Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past Trailer

I've been having fun. It seems the pacing has improved a bit, though I know the game will become more grindy (SPOILER)when classes are introduced. I sort of overdid it when I played the original, so I might ease off it and only stop and grind if I find myself having trouble. The temptation to (SPOILER)unlock those awesome classes by mastering others is just too much for me!

I put about 10 hours in so far. Forgot how fun it is to unravel the various mystery scenarios the game throws at you. The general atmosphere of the game is really cool, too.

Not to far into it yet, but dear god the characters are annoying in this one. O_O

Ugh I need to borrow a 3DS for like a few months.

Holy trout am I the only person who gets the feeling your parents in this game don't like you very much? I mean, they clearly love you, but they don't like you. Get what I mean?

To be entirely honest no one in this game is all that likable.

Idk, I kinda like the main kids so far because they actually behave like real-life immature teens for once. And honestly, considering how much everyone is complaining about them and constantly berating them, I really sympathize with them. So props to Yuji Horii for actually faithfully replicating the teen experience!

Yeah, I have no problem with the kids. Dragon Quest games have never been about the characters for me, anyway. It's more about the larger world. The only exception to this was Dragon Quest VIII because they actually focused on the characters for a change, and even then the characterization isn't as deep as other RPGs.

...Well that got seriously smurfed up real quick. O_O (Ellie, though I wont' say more so it won't spoil for anyone not this far.)

Yeah, VII might be the darkest entry surprisingly enough.

No spoilers please!! I'm still not to the Alltrades Abbey yet

Pretty sure that's not Alltrades Abbey territory yet either, since I haven't reached AA, but I think I just reached the island they mention.

But yeah, no spoilers

Alltrade Abbey/Dharma Temple is not really big on story spoilers as much as it's the point the game takes the kiddy gloves off and decides to pull you through the wringer just before it hands you the keys to the city (job classes). It's the first serious difficulty jump in the game, but certainly not the last one.

(SPOILER)So what exactly was so dark about the ELLIE segment? I really don't get it and I beat both the past and present. Nothing stuck out as particularly dark.

Originally Posted by Fynn

(SPOILER)So what exactly was so dark about the ELLIE segment? I really don't get it and I beat both the past and present. Nothing stuck out as particularly dark.

Its how out of nowhere the bit came in compared to anything else in the game thus far.

(SPOILER)The man had given up on humanity too the point he got all his emotional stimulation from a robot. Firstly that scene where she is feeding dead man soup shows he never was able to reconnect with people. And after he dies you get that whole present day segment, and it implies heavily that the Robot has some degree of emotion. Yet due to it's programming, it is still unable to realize the guy is dead.

That's some depressing trout right there. (Also currently past Alltrades abby)

Idk. It didn't really feel depressing to me at all and some of the stuff was downright dumb. (SPOILER)I'm also pretty sure the robot just kept doing what it was programmed to do, as a robot would do. Did not get the impression it had a soul or emotions of its own whatsoever. Which makes the reaction of the people around all the more baffling. I mean, of course it would keep doing that thing over all these centuries - it's a machine and that;s literally the only thing it was programmed to do at that point. Sure, it's sad the guy died alone, but other than that the plot in the present was pretty meh. But that's just me

Frobisher SpoilerIt wasn't my favorite story so far, but yeah I did like the resolution of the Frobisher/Faraday story. It's subtle that Autonymus did not want to be bothered by humans again (unless I missed some more explicit dialogue). After "they" save the day, the king asks what he would like as reward and Autonymus says he doesn't want anything and then storms off. When you visit in the present you just see Ellie still trying to care for his pile of bones. While Fynn is right and the robot is programmed to act that way and probably doesn't have emotion, I guess I liked it from another perspective. I too got the impression that Autonymus wanted to be alone and that the robot was just executing commands. But he obviously had been completely alone with the robot, considering his skeleton was still there yet unnoticed.

But then you learn that the guy (I think his name is Ambrose?) happened upon his "academy" and saw the way the robot was still taking care of him and tried to prevent everyone from interfering with that. I thought that part was sweet and somewhat somber.

But yeah, no big WOW SO SAD moment, but I did like the resolution.

Originally Posted by Fynn

Idk. It didn't really feel depressing to me at all and some of the stuff was downright dumb. (SPOILER)I'm also pretty sure the robot just kept doing what it was programmed to do, as a robot would do. Did not get the impression it had a soul or emotions of its own whatsoever. Which makes the reaction of the people around all the more baffling. I mean, of course it would keep doing that thing over all these centuries - it's a machine and that;s literally the only thing it was programmed to do at that point. Sure, it's sad the guy died alone, but other than that the plot in the present was pretty meh. But that's just me

(SPOILER)Go back and talk to Ellie afterwords the story is finished, and there is an additional bit of dialogue that wasn't their the first time

Originally Posted by NeoCracker

Originally Posted by Fynn

Idk. It didn't really feel depressing to me at all and some of the stuff was downright dumb. (SPOILER)I'm also pretty sure the robot just kept doing what it was programmed to do, as a robot would do. Did not get the impression it had a soul or emotions of its own whatsoever. Which makes the reaction of the people around all the more baffling. I mean, of course it would keep doing that thing over all these centuries - it's a machine and that;s literally the only thing it was programmed to do at that point. Sure, it's sad the guy died alone, but other than that the plot in the present was pretty meh. But that's just me

(SPOILER)Go back and talk to Ellie afterwords the story is finished, and there is an additional bit of dialogue that wasn't their the first time

(SPOILER)I know. It doesn't convince me.

Originally Posted by Fynn

Originally Posted by NeoCracker

Originally Posted by Fynn

Idk. It didn't really feel depressing to me at all and some of the stuff was downright dumb. (SPOILER)I'm also pretty sure the robot just kept doing what it was programmed to do, as a robot would do. Did not get the impression it had a soul or emotions of its own whatsoever. Which makes the reaction of the people around all the more baffling. I mean, of course it would keep doing that thing over all these centuries - it's a machine and that;s literally the only thing it was programmed to do at that point. Sure, it's sad the guy died alone, but other than that the plot in the present was pretty meh. But that's just me

(SPOILER)Go back and talk to Ellie afterwords the story is finished, and there is an additional bit of dialogue that wasn't their the first time

(SPOILER)I know. It doesn't convince me.

(SPOILER)SO you are saying you believe that the robot was programed to thank you for returning it to it's master? That is.... a very, very bizarre thing to program

I didn't catch that part! I will go back and see!