally Posted by Skyblade

Nope. He was strong enough to hurl Sephiroth off the bridge in the reactor at Nibelheim.

Not that I care about the thickness of his arms one way or the other. But Cloud wasn't physically that weak.

I always took that not as a display of strength but of adrenaline and determination. You know, one of those extraordinary things that can happen in extraordinary situations. On a normal day Cloud wouldn't be throwing anybody off any bridges.

Besides, in FFVII the strength to lift a man is pretty minor strength. Remember what Sephiroth could do to the Midgar Zolom.

Because that is exactly what it is supposed to be, the loser turns hero story. Cloud, a weakling, not even good enough to get the job he wanted and full of complexes, not even close to be comparable to the greatest being alive proves that the inner strength manifested through the beloved ones overcomes even the greatest obstacles. The theme of "what he cherishes most" is not just a part of Advent Children.

Pfft, Square. Trying to tell a story in a visual medium through visuals. What's the matter with you? Next you're going to give us scenery to let our surroundings sink in or something.